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Post by DirtyLikaRat® on Mar 19, 2017 21:01:07 GMT -5
Ya know... Since I got the Funniest Mofo award... I have been given a ban warning and some 50% ban meter on my profile... Warned for using the forum as a personal message board..... Hassled at every turn for inappropriate this.... Offensive that... Dude I used to really enjoy this forum... Yea, I'm borderline offensive... Yea, I push the limit... But lately here I feel like I got a target on my back. I've toned down my jokes... Actually been a real boring S.O.B..... Tried to follow all the rules.. But this is getting tiring. I love all you cats... But it's bout to the point of finding somewhere else to kick it. Love, Peace and Chicken Grease...
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Mar 19, 2017 22:01:07 GMT -5
It is better to be unknown to the Gods than to be loved by them.
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Post by boomsplat on Mar 19, 2017 22:12:07 GMT -5
Ya know... Since I got the Funniest Mofo award... I have been given a ban warning and some 50% ban meter on my profile... Warned for using the forum as a personal message board..... Hassled at every turn for inappropriate this.... Offensive that... Dude I used to really enjoy this forum... Yea, I'm borderline offensive... Yea, I push the limit... But lately here I feel like I got a target on my back. I've toned down my jokes... Actually been a real boring S.O.B..... Tried to follow all the rules.. But this is getting tiring. I love all you cats... But it's bout to the point of finding somewhere else to kick it. Love, Peace and Chicken Grease... Yeah, it's gotten too PC with the onslaught of all the new members. I've gotten my deserved warnings for being uncivil to morons so I'm not really caring what happens with my forum account. Not like playing nice with fools is fun anyhow,,,,and the game is losing all of its luster for me anyhow. I'm not going to change...I am who I am and if I get banned, so what? Not like you can't read stuff...you just lose the ability to post snarky comments back to mofos who post inane stuff. If you are going to go out, go out with a bang! It's better to flame out than just fade away.
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Post by mechtout on Mar 19, 2017 22:21:36 GMT -5
helps to put a smiling face after your statement, then you can almost get away with saying anything.
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 19, 2017 22:39:57 GMT -5
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Post by Шɑɡɡɪή on Mar 19, 2017 22:52:31 GMT -5
helps to put a smiling face after your statement, then you can almost get away with saying anything. . Ummm, turtles ...... .
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Post by NokiaSåmsung on Mar 19, 2017 22:56:37 GMT -5
Huh? Im assuming my ban meter is 0, and if every1 ban meter is 50%, what am I doing wrong?
OK, bad timing and likely poor taste of joke here...my bad, just couldn't resist.
Sorry.
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Post by zeus on Mar 20, 2017 6:13:18 GMT -5
I don't want to point this out, but this belongs in off topic. ? <- following mechtout 's advice.
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Post by dms12008 on Mar 20, 2017 6:20:05 GMT -5
Yeah that's annoying seeing that my post is tagged and I go to check it out and it's some guy saying to 'knock off the personal attacks' and it's like 「whiskey tango foxtrot」 how do u possibly not understand it's a joke. I think the new generation of annoying internet forum members r in the form of PC cops as opposed to cussing spammers. Just a change of times. I guess it's not all that worse
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Post by wildboar on Mar 20, 2017 6:46:02 GMT -5
Where's the ban meter ? I want one - it's not fair!!
DLaR I like your turn of phrase ... not been offended by anything ... if that helps? (which I am sure it doesn't) Forums need characters or they become quite dull... even ones you don't agree with
Does the ban meter deplete ? Have a cool down like Griffs jump?
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Post by fijiwater on Mar 20, 2017 6:46:58 GMT -5
I got a warning for having an american flag pepe as my avatar LOL. Keep in mind this is the type of forum you're not allowed to cuss on..
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Post by wildboar on Mar 20, 2017 6:51:05 GMT -5
I got a warning for having an american flag pepe as my avatar LOL. Keep in mind this is the type of forum you're not allowed to cuss on.. what constitutes a cuss? I have seen Fire-truck and Poo-Poo as profanity swap outs ... they are obvious but is there a glossary of swearing that is not allowed? what if I said minge?
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Post by critter667 on Mar 20, 2017 7:46:46 GMT -5
Language censors are software programs.at most the mods made a list not the actual replacement is done by a program. This tends to end up with some oddities.
For example, when talking about flame thrower, fire proof is fine. However fire-retardant may get censored despite being a perfectly legitimate word for the discussion. Cockpit runs into this issue as well. We pilot out machines from the cockpit but well... Software doesn't get context. So you can't blame mods for a software's in ability to understand context.
As for P.C. look, PIX links to this forum now. The PIX devs are providing some info and support to the forum by communicating and helping with media packs. That means the forum must be treated professionally. That is what happens when you become more official. And look, yes everyone loves freedom of expression. However,a certain level of professionalism must be maintained. So... Ask yourself,would your language and behavior be acceptable in a business setting? And by that I mean not between two coworkers who fry each other but rather between a business and a customer. So.. Act accordingly. If you don't like it, go start your own unofficial forum.
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Post by johnnygrizz on Mar 20, 2017 8:17:30 GMT -5
I got a warning for having an american flag pepe as my avatar LOL. Keep in mind this is the type of forum you're not allowed to cuss on.. Really??
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Post by Deadalready on Mar 20, 2017 8:24:45 GMT -5
Sorry to see you go...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 8:28:03 GMT -5
I got a warning for having an american flag pepe as my avatar LOL. Keep in mind this is the type of forum you're not allowed to cuss on.. what constitutes a cuss? I have seen Fire-truck and Poo-Poo as profanity swap outs ... they are obvious but is there a glossary of swearing that is not allowed? what if I said minge? Haha, how about a link to Blood Hound Gang: Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo Yes, this is a legitimate name of a song.
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Post by DirtyLikaRat® on Mar 20, 2017 8:37:10 GMT -5
I got a warning for having an american flag pepe as my avatar LOL. Keep in mind this is the type of forum you're not allowed to cuss on.. are you serious? You got flack for having an American avatar... Please tell me your joking... Cuz I swear to God that's it... I'm out dude my I fought for this country and... I'm pissed dude
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Post by mechtout on Mar 20, 2017 8:51:45 GMT -5
I got a warning for having an american flag pepe as my avatar LOL. Keep in mind this is the type of forum you're not allowed to cuss on.. are you serious? You got flack for having an American avatar... Please tell me your joking... Cuz I swear to God that's it... I'm out dude my I fought for this country and... I'm pissed dude probably not this forum he is talking about since johnnygrizz above has an american flag in his avatar
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 9:05:00 GMT -5
I got a warning for having an american flag pepe as my avatar LOL. Keep in mind this is the type of forum you're not allowed to cuss on.. are you serious? You got flack for having an American avatar... Please tell me your joking... Cuz I swear to God that's it... I'm out dude my I fought for this country and... I'm pissed dude I would guess an American flag or military symbology are ok. Pepe the frog is a 4chan, alt-right, pseudo white nationalist meme.
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Post by SlowReflexes on Mar 20, 2017 9:09:04 GMT -5
I got a warning for having an american flag pepe as my avatar LOL. Keep in mind this is the type of forum you're not allowed to cuss on.. are you serious? You got flack for having an American avatar... Please tell me your joking... Cuz I swear to God that's it... I'm out dude my I fought for this country and... I'm pissed dude It's not the flag it's the mystical amphibian. They seem to be serious about keeping partisan politics out of here, and do a pretty decent job of it. For which I am enormously grateful.
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Post by critter667 on Mar 20, 2017 9:12:29 GMT -5
Look this is an international forum. Yes if only the American flag is banned that is bias. However, if to prevent trolls from complaining and wasting mods time because they view certain flags as bad, the mods banned all flags so be it.
Who knows, this forum is hosted free of charge. However there could be terms of service that the mods must abide by as well. Perhaps the company that hosts the forums and covers the server bandwidth costs have theirs own requirements based on advertising agreements. It could be any host of factors that limit what is displayed as avatars and censored.
Given that PIX isn't hosting their own forum server, maybe we should all just be glad that our moderators and admins enjoy this game and community enough that they devoted their free time to making the forum work which isn't easy. So instead of complaining, maybe we should say thanks or at least ask why a decision was made before breaking out pitchforks.
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Post by FRΞΞDØM☆F1GHTΞR on Mar 20, 2017 9:22:41 GMT -5
I got a warning for having an american flag pepe as my avatar LOL. Keep in mind this is the type of forum you're not allowed to cuss on.. are you serious? You got flack for having an American avatar... Please tell me your joking... Cuz I swear to God that's it... I'm out dude my I fought for this country and... I'm pissed dude I haven't had any problem having a U.S. flag in my avatar. My guess is that the problem was with Pepe the Frog. While it's not Pepe's fault, and not the intention of his creator, Pepe has been adopted as a mascot by alt-right extremists (neo-nazis, KKK, etc.) While everyone is entitled to their own political opinions, promoting prejudice and hatred is, understandably, a forum "no-no". DLR, you fought for the freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution: THANK YOU. However, these freedoms are only guaranteed within our borders, and this is a global forum. We need a certain amount of political correctness to keep this forum civil. Symbols of hate have no place here. That includes everything from the benign (Pepe the frog) to the blatant (swastikas).
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Post by fijiwater on Mar 20, 2017 9:24:07 GMT -5
Look this is an international forum. Yes if only the American flag is banned that is bias. However, if to prevent trolls from complaining and wasting mods time because they view certain flags as bad, the mods banned all flags so be it. Who knows, this forum is hosted free of charge. However there could be terms of service that the mods must abide by as well. Perhaps the company that hosts the forums and covers the server bandwidth costs have theirs own requirements based on advertising agreements. It could be any host of factors that limit what is displayed as avatars and censored. Given that PIX isn't hosting their own forum server, maybe we should all just be glad that our moderators and admins enjoy this game and community enough that they devoted their free time to making the forum work which isn't easy. So instead of complaining, maybe we should say thanks or at least ask why a decision was made before breaking out pitchforks. that's bull「dookie」, I've seen a political avatar on here, just seems like it was ignored cuz the guy was chinese or something (clearly not american) it's a 「fluffernutter」ing animated frog colored in with the american flag.
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Post by Dredd77 on Mar 20, 2017 9:30:19 GMT -5
Okay folks, let's have a conversation. I don't ever mind sitting down and discussing how the forum is moderated, and I definitely want to clarify a few things in here before it starts getting out of hand.
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Post by Dredd77 on Mar 20, 2017 9:35:24 GMT -5
National flags: Not a damn thing wrong with 'em. Almost everyone on God's green earth has a nationality they're a part of, and cause to be proud of that. Wave 'em high and proud if that's what you'd like to do. There's nothing inherently political in a flag itself.
Pepe: Sorry, that's political. I know it didn't exactly start out that way, but whether you agree or not that's where it ended up. There are a thousand forums where you can argue politics to your heart's content. This just doesn't happen to be one of them. Even a simple avatar sends a message. Someone above mentioned the swastika, which is a good example of how a simple avatar image would send a message and divide the community. Personally, I'd love to be able to discuss politics in the Rants forum, which I'd like to see relaxed in terms of rules enforcement. But it's not up to me, I'm just one voice amongst several.
And perhaps I'm oversharing here, but for the avoidance of doubt, I'm not hammering Pepe because I'm some "triggered" liberal. I'm on the right, politically, but I know a land mine when I see one. This is a game forum, end of.
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Post by Dredd77 on Mar 20, 2017 9:38:02 GMT -5
Given that PIX isn't hosting their own forum server, maybe we should all just be glad that our moderators and admins enjoy this game and community enough that they devoted their free time to making the forum work which isn't easy. So instead of complaining, maybe we should say thanks or at least ask why a decision was made before breaking out pitchforks. I am happy to discuss any decision at any time. I'm a big believer in transparency.
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Post by Dredd77 on Mar 20, 2017 9:43:24 GMT -5
I got a warning for having an american flag pepe as my avatar LOL. Keep in mind this is the type of forum you're not allowed to cuss on.. are you serious? You got flack for having an American avatar... Please tell me your joking... Cuz I swear to God that's it... I'm out dude my I fought for this country and... I'm pissed dude I'll reiterate, if anyone at any time has a concern about how we're modering this place, I would really appreciate a conversation rather than just taking someone else at face value. Open or PM, I'm fine with either. Hell, I even opened up my Ask Dredd for anonymous questions. I got more anonymous questions about my sexual preferences than I did moderation. I'll be honest... > Constantly available > Open to discuss any issue frankly and candidly > Provided vehicle for anonymous questioning so folks can feel comfortable I don't know what else I can really do, bro.
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Post by Dredd77 on Mar 20, 2017 9:45:55 GMT -5
I got a warning for having an american flag pepe as my avatar LOL. Keep in mind this is the type of forum you're not allowed to cuss on.. what constitutes a cuss? I have seen Fire-truck and Poo-Poo as profanity swap outs ... they are obvious but is there a glossary of swearing that is not allowed? what if I said minge? To be clear, it's only excessive profanity that we are worried about. I'm not a big believer in that rule, but that's the rule. What constitutes excessive? As with many things, it's a judgment call. But don't be ?firetruck?ing scared to drop the occasional one, that's not what we're concerned with.
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Post by Dredd77 on Mar 20, 2017 9:58:15 GMT -5
As for P.C. look, PIX links to this forum now. The PIX devs are providing some info and support to the forum by communicating and helping with media packs. That means the forum must be treated professionally. That is what happens when you become more official. And look, yes everyone loves freedom of expression. However,a certain level of professionalism must be maintained. So... Ask yourself,would your language and behavior be acceptable in a business setting? And by that I mean not between two coworkers who fry each other but rather between a business and a customer. So.. Act accordingly. If you don't like it, go start your own unofficial forum. So I appreciate the sentiment here, but just to clarify, when we became linked in-game by Pixo it was news to us too. There has been no change to the board's oversight based on anything with Pixo. Indeed, the board took its town and direction from the Wiki board, which was seen as a font of knowledge and shared experience. The guys behind this place always placed a high value on that, and sculpted the forum accordingly. I suppose you could say it was meant to be more of a coffee shop annex in a library, rather than a dive bar on the docks. Not that there's anything wrong with dive bars on the docks. But that's the environment more like what you see in the Facebook groups, and not really an atmosphere that's desireable here. But it would be disingenuous to pretend that the linking of the Forum in the game had no effect, either. We'd already been moving to reform the rules and enforcement system here, and having a flood of new posters meant we needed to make sure we set the right tone. I don't like administration by whim or whimsy. I like a set code of rules that folks can look to and know what's good, and what's not. But that was nothing "official," just a natural reaction to a huge influx of registrations.
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Post by Dredd77 on Mar 20, 2017 10:00:39 GMT -5
Does the ban meter deplete ? Have a cool down like Griffs jump? THe ban meter starts at 0%. An official warning moves it to 50%. A second offense within 30 days moves it to 100% and results in a one-week vacation. Offend again within 30 days of coming back, and the ban is permanent. But in all cases save the last, 30 days of no offenses and yeah, it depletes back down to 0%.
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