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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 21:22:18 GMT -5
All I can say is that: 1. Tanker League does not exist 2. You will be playing 6v6s for once after the lower end of Diamond 1
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 19, 2017 21:28:04 GMT -5
You should see his hangar. He has 3 plasma armed Britbots and a DB Rhino. That's it. Every single bot he owns is a Hoover for Tridents/Tulus/Pins, then the crippled wrecks are all set to get eaten by DB/Stuka Griffins. No wonder all he does is complain about 'missileboats'. If I walked around hitting myself in the head with a hammer all day, I'd be very vocal about headaches being our greatest medical threat. Hey bro, it's not like I don't know these Brit bots are hamstrung. It's that they are the only leveled bots I have. I'm aware of the issues and am leveling a rhino, carny and griff. By the time i get them leveled my plasma may just be unnerved, who knows. I think once pix rotates through all weps/bots and has had the "gotta win" crown pay real dollars to buy the new meta, over and over again, they will introduce new bots and weps to start the process all over again. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean that I don't want to play. Unfortunately I'm forced to play the hangar i have. As I've tried to field the lvl 6 griff over my lvl 9 Galahad and that just didn't go well. I keep trying but I just don't have the weapon/bot development to play another hangar type. You can keep calling for me to play a different hangar but unless you dontate the dollars for me to speed it up, it'll be a very long time. By design. Or maybe Pix will raise the max bot and weapon level to 16 to get people to speed the upgrades and buy premium. Pix said Wild West Bots will never be available for normal currency (Ag Au WSP). Pixo is cashing in on causing pain to their playerbase.
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 19, 2017 21:40:05 GMT -5
I agree about purposely causing pain. They nerfed the short game, nerfed the Brit bots. That's a double whammy to Brit bots since they are generally short game bots. They did this to get everyone to buy new bots and mid range hangars. Once they cash in on that switchover they will change it again. Get your gift cards ready, its gonna be expensive.
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We can find a way as a community to push back on the arbitrary rebalance money grabs, by not buying anything from pix. Stop rewarding the bad behavior. Demand fairness in weapon comparisons not based on dps but dps + ranged options. I would call this opportunity. The short range guy has 0 opportunity for dps at 351m the long range guy has 100% at 500 and less. I could have a one shot wep at 10m. But if you have a 3 shot wep at 600m and i cant get close to you my dps is 0.
That would look like this.
Missile A does 5000 damage per volley at 500m
SHotgun wep does 15000 damage at 300m.
Both wepons aren't equal, however if the shotgun guy can close the distance he may have a chance to balance the opportunity. But the opportunity must have a huge reward.
It takes maybe 50 plasma shots to wear down a heavy opponent, tarans stop for reloads. Tridents can 2 shot my Galahad. Oakrans the same. The opportunity is bad in that matchup for the Galahad. It's distance and missile weakness nerfed. THere has to be something that can address the arbitrary nerf. I hope they make plasma 450m and add a small splash.
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Post by Vectivus on Mar 19, 2017 21:43:12 GMT -5
Pix will roll out something to stop tankers soon enough.
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Post by Panther on Mar 19, 2017 21:57:12 GMT -5
Honestly, if anything, they should move reg death button range from 300m to 200m, and, either nerf Russian DB or move it back from 500 to 300m
Death button is everywhere, because it is so effective with very little to counter it. There is little to no defense against it, ancile works only so much, besides there are plenty of bots without an ancile shield. High level DB can take out many bots in one volley, again, the only system i know that can do that, WHY?
I saw a bit of disrespect against the op in this thread, i didnt like that. Thanks mod for stepping in.
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 19, 2017 22:02:39 GMT -5
I probably earned most of that disrespect. I'm pretty vocal and can handle the flaming with reasoned arguments like "because I said so and But daddy, i want an Oompa Loompa nooooooooow!"
The reality is that no single setup should take a double negative. I don't know what pix has against the British, but I think they are good people and worthy of an un nerf by undoing the missile weakness. Just that one fix would short up a lot of people in their short game.
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Post by Why? on Mar 19, 2017 23:40:08 GMT -5
Uh sorry for the ignorance, but what is a Stuka Griffin?
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Post by Paps on Mar 20, 2017 1:05:39 GMT -5
Stuka Griffin is a Griff with aphids and orkans. This forum had a poll a while ago to name that weapon set/mech combo.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 3:08:06 GMT -5
Now, it is the policy of this forum not to allow discussions which encourage, what can be contused as, unethical play style. Pix has made it clear that "tanking" is an unacceptable style of play when the announced the creation of a special server to put chronic "bailer", "leaver" into. Pix are putting on a master class in things unethical and unacceptable, but they seem to get a free pass in some quarters because "that's business". You could conduct business in a legit manner that respects your player base, or you could instead go Pixs way and create artificial pressure to force players to invest in upgrades and new assets, then undermine those investments so you can milk those players even more... all the while keeping the game in a state of flux so that it is hard for players to even figure out where they should be investing their effort. The admin here have gone to great length to point out that Pix doesn't run these forums, yet practices Pix have stated they deem unacceptable are now no go territory here. Sure sounds like Pix are calling the shots.
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Post by BLYTHE on Mar 20, 2017 3:34:21 GMT -5
Stuka Griffin is a Griff with aphids and orkans. This forum had a poll a while ago to name that weapon set/mech combo. Hm, must have missed that. What the heck's wrong with "orkids?"
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Post by ou812gr8m8 on Mar 20, 2017 3:45:34 GMT -5
"(A)DB, Aphid Death Button: a bot configuration consisting of Orkans and Aphids." I'm not sure Stuka stuck as a name.
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Post by The VVatcher on Mar 20, 2017 4:52:55 GMT -5
Normally I'm ok with a little protest, but this guy's reasoning is off. He is not complaining about the League, or the mismatches that it brings. It's not about playing reds two leagues higher than him. He is complaining about his Galahad and Lancelot performing poorly when in fact these are easily two of the top 4 bots in the game.
You have to read his other threads to understand. He has complained about how spirals and aphids were killing his Lancelot. These are some of the rebalance he is asking for.
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Post by Divine Thunder on Mar 20, 2017 5:14:42 GMT -5
Now, it is the policy of this forum not to allow discussions which encourage, what can be contused as, unethical play style. Pix has made it clear that "tanking" is an unacceptable style of play when the announced the creation of a special server to put chronic "bailer", "leaver" into. Pix are putting on a master class in things unethical and unacceptable, but they seem to get a free pass in some quarters because "that's business". You could conduct business in a legit manner that respects your player base, or you could instead go Pixs way and create artificial pressure to force players to invest in upgrades and new assets, then undermine those investments so you can milk those players even more... all the while keeping the game in a state of flux so that it is hard for players to even figure out where they should be investing their effort. The admin here have gone to great length to point out that Pix doesn't run these forums, yet practices Pix have stated they deem unacceptable are now no go territory here. Sure sounds like Pix are calling the shots. I am not excusing Pix for their conduct. They have often said on thing and did another. We, the admins and mods have been in contact with a rep from them for some time now. We are constantly asking questions of their purpose and challenging them on items which we believe are unethical. We cannot control what they do to the game nor the harm they have caused to this community by their sudden nerfs, buffs and other manipulations. They talked about transparency but they have provided little. Whem the new MM was dropped on us, all we go was a question if we noticed a difference. That was it. So, do not think they are getting a free pass. Neither can we really control what you pilots are the exchanges which go on outside this forum. There are chats. Currently, i am in two different clan chats and they are as different as night and day. One is fairly forgiving of Pix. The other, members are dropping out left and right. Now, concerning this forum. We, and i am speaking collectively here for the admins and mods and the entire community, have the responsibly to maintain a certain level of civility here. We do not have to like it what has happened but it does not give licence to bad behavior among ourselves.
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Post by Demosthenes on Mar 20, 2017 5:39:50 GMT -5
To quote a famous opening line: "the world is what it is". Part of the fun of the game is finding a mix of 'bots and weapons that works for you in fun and effectiveness, and adapting to change.
One of the best pieces of advice I would give to anyone playing War Robots (for fun and longevity) is don't put all your eggs in one basket. The meta will change. I wonder how many players have 2-3 maxed Rhinos sat rarely used in their hangars?
Let me give a hypothetical example: let's say the Gareth at a moment in time was unarguably the best 'bot in the game (yes I know there is no such thing, really). Does that mean you should buy 4 or 5? Some people would, whereas I would advise buying one and having lots of fun with it. Then the meta will change. I would be left with a useful fun 'bot to play for variety. The forum would be full of the howls of protest from the people who bought 4, who used them to full benefit whilst they enjoyed their time as the best 'bot, and who now railed against the injustice.
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Mar 20, 2017 6:39:21 GMT -5
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Post by The VVatcher on Mar 20, 2017 8:53:03 GMT -5
Normally I'm ok with a little protest, but this guy's reasoning is off. He is not complaining about the League, or the mismatches that it brings. It's not about playing reds two leagues higher than him. He is complaining about his Galahad and Lancelot performing poorly when in fact these are easily two of the top 4 bots in the game.
You have to read his other threads to understand. He has complained about how spirals and aphids were killing his Lancelot. These are some of the rebalance he is asking for.
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