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Mar 19, 2017 7:18:29 GMT -5
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Post by Panther on Mar 19, 2017 7:18:29 GMT -5
Tanking does not work anymore, the point system definitely made tanking much harder now. Not worth the effort, so please just play to win and deal with the game's matchmaking
After 10 games or so, only tanked about 115 cups. When you win and are in last place you get 12 points, if you lose you get 18 but the losses are too close to 50 to 60%, most teams can absorb the loss of one tanker. It just doesn't work. Please just give up the tanking idea, it is futile to tank anymore, points are definitely against it.
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Mar 19, 2017 7:19:26 GMT -5
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Post by Panther on Mar 19, 2017 7:19:26 GMT -5
-18 I meant**
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Mar 19, 2017 7:41:49 GMT -5
Post by osang on Mar 19, 2017 7:41:49 GMT -5
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Mar 19, 2017 8:18:40 GMT -5
Post by nocluevok on Mar 19, 2017 8:18:40 GMT -5
Worst movie the man ever made.
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Mar 19, 2017 8:38:14 GMT -5
Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Mar 19, 2017 8:38:14 GMT -5
Hey..I liked that movie...
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Mar 19, 2017 9:22:19 GMT -5
Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Mar 19, 2017 9:22:19 GMT -5
I think, I missed that one. What movie is it?
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Post by Paps on Mar 19, 2017 10:33:31 GMT -5
Fury, oddly enough. I thought it was decent. Far from Mister Pitt's worst work.
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Mar 19, 2017 10:45:16 GMT -5
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Post by nocluevok on Mar 19, 2017 10:45:16 GMT -5
Hey..I liked that movie... LOL. Ranks right up there with Rambo firing a LAW off inside a helicopter.
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Mar 19, 2017 10:57:59 GMT -5
Post by boomsplat on Mar 19, 2017 10:57:59 GMT -5
Hey..I liked that movie... LOL. Ranks right up there with Rambo firing a LAW off inside a helicopter. What? I've fired a LAW many times from the inside of a UH-60...just have to be man and chopper enough to withstand the backblast! yeah, the stupid things Hollywood shows like firing a mini gun by hand. i don't know if the scoring system has solved the tanker issues and it sounds like the tanker purgatory is more imaginary than real.
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Mar 19, 2017 11:34:00 GMT -5
Post by Thunderkiss on Mar 19, 2017 11:34:00 GMT -5
Tanking does not work anymore, the point system definitely made tanking much harder now. Not worth the effort, so please just play to win and deal with the game's matchmaking After 10 games or so, only tanked about 115 cups. When you win and are in last place you get 12 points, if you lose you get 18 but the losses are too close to 50 to 60%, most teams can absorb the loss of one tanker. It just doesn't work. Please just give up the tanking idea, it is futile to tank anymore, points are definitely against it. Untrue. You just don't know how. For 2 minutes work a pop, inside of 60 minutes I know how players could tank their score 570 points EASILY. Not trivial.
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Mar 19, 2017 13:44:14 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 13:44:14 GMT -5
Tanking does not work anymore, the point system definitely made tanking much harder now. Not worth the effort, so please just play to win and deal with the game's matchmaking After 10 games or so, only tanked about 115 cups. When you win and are in last place you get 12 points, if you lose you get 18 but the losses are too close to 50 to 60%, most teams can absorb the loss of one tanker. It just doesn't work. Please just give up the tanking idea, it is futile to tank anymore, points are definitely against it. Sorry, this does not match what i have observed. Tanking can still be done easily. There is no leaver protection and being down 1 player is almost an auto loss if you are in silver or above. You can also still tank down to recruit league, despite Pixs claims. Side note - if you are on tanking binge, you shouldnt be active in a match for more than 15 seconds. The big change is that you progress back up again very quickly compared to the old model. +18 after +18 blasts through bronze and low silver in short order.
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Mar 19, 2017 21:27:49 GMT -5
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Post by Panther on Mar 19, 2017 21:27:49 GMT -5
Interesting, yeah, I don't know how to tank 570 points in an hour thats for sure, think a whole squad of 6 should tank, guaranteed loss - just don't touch a beacon.. tank to bronze, competitive levels, no lower, this way you aren't hurting others, just moving you and your team into more competitive levels, 6/8's through some 9/9's
Why Pix is so committed to this terrible MM, even if you are just matched up with players in your same league it wouldn't be so bad, but why 2 and 3 leagues above you, is beyond me.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Mar 23, 2017 11:03:25 GMT -5
So after getting ridiculed as a tanker by Dark Angel here on this form, I decided to follow his profile same as he does mine. A few weeks back he was in Diamond league and had over 600K in damage and 8.0 kill stats and enjoying 80% victories.. Low and behold I look at his profile today and I see this.. Care to explain yourself Dark Angel?
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Mar 23, 2017 11:16:48 GMT -5
Post by cypho on Mar 23, 2017 11:16:48 GMT -5
</div>More than one Dark Angel perhaps? Say it ain't so Dark, say it ain't so...
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Mar 23, 2017 11:55:36 GMT -5
Post by GuitarGuy on Mar 23, 2017 11:55:36 GMT -5
oh no.. its the same Dark Angel.. Look at the clan tag..
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Mar 23, 2017 12:20:20 GMT -5
Post by GuitarGuy on Mar 23, 2017 12:20:20 GMT -5
As far as I am concerned. Every statement/rant Dark Angel has made on this forum about Clubbing, Tanking and Fairness in the game is null and void. He has made it his lives mission it seems to go after players of War Robots that do not follow a certain protocol that he considers exceptable. This screenshot just proves he is NO BETTER than the people he complains about.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 12:25:49 GMT -5
Yup thats me. You know how Pix stated that they made a 'tanker's league'? Complete BS. That was my second round of ditching&idling to get all the screenshots of other player's hangars to prove that Pix lied to us about 'tanker's league' in which I would write a post calling them out. All I need is some screenshots of silver 2, ditching vs idling. So far, from Diamond 2 to Gold 3 has been the same.
Unlike you, you had zero reason to 'play' 1/1 molot cossacks. You wanted to fight easy competition with your 10/12s heavies as you had done with your 4/12 Geps.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Mar 23, 2017 12:48:15 GMT -5
Oh.. So you were doing your tanking all in the name of science?! LMAO! Your so full of POO POO! You have been a clubber since I first saw you months ago! you keep your weapons at 8 or less to stay down low. I dropped down for one afternoon to play with my clan, not club you Jack wagon! Even before the new MM you kept your bots and weapons low so you could prey on lower skilled players than yourself! As long as you have been playing and as good of a player as we know you are, you should easy be in Expert league, but you flounder down low because its easier. Your a joke Dark Angel. And im going make it point to post screen shots of your hangar here so that way everyone can monitor your progress. Feel free to check mine anytime.. Ive moved up to Expert I league. No easy competition up there. But you wouldnt know about that now would you?
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Mar 23, 2017 12:50:40 GMT -5
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Post by lilryry on Mar 23, 2017 12:50:40 GMT -5
How sorry is it that pix lied about the tankers league? They really shot the bed with the new mm and have resorted to lying to the player base in hopes it will help cover up their mistake
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Mar 23, 2017 12:53:00 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 12:53:00 GMT -5
Tanking does not work anymore, the point system definitely made tanking much harder now. Not worth the effort, so please just play to win and deal with the game's matchmaking After 10 games or so, only tanked about 115 cups. When you win and are in last place you get 12 points, if you lose you get 18 but the losses are too close to 50 to 60%, most teams can absorb the loss of one tanker. It just doesn't work. Please just give up the tanking idea, it is futile to tank anymore, points are definitely against it. Untrue. You just don't know how. For 2 minutes work a pop, inside of 60 minutes I know how players could tank their score 570 points EASILY. Not trivial. Takes 2 min. now?
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Mar 23, 2017 13:07:55 GMT -5
Post by GuitarGuy on Mar 23, 2017 13:07:55 GMT -5
I love how Dark Angel says his Tanking is all about "research" HAHAHA! Everyone knows Pix lied about the tankers! every tier has it! We dont need your "research" to prove what we all know anyway. What we need you to do is just shut your piehole about how other people play the game, quit your firetrucking crying about everything you dont like and just follow the same rules you preach about. You cry about the current MM, well, you sir need to take some of the credit for the changes you dont like since you made tons of post about seal clubbing gepards ( you did the same thing, just with different bots) and now the games changed and you STILL cant adapt! You made the idle threat in your post about me, saying you were gonna mech me out. Well, big boy, get your sorry but up into Expert league and come and find me.. if you got the balls..
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Mar 23, 2017 13:09:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 13:09:36 GMT -5
Oh.. So you were doing your tanking all in the name of science?! LMAO! Your so full of POO POO! You have been a clubber since I first saw you months ago! you keep your weapons at 8 or less to stay down low. I dropped down for one afternoon to play with my clan, not club you Jack wagon! Even before the new MM you kept your bots and weapons low so you could prey on lower skilled players than yourself! As long as you have been playing and as good of a player as we know you are, you should easy be in Expert league, but you flounder down low because its easier. Your a joke Dark Angel. And im going make it point to post screen shots of your hangar here so that way everyone can monitor your progress. Feel free to check mine anytime.. Ive moved up to Expert I league. No easy competition up there. But you wouldnt know about that now would you? Then should everyone accept dirty lies that Pix has been posting on FB? When you saw me, you were running 4/12s Gepards along with 5 of you clanned members on comms. I was running 2x 4/6 Thunder Taran Boas, 1x Rocket Golem, 1x Pinata Vityaz and 1x Magnum Eco Patton. Check the wikia if you forgot. And at that time, I was saving for my 1st Orkan while building a heavy hangar. The only weapons that I had at 8 was 3 Pinatas and a Thunder which was on a Leo., And when you tanked, it was during the damage based matchmaking. As far as my judgement goes, none of your clan members had average damages of >50K. If you were really wanting to squad with clan members, a damage drop to 300K would have been sufficient. After I got a solid 6/8 heavy hangar, I mothballed my 4/6s while saving for a Galahad. I have been playing for 5 and a half months now. Don't know if its as long as your 1 yeal plus of clubbing but I'd actually made it to the 3 round to qualify for expert in 7/8s until ditchers on the team threw me under the bus. Feel free to post my hangar every day. That will give more screenshots to my gallery of the supposed 'ditchers leage'. I've partaken in a number of Expert and Master matches due to MM messups and squad battle. A bit challenging for 7/8s but I held my fight there. And before the MM, you have to remember, and I am sure you still do, that you ran 4/12s geps against 6/5-6 Natashas and players that have been playing for less than a month. Much more unfair than low gold battles where I was evenly matches; Galahad for Galahad, Griffin for Griffin. You are a clan leader. Set an example for your clanmates. I have seen them multiple times in Diamond and Gold and MM puts me up with [KAOS] into the woods many times. I have, at least, seen none of the drop while you did.
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Mar 23, 2017 13:16:01 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 13:16:01 GMT -5
I love how Dark Angel says his Tanking is all about "research" HAHAHA! Everyone knows Pix lied about the tankers! every tier has it! We dont need your "research" to prove what we all know anyway. What we need you to do is just shut your piehole about how other people play the game, quit your firetrucking crying about everything you dont like and just follow the same rules you preach about. You cry about the current MM, well, you sir need to take some of the credit for the changes you dont like since you made tons of post about seal clubbing gepards ( you did the same thing, just with different bots) and now the games changed and you STILL cant adapt! You made the idle threat in your post about me, saying you were gonna mech me out. Well, big boy, get your sorry but up into Expert league and come and find me.. if you got the balls.. Most of the forum still think that Ditchers League is a thing, if you have been reading the posts. There is a reason why most threads on the rants section here were about players that had the similar evil behavoir like you. I did adapt. I made every single bot that I play competitively with a meta bot. I will be squadding with some of my expert ranked clanned members tonight EST. Hopefully we get lucky and you'll be on the reds.
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Mar 23, 2017 13:26:22 GMT -5
Post by GuitarGuy on Mar 23, 2017 13:26:22 GMT -5
firstly, Save your "research" lies for someone who believes them, and that aint me. Secondly, My clan is 40 people in a wide range of leagues. If you had read my post on your rant about me tanking,I had to drop that low just to see low gold. And wrong again. Ive been playing the game less than a year. But unlike you.. I play alot more than i post here on the forums. I spent actual money to level my stuff up, If i was like you and didnt spend a dime, I would imagine it would look like i had been playing 2 years, but I havent. Cry about bad match making all you want. its your constant crying about "fairness" in the game that brought about the changes your crying about now. and your stats just a couple of weeks ago.. 8.0 kill stats and over 600k damage in diamond league?! I look at more hangars than you do and its quite obvious you were clubbing. No one averages that kind of damage with level 8 weapons if there in the proper tier. Just save it dude.. Your nothing but a self righteous hypocrite and I want everyone here to know it.
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Post by Divine Thunder on Mar 23, 2017 13:45:39 GMT -5
GuitarGuy and Darkangel
At your current rate, you two will be on our radar. If you have disbutes between you, I suggest you take it private through your message boards. I do not think the entire community wants to wade through what is being exchanged.
We all know there is a tanking problem - fact. Did Pix create a punishment server for them? Good question. Thus far, the reports I have read indicate very questionable. However, will pix eventually deal with the tanker issue? Most likely and soon since it is having far ranging impact on the game and such continued abuse will eventually have financial consequences.
Do we need an argument over this - NO!!!!
So, please move towards a more civil approach to this issue.
Thanks and blessings
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Mar 23, 2017 13:51:38 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 13:51:38 GMT -5
firstly, Save your "research" lies for someone who believes them, and that aint me. Secondly, My clan is 40 people in a wide range of leagues. If you had read my post on your rant about me tanking,I had to drop that low just to see low gold. And wrong again. Ive been playing the game less than a year. But unlike you.. I play alot more than i post here on the forums. I spent actual money to level my stuff up, If i was like you and didnt spend a dime, I would imagine it would look like i had been playing 2 years, but I havent. Cry about bad match making all you want. its your constant crying about "fairness" in the game that brought about the changes your crying about now. and your stats just a couple of weeks ago.. 8.0 kill stats and over 600k damage in diamond league?! I look at more hangars than you do and its quite obvious you were clubbing. No one averages that kind of damage with level 8 weapons if there in the proper tier. Just save it dude.. Your nothing but a self righteous hypocrite and I want everyone here to know it. [ It's not lies. Try if you don't believe. There is NO tanker's league. Did you even post on my rant? I Checked it every day until Super Hero closed it. I spent 20 bucks on 2 of my Orkans. That is 200 dimes. The 600K was achived actually squadding with one of my Diamond 2 clan-mates. Not in Gold. You would be surprised on what you can do with a Trident Fury if you had players going for beacons. You really don't need to spend money. As a 4/12 Gepard user and 7000+ victories you had all the gold you could get. And I can repeat that it was because of Gepard clubber that Pix had to put the new MM in. They could care less about the complaints and I highly doubt that Pix put Elo in to make stuff 'fair'. They put it in to take away of the easy access to the low tiers for farming gold.
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Mar 23, 2017 13:52:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 13:52:30 GMT -5
The above post was posted and written before DivineThunder put his post.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 13:57:05 GMT -5
Lowering your league score on its own is not something Pix has an issue with. They even recommended it as a means to drive medium bots again.
The thing is (1) how you drop your score, and (2) how/if you climb up.
If you drop your score without idling or quitting, but just by using lower level gear, but still fighting hard, then I think you're fine. And once you drop, if you don't insert your max gear to outgun everyone in the lower league, I think you are fine too.
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Mar 23, 2017 14:02:04 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 14:02:04 GMT -5
Lowering your league score on its own is not something Pix has an issue with. They even recommended it as a means to drive medium bots again. The thing is (1) how you drop your score, and (2) how/if you climb up. If you drop your score without idling or quitting, but just by using lower level gear, but still fighting hard, then I think you're fine. And once you drop, if you don't insert your max gear to outgun everyone in the lower league, I think you are fine too. That's exactly what I tested. Fighting while dropping and dropping by idiling. They are showing very simillar results.
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Mar 23, 2017 14:16:24 GMT -5
Post by GuitarGuy on Mar 23, 2017 14:16:24 GMT -5
my post was added to your forum afterwards by the mods because It was my only response on defending myself. Its there.. go look. I explained it all right there. my 7000+ victories doesnt come from clubbing as much as you want to believe it is. It comes from hard fought clan battles with all of those "non- trusted contributors" you complained about to my buddy Random. all of those guys that defended me all are officers or clan leaders of the same high silver tier clans we played against. And yes, Im very aware of what trident furys can do..I run one all the time. And im sure that $20 you spent on the game far outways all the complaining you have done about this game in the 5 months you have been playing. So, when you change back to your normal hangar now that your down in low silver, is that not the same type of clubbing you are so against when you make your way back up to Diamond league were you were originally placed? And whats more.. We dont need you proving to us there isnt a tankers league. It pretty obvious to anyone that plays the game regularly. Nice attempt at a back pedal though.. Oh and make sure you club humanely on your way back up dude.. Wouldnt want you to ruin some new guys playing experience now would you...LOL..
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