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Post by maverick on Feb 7, 2020 7:35:45 GMT -5
If a leech is tethered to me and you shoot at it I will quit the game immediately leaving you a player short. I DON'T CARE HOW CLOSE THE GAME IS. I flat out refuse to lose health because you are a moron, and through no fault of my own. If I do the wrong thing and get my bot destroyed so be it. You, as a blue, destroy my bot and I will penalise you.
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Post by Koalabear on Feb 7, 2020 7:50:42 GMT -5
Unfortunately, it's not possible to NOT shoot the Leech, just like it wasn't entirely possible to NOT shoot the purple god shield on the god bots. These days, there's good reason to shoot the Leech now that we have have viable counters to them. I used to hate it too but now I either suck it pain and hope I don't lose too much or I just eject and go onto my next bot.
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Post by mechtout on Feb 7, 2020 7:58:21 GMT -5
This is why i build corrosion, so i can shoot the leech.
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on Feb 7, 2020 9:06:15 GMT -5
And I've noticed that here lately, I been unable to see when leaches are tethered. There is no indication that they are using their ability. There have been a few times that I only figured it when they weren't losing any health. And distance has nothing to do with it.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Feb 7, 2020 10:01:02 GMT -5
I will shoot a tethered leech if these conditions exist:
1. I have lock down weapons and there is a chance to lock them down. 2. I have Corrosion weapons as the DoT is not repulsed back to you 3. They are almost dead and are a legitimate threat to winning the game if I don't shoot them at that time.
If none of those conditions exist or if the teammate they are tethered to are in a spot that will mess up our chances of winning if the Leech repulses back to them, I will not shoot them.
We all deal with people shooting them while tethered to us... it is part of the game now. It gets better as you rise up... but not by much.
Good Luck and try to find the fun in the midst of the chaos that is the game now.
IMO, YMMV
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Post by spezialdupe on Feb 7, 2020 10:09:02 GMT -5
And I've noticed that here lately, I been unable to see when leaches are tethered. There is no indication that they are using their ability. There have been a few times that I only figured it when they weren't losing any health. And distance has nothing to do with it. I have this problem, too, but it is said that right above a leeching leech there should be some light blue coat-of-arms-like emblem to be seen.
edit: I just realized this must be the general Damage Resistance sign. Ahem! - ok, but still, if it is showing up theLeech must be actively leeching.
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on Feb 7, 2020 11:18:07 GMT -5
And I've noticed that here lately, I been unable to see when leaches are tethered. There is no indication that they are using their ability. There have been a few times that I only figured it when they weren't losing any health. And distance has nothing to do with it. I have this problem, too, but it is said that right above a leeching leech there should be some light blue coat-of-arms-like emblem to be seen.
edit: I just realized this must be the general Damage Resistance sign. Ahem! - ok, but still, if it is showing up theLeech must be actively leeching.
true enough. But, in the middle of a firefight and you're being rocked by friendly/enemy fire. I'm usually not trying to see signs above people, but will stop shooting when I see the pink tether.
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Post by Koko Bop on Feb 7, 2020 12:43:59 GMT -5
As a leech runner, I realize that leeches must die, even mine. If I get tethered, and the leech is blasting me, I shoot back: leeches must die.
I find I have a fairly low survival rate vs leeches, whether I’m in one or not - much like I have with Ao Jun. Just standing there, dying and leaving the leech in action, doesn’t save you, doesn’t save me, doesn’t win the match.
But here’s a pertinent question: in such a situation, if we eject, do we count as kills for our attacker(s)?
‘Cause, if we don’t...I have a plan
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Post by spezialdupe on Feb 7, 2020 16:17:37 GMT -5
I have this problem, too, but it is said that right above a leeching leech there should be some light blue coat-of-arms-like emblem to be seen.
edit: I just realized this must be the general Damage Resistance sign. Ahem! - ok, but still, if it is showing up theLeech must be actively leeching.
true enough. But, in the middle of a firefight and you're being rocked by friendly/enemy fire. I'm usually not trying to see signs above people, but will stop shooting when I see the pink tether. absolutely!
Pixonic once introduced that Fangs Out symbol on the Falcon for the sake of fairness to all other players (if I remember that correctly they announced it like that). Since then the Falcon running Fangs Out is yelling "Look at me! I am taking triple the damage right now, offer ends soon!" and everyone could see that even from the other end of the battlefield.
What a joke compared to that permanent perfidious threat a Leech imposes (leeching or not) without having any clear indicator about its activity status.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2020 18:03:49 GMT -5
Dude....I know, right! But,............
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on Feb 7, 2020 22:49:32 GMT -5
Dude....I know, right! But,............ I'm sorry. My 「dookie」s are planned in detail.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 4:52:35 GMT -5
I will shoot a tethered leech if these conditions exist: 1. I have lock down weapons and there is a chance to lock them down. 2. I have Corrosion weapons as the DoT is not repulsed back to you 3. They are almost dead and are a legitimate threat to winning the game if I don't shoot them at that time. If none of those conditions exist or if the teammate they are tethered to are in a spot that will mess up our chances of winning if the Leech repulses back to them, I will not shoot them. We all deal with people shooting them while tethered to us... it is part of the game now. It gets better as you rise up... but not by much. Good Luck and try to find the fun in the midst of the chaos that is the game now. IMO, YMMV Good list. I'd add that I shoot Leeches if I'm in a Titan as my weapons are *fairly* well levelled and do serious damage to it, even with that massive DR. The Leeching mechanism is a pretty ugly addition to the game, I hope that we don't see any more of it.
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Post by bravex on Feb 8, 2020 7:17:21 GMT -5
And I've noticed that here lately, I been unable to see when leaches are tethered. There is no indication that they are using their ability. There have been a few times that I only figured it when they weren't losing any health. And distance has nothing to do with it. I often fire at a Leech with no knowledge that it is actively Leeching. Only when I notice that it's taking almost no damage do I look around and see one of my teammates wrapped in a purple energy ball. The graphics need to show more cleary when the sucker is sucking and not who is getting sucked.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Feb 9, 2020 3:22:56 GMT -5
If a leech is tethered to me and you shoot at it I will quit the game immediately leaving you a player short. I DON'T CARE HOW CLOSE THE GAME IS. I flat out refuse to lose health because you are a moron, and through no fault of my own. If I do the wrong thing and get my bot destroyed so be it. You, as a blue, destroy my bot and I will penalise you. I got some sort of karma-revenge on a blue team mate of mine. I hunted a red Ao Jun as it was just about to land, a Leech decides to tether to me and blue team mate decides to let rip into the full healthed Leech and of course I die and I don't even get to kill the Ao Jun. The Leech kills me and the team mate anyway and the team mate spawns back in, just in time to get wiped out by the same Ao Jun coming off its cooldown. No winners here, except for the opposition.
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Post by BlackGrouse on Feb 9, 2020 8:03:46 GMT -5
The graphics need to show more cleary when the sucker is sucking and not who is getting sucked. Exactly, Leech should have Ares/Hades/Nemesis style purple bar or something like that on bottom of its health bar when ability is on. In the picture below I really didn't saw the purple beam or even that DR symbol on top of it which was perfectly blended on to the blue beacon letter. Screenshot shows purple beam very well (plus Pulsar firings!), but obviously it's a still image. In the heat of battle there is lot of "noise". Secondly, I usually don't stare my target. Very often my sight wonders around the screen to check ability and weapon statuses or looking where those red triangles goes in my screen edges. During that time I might shoot tethered Leech accidentally.
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Post by maverick on Feb 9, 2020 15:16:04 GMT -5
Fair enough I didn't realise it didn't show up on the small screen, I play on my 27" monitor and I forget about the small screen. Also I was just venting I was pissed off with getting leeched. I will try to remember in future that people are playing on phones. Thanks to everyone that replied.
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Post by RightOn on Feb 10, 2020 9:40:57 GMT -5
I'll shoot tethered leeches regardless - in a Titan
It's only 35%. All the more reason to if you're a 「really happy person」 running PS and not healing lol
Oh 「dookie」 a word I found wasn't censored..call the police!
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Post by Shockwave on Feb 21, 2020 14:41:56 GMT -5
I actually do the same, I quit the game if my teammates keep shooting the Leeech attached to me.
If you're willing to kill a teammate that means you're willing to lose the match.
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Post by WattTron on Feb 21, 2020 14:52:20 GMT -5
OK, I'll just shoot at it if it has a lot of health and you have little to none left, deal?
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Post by Sebenza 21 on Mar 25, 2020 1:06:25 GMT -5
I will shoot a tethered leech if these conditions exist: 1. I have lock down weapons and there is a chance to lock them down. 2. I have Corrosion weapons as the DoT is not repulsed back to you 3. They are almost dead and are a legitimate threat to winning the game if I don't shoot them at that time. If none of those conditions exist or if the teammate they are tethered to are in a spot that will mess up our chances of winning if the Leech repulses back to them, I will not shoot them. We all deal with people shooting them while tethered to us... it is part of the game now. It gets better as you rise up... but not by much. Good Luck and try to find the fun in the midst of the chaos that is the game now. IMO, YMMV Good list of conditions, here's another. I just found this out, a suppressed leech only transfers a tiny bit of damage to its victim. My rayker with the suppressor pilot skill reduces damage received from that robot by 87.5%, so the leech attached to me takes 10% of the damage I deal but then I only take 3.75% of the damage dealt. I had a shottie leech run right up to my avenger/shredders rayker and i destroyed him. Left me buggered though but I survived!
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Post by psychopsyd on Mar 25, 2020 1:56:40 GMT -5
If PIXO had structured the REPULSE shield like the RETRIBUTION shield:
1) LEECHes would collect more damage to transfer and could help protect his team. 2) LEECHes would be subject to the same type of attacks that are successful against PANTHEON bots.
This would have been a fair trade.
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Post by AcuityAxiom on Mar 25, 2020 2:19:27 GMT -5
The only time i'll wildly fire at a Leech is with corrosion weapons.
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Post by bunnyhoppingrailgun on Mar 25, 2020 4:14:37 GMT -5
Leeching needs appropriate symbol like inverted fangs out; instead of a big shoot me now symbol, a stop shooting, mother fluffer! symbol.
I'm learning to stealth leech; camouflage the tether somehow like send it through walls so enemy don't see it.
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Mar 25, 2020 4:47:09 GMT -5
Sometimes it's unavoidable, but this "I'm gonna take my toys and go home" mentality is so 3rd grade. I'll be happy to take the extra honor points for picking up the slack of Rage Quitters. I get killed a lot when tethered and I'm clearly behind cover so I know my teammates are shooting the Leech. I don't take it personally, because it's the state of the game. In Champs, hopefully your bots have enough HP to survive this kind of damage because you can't escape them unless you phase shift or sometimes in Hover you can take off and get out of range. But I have a couple of Corrosion builds so I can attack Leeches with impunity. I love when Leeches see my Raijin as easy prey, then melt like the wicked witch of the West.
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Post by rags on Mar 25, 2020 4:53:17 GMT -5
It’s pretty easy to see what’s tethered to what... just pay attention
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 8:48:52 GMT -5
This thread is so irrelevant now, lol.....just wait for leech to tether a Titan, then enjoy the kill!
EZ........
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Mar 25, 2020 18:49:34 GMT -5
This is why i build corrosion, so i can shoot the leech. The main issue with this is that the only part of it that doesn’t transfer to allies is the corrosion. The base damage output (minus dot effect) you do to an active Leech transfers to the tethered ally. The value of corrosion weapons against Leech is merely that the DOT ignores the damage resistance, NOT that the entire salvo ignores the Repulse.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 18:55:27 GMT -5
Let’s face it...it is a joy shooting leeches, no matter what they are doing in that moment.....
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Mar 25, 2020 19:08:01 GMT -5
I get your frustration, but really the only person that gets the short end of the stick from your rage quit is you. Now, you do what you want, thatâs fine, but the fact is you are the one that gets negative stats and no rewards whatsoever from leaving the match. If you are playing solo and have played this game a long time, by now you should be well use to random teammates doing frustrating things, but you do not have to punish yourself for it. Continuing to push beacons, damage, and other honor tasks rewards you regardless of the match outcome.
As for shooting an active Leech, this robot is a threat even with very low hp, so I only shoot it if it is almost dead already.
As for people not being able to tell when it is active, thatâs horse「dookie」. THE GIANT PULSING DAMAGE RESISTANCE ICON ABOVE THE HEAD OF THE LEECH (which you can see regardless of the enemy location) IS A CLEAR INDICATOR LEECH IS ACTIVE, and WHEN THST ICON VANISHES, IT MEANS THE LEECH REPULSE HAS STOPPED. If a Leech has a sliver of health, I shoot, but if it has close to a quarter hp or more left I donât fire at it. But expecting everyone to have this awareness is unrealistic. I mean, weâre talking about thousands of players who even upon making it into Champ League still donât know how to control beacons. This is why running solo or a duo, my purpose is to accomplish as much of the honor tasks as I can for the best rewards. This means I try to win, but my main goal is resource acquisition. This makes it very easy to accept poor tactics by my teammates.
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Post by mechtout on Mar 25, 2020 20:58:10 GMT -5
This is why i build corrosion, so i can shoot the leech. The main issue with this is that the only part of it that doesn’t transfer to allies is the corrosion. The base damage output (minus dot effect) you do to an active Leech transfers to the tethered ally. The value of corrosion weapons against Leech is merely that the DOT ignores the damage resistance, NOT that the entire salvo ignores the Repulse. I still shoot the leech
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