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Post by SoCalGrndR on Nov 9, 2016 17:26:02 GMT -5
I just purchased a Galahad & Rhino last week! Little Au help from the pumkin patch, but that was. Grinding out 5th slot, then Galahad / Rhino.
Question is any tips out there on piloting Rhino anyone would like to share?
My issues:
* keep advancing to far and getting flanked
*beacons like center in Yamatau - end up targeting through back of shield - who do to chose who you are firing at?
*knife fighting plasma tips / dropping shield.
Just curious, know I will get hang of it but I have received so much good advice I want to keep asking! Everyone has been so helpful.
Current hanger below - do have ant 8th level Griff I can bring but dont know if that will push me up in tier? Assume I am low gold now?
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Post by 〓SUPΞRBΛM〓 on Nov 9, 2016 18:03:48 GMT -5
You have to just keep working with it. It was very awkward for me at first too. Just get comfortable with shielding and unshielding for maneuvering. When engaging a red around a corner or on the other side of a barrier always unshield to be ready.
Also, I personally prefer the death button Rhino and Pulse Galahad. You may try switching those weapons out (if you only have 1 orkan place a tulumbas on the rhino and save up for another orkan). To me, with the Rhino you want to deal as much damage as quickly as possible when you unsheild and the orks are perfect for it. Rhinos will take you right up to a red's face so knock em out quick. The Pulse Galahad may soon become your favorite knifer. Use corner shots along with your shield and you'll be able to take on 2-3 reds at a time (unless they have rockets). Only shield when taking fire...keep the speed for as long as possible.
Hope this helps! Try it out and let me know.
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Post by 〓SUPΞRBΛM〓 on Nov 9, 2016 18:05:25 GMT -5
Also, Stew Pendous has a great video on YouTube showing tactics with a Galahad.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 9, 2016 18:14:27 GMT -5
First, disclaimer, Im a noob Rhino pilot too... almost 1 week.
The advice that helped me was to try it with DB first... that makes you stay out of crossfires as you will tend to flank or surprise an enemy to kill them with deathbuttons, getting back into cover to reload if multiple enemies, or if 1 enemy, killing it and having time to reload.
Dealing with the shield is the hardest part... but shield down its a slow griff that can't jump and tons of HP. I tried plasma first, too. For me, it wasn't when to do what that was hard... but learning the quirks of the shield and driving it with it, learning when to drop, and use the plasma, etc. In the middle of a center beacon cap battle, that's a bad time to learn!
Also, If you decide to do that, the plasma galahad is prolly the best build for it... and I can give you all kinds of tips on that. Try switching the roles out for the Gala and the Rhino and see how you do...
Also, ask strayed for his Rhino guide...
And Adrian has a decent short tutorial video on running a rhino, if you haven't seen it, check it out...
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 9, 2016 18:15:45 GMT -5
LOL, you posted as I was typing, SUPER
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 9, 2016 18:22:36 GMT -5
The Galahad is pretty intuitive... there are just a few little quirks that will help survive longer... what Super said is on point, but with the shield down, even at relatively low levels, the Galahad can backpedal away from Orks and not catch most, and sometimes any, of the damage... IF you are beyond 200m.
If you are closer the Orks will beat you.
Advance on contested beacons with the shield to the side like an ECU... then get good at turning while the shield is swinging to front, and you can advance on almost any bot that isnt splash, and start hammering away. Use cover if you can, but if you can't the Galahad will survive longer than almost any comparable level bot. Juke and jink and jive while you are shooting and many of the enemies shots will miss.
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Post by 〓SUPΞRBΛM〓 on Nov 9, 2016 19:43:14 GMT -5
Haha! Yeah good point tricky, I forgot to mention using the shield on the side when advancing.
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Nov 10, 2016 2:45:41 GMT -5
First, Thanks guys for the replies!
Awesome advice on this forum.
I did the start the changes already- look below - won several in a row! Win rate to 68%.
Plasma Galahad - Yes that is AWESOME!!
Watched video - should a looked at utube. Really - REALLY useful. The snap turns/ down shield. Definitely going to DB.
What do you prefer Orks or Tums?
Like the rate of Fire w Tums I have on Griff, buuut auto reload on Orkan to finish off is really great (I have used those single rockets many time to finish someone).
I only have 1 orkan - 2nd Orka is definitely next Au purchase, but at 300 Au right now.
IDEA!! - will run run side x side ork/tum & see what I like - might be horrendous. Who knows
I'll post back how it was.
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Post by zeus on Nov 10, 2016 2:57:08 GMT -5
Don't have a rhino yet, but I prioritise rhinos if I'm using missiles, so I guess one tip is to keep an open eye out for missile Bots who will gun for you when they notice a rhino in the distance and take advantage of buildings as much as possible instead of thinking you're invulnerable behind that shield. I noticed some rhinos who will waltz into open space because they have a shield, but I'm in silver where rhinos are still squishy so this might not apply to you.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 10, 2016 3:02:15 GMT -5
First, Thanks guys for the replies! Awesome advice on this forum. I did the start the changes already- look below - won several in a row! Win rate to 68%. Plasma Galahad - Yes that is AWESOME!! Watched video - should a looked at utube. Really - REALLY useful. The snap turns/ down shield. Definitely going to DB. What do you prefer Orks or Tums? Like the rate of Fire w Tums I have on Griff, buuut auto reload on Orkan to finish off is really great (I have used those single rockets many time to finish someone). I only have 1 orkan - 2nd Orka is definitely next Au purchase, but at 300 Au right now. IDEA!! - will run run side x side ork/tum & see what I like - might be horrendous. Who knows I'll post back how it was. I've tried rdb on it... And it works for that... But with orks it's in its natural condition. I prefer that setup (DB). A lot of folks swear by the plasma, but it's admitted that it takes a little more precision driving to take advantage of the range and know when to shield. DB and plasma are most likely the top 2 configs for it. Although, like any bot nowadays, aphids are used a lot too. With both types of medium weapons... Orks and tarans. Same with mags... The Hell Fire variant has mags and orks. Personally though, DB is good for me right now and what I would recommend. For now... Tulums will work as a substitute. Just treat it like an ork as far as range and it will be close in performance to the legit DB. |
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Post by Kinetic1 on Nov 10, 2016 3:48:57 GMT -5
That Rhino is going to be super slow at lvl 3, lvl that bad boy up along with the Boa
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Nov 10, 2016 4:19:02 GMT -5
Ya Kinetic1,
Feels big & slow right now. Funny when I use it 1st bot, like Im at 'run what u brung' amateur drags to see if I can cap a beacon LOL!!
Finishing my Sura pair to lvl7 on the griff, then I will lvl up Rhino / Galahad.
I tell ya, its like a whole new game runnin all hvys & a Boa!!
I ended up gettin the Rhino & Galahad @ same time - I was hoping the pumpkin patch might help, did w some gold, thats it. Getting both at same time is a handful.
Been 4- 5 days now.
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Post by BigBear on Nov 10, 2016 5:14:52 GMT -5
I would put the Tulumbas back on the medium slots and start upgrading them till you can afford your second Orkan,Tarans need fire time to be effective and that means more time your shield is down,and of course upgrade your Rhino too
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 5:37:17 GMT -5
And just because nobody mentioned it: weapons to 7, then 8  (But level those bots to 6 first) |
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Post by Strayed on Nov 10, 2016 11:28:49 GMT -5
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Post by Vindictive999 on Nov 11, 2016 6:29:04 GMT -5
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Post by Mechronis on Nov 11, 2016 12:02:04 GMT -5
Im using what I am calling my "Mech button." It is basically a Rhino with Tarans and Aphids. The Aphids are useful for detering enemies that decide to run up ton ou while your sheild is up. The Tarans offer great splash damage...in an Ironic sense, like magnums and stalkers, the Taran is made for the rhino.
But Ill exploan that a later time. I typically beacon run with the thing, popping off ahipd shots at targets of opportunity. Then when they come trying to find what they presume is a rhino, they find another salvo of aphids and a full health Rhino. I have gotten 500k+ damage and 10 au from that bot alone in multiple matches. Granted, I'm in high silver. Up in gold its a "highest DPS possible world" rather than strategically placed weapons.
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Post by EatStinkyTofu on Nov 11, 2016 12:38:10 GMT -5
When I first started running Rhinos I used Orkan-Magnums. That way if I accidentally picked the wrong opponent or wrong firing position, I would have plasma or rockets available. Plus, if I unloaded all my rockets, it was nice to have something to fall back on. True you lose the synergy of one type of weapon but I definitely felt more at ease that I wouldn't be in a situation with my pants completely down. Something to be said about using something that feels "safe," when you start off. Now that I've gotten better at piloting, I am using DB.
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Post by Zhøu™ on Nov 13, 2016 22:13:03 GMT -5
Some tips I can think off my head:
1. Hug walls, walls are your best friend, hugging a wall will eliminate the risk of being flanked from the side.
2. You can still use your camera to pan left and right when shield is up. Just turn slightly away from the direction you want to move towards, then pan your camera quickly on the other direction. And when you're back to the center, your bot is back on the correct direction.
3. Don't move in too fast, you will likely get surrounded and flanked. Use lots of cover.
4. But if you do move in too fast, and facing a Rhino, don't just stop there (many make this mistake), continue moving forward and land on his side, then drop shield, turn and unload everything. If he doesn't drop his shield to turn fast enough, you can take him out before he takes you out.
5. Always plan your path, and make sure its the path with least "sharp" turns. And stay close to walls as much as you can.
6. When drop shield and unload weapons (especially plasma), do not move forward anymore, move left and right and stay within maximum range.
7. Be patient, especially at corners, wait for them to turn the corner, instead of you going forward and having to turn to shoot, the Rhino turning speed is slow, and you will be in a disadvantage.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 13, 2016 22:23:14 GMT -5
Some tips I can think off my head: 1. Hug walls, walls are your best friend, hugging a wall will eliminate the risk of being flanked from the side. 2. You can still use your camera to pan left and right when shield is up. Just turn slightly away from the direction you want to move towards, then pan your camera quickly on the other direction. And when you're back to the center, your bot is back on the correct direction. 3. Don't move in too fast, you will likely get surrounded and flanked. Use lots of cover. 4. But if you do move in too fast, and facing a Rhino, don't just stop there (many make this mistake), continue moving forward and land on his side, then drop shield, turn and unload everything. If he doesn't drop his shield to turn fast enough, you can take him out before he takes you out. 5. Always plan your path, and make sure its the path with least "sharp" turns. And stay close to walls as much as you can. 6. When drop shield and unload weapons (especially plasma), do not move forward anymore, move left and right and stay within maximum range. 7. Be patient, especially at corners, wait for them to turn the corner, instead of you going forward and having to turn to shoot, the Rhino turning speed is slow, and you will be in a disadvantage. Lots of hugging walls in there, getting sick of aphids maybe? ;p |
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Post by Zhøu™ on Nov 13, 2016 22:27:53 GMT -5
Some tips I can think off my head: 1. Hug walls, walls are your best friend, hugging a wall will eliminate the risk of being flanked from the side. 2. You can still use your camera to pan left and right when shield is up. Just turn slightly away from the direction you want to move towards, then pan your camera quickly on the other direction. And when you're back to the center, your bot is back on the correct direction. 3. Don't move in too fast, you will likely get surrounded and flanked. Use lots of cover. 4. But if you do move in too fast, and facing a Rhino, don't just stop there (many make this mistake), continue moving forward and land on his side, then drop shield, turn and unload everything. If he doesn't drop his shield to turn fast enough, you can take him out before he takes you out. 5. Always plan your path, and make sure its the path with least "sharp" turns. And stay close to walls as much as you can. 6. When drop shield and unload weapons (especially plasma), do not move forward anymore, move left and right and stay within maximum range. 7. Be patient, especially at corners, wait for them to turn the corner, instead of you going forward and having to turn to shoot, the Rhino turning speed is slow, and you will be in a disadvantage. Lots of hugging walls in there, getting sick of aphids maybe? ;p Lmao, yes, and Hydras too. So annoying. |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 13, 2016 22:30:17 GMT -5
Sorry m8, hugging walls ain't going to help you against hydras, they do some matrix s***  |
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Post by B30RLL on Nov 14, 2016 6:57:58 GMT -5
The Tarans offer great splash damage...in an Ironic sense, like magnums and stalkers, the Taran is made for the rhino. Tarans have splash dmg? Didn't know this. |
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Post by couchtrader on Nov 14, 2016 7:02:47 GMT -5
I don't think they do. I do however start shooting at the corner as the bot is coming out.
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Post by Mechronis on Nov 14, 2016 12:45:44 GMT -5
The Tarans offer great splash damage...in an Ironic sense, like magnums and stalkers, the Taran is made for the rhino. Tarans have splash dmg? Didn't know this. Sorry, I meant burst. |
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