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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 1:28:10 GMT -5
As always, any feedback is appreciated. Also, ideal weaponry would be appreciated.
I do understand that it’s basically a tank, but I would like more info. Gracias!
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Post by spartan44 on Jan 25, 2020 1:30:43 GMT -5
I love mine. Nothing compares to avengers.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 2:16:12 GMT -5
I love mine. Nothing compares to avengers. What do you love about it?
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jan 25, 2020 2:27:02 GMT -5
I'm in Champions League 5. Run a maxed Bulwark with Glaciers. Used to run Avengers but the Glaciers are so much better against Phantoms and Leech since they love to get up close and personal to do their damage and the rockets will splash them even at point blank.
Use just enough rockets to slow an advancing Leech down so they can't do as much damage, alternate between aegis and physical shield, wait out their ability then pounce.
Don't get me wrong, it doesn't always work but I can get consistent results and with the nerf to PS, it's become a bit easier too. Ao Jun is the Bulwarks Achilles heel, but then again, which bot isn't against the Ao Jun?
I made a recent video on the Bulwark, check it out if you like.
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Post by zombiewolf907 on Jan 25, 2020 2:27:47 GMT -5
I have one which I rarely use. My issue, same with all long range bots, is that the newer bots run circles around them and are more powerful. Used to use mine on LR maps but Au Juns and Phantoms close in too fast. Plus with PS other bots can likewise easily close in. Finally I can’t imagine what an Au Ming does to one. Just my thoughts. Personally I wish I had not made the investment. I have not run my LR hanger for the last few months.
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Post by foxypotato on Jan 25, 2020 3:49:16 GMT -5
Great bot that is more or less balanced against older content. The Ao Jun is completely broken and wears anything the Bullwark does better but at 10 times better because stealth, 100+kph and 1.5 built in Embers that also auto aim and also do DoT because extra 「fluffernutter」 you to all notAJ.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 4:07:32 GMT -5
Great bot that is more or less balanced against older content. The Ao Jun is completely broken and wears anything the Bullwark does better but at 10 times better because stealth, 100+kph and 1.5 built in Embers that also auto aim and also do DoT because extra ?fluffernutter? you to all notAJ. Every bot is cannon fodder to a Jun. Does it still, in general, hold up?
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Post by Eradicator1 on Jan 25, 2020 4:48:45 GMT -5
B-dubs is my favorite bot in the game. So much so that I actually bought both of mine. Got him because I was getting tired of being slowly scourged to death in my other bots on yamantu.
Cons. A little slow compared to some bots. I have pilot skill to speed him up. Juns kill em. Shotties and machine guns shred both the physical and aegis. Just gotta boost him up and he can last. Ming’s can land shots past your physical shield. Be careful of anything running into your shield, like pursuers. Sometimes someone will shield breaker you, but just use cover to your advantage. Your not invincible, just really strong.
Ran into a maxed one last week with I’m guessing maxed fortifiers. His aegis regen time was super fast. I would deplete it and when waiting for a reload, he was full aegis again. He won that one.
Pros. Aegis lets you walk away from an encounter and not get lockdowned or damaged. I use this when looking to reload or find cover. It can be fun and challenging balancing out when to use aegis and physical shield. He looks cool with the high mount weapons and no arms. Sounds cool when turning the turret. You will be in “the club” when you run one. You can protect you fellow blues with the aegis. I have even stepped in front of a blue to absorb an ares blue blast. Just to help out and because I can without getting damaged. It seems like a balanced bot to me. The high mount weapons can fire over cover and not take any hits. Great for shooting while your aegis recharges. Aegis on lets you walk around and not get killed down, but usually I only have it on during retreat Or encounters. Stray bullets eat it up. Better to have it when you actually need it.
My mk2 lv 4 runs sinister glaciers. Got the idea of the rocket build from tony at foggy gaming. Actually got the whole b-dubs idea from him. Glaciers slow the fast bots down that would otherwise give you issues. Speed kills in this game. If they ain’t flying, then they be dying. Plus you get splash to work around cover and prematurely activate superpowers. You will need this as he is strong just not overpowered. Last stand and two fortifiers. I use deathmark on this one for added butt whooping. The quicker you eliminate a threat the better off you will be. Pilot skills are mostly to beef him up. With the one speed skill. No beacon skills.
Second one is lv9. A little squishy. So he gets avengers. Last stand, fortifier, maxed reg armor, and phase shift. This is my Ming hunter. Somewhere around lv8 to 9 is where he becomes a bit tough. Phase shift helps with lockdown and in helping to wait out abilities. I had the avengers on my jun, but consistently score higher damage within them on bully. Plus he is more fun to run. I’m my opinion.
Mk2 one is the feng one (red) Second one is marine. Just so I don’t mix them up. I tried to use the stock green color to match the sinister glaciers, but played it terribly. So went back with red. Lol.
I have over a year running these bad boys, so if I missed something (probably did). I’m here for ya.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 6:45:24 GMT -5
it's not a true Tank.
It can be tanky. Brawl. Be a Support bot.
Pro. There's a counter to every Tank, so bully has big Aegis shield.
Con. Harder to use n manage 2 shields.
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Jan 25, 2020 10:32:12 GMT -5
I wasn't sure if building a Glacier Bulwark was the right idea, but I had 2 Sinister Glaciers and the only bot they cosmetically matched with was Bulwark. I plunked down for it and used the excess gold for 3 Fortifier modules, which even at LVL 1 are a no-brainer to get. Personally, I like it a lot, but I had initially built it as a Calamity Bulwark, but ever since the Legendary Pilot for Ao Jun came it, it'll be my bird hunter of choice. Therefore, it's been retired to my secondary hangar.
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Post by T-Town Striker on Jan 25, 2020 11:32:51 GMT -5
Bulwark is one of those Bots most don’t bat an eye at to use, I was one of those till I got engrossed into the Bot. He’s my drop Bot and at times survives the entire TDM getting me approximately 1.2 M in damage. Quantum Radar onBulwark is one of those Bots most don’t bat an eye at to use, I was one of those till I got engrossed into the Bot. He’s my drop Bot and at times survives the entire TDM getting me approximately 1.2 M in damage. Quantum Radar on mine is deadly on the White Dragon with my weapons of choice MK 2 Level 12 Calamities. I use a fully maxed output.gif Module to increase my defensive strength , my Bulwark is MK 1 Level 12 and does an awesome job of surviving exceptions are death squad Leeches and Ao Jun beat my Bulwark down fast. mine is deadly on the White Dragon with my weapons of choice MK 2 Level 12 Calamities. I use a fully maxed output.gif Module to increase my defensive strength , my Bulwark is MK 1 Level 12 and does an awesome job of surviving exceptions are death squad Leeches and Ao Jun beat my Bulwark down fast.
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Post by foxypotato on Jan 25, 2020 12:48:19 GMT -5
Great bot that is more or less balanced against older content. The Ao Jun is completely broken and wears anything the Bullwark does better but at 10 times better because stealth, 100+kph and 1.5 built in Embers that also auto aim and also do DoT because extra ?fluffernutter? you to all notAJ. Every bot is cannon fodder to a Jun. Does it still, in general, hold up? I think so. I also run silver bots and weapons in fringe Champions League so everything that is not a Griffin or Natasha seems powerful to me. My gripe with the Bullwark is that it is slow and easy prey to Ao Jun. Phase Shift helps with that though.
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Post by non4me on Jan 25, 2020 13:57:08 GMT -5
Of all the bots I've played over the years, the invader and my bully are still in the line up. Bully put me into champs back in the day when tridents still ruled. Now it supports 2 avengers at MK2 L6, one full up fortifier and another at lvl 2. Pilot skills include speed, armor, tough guy, mechanic, and sharpshooter. It brawls, supports, takes down Kids and AM (for now). Usually my second or third drop
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Jan 25, 2020 14:20:41 GMT -5
1) Bulwark is NOT a Tank. T-Falcon, Fenrir, Raijin, Lancelot, even Phantom are Tanks. Bulwark is a Tough Guy: he can take a hit, but don't get careless. 2) Bulwark is moderate speed, but quite nimble, i.e. he changes directions quickly and easily, unlike some Bots (Carnage, I'm looking at you) 3) Even with your shields, COVER is your best friend. Even 5 seconds of Aegis regen can make a big difference. 4) IMHO, Bulwark shines as a brawler. Vipers, Avengers, Exodus/Glacier, Calamities, or my personal preference, Sledgehammers (see above). 5) DEFENSE! At least one Fortifier Module (I intend to run 2), take all 3 Shield-related skills. The increased Aegis regeneration is priceless. I prefer Redeemers because they hit hard and have a relatively quick reload. You don't want a lot of down time when you're in a hot zone. One-on-One my Bulwark isn't afraid of much. Fenrir, T-Falc and Leech; about even vs Phantom and Ao Jun if I'm paying attention. Even does pretty well vs Titans.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 14:44:04 GMT -5
Loving the feedback, friends!
Was thinking Avengers/Calamities...can anyone make a strong argument for redeemers? I have two, but they really aren’t in circulation, and plasma isn’t used much on the battlefield these days.
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Jan 25, 2020 15:22:51 GMT -5
Loving the feedback, friends! Was thinking Avengers/Calamities...can anyone make a strong argument for redeemers? I have two, but they really aren’t in circulation, and plasma isn’t used much on the battlefield these days. To expand on what I said above about Redeemers: Very much playstyle-specific. Exodus/Glaciers have higher DPS, but can leave you in the lurch with the slow reload. Avergers are a great choice if you hang back a bit more, 300-450m, but again, you need to be wary of the reload. Any of those will likely take out a Redeemer Bully in a straight toe-to-toe fight, but the fast reload on Redeemers are a huge benefit in an extended fight. It also syncs up well with the shield cooldown: empty guns, switch shields, 5 seconds behind cover, reactivate Aegis, step back out with partial shield and full reload. Lots of players underestimate the amount of damage Redeemers dish out. 2 volleys to splatter a Spectre or Leech. 3 volleys to take out Ares or Ao Jun. Try it out with level 5-6 Redeemers to see how it fits your play style. I guarantee once they're upgraded you will NOT be disappointed with the damage output.
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Post by Garbage game on Jan 25, 2020 16:30:01 GMT -5
I'm in Champions League 5. Run a maxed Bulwark with Glaciers. Used to run Avengers but the Glaciers are so much better against Phantoms and Leech since they love to get up close and personal to do their damage and the rockets will splash them even at point blank. Use just enough rockets to slow an advancing Leech down so they can't do as much damage, alternate between aegis and physical shield, wait out their ability then pounce. Don't get me wrong, it doesn't always work but I can get consistent results and with the nerf to PS, it's become a bit easier too. Ao Jun is the Bulwarks Achilles heel, but then again, which bot isn't against the Ao Jun? I made a recent video on the Bulwark, check it out if you like. Geeze what level are those Glaciers?
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jan 25, 2020 17:30:56 GMT -5
I'm in Champions League 5. Run a maxed Bulwark with Glaciers. Used to run Avengers but the Glaciers are so much better against Phantoms and Leech since they love to get up close and personal to do their damage and the rockets will splash them even at point blank. Use just enough rockets to slow an advancing Leech down so they can't do as much damage, alternate between aegis and physical shield, wait out their ability then pounce. Don't get me wrong, it doesn't always work but I can get consistent results and with the nerf to PS, it's become a bit easier too. Ao Jun is the Bulwarks Achilles heel, but then again, which bot isn't against the Ao Jun? I made a recent video on the Bulwark, check it out if you like. Geeze what level are those Glaciers? 1 is Mk2 lvl 11, the other is Mk2 lvl 5 Dishes out over 300k damage in 4 seconds.
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Post by The VVatcher on Jan 25, 2020 17:57:56 GMT -5
I'm in Champions League 5. Run a maxed Bulwark with Glaciers. Used to run Avengers but the Glaciers are so much better against Phantoms and Leech since they love to get up close and personal to do their damage and the rockets will splash them even at point blank. Use just enough rockets to slow an advancing Leech down so they can't do as much damage, alternate between aegis and physical shield, wait out their ability then pounce. Don't get me wrong, it doesn't always work but I can get consistent results and with the nerf to PS, it's become a bit easier too. Ao Jun is the Bulwarks Achilles heel, but then again, which bot isn't against the Ao Jun? I made a recent video on the Bulwark, check it out if you like. That was good stuff. Thanks for this. I’ve been wanting to see it for awhile.
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Post by diddlydums on Jan 25, 2020 19:01:29 GMT -5
I just got my bulwark to mk2 12 last week and run it with 2 maxed Avengers and 3 base level fortifier modules. This tends to hold its own against most everything except the maxed Ao Jun or Leech. If the Avengers ever get nerfed I will likely switch to 2 Glaciers or 2 Dragoons. Those glaciers look to be pretty nasty. I love this bot and I would recommend at least one fortifier for it. Enjoy!
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Post by RightOn on Jan 25, 2020 21:29:34 GMT -5
Well it's tough, fairly maneuverable, has decent firepower.
If anything you just need to get used to its mechanics.
I just have tough guy and energy shield expert on it, unarguably the most important skills. Crazy electrician would be nice.
Also I have calamity's on it. Gives me more time to focus on protection. Not worried about guidance because it's a methodical bot.
Only trouble is stealth, but even an Ao Jun can't really get close, just Pursuer/Loki. If a phantom gets in my grill I'll smoke it unless he breaks lock.
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Post by snk on Jan 25, 2020 21:38:59 GMT -5
Bulwark is fine, just that Ao Jun is better.
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Jan 26, 2020 2:02:36 GMT -5
Bulwark is fine, just that Ao Jun is better. Ao Jun dishes out damage better, but it sucks at holding a position. Bulwark has its advantages on Beacon modes.
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Post by snk on Jan 26, 2020 4:08:29 GMT -5
Bulwark is fine, just that Ao Jun is better. Ao Jun dishes out damage better, but it sucks at holding a position. Bulwark has its advantages on Beacon modes. i won't say Ao Jun better than Bulwark every situation, but there are very few situation Bulwark has the advantages over Ao Jun. Bulwark doesn't has the durability to hold a beacons. 1 max Ao Jun flight = dead Bulwark, the worst... most people has at least 1 Ao Jun in Champion League. Not to mention Grory TFalcon, Leech, Titans etc. I have a max MKII Bulwark (with only 1 max Fotifier) with Max MKII Avengers or Dragoon, I will not play my Bulwark something like Holding a beacon as it die too fast and need reload. Ao Jun is very effective defense a beacon, you just need to hide behind a building, if you see a Bulwark walk to the beacon, just take a flight and the Bulwark is gone.
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Post by hicycles on Jan 26, 2020 4:30:28 GMT -5
I'm planning to ws a fenrir, and with this thread, I wanted your folks thoughts on bulwark vs fenrir. Based on stats alone, the fenrir is tankier, not including the 50% dr in assault mode. It's also faster in shield mode. I'm planning on running it as a lead hose (hopefully no nerf...) because thats what I have available, but thinking about energy shotguns down the road (which I don't have). Thoughts?
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Post by T-Town Striker on Jan 26, 2020 11:43:27 GMT -5
I'm planning to ws a fenrir, and with this thread, I wanted your folks thoughts on bulwark vs fenrir. Based on stats alone, the fenrir is tankier, not including the 50% dr in assault mode. It's also faster in shield mode. I'm planning on running it as a lead hose (hopefully no nerf...) because thats what I have available, but thinking about energy shotguns down the road (which I don't have). Thoughts? Level the Fenrir high or not at all , my first thought.
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Post by Wife is Pissed on Jan 26, 2020 11:46:19 GMT -5
I have always wanted a Bulwark, but not for $20. If they hacked it to $5, I would hop on that immediately.
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Jan 26, 2020 15:46:23 GMT -5
I'm planning to ws a fenrir, and with this thread, I wanted your folks thoughts on bulwark vs fenrir. Based on stats alone, the fenrir is tankier, not including the 50% dr in assault mode. It's also faster in shield mode. I'm planning on running it as a lead hose (hopefully no nerf...) because thats what I have available, but thinking about energy shotguns down the road (which I don't have). Thoughts? Fenrir is most definitely tankier in non-Aegis mode, especially with Nicholas Wodenson. No physical shield like Bully, but with high DR it doesn't need it. Bully has a much stronger Aegis shield than Fenrir, and of course has more firepower than Fenris in Aegis mode, but Fenrir in DR mode is tougher and hits harder. I persobally consider Bully more versatile, but if you're looking for a true Tank, Fenrir with Santa is your better choice.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jan 26, 2020 18:28:56 GMT -5
I'm planning to ws a fenrir, and with this thread, I wanted your folks thoughts on bulwark vs fenrir. Based on stats alone, the fenrir is tankier, not including the 50% dr in assault mode. It's also faster in shield mode. I'm planning on running it as a lead hose (hopefully no nerf...) because thats what I have available, but thinking about energy shotguns down the road (which I don't have). Thoughts? I have both. TBH, I would probably pick the Fenrir over the Bulwark after seeing those vids of maxed Fenrir's just being able to outlast most 1 on 1 attacks. My Fenrir is just not high enough leveled to replace the Bulwark at this point and there are other things I'd prefer to level before the Fenrir. If you get flanked by enemies in the Bulwark, it's pretty much all over but the Fenrir does not suffer this as it has the DR so it doesn't matter if you get hit from the sides or back.
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Post by hicycles on Jan 26, 2020 18:36:21 GMT -5
Thanks for the feedback all!
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