phoenix232
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Pilot name: Phoenix-232
League: Diamond
Server Region: North America
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Post by phoenix232 on Mar 17, 2017 21:14:35 GMT -5
Silver 2 v Diamond 3 Diamond 3 v Elite 1 1 Diamond + 5 Silver = 4 Diamond 2 Gold Etc.
Anyone else noticing horribly poorly matched Leagues?
If leagues are supposed to be an indicator of skill, then why mix leagues with such a large variance? As of right now, it just feels like old MM with a shiny Overlay, without any under-the-hood changes.
Thoughts?
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 17, 2017 21:23:12 GMT -5
Silver 2 v Diamond 3 Diamond 3 v Elite 1 1 Diamond + 5 Silver = 4 Diamond 2 Gold Etc. Anyone else noticing horribly poorly matched Leagues? If leagues are supposed to be an indicator of skill, then why mix leagues with such a large variance? As of right now, it just feels like old MM with a shiny Overlay, without any under-the-hood changes. Thoughts? Yep, you figured it out. Leagues don't mean anything.
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Post by NokiaSåmsung on Mar 17, 2017 21:25:52 GMT -5
Although i too am supporter of old MM, but it is history.
Yes there's flaw but there's really not much point to dwell too much on it.
I just play, with total disregard to league.
Anyway, stupid players upset me more than the system as it is now.
But then again, I sometimes can be a stupid player too.
So what is my opinion? None probably lol
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Post by boomsplat on Mar 17, 2017 21:28:09 GMT -5
I hate the impact on squad play - taking an Expert squad of 6 into the MM seems to almost guarantee a Master or Champion league opponent.
Solo play is what it is...
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 18, 2017 0:21:18 GMT -5
I think we should all tank. Everyone and show pix they are stupid idiots who nerf hangars to make us mad about losing. They want us desperate and pissed about losing so we spend real money.
1) tank every match 2) don't buy anything ever
Do both until they give a fair and balanced game. And don't tell me it's balanced when all the hangars are griffs with oaks/crv's/tulumbas or TT fury's/TT carnages/zues carnages.
That is meta build now, and they did it on purpose to make everyone want it and spend real money to get it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 1:23:27 GMT -5
griffs with oaks/crv's/tulumbas spend real money to get it. huh? Complaining about griffs when you run 3 gold bots?
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 18, 2017 1:44:35 GMT -5
griffs with oaks/crv's/tulumbas spend real money to get it. huh? Complaining about griffs when you run 3 gold bots? Maybe you should ask yourself, hey if i had all that work into gold bots and wsp weps what would cause me to complain? Oh, the answer, that griffs can 2 shot my lvl10 gold bots. Griffs are cheap and missiles op vs. my gold bots and blow the crap out of them. No reason to be unhappy about that eh? It's like you bought a Porsche and you get spanked by every mustang on the road. Why did i buy the Porsche? Oh yeah, at the time it was better but then the auto gods came in a nerfed my Porsche because i already bought it and they want me to spend money on a new car. SO they broke my old car by making it obsolete. Nah, no reason to be poker about that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 1:48:10 GMT -5
Weird, I run a lvl 9 galahad, mag/ork and don't seem to have so many problems with griffs / missiles. Use cover, flank, time the attack etc.
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 18, 2017 1:50:48 GMT -5
Weird, I run a lvl 9 galahad, mag/ork and don't seem to have so many problems with griffs / missiles. Use cover, flank, time the attack etc. Oh, thanks for that advice. I'm sure my problems with griffs and missiles are over now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 1:51:34 GMT -5
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Post by cheap on Mar 18, 2017 2:29:38 GMT -5
same here getting diamond league opponents just about every match an going in 1 or 2 short on every team iam on. iam silver league
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Post by agentfilthy on Mar 18, 2017 7:42:14 GMT -5
What could go wrong with a system that forces you to move up until you're outclassed with no way to go back down? Surely that won't lead to tanking. That won't aggravate people that have time and money invested in a now useless hangar. Surely everyone will keep playing and losing for the benefit of the members of their "team".
Every time I see a Pixonic rep say they changed the game because "others were gaming the system" or it wasn't "fair" I laugh. Sure...you couldn't possibly just change the hangar strength metric or player level to protect the noobs. Nope. The whole game has to be reworked. Don't worry that you can't try out different bots and weapons anymore. We don't need variety. Don't worry that every game has become a slog of seeing the exact same bots and configurations. They did it for our enjoyment. Not because they want to place as many people as possible into a position where they're forced to give Pix money to continue playing. Surely not.
Stop the revenue stream. Vote with your dollars people. It's the only thing companies like Pixonic understand.
AF
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Post by googleme on Mar 18, 2017 7:47:30 GMT -5
We are missmatched and now the league will take points away when you loose. Of course players in higher leagues will out damage you and you are left with less pionts. You may have played great but lost and loose points. How is this more fair than before?
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Mar 18, 2017 8:51:10 GMT -5
Silver 2 v Diamond 3 Diamond 3 v Elite 1 1 Diamond + 5 Silver = 4 Diamond 2 Gold Etc. Anyone else noticing horribly poorly matched Leagues? If leagues are supposed to be an indicator of skill, then why mix leagues with such a large variance? As of right now, it just feels like old MM with a shiny Overlay, without any under-the-hood changes. Thoughts? Since the moment that the League system was proposed and the symbols showed up I insisted that any 'new' system would just ge the existing system with a fancy symbol and it really seems that way to me. i still think if you are playing above your league (such as you have given exampkes of) then your awards and losses shouldnt be equal to pilots of that league! If you are a GOLD LEAGUE pilot kicking butt (or getting your hutt kicked) in the EXPERT LEAGUE then you deserve your points to reflect that!!!
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Post by Шɑɡɡɪή on Mar 18, 2017 8:53:32 GMT -5
What could go wrong with a system that forces you to move up until you're outclassed with no way to go back down? Don't worry that every game has become a slog of seeing the exact same bots and configurations. Stop the revenue stream. Vote with your dollars people. It's the only thing companies like Pixonic understand. AF . And there you have it. I started playing only last December and I liked the game a lot. So I spent 40 something dollars over the next few months viewing that as a way to help keep a fun game going. Now ...... pffft, no more cash from me. Most of the games I've been playing the last several days are ridiculous with the match-ups. BTW, I never tank or ditch or whatever. I play whatever boards they give me. I placed a priority on getting a 5th slot and my hangar is all mid powered robots ...... a Griiffin, a Golem, a Vityaz (won in Chinese New Year game), a Destrier, and a Cossack. Now it seems like the majority of the time I'm getting hammered from the other side of the board by Furys with what ever high powered rockets or artillery they can hang on it. On some boards you can hardly move without losing half your strength. So yeah, I agree. Why would I spend any more money for the pleasure of that ? .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 8:55:51 GMT -5
We are missmatched and now the league will take points away when you loose. Of course players in higher leagues will out damage you and you are left with less pionts. You may have played great but lost and loose points. How is this more fair than before? Because, rather than being the best of the losers and moving up, you'll now lose points and meet people you can beat in subsequent matches.
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Post by zeus on Mar 19, 2017 1:26:38 GMT -5
The MM is actually self aware and likes to watch the world burn.
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Post by googleme on Mar 19, 2017 1:31:33 GMT -5
We are missmatched and now the league will take points away when you loose. Of course players in higher leagues will out damage you and you are left with less pionts. You may have played great but lost and loose points. How is this more fair than before? Because, rather than being the best of the losers and moving up, you'll now lose points and meet people you can beat in subsequent matches. Yes, in theory but that is not the way the game is working. We are not matched against equals in leagues or by hanger strength. You most often you will see a mix of opponents either above and below your level. Sometimes you are the stronest or the weakest or in the middle. That will be a huge factor in your winning, loosing, and damage given. Way more than your game play. Tankers often have a much larger impact on a specific game than the best player. As individual players we overvalue our impat on the game. If we do well that is what we should have done and if the MM is correct we should have little impact on thr outcome of the game, win 50% of the time. Tankers or bad mix of players change the dynamic competely and you are stuck on a team that was destined to loose no matter how well you play. As the best player on the loosing side you should receive more rewards than a bad player from the winning team. The bad players on the winning side often have very little impact on the outcome of the game. There are other rewards for winning.
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Post by mechtout on Mar 19, 2017 7:00:56 GMT -5
Ya the whole leagues fix was bs. But its not going anywhere, so you gotta change your approach and assume youll face maxed players. Play your best bots, use lots of orkans, and hug those walls like no tomorrow lol
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Post by mechtout on Mar 19, 2017 7:04:17 GMT -5
huh? Complaining about griffs when you run 3 gold bots? Maybe you should ask yourself, hey if i had all that work into gold bots and wsp weps what would cause me to complain? Oh, the answer, that griffs can 2 shot my lvl10 gold bots. Griffs are cheap and missiles op vs. my gold bots and blow the crap out of them. No reason to be unhappy about that eh? It's like you bought a Porsche and you get spanked by every mustang on the road. Why did i buy the Porsche? Oh yeah, at the time it was better but then the auto gods came in a nerfed my Porsche because i already bought it and they want me to spend money on a new car. SO they broke my old car by making it obsolete. Nah, no reason to be poker about that. Stop using that galahad's shield so much, its slowing you down. You need to be nimble when facing orkans
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 19, 2017 12:51:47 GMT -5
What what should I use? The only other bots I have is a lvl 8 weaksauce rhino who Melts like American cheese in a microwave and a lvl 4 carnage, which I'm trying to level but it takes forever.
You go to a match with the Hangar you have, not the hangar you wish you had.
If you are saying, outrun the direct and splash damage with by dropping my shield, that's just funny. Galahad is too slow even with shield down.
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Post by mechtout on Mar 19, 2017 13:03:16 GMT -5
What what should I use? The only other bots I have is a lvl 8 weaksauce rhino who Melts like American cheese in a microwave and a lvl 4 carnage, which I'm trying to level but it takes forever. You go to a match with the Hangar you have, not the hangar you wish you had. If you are saying, outrun the direct and splash damage with by dropping my shield, that's just funny. Galahad is too slow even with shield down. your level 10 galahad will initially take on some damage from backpedaling but you will eventually outrun the rest of the salvo, get that shield down.
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 19, 2017 13:04:46 GMT -5
I'll try that.
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