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Post by Adazahi on Jan 28, 2020 17:55:03 GMT -5
Released my vid about this, if anyone tries this strat tell me how it goes!
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Post by Estoplast on Jan 29, 2020 5:44:08 GMT -5
My classic white dragon and spectre do ok against mings. They are kinda maxed and thermonuked tho.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 29, 2020 11:26:03 GMT -5
Molot-T report: As many have suspected, yep, they work. As a minimum they are a concern for the AM. It forces them to land behind cover and heal up. But like Ogre already stated, Lockdown Ammo may be a real help because it doesn't take all that long for the AM to go from 800m to 600m. (Glass cannon build = Leech, 4 x Mk2-12, 2 x Nuclear, Adrian, Survivor skill, Shotgrouping skill.) I'll continue to report results. For the cost I think Punisher-Ts and Molot-Ts are a little underappreciated, especially in a glass cannon build.
Next up: Ballistas. I have four almost maxed. What little I've used them, they are kinda hard to hit with. Not much of a brawling weapon, but may be fun for AM.
QUESTIONS: -- When one leeches a small bot, and a Titan shoots you, what happens to the damage the Titan inflicts on you? Does any of it go to the small bot? -- Does an Ares purple shield stop all Titan weapons? -- Does a maxed Titan weapon have any weakness? Does an Aegis shield work? (Fenrir/Tempest/Molot-T might be a fun anti-aircraft build.) :-) -- Leveled Alpha weapons penetrate DR/DM, do leveled Beta weapons penetrate as well?
Peace out, Ollie
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 29, 2020 11:34:51 GMT -5
Molot-T report: As many have suspected, yep, they work. As a minimum they are a concern for the AM. It forces them to land behind cover and heal up. But like Ogre already stated, Lockdown Ammo may be a real help because it doesn't take all that long for the AM to go from 800m to 600m. (Glass cannon build = Leech, 4 x Mk2-12, 2 x Nuclear, Adrian, Survivor skill, Shotgrouping skill.) I'll continue to report results. For the cost I think Punisher-Ts and Molot-Ts are a little underappreciated, especially in a glass cannon build. Next up: Ballistas. I have four almost maxed. What little I've used them, they are kinda hard to hit with. Not much of a brawling weapon, but may be fun for AM. QUESTIONS: -- When one leeches a small bot, and a Titan shoots you, what happens to the damage the Titan inflicts on you? Does any of it go to the small bot? I believe it is the normal amount that would get sent to the other bot as if it were not a titan shooting at you, but a normal bot... IDK why it would be different? Am I misunderstanding the question?-- Does an Ares purple shield stop all Titan weapons? Yes-- Does a maxed Titan weapon have any weakness? Does an Aegis shield work? (Fenrir/Tempest/Molot-T might be a fun anti-aircraft build.) :-) Yes but it won't take long to drain against high level Titan weapons.-- Leveled Alpha weapons penetrate DR/DM, do leveled Beta weapons penetrate as well? Yes... they all have DR Mitigation, if I am not mistaken, and Kid has built-in DR Mitigation if you upgrade the right part.Peace out, Ollie Answers in red.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 29, 2020 12:03:27 GMT -5
^^^^ LOL, ugh, I asked for GOOD NEWS! ^^^
OK, thanks. As for question #1, there are rumors that the leech beam is less effective when redirecting leveled Titan damage.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 29, 2020 12:04:36 GMT -5
^^^^ LOL, ugh, I asked for GOOD NEWS! ^^^ OK, thanks. As for question #1, there are rumors that the leech beam is less effective when redirecting leveled Titan damage. I had not heard that... would be interesting to get a confirmation.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 30, 2020 11:23:11 GMT -5
More Molot-T reporting brought to you by "Big Al's Discount Weapon Emporium. Your home for "If you ain't got the silver, come on down and SAVE! SAVE! SAVE!"
Anyway...
Leech with two nuclear damage modules and Last Stand seem to be the balance. I tried 3 nukes and it left me a little "subject to premature death."
In a good squad, fun. F.U.N. I think some reds are saying, "Who's schwacking me and from... 750m!! Sunofa! I better hide! I can barely see the guy!
I still haven't gotten off the PS crutch and am not using Lockdown Ammo. Gotta try it.
I saw a nice Tempest thread today.
The Molot Ts are also nice because:
Cheap all around There's four of 'em on a Leech for 800m of luvin'. With shot grouping all your shots might hit a Gas Bag. However it leaves you exposed for a full clip's duration. Ballistas? I think many people poo-poo Molot Ts and Punisher Ts because the last time they looked at them was in the pre-Pilot, pre-modules days.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jan 31, 2020 14:13:35 GMT -5
Leech/Molot T intel video:
He's running: Leech PS 2 x Nuclear Reactor damage modules for + 20% total Legendary Pilot Basil LaPlatte + 7.5% damage at 800m+ weapons Speedshooter skill Sharpshooter skill Motot T +2.5% damage skill Health regen skill Health +15% skill Active module recharge 25% faster skill
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Post by 7Chandrian on Jan 31, 2020 19:33:12 GMT -5
Does anyone run or have a leveled bulwark? I wonder how its shield holds up w maxed fortifiers against the beast? Sadly I don't think its two heavies are make it worth the investment, but still I'm curious. 6MK2 Bulwark with 12MK2 avengers is my go to Titan Slayer, one level 2 fortifier and the thing can take a beating on the shield, get extra shielding using cover vs AM particularly, then you can throw down a lot of lead and Titans eat most every bullet even without sharpshooter. Against maxed Ao Ming, you're still gonna need help, but Bulwark eats lower level AM, any Kid, and if Arthur beats it, his shield is toast. You can't afford to NOT have at least a couple of maxed avengers.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Feb 1, 2020 8:09:09 GMT -5
Ok, I did some testing with a clan mate on a custom game so we could concentrate on the task at hand. He has a level 20 AM, far from maxed but not unleveled either. :
The maxed Ballistas were underwhelming. They do hit and I suppose if you had good cover and plenty of support around you they might be effective. The 1100 range is nice but it’s rare you’ll need that kind of range.
The maxed Molot Ts definitely put in some damage. At around 400 yards a full clip chunked off around 40% of the AM health. Real world last night at Yamantau I was pissing off an AM from around 605m. Hehe. He was shooting at me but his bullets were evaporating just in front of my nose. Molot Ts are also better at brawling. These aren’t Storm/Coronas but I think they’re fun so I’m likely to leave them in my hangar.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Feb 10, 2020 23:15:36 GMT -5
Loki takes beacon near an Ao Ming, ejects into gunship Arthur and shreds the Ming to bits
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Feb 13, 2020 11:16:57 GMT -5
So, against the BEER clan last night at Castle. We spawned with the infamous Bridge to our left. For my 3rd bot I got my Leech/Molot T build out. It was my third bot and there was at least 1 AM in the sky at the time.
I had a lot of quality time in the back center putting the lead hoses into first one then 2 AMs. Maybe 4 minutes worth. They were often in the juicy 700m range. I'd say I did around 1.2 mil damage on the AMs alone. There was a lower level Arthur that got some luvin' too. He got the whole clip and died.
I told you all that so I could tell you this: It didn't really swing the battle. *poop* I was like that hero-guy in the last Matrix movie. Guns blazing hot, the rookies bringing me ammo, the sky thick with squiddies…
I'm still gonna run this build because it is fun, but, with a minimum of whining I did in fact build an AM-counter and it's not mega-effective. We all know that Behemoth/Tempest will only last so long and then it'll get roasted by an Ao Jun.
<sarcasm> Pix has been so pro-active in balancing the game. </sarcasm> UNLESS you paid really big money then it's OK for you to be wholly OP against every small bot ever developed.
My Kid is still completely unlevelled. I'm sweating it out until the next round of Titans come out. Pix being Pix, the next round will include some sort of AM counter.
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Post by naagloshii on Feb 16, 2020 17:29:14 GMT -5
Would it be worth it at all to level 4 molot-t from scratch (level 1-3 mostly) to use as a Ming killer? I could put on a leech I have sitting collecting dust. I think I might want a hangar with a few ranged Ming killers
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Feb 16, 2020 23:08:39 GMT -5
I have found my dragoon strider and pulsar nemesis to be exceptional at killing ao mings (or rather hurting them until they run). Nemesis is easy, staying within 500m is preferable but 600m is fine, then you just play peek-a-boo using your shield to survive.
Then there is the strider, much more tricky. You have to sit in cover and watch the ao ming closely, wait until they look at your teammates and then step out and fire at them. The second they even START to turn their head DASH. You need to make sure you get back into cover with the first dash.
My other bots can deal a good amount of damage to ao mings but they are more situational. Anyway, happy hunting to all!
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Post by shivaswrath on Feb 16, 2020 23:38:46 GMT -5
Yeah my Behemoth Tempest with Dragoons ain't cutting it.
It's either Hussar/Marquees combo on A raven, quad Pulsar combo on a Spectre, or a Dragoon Combo on Inquisitor.
All of them are useless for any other combat so essentially were 「fluffernutter」ed.
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Post by Estoplast on Feb 17, 2020 6:35:47 GMT -5
Yeah my Behemoth Tempest with Dragoons ain't cutting it. It's either Hussar/Marquees combo on A raven, quad Pulsar combo on a Spectre, or a Dragoon Combo on Inquisitor. All of them are useless for any other combat so essentially were ?fluffernutter?ed. Is it pimped and maxed to little pieces? My clanmate reports somewhat ok results with pimped Tempest fury... All this is ofc for solo play.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Feb 21, 2020 12:29:31 GMT -5
This youtube by Adrian:
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Feb 21, 2020 14:23:49 GMT -5
The above is a really good stream; he likes both Molots and Punishers. He uses DM with Glaciers with good effect. He confirms a lot of what @ogre has said. Especially dropping a Arthur near an AM.
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Post by orionpax on Feb 21, 2020 21:41:38 GMT -5
While I always love and appreciate your insight and positivity I feel like I have to say one thing!
No one goes on social media and says Plasma Am are lame because they are getting their 「bum-bum」 kicked!
They call them trash because they kill whatever they have in 3 shots! Itâs not range thatâs a problem, itâs the power of the weapons! This isnât a new concept.
Itâs done on purpose!!!!!!
Now Iâll follow the advice in this thread because we have no choice. But players are over it because the jig is up!
Thanks and happy hunting!
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Feb 22, 2020 10:08:40 GMT -5
Well, I had my negative rant a couple of weeks ago. I still like this game and don’t want to quit so this thread that Ogre has started is about spraying a little perfume on the turd, ya know?
And I like putting the screws to a $1500 bot with a $200 bot. :-)
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Post by RightOn on Feb 22, 2020 18:55:41 GMT -5
Molot-T spectres and leeches or Tempest Behemoth. ?fake pee place? Lockdown Ammo for ?dookie?s and giggles. The little ones could kite more too...but that tempest cycle is absurd. May finish it in one clip.
Tempest #2 nearly complete... Wheee!
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Post by Grrrega on Feb 23, 2020 3:32:24 GMT -5
Does anyone run or have a leveled bulwark? I wonder how its shield holds up w maxed fortifiers against the beast? Sadly I don't think its two heavies are make it worth the investment, but still I'm curious. 6MK2 Bulwark with 12MK2 avengers is my go to Titan Slayer, one level 2 fortifier and the thing can take a beating on the shield, get extra shielding using cover vs AM particularly, then you can throw down a lot of lead and Titans eat most every bullet even without sharpshooter. Against maxed Ao Ming, you're still gonna need help, but Bulwark eats lower level AM, any Kid, and if Arthur beats it, his shield is toast. You can't afford to NOT have at least a couple of maxed avengers. I have Avenger Bully with 3 fortifiers and both shield enhancing pilot skills. This amounts to: 239'925 Aegis 404'200 Physical shield One on one it does great against plasma Ao Ming, it will take forever to chew thru both of that (and Aegis regenerates meanwhile). The other reds make things more complicated. My personal favourite is a pimped glacier Ao Jun with Alika. Can take half of Ao Ming in one flight. Of course a smart AM player will make it hard for you to get close or to get in cover after the flight.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Mar 2, 2020 13:22:01 GMT -5
Full disclosure, I have stock in Russki Teschnicum Militariski (the company that makes Molot Ts.) biancabashbotsMore Molot T vids from Adrian Chong (Dated 3/2/20):
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Post by TerminatorWR on Mar 2, 2020 17:34:27 GMT -5
Nightingale is a very good support bot against plasma Ao Ming.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Mar 3, 2020 10:27:43 GMT -5
First, constructive thoughts: Your team, if on Discord need to consider a coordinated "Attack on Titan" umm sorry I mean attack on a particular Titan especially an AM. Two half health French AMs are still two very dangerous bots.
Digression follows:
Had a rough night against AM last night, yeah it was against well-funded clans but it REALLY just feels like they are saying, " *Yawn*, I can't wait to get killed a few times so I can get out my maxed AM and get this over with."
I used to whale-it-up (kinda by mistake), but man do I feel bad for the F2P folks. I wonder how Pix's numbers are doing. I find it very hard to believe that the player base is increasing after the release of the French weapons and their dirty F'd-up tricks. Revenue may be up but people play this game to win, not to get beat down horribly. It seems like there will be whales and nobody else left in the player base.
I still like the game and I've probably got another year in me but if Pix can't introduce a semblance of play balance back into the game I'll have to bow out.
"But, comrade, this French AM won't be play balanced!" "Yes, but think of the money we'll make!"
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Post by blackheart on Mar 3, 2020 12:20:06 GMT -5
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Mar 3, 2020 12:34:00 GMT -5
Released my vid about this, if anyone tries this strat tell me how it goes!
I finally got off my behindus and watched your vid, thanks. It seems that your plan is totally viable, but, maybe that's only for TDM because in the beacon games I'm in there's way too much fog (or Arthur fart gas) of war to commit 6 bots to one part of the map. You are right Discord would be critical for this kind of team play.
What feedback have you had so far?
Thanks again, Ollie
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Post by Blurred Vision on Mar 3, 2020 15:36:48 GMT -5
An effective counter for the Plasma AM that doesn't involve specific bots or weapons: Discord and Death Mark. With DM and communication -- clear, coordinated, action plans -- AM will fall like a bag of dirt, go down like a cheap 「strong independent woman who don't need no man」. This obviously only works when squadding and on comms; I know it's kinda useless running solo. In that case, plasma-bearing Arthur is your friend.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Mar 4, 2020 12:49:58 GMT -5
Adrian's video:
His summary, "Use Leech/Molots; far more effective."
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Post by blackheart on Mar 5, 2020 6:26:41 GMT -5
i was thinking would a maxed ecu work ? like shoot shoot block repeat. will the ecu get destroyed in a single hit ?
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