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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 12:24:47 GMT -5
Now Pix wants to force us to take part in the extremely boring 'task' of throwing a salvo of Tridents every 12 seconds. Calling BS here. Why would they want to force players into playing with Tridents? Long rang maps = Trident throwing fests. Unless you don't have them. So you use Tulumbas and Pins. |
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Post by ou812gr8m8 on Mar 16, 2017 12:28:53 GMT -5
Now Pix wants to force us to take part in the extremely boring 'task' of throwing a salvo of Tridents every 12 seconds. Calling BS here. Why would they want to force players into playing with Tridents? I think he's saying that's what he feels compelled to do on specific maps. |
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Post by Шɑɡɡɪή on Mar 16, 2017 13:15:10 GMT -5
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Why doesn't PIX just announce what the heck they're doing instead of creating weird conundrums for players to speculate about ? I've lost track of weird player scenarios for the last few days. One game this morning had us at 4 players and the reds at 6. Also, several times between yesterday and today my bot has dropped in and when the countdown hits zero I start moving but the clock already burned off 30 or 40 seconds ?!? Pretty annoying when you're trying to get 18 beacons for one of your tasks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 13:52:49 GMT -5
Шɑɡɡɪή what you stated in your previous post in this thread is the most important point of all of this discussion. Where was the notification. Again they drive the users wild trying to figure out what is going on. We are the customers, not the company. Again they missed the boat. Very sad on their part. How hard it is to post just a notice on Facebook or an announcement here on the unofficial forum, but recognized by them. I'm sure the moderators would have been more than happy to do this. I can't even hear the crickets in the background on this one.
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Mar 16, 2017 14:31:16 GMT -5
Pix last statement:
Some people are abusing the matchmaking system by intentionally dropping matches to reach lower leagues and get less experienced opponents.
- We are introducing the system which will restrict such behaviour without hurting usual players.
- We’re totally okay if you disconnect occasionally (!) due to your network provider issues, urgent matters in real life or simply don’t like the map you got spawned on. If you don’t drop matches systematically, you have nothing to worry about.
- However, if you are leaving too many battles, there is a chance you'll be moved into a separate matchmaking queue where you’ll play only with similarly behaving people.
- No direct penalties, but chronic "leavers" will be playing with other "leavers" until they clear their “karma”, so they won’t be bothering players that like to fully commit to the game."
They said if you skip maps you would not be placed in to the tanker league. They said nothing about keeping all your average damage/win rate scores and stats by match skipping. If you want to play the league system on your desired terms (map skipping Etc.) Don't expect to keep your stats and league scores (you are skipping the games for God sake! In any league you loose standing). The rest of us who don't leave games and play every game to the max need not be competing for league positions with people who selectively play when the right planet alignments take place and your mood is chipper. How long would you be on an any sports team if there were 3 arenas you hated to play at and 5 guys on the team you refuse to play with ?
Game skipping has consequences...Pix notified the entire community quite clearly they were moving on this issue.
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Post by nocluevok on Mar 16, 2017 14:38:26 GMT -5
Pix last statement: Some people are abusing the matchmaking system by intentionally dropping matches to reach lower leagues and get less experienced opponents.
- We are introducing the system which will restrict such behaviour without hurting usual players.
- We’re totally okay if you disconnect occasionally (!) due to your network provider issues, urgent matters in real life or simply don’t like the map you got spawned on. If you don’t drop matches systematically, you have nothing to worry about.
- However, if you are leaving too many battles, there is a chance you'll be moved into a separate matchmaking queue where you’ll play only with similarly behaving people.
- No direct penalties, but chronic "leavers" will be playing with other "leavers" until they clear their “karma”, so they won’t be bothering players that like to fully commit to the game."
They said if you skip maps you would not be placed in to the tanker league. They said nothing about keeping all your average damage/win rate scores and stats by match skipping. If you want to play the league system on your desired terms (map skipping Etc.) Don't expect to keep your stats and league scores (you are skipping the games for God sake! In any league you loose standing). The rest of us who don't leave games and play every game to the max need not be competing for league positions with people who selectively play when the right planet alignments take place and your mood is chipper. How long would you be on an any sports team if there were 3 arenas you hated to play at and 5 guys on the team you refuse to play with ? Game skipping has consequences...Pix notified the entire community quite clearly they were moving on this issue. Can I get an, Amen!? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 15:12:54 GMT -5
Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ I get what you are saying with that post. I still think it would have been nice if they put up something up on the day it went into effect and a final explanation of how it would work and affect players. Looking at it from a business point of view. For me it didn't make a dime of difference since I play every map and always try to blow up all the red bots and get all the beacons. Hoping someday that actually happens. Yeah, right.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Mar 16, 2017 16:25:46 GMT -5
Using the football analogy is not a good one. the game is the same regardless of stadium. the playing field is the same size. Let use the analogy of war instead. when you send troops into fight, they know what the environment is and are prepared for that environment only. solders fighting in the desert dont carry cold weather gear. with only 5 slots your limited in what you can carry and being spected for the right map can make or break a game. If you like to play every map, thats fine. But to force others to do so is only going to hurt the game in the end. Your right, changing the game has consequences. and when people finally get sick of being forced to play a particular league and all maps, Pixonics had beeter fully expect many people to quit the game at worst, or play a lot less at best.
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Mar 16, 2017 16:50:29 GMT -5
There is nothing wrong with my analogies, they convey the point well enough. Pix is not forcing anyone to play any map...The fact that ones stats will reflect their actions is all that is happening here. Leave all the games you want...Just don't expect to keep league standing and impressive stats, that's all. If a person wants to play the game like a recreational league or flip thorough games like channel surfing then expect to be relegated to such levels.
What might hurt the game is fine, what is hurting the game are people flaking out of games with the leave button. That's tangible and measurable. No tarot card readings needed.
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Post by igraun on Mar 16, 2017 17:02:31 GMT -5
Some clan mates speculate that one way the MM forces players down to 50% is to give them Springfield and lousy teammates more often when their win rate gets above 60%. I haven't checked this statistically (it did sometimes seem like I'd get it 4+ times in a row), but this would only work if they stopped folks from skipping maps. It could be my imagination , but I swear this is what happens to me . |
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Mar 16, 2017 18:31:31 GMT -5
Some clan mates speculate that one way the MM forces players down to 50% is to give them Springfield and lousy teammates more often when their win rate gets above 60%. I haven't checked this statistically (it did sometimes seem like I'd get it 4+ times in a row), but this would only work if they stopped folks from skipping maps. It could be my imagination , but I swear this is what happens to me . I will try to test that for you! Running hot today with 8 straight wins & War Robots up to 66%. With the new MM / tiers etc... I dont remember breaking into the 70's, use to run 70s-80s. I would not blame SF as my achilles heel, but something usually happens that beats me way back down into the 40s!! |
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Post by ΜØØSE on Mar 16, 2017 19:01:48 GMT -5
Calling BS here. Why would they want to force players into playing with Tridents? Long rang maps = Trident throwing fests. Unless you don't have them. So you use Tulumbas and Pins. I get that, but how does Pixonic benefit from having everyone use midrange weapons? I don't understand why you are saying they want to do that. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 19:05:24 GMT -5
Long rang maps = Trident throwing fests. Unless you don't have them. So you use Tulumbas and Pins. I get that, but how does Pixonic benefit from having everyone use midrange weapons? I don't understand why you are saying they want to do that. Furies. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 19:05:30 GMT -5
The fracking filter doesn't seem to check for whole words. I saw Boo-Boo Kitty's name get censored here because of the first four letters! I remember a news report, several years ago, where S?total babe?horpe council installed a new filter and were mightily surprised when the received no email for a few days. It appears this one is the same. |
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Post by ΜØØSE on Mar 16, 2017 19:08:26 GMT -5
I get that, but how does Pixonic benefit from having everyone use midrange weapons? I don't understand why you are saying they want to do that. Furies. Natashas, Carnages |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 19:09:15 GMT -5
</div>Napoleon would disagree. Russia and snow, it's just snow. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 19:09:39 GMT -5
Who uses that stuff? Definitely not as effective as the Fury. |
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Post by tagnal on Mar 16, 2017 19:21:09 GMT -5
Carnages have become surprisingly prolific in Diamond/Elite ever since the shield buff...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 19:22:54 GMT -5
Carnages have become surprisingly prolific in Diamond/Elite ever since the shield buff... Only the Zeus and Thunder version. |
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Post by tagnal on Mar 16, 2017 19:27:58 GMT -5
I see plenty of Trident Carnages as well. Seems pretty evenly split to me. But, I never really tried to keep a tally.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Mar 16, 2017 19:30:41 GMT -5
I refuse to play all the maps and will not care about my stats anymore, if we get penalized for skipping maps. I don't know about you guys, but my definition of fun isn't sitting in a Trident Fury for 10 minutes. Pix already took away our ability to play lights and mediums with success and forced us to play Griffins, Furies, Carnages, Rhinos, Galahads and Lancelots. Now Pix wants to force us to take part in the extremely boring 'task' of throwing a salvo of Tridents every 12 seconds. I wonder what crap Pix will give us next... I'm puzzled here. Here's you:  Here's me:  We are both in Gold I on iOS. And damn close to each other in league points. Our win percentages are both 70%. Since your average damage is about twice mine, I get the feeling you already don't care too much about your stats. I don't skip any maps and there's a distinct lack of Trident Fury in my lineup. What are you really trying to say? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 19:55:27 GMT -5
Because the game meta in Gold 1 is not a Trident Contest. It's a tanking contest of who can hold center the longest. I do skip maps regularly (Dead City, Yamateau and sometimes maps where Pix gives me 3 other teammates). That Fury was from a clan battle (Expert 3). Usually put a Zeus Carnage there.
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Post by ΜØØSE on Mar 16, 2017 22:26:38 GMT -5
I refuse to play all the maps and will not care about my stats anymore, if we get penalized for skipping maps. I don't know about you guys, but my definition of fun isn't sitting in a Trident Fury for 10 minutes. Pix already took away our ability to play lights and mediums with success and forced us to play Griffins, Furies, Carnages, Rhinos, Galahads and Lancelots. Now Pix wants to force us to take part in the extremely boring 'task' of throwing a salvo of Tridents every 12 seconds. I wonder what crap Pix will give us next... I'm puzzled here. Here's you: Here's me: We are both in Gold I on iOS. And damn close to each other in league points. Our win percentages are both 70%. Since your average damage is about twice mine, I get the feeling you already don't care too much about your stats. I don't skip any maps and there's a distinct lack of Trident Fury in my lineup. What are you really trying to say? B-B-B-BUT PIXONIC MADE HIM HAVE THAT LINEUP |
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Post by flounder on Mar 16, 2017 23:33:49 GMT -5
There is nothing wrong with my analogies, they convey the point well enough. Pix is not forcing anyone to play any map...The fact that ones stats will reflect their actions is all that is happening here. Leave all the games you want...Just don't expect to keep league standing and impressive stats, that's all. If a person wants to play the game like a recreational league or flip thorough games like channel surfing then expect to be relegated to such levels. What might hurt the game is fine, what is hurting the game are people flaking out of games with the leave button. That's tangible and measurable. No tarot card readings needed. Myth busted. I checked my cups, I was at 1911 and in the challenge stage with 4 battles left. I hit the battle button and got 3 long range maps in a row that I don't play so I leave as soon as I see the map. I went back and checked my cups, 1911 and 4 battles left in my challenge. No penalty for skipping a map. And the players on those maps are better off without a thunder boa that can't get close enough to anything to do any damage. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 23:34:07 GMT -5
Just wondering. Has anybody seen an iOS platform player post one of these? I have not seen it on iOS today. I have on Android though.
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Post by zr on Mar 16, 2017 23:45:58 GMT -5
I skipped about 4 maps on Android, before the drop lost 20 cups.
Someone else posted somewhere about if your unlucky and the game has started and you get pulled in as a replacement even if you don't drop in you
still get the -20 cups. If your the last replacement player.
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 17, 2017 0:03:28 GMT -5
I had a match like that tonight. Showed 2 droppers. Of course we got creamed and I got-10.
I don't think its fair that we take a - anything if our team has fewer members. If your team has 4 and the other team has 6 and creams your team you should just get 0. +3, +7. No negative because the game balance is broken and it's not your fault.
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Post by zr on Mar 17, 2017 0:08:50 GMT -5
What I,m saying is I lost 20 cups, but, I did not play a game. I was not on any battle report but my cups went down by 20
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 17, 2017 0:15:34 GMT -5
I got ya. I'll pop a new thread about it. See what others experience
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Post by amidf on Mar 17, 2017 1:04:07 GMT -5
Maybe if we had to play all the maps, the trident and treb fury players would have to put some brawlers in their hangars. They've been skipping PP and DC.
I play all the maps. I keep a midrange bot around for that reason.
I suspect you see some maps more than others because players skip those more. If there are about an equal number of games going on for every map at any given time, more players will actually see the ones that are skipped the most. The skippers get replaced.
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