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Post by Merciless Mercenary on Nov 15, 2019 13:08:56 GMT -5
(Shrug)There. You are the only one who uses AJs to cap beacons, but tell me, can you obliterate a Tradition Falcon max? An Heavy Armoured Invader? Remember, Ao Juns are powerful, but without their abilites, their lives will end quickly. I can and have many times. By myself. Mk2 avengers with boost deliver well over a million damage in just 15 sec.. Ten of which I'm in stealth and also delivering over 100k flame damage. It's no contest. Honestly the only bots I fear 1v1 in an Ao Jun are leech, phantom, and blitz. Over thousands of encounters I'm pretty sure of this.... MKII? Not bad. You got Shieldbreaker?
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Post by 乃ㄥ卂乙 on Nov 15, 2019 13:10:30 GMT -5
Ao Jun, Rog, Blitz, Gary, Raven... ? Ao Jun isn't designed to cap beacons, but to hunt down weak and defenseless, Rog can't beat the dash bots. Gareth? Can cap few and dead in seconds from Ork Spec. Raven's a good capper, but double jump will allow the enemies to wait for the bird to land, and STRIKE. Well, I guess my Ghost Rog didn't get the memo
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Nov 15, 2019 13:13:12 GMT -5
Bad example, all expect one beacon have some elevation, you can use to shoot a stealth bot without Quantum Radar, nearby. 6 Loki is a almost guaranteed loose anyway, more than one loki at a time hurts the team most times What platform and league are you playing? IOS and in Expert I. No offence, but beacon capping in Champions League is different than EL. e.g. Loki rarely gives me trouble, my Strider, Mender and esp Blitz end that lil prankster w/o needing Quantum Radar. Phantom, on the other hand, almost always gives me trouble. And Ao Jun is a great late game beacon chaser. I’ve won several games in the final seconds using Ao Jun to out-beacon the reds.
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Post by Merciless Mercenary on Nov 15, 2019 13:13:28 GMT -5
Ao Jun isn't designed to cap beacons, but to hunt down weak and defenseless, Rog can't beat the dash bots. Gareth? Can cap few and dead in seconds from Ork Spec. Raven's a good capper, but double jump will allow the enemies to wait for the bird to land, and STRIKE. Well, I guess my Ghost Rog didn't get the memo Well, your Ghost Rog MAY get beacons better than Kumiho....
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Post by reckless1 on Nov 15, 2019 13:27:10 GMT -5
I can and have many times. By myself. Mk2 avengers with boost deliver well over a million damage in just 15 sec.. Ten of which I'm in stealth and also delivering over 100k flame damage. It's no contest. Honestly the only bots I fear 1v1 in an Ao Jun are leech, phantom, and blitz. Over thousands of encounters I'm pretty sure of this.... MKII? Not bad. You got Shieldbreaker? No I try not to be a PC addict. Sitting on about 60k I think.
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Post by endyu on Nov 15, 2019 13:31:05 GMT -5
1. Phantom 2. Leech 3. Ao Jun 4. Loki 5. Hellburner 6. Strider 7. Raven 8. Falcon
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on Nov 15, 2019 13:55:42 GMT -5
What about the Fury? Don't make me laugh. A Fury can't even get the nearest beacon unless other teammates are all Raijins. What? I see Champions League's dropping this bot FIRST in Beacon Rush.
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Post by Merciless Mercenary on Nov 15, 2019 14:01:47 GMT -5
Don't make me laugh. A Fury can't even get the nearest beacon unless other teammates are all Raijins. What? I see Champions League's dropping this bot FIRST in Beacon Rush. That's his idea. Furies are slow. Fast or steady robots are excellent beacon cappers.
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on Nov 15, 2019 15:28:03 GMT -5
What? I see Champions League's dropping this bot FIRST in Beacon Rush. That's his idea. Furies are slow. Fast or steady robots are excellent beacon cappers. I don't run a Fury myself. But, I always heard they were sneaky fast.
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Post by Phycoshot on Nov 15, 2019 15:29:14 GMT -5
That's his idea. Furies are slow. Fast or steady robots are excellent beacon cappers. I don't run a Fury myself. But, I always heard they were sneaky fast. They have secret built in portal guns.
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Post by Merciless Mercenary on Nov 15, 2019 16:52:23 GMT -5
I don't run a Fury myself. But, I always heard they were sneaky fast. They have secret built in portal guns. Lmao that would be fun to use.
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Post by reconnecting on Nov 15, 2019 17:19:13 GMT -5
I have a seperate hangar for beacon capping. I use a Pursuer, Kumiho, two Hovers and a Phantom. The Phantom I switch between my two hangars as I like him a lot. The second Hover just replaced my Bulgasari for beacon capping duty, at least for now. Still levelling Hover #2. I think the next bot I build will be a Strider; I have wanted one for awhile.
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Post by josh378 on Nov 15, 2019 17:27:36 GMT -5
Here's a key with Loki since now Phantom runs the show at the beginning. He's now a endgame Beacon Capper. Because at that point, most Quantum Radar Bots are dead on the red team and most people who run Phantom or leech are now in the garbage disposal. I've won many games with my Loki. There's a reason he's a amazing Beacon Runner. It's just now he can't do it at the beginning because if you try to bring them out, Phantom will tear him apart.
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Post by reconnecting on Nov 15, 2019 17:30:41 GMT -5
Here's a key with Loki since now Phantom runs the show at the beginning. He's now a endgame Beacon Capper. Because at that point, most Quantum Radar Bots are dead on the red team and most people who run Phantom or leech are now in the garbage disposal. I've won many games with my Loki. There's a reason he's a amazing Beacon Runner. It's just now he can't do it at the beginning because if you try to bring them out, Phantom will tear him apart. Or the Pursuer. ;-)
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Post by josh378 on Nov 15, 2019 17:37:36 GMT -5
Here's a key with Loki since now Phantom runs the show at the beginning. He's now a endgame Beacon Capper. Because at that point, most Quantum Radar Bots are dead on the red team and most people who run Phantom or leech are now in the garbage disposal. I've won many games with my Loki. There's a reason he's a amazing Beacon Runner. It's just now he can't do it at the beginning because if you try to bring them out, Phantom will tear him apart. Or the Pursuer. ;-) Always run to some guy who hold back his pursuer or Blitz at the end game. I've had to max out my defense on my Loki and I surprised a lot of pursuers and Blitz. Not saying I win every fight, but you have to use trickery to outsmart the Blitz and a pursuer gets scared when I have more health/def than him. Also when you are faster than both of them, this is where you shoot them from a distance and use lockdown and run around and capping bases while stalling. You don't have to kill either one, if your goal is just to win the game. I've won quite a few times where the pursuer kept chasing me and didn't realize that I was stalling to just get a 4-5 cap Beacon.
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Post by reconnecting on Nov 15, 2019 17:42:32 GMT -5
Always run to some guy who hold back his pursuer or Blitz at the end game. I've had to max out my defense on my Loki and I surprised a lot of pursuers and Blitz. Not saying I win every fight, but you have to use trickery to outsmart the Blitz and a pursuer gets scared when I have more health/def than him. Also when you are faster than both of them, this is where you shoot them from a distance and use lockdown and run around and capping bases while stalling. You don't have to kill either one, if your goal is just to win the game. I've won quite a few times where the pursuer kept chasing me and didn't realize that I was stalling to just get a 4-5 cap Beacon. Okay, but on equal levels with good pilots and mods Pursuer does give Loki a hard time. I've seen them run away because I am hitting them with my Gusts.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 15, 2019 17:54:08 GMT -5
A few points of contention...
Ao Jun is definitely a capper. MANY games the Champs I fight against and with, use it first... To damn good effect.
Raven is also amazingly good. Dbl jump, if done right, covers a LOT of ground. DEADLY with the damage boost too... it's almost better to let a red get there first so you can have your boost on when you meet him with your shotties on the way down.
Ghost Rog can definitely kill dashes, and is amazingly fast. 2 Coronas is plenty to take on other common cappers... unless they're AJs... because yes, plenty of people use them to cap opening beacons with.
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Post by josh378 on Nov 15, 2019 17:55:51 GMT -5
Yea, on equal levels I agree, unless we talking about Rime Loki or Rime Persuer. Ran into a Loki MK2 Rime runner, tore my Phantom up. basically Stupid OP Orkans with ice effects. A few points of contention... Ao Jun is definitely a capper. MANY games the Champs I fight against and with, use it first... To damn good effect. Raven is also amazingly good. Dbl jump, if done right, covers a LOT of ground. DEADLY with the damage boost too... it's almost better to let a red get there first so you can have your boost on when you meet him with your shotties on the way down. Ghost Rog can definitely kill dashes, and is amazingly fast. 2 Coronas is plenty to take on other common cappers... unless they're AJs... because yes, plenty of people use them to cap opening beacons with. As a phantom Beacon Runner, I hate Ao Jun's at the start of the match because they're always faster flying then I am running. I need my 7.5% extra damage so when I get to the med Beacon I'll have additional damage ready to go. I don't need no stinking Ao Jun cap the starting beacon before I even get there.
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Post by mechtout on Nov 15, 2019 18:00:25 GMT -5
Blitz, ay m8. How's that going to outrun the Strider and Kumiho? Takes the beacon from them
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Post by Merciless Mercenary on Nov 15, 2019 21:50:36 GMT -5
A few points of contention... Ao Jun is definitely a capper. MANY games the Champs I fight against and with, use it first... To damn good effect. Raven is also amazingly good. Dbl jump, if done right, covers a LOT of ground. DEADLY with the damage boost too... it's almost better to let a red get there first so you can have your boost on when you meet him with your shotties on the way down. Ghost Rog can definitely kill dashes, and is amazingly fast. 2 Coronas is plenty to take on other common cappers... unless they're AJs... because yes, plenty of people use them to cap opening beacons with. (Inhales) Yes, but it takes time for AJs to set up high and start zooming around. That will give dashers time to run and git em.
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