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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2016 14:15:36 GMT -5
The just-finished Halloween event has given me some opportunities to experiment a bit. To date, my hangar consisted of a wide range of mediums of levels 1-4, along with a gep and a few assorted lights. I had picked up a Leo and a Griffon, just to try them out, but they've generally just been gathering dust in the back while the meds had all the fun.
Through some combination of pattern recognition and luck, I picked up 3 Leos from pumpkins. Along with the Leo and Griff already in my stable, that would let me run a full hangar of heavy bots. I'm just not sure if there's any point in doing this, and if there is, then what kind of weapon levels should I be aiming for in order to have decent production? I kill a lot of underarmed heavies in high bronze and low silver, so I am very much aware of matchmaker's bias against the big bots. I certainly don't want to waste Ag levelling all these big bots (other than the Griffon, which I know is has some potential), so I'd be looking at running them at their base levels with weapons anywhere from levels 1-7 depending on what might work best.
Thoughts?
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 7, 2016 14:22:26 GMT -5
The just-finished Halloween event has given me some opportunities to experiment a bit. To date, my hangar consisted of a wide range of mediums of levels 1-4, along with a gep and a few assorted lights. I had picked up a Leo and a Griffon, just to try them out, but they've generally just been gathering dust in the back while the meds had all the fun. Through some combination of pattern recognition and luck, I picked up 3 Leos from pumpkins. Along with the Leo and Griff already in my stable, that would let me run a full hangar of heavy bots. I'm just not sure if there's any point in doing this, and if there is, then what kind of weapon levels should I be aiming for in order to have decent production? I kill a lot of underarmed heavies in high bronze and low silver, so I am very much aware of matchmaker's bias against the big bots. I certainly don't want to waste Ag levelling all these big bots (other than the Griffon, which I know is has some potential), so I'd be looking at running them at their base levels with weapons anywhere from levels 1-7 depending on what might work best. Thoughts? I have great success at the 6/8 range. Hesitant to go up at all with the wins I have been getting. I think that is the upper limit of High Silver... occasionally Low Gold... Depends on the MM's mood. Mediums can be a couple of levels higher with higher weapons, and Lights, a LOT higher. Leos can be decent at that level... I wouldn't know about higher than that though. |
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Post by 〓SUPΞRBΛM〓 on Nov 7, 2016 17:46:27 GMT -5
I'm having a lot of fun with my 3x Aphid/Zeus Leo in low gold. Still upgrading the weapons, but I can do quite a bit of damage with this setup on PP and DC with everything at about 6 right now. Can't wait to see what this does in higher levels.
The Thunder works well too if you don't want to spend on the Zeus.
Jury is still out on if this is a viable high-gold setup. I'll know sometime in 2017!
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Post by Zhøu™ on Nov 7, 2016 19:28:39 GMT -5
For heavy bots, you can start by using it with level 7 weapons, not any lower.
Still, it isn't the most ideal situation, as having weapons 2 levels above bots is more desirable until your weapons hit lvl 10-11.
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Post by Curry Pot on Nov 7, 2016 21:37:57 GMT -5
Just be aware that using level 6 heavies of any type with weapons above level 5 makes you eligible to get brutally murdered in top tier matches. I tried 6/6 heavies once, having previously had a high bronze hangar, and I ended up in a match with two maxed out clans on the second game. Don't field such a hangar if you are easily frustrated and not willing to drop out mid match.
Leo isn't a bad bot and is a good choice when you can't afford anything better. Thunder pinata, Thunder mag and Trident CRV are all solid and cost effective choices. The Thunder pinata Leo is the only Ag only setup other than the RDB Griffin that has a fighting chance in gold tier and is a good choice if you are really broke. Usually Lancelots and Furies will outperform Leos, but then again not everyone has 5k gold to burn.
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Post by Ron Gaul on Nov 8, 2016 20:29:14 GMT -5
Sleeper Leo configuration is the Thunder/Pin setup. No, it's not as massively destructive as the Pinata Thunder Leo at knifer range, but in versatility the Pin setup far outweighs the Pinata config. The trio of Pins becomes the Leo's main battery at anything other than melee range, and it allows Leo to engage DB and PDB threats well before coming into the danger zone. Not to mention, the Pin is far superior against small, fast-moving targets. And it salvoes 20% more often than Pinata. Reason I prefer this setup to Trident Pin Leo is that sooner or later, somebody is going to get too close to you. At which point, if you've got a Trident as your main gun, you're cooked. The Thunder Pin Leo is ideally used to harass enemies into charging, at which point the Thunder goes to work and finishes them off at close range.
Leo is a good silver-tier ot, but so far I really haven't found a use for it in low Gold. I'd rather have Natasha's firepower as a sniper, and for brawling a Gareth or Galahad with plasma can easily take down two Leo's. Or, twin Thunders on a Carnage will obliterate anything in short order - and Carnage is much faster than Leo. Midrange, the RDB Griff is superior to Trident/Pin Leo thanks to vastly better mobility. Leo is a jack-of-all-trades, master of none. I oughtfive of em, and I still mess around with them from time to time when I'm not running my Gold hangar, but Leo is in my book a training bot to prepare you for faster, deadlier bots.
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Post by Curry Pot on Nov 8, 2016 20:53:55 GMT -5
True, but oftentimes the faster, deadlier bots (especially Lancelot and Fury) will be prohibitively expensive and are much less cost effective than the Leo, which is essentially free, while some more expensive bots might not necessarily perform any better. For example, the Carnage is faster but is also the glassiest glass cannon in the game and will go down in a few shots, while the Leo can take a serious beating and keep on fighting. I have both a Thunder Carnage and a Pinata Leo in my hangar, and I do not plan on replacing the Leo even though I can easily afford another carnage or two. The Thunder carnage is oftentimes hit or miss; sometimes you wind up dead in the first few moments of combat, other times you go on a rampage and kill lots of people. The Carnie's glassiness makes it very unforgiving to pilot, and you can easily die if you make a few minor mistakes. The Thunder Pinata Leo is a lot tougher but slower, and I really like its one-two punch of its pinatas and thunders; the pinatas usually take the target down to half health, and the thunder will finish them off quickly. I frequently face level 10+ and max hangars, and the Leo has never failed me.
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Post by Noreceipts400 on Nov 9, 2016 1:56:33 GMT -5
I've been using thunder aphids because I found that pinatas didn't quite do enough damage to my liking considering your then left in db range
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