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Post by ༒ƜƦƛƖƬӇ༒ on Oct 10, 2019 13:24:05 GMT -5
As it has been said.. I won't do anything until the last day.. then I will see what I would get for my 15 bucks.. decide then if it is worth it.. They will also do their "deals" and cut prices if very few people fall for it.. But in my clan, there are a bunch already falling for it.. so.. outside of this forum I would imagine the masses are going for it in memory of the last one ..
But.. Guppies are in every fishbowl..
Cheers..
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Post by titando on Oct 10, 2019 13:31:03 GMT -5
I purchased operation pass last time and it was well worth it. Will have to see how much I progress this time before purchasing. The grind is much more difficult and longer.
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Post by martag on Oct 10, 2019 13:40:47 GMT -5
Yes, more OXP is earned per HP this time (7% of HP) than last time (5% of HP), but this doesn't make up for the much larger OXP requirements per level. As I said above, if I play the same amount per day, get the same average HP per game and factor in the additional 12 days in this operations I will get to about level 36 this operations versus level 61 last time.
So with it harder to reach each level and more levels added this is a much, much, much steeper climb than before.
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Post by Loganspawn on Oct 10, 2019 14:08:55 GMT -5
The name of this "Operation" needs to be changed to Operation Silent Egg Fart. That is all carry on.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Oct 10, 2019 14:22:20 GMT -5
That's my gut feel at this point. Since you can retroactively get all the premium prizes I think it makes the most sense for everyone to wait on spending $ at this point. Yea, this is definitely let some whales test water first event, so we can crowdsource some data. It feels slower, I played a bit today, didn’t hit 20. I feel as if last time you and I both hit 30 in a day , iirc Yup, my playing is waaaay down. I haven’t hit 4 yet, lol. Getting all those damned 400m tasks isn’t exactly incentivizing me any either.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Oct 10, 2019 14:38:47 GMT -5
The name of this "Operation" needs to be changed to Operation Silent Egg Fart. That is all carry on. There may be better silent fart memes, but this seems most appropriate since it’s coming from Pix...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 15:51:53 GMT -5
This is GREAT! And thanks for cross-posting to Reddit. Cheers!
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Post by T34 on Oct 10, 2019 16:54:52 GMT -5
Reduced value in terms of resources and equipment (nemesis/tyr yeah right). Takes longer to obtain. Requires more grinding….. As many incl Koalabear and Rollo Tomasi mentioned earlier Pix remained greedy. Nothing changed. I reckon they are just readjusting the pricing and what you get for it in order to maximise profit while minimising in game inflation. But for those who are hooked on microtransations this will be another shiny button to press with vigour and there will be many IMO who will pay while assuming it is the same deal as was on offer last time (some in the clan bought it immediately before the discussion even started). And it appears my hope was misguided when I said some time ago that pix may be trying to broaden the monitisation base while trying to introduce more balance to the game. The value in relation to power you get out of this deal is insignificant in terms of trying to close any gaps to the whales. Get a nemesis to fight a leach or phantom. Ha ha. Unless a player is at the top, the slight power improvements due to investments make no difference in terms of outcome as the MM-er will neutralise the advantage (except for league position). If people buy this on mass the next operations season will probably be even worse. If you don’t than they will most likely improve the pay out next time. So, if you are in doubt, don’t buy it. You are likely to get more next time.
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Post by The VVatcher on Oct 10, 2019 18:38:52 GMT -5
The big thing for me is how much total oxp it takes to get to level 100. I’ll take the nerfed rewards if I can get all of it. If I end up getting 2000 au and 20 mil Ag, I will consider it a fail.
Maybe if I can get to level 80 by the 30 day mark, there is hope. I’ll go by that barometer for now.
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Post by aaronc on Oct 10, 2019 18:39:17 GMT -5
Its almost like Pix specifically tailored the rewards to put me off! Igniters - have 2 Freedom igniters from July event Nemesis - Got one already Tyr - Got one already Mercury skin - Paid for the Yaksha skin which I still like
Silver, gold. Pcs' are all useful but not in the amounts that are really worth grinding for.
I'd have liked the sinister Pulsar but if you have to pay for it I don't think I'll bother.
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Post by mohammad on Oct 10, 2019 19:06:48 GMT -5
Friends, please boycott the Operation pass and don't buy it Prizes are halved and You have to play twice as much before Here you are not playing, They play with you
Fifteen dollars for this OP is stupid !!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 19:34:53 GMT -5
I'm going to cross post to this thread. rasnov has been playing hard and he has gotten to level 40. See: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/36143/needed-oxpBased upon the OXP figures he provided, it is about 3x more difficult to get to level 50 in the current operations as compared to the first one. This accounts for the current operations providing "40% more OXP" than the last one. Given the 3x difficulty and the reduced prizes, I would encourage everyone to hold off on buying the $15 pass until you are a few weeks into this. We don't know if the 3x will become 5x once the extra levels are considered or not.
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Post by rasnov on Oct 10, 2019 19:46:28 GMT -5
Ouch! Here is a quick chart for comparison purposes: OXP per level | Last Operation | Current Operation | Lvls 1 to 10 | 50 | 400 | Lvls 11 to 20 | 100 | 700 | Lvls 21 to 30 | 200 | 1,000 |
This is a *massive* increase in OXP requirements. Getting to level 31 took 3,500 OXP in the previous Operation; it takes 3,600 to get to level 9 in the current one. Getting to level 30 in the current Operation requires about the same OXP as getting to level 58 in the previous one. I wouldn't recommend anyone buy the Operation Pass now. Wait until the last day to assess the purchase. level 30 -> 1300 level 40 -> 1750
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Post by noctaire on Oct 10, 2019 22:15:14 GMT -5
Anyone got the full side by side on OXP yet? Surely someone is already running around in their new Tree-Tyr by now....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 22:18:01 GMT -5
I just got to 30. Probably a couple more levels before I call it quits for tonight. Have a shot of seeing level 51 tomorrow.
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Post by cheap on Oct 10, 2019 22:39:25 GMT -5
all i know is someone will finish it in a week.
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Post by hon_shu on Oct 11, 2019 0:46:23 GMT -5
Sigh, I kept hoping they had finally smartened up with Operation Gathering Storm. But, it seems they're getting greedy again. But, at the same time, I'm kind of glad. Now, I won't be tempted to buy the Gold Pass. Other than resources, there's really nothing I really want in the Gold Pass. Sure, I'll get 2 Igniters (I hate flamer weapons), a Corona (I just started leveling my 4th and I don't have a home for it yet), and a Nemesis (this tempts me, but I have no place for it unless I open my 5th hangar deck), and Tyr (ditto, I'd like it, but don't have a place right now). Oh, and Pulsars...well, I'm over the halfway point on my 4th Pulsar in the WS. After I finish it, I don't see the need for more Pulsars because if I get a 5th, then I have to grind for a 6th cause one Pulsar on its own isn't really worth running. If they hadn't nerfed the resources, I might have bought the Gold Pass again cause I really need silver. But, looks like I'll be slowing down my playing, let my thumbs recover, and take a good long serious look at Mario Kart Tour on my phone! All of this, same here. Half the reason I bought Ops Pass last time was to give Pix a vote with my wallet (the only vote that counts) in support of a reasonably high value subscription revenue model rather than the Pay4Power model. Well, they showed me just how much they valued my $14.99 vote (biggest War Robots purchase ever) by releasing Leech and nerfing the hell out of Ops. I feel Ike they basically ignored my vote and rewarded me by kicking me... Thank you Pix for fully cementing my original opinion of you, and punishing me for thinking that there would be any positive change. what vote? They have your money Totally agree, I'm gonna vote "no thank you" this time, which coincidentally was also my vote on the last event after I saw 「whiskey tango foxtrot」 they had done with Leech.
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Post by Wife is Pissed on Oct 11, 2019 2:06:00 GMT -5
I really wanted a Blackbird Falcon, but they put that one on the paid track and the ugly yellow on on the free at level 80, which I will never get to. I don't want to encourage Prixonic's bad behavior just to get the Blackbird skin, so I guess I will pass.
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Post by immortal on Oct 11, 2019 2:35:42 GMT -5
Black skin looks gud. I'll try it.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Oct 11, 2019 5:31:50 GMT -5
All of this, same here. Half the reason I bought Ops Pass last time was to give Pix a vote with my wallet (the only vote that counts) in support of a reasonably high value subscription revenue model rather than the Pay4Power model. Well, they showed me just how much they valued my $14.99 vote (biggest War Robots purchase ever) by releasing Leech and nerfing the hell out of Ops. I feel Ike they basically ignored my vote and rewarded me by kicking me... Thank you Pix for fully cementing my original opinion of you, and punishing me for thinking that there would be any positive change. what vote? They have your money Totally agree, I'm gonna vote "no thank you" this time, which coincidentally was also my vote on the last event after I saw ?whiskey tango foxtrot? they had done with Leech. Yup, 2 months ago they got 14.99 from me for Ops Pass (minus Apple’s cut), this month they got 0. Lots of comments here and on FB indicate that I am not alone. They missed out on a consistent revenue opportunity and instead created a PR fiasco.
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Post by shivaswrath on Oct 11, 2019 6:54:43 GMT -5
If I'm doing 3200 OXP with no boosters per day...I'll only hit 192,000 by day 60.
FML.
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Post by Desc440 on Oct 11, 2019 7:22:45 GMT -5
Observation - Pixo always does the opposite of what Machiavelli preached: if you have to do something that is going to be unpopular, do it as soon as possible and all in one shot, and then do the popular things in small increments over a long period of time.
Instead of starting small with ops and increasing the rewards progressively, they started big and now are already nerfing them. Same thing happened with pretty much every 「fluffernutter」ing thing they've done in this game.
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Post by Loganspawn on Oct 11, 2019 8:24:54 GMT -5
Observation - Pixo always does the opposite of what Machiavelli preached: if you have to do something that is going to be unpopular, do it as soon as possible and all in one shot, and then do the popular things in small increments over a long period of time. Instead of starting small with ops and increasing the rewards progressively, they started big and now are already nerfing them. Same thing happened with pretty much every ?fluffernutter?ing thing they've done in this game.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2019 2:03:16 GMT -5
Ok, I made it to level 50. Here's the info. I'll have a write-up over the weekend at some point.
Going to levels 2-10 = 400 OXP per level 11-20 = 700 21-30 = 1000 31-40 = 1300 41-50 = 1750 51-60 = 2300 61-70 = ? 71-80 = ? 81-90 = ? 91-100 = ?
So the grand total to get to level 60 is 74100 OXP. Since OXP accumulates "40% faster" in this event than the last one, this equates to about 53000 OXP in Gathering Storm or about 73 in that event. I intend to do a comparison showing the goodies you would get at level 60 in the current event vs. level 73 in the last event. Anyone want to stick their necks out and say we get less now? Anyone? Anyone?
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Post by foxypotato on Oct 12, 2019 2:44:26 GMT -5
Eh I'll buy the pass this time around. I want the Pulsars. I only have the one on the potato. I would like to run a Shredder Pulsar Griffin at some point. I also have a underutilized Specter that could benefit from 4 Pulsars.
I bought the pass last time after competing the F2P pass and was surpized at the resources it provided for the value. It was the best $15 I ever spent in this game.
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Post by donthurtme on Oct 12, 2019 3:54:43 GMT -5
Beeing an old school player i already know ops was gonna get netfed sooner or later. Pixonic never gives anything good easy, if they do theres always a hidden motive. Its just the game accept it.
Anyhow i'd still get the pass, its still good value for $30(ops and premium), you get 7k gold, two igniters, a corona, a tyr (its still a good bot), two pulsars and a nemesis with legendary pilot which i will never build, 50% silver, 50% upgrade time cut, and 50% ops cut.
Dont worry about not beeing able to finish it. I had the same tought last month and i ended up getting dw aojun about two weeks before the event ended.
They have built in 50% oxp boosters every 10 levels or so plus if youre premium you get another 50% boost.
Im getting around 400 oxp per game with both on (champ league).
And if youre still not on champ league you should be or very soon will be unless youre tanking or a very casual player which then will mean ops is not really important.
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Post by reconnecting on Oct 12, 2019 11:39:52 GMT -5
Anyone got the full side by side on OXP yet? Surely someone is already running around in their new Tree-Tyr by now.... Mods maybe you can sticky this information? With higher levels too if anyone got there yet?
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Post by aaronc on Oct 18, 2019 3:04:32 GMT -5
So, when does the Raging and Typhoon bits actual happen? Its barely a drizzle as far as I can tell...
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Post by Loganspawn on Oct 18, 2019 9:56:45 GMT -5
So, when does the Raging and Typhoon bits actual happen? Its barely a drizzle as far as I can tell... When the Titans piss you will know........
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 17:58:20 GMT -5
The name of this "Operation" needs to be changed to Operation Silent Egg Fart. That is all carry on. There may be better silent fart memes, but this seems most appropriate since it’s coming from Pix... Quit stealing my avatar please....
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