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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 9, 2017 11:50:37 GMT -5
Heavy bot, top speed 10km/h. At level 9 max speed 15km/h. Rush ability 50% speed boost for 10 seconds, cooldown is 30 seconds. Base level health 160,000. Max level health 260,000. No shields or ancile built in.
The bot must be short/low and wide.
The kicker.
2 Heavy hardpoints
4 Light hardpoints
All weapons are mounted low on the bot, making any kind of sniper configuration very difficult. Basically making close combat the only option.
It would basically replace the Raijin in its purpose. Hope you can get to a beacon before you die and just hold it.
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Post by RightOn on Mar 9, 2017 12:00:33 GMT -5
There's problem with anything more than 4 hardpoins:
The GUI
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 9, 2017 12:03:20 GMT -5
There's problem with anything more than 4 hardpoins: The GUI 4 Heavy Points then! Lol |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 9, 2017 12:05:33 GMT -5
Heavy bot, top speed 10km/h. At level 9 max speed 15km/h. Rush ability 50% speed boost for 10 seconds, cooldown is 30 seconds. Base level health 160,000. Max level health 260,000. No shields or ancile built in. The bot must be short/low and wide. The kicker. 2 Heavy hardpoints 4 Light hardpoints All weapons are mounted low on the bot, making any kind of sniper configuration very difficult. Basically making close combat the only option. It would basically replace the Raijin in its purpose. Hope you can get to a beacon before you die and just hold it. I don't think it would replace the Raij without a Shield... 260k HP may seem like a lot... but not against 2 or 3 maxed players. Won't last long at all. Would need a Shield Natty (or something similar, even an Ancilot or an Ancile Raij) to stand in front of it... to do the job. IMO |
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Post by Duodec on Mar 9, 2017 12:07:01 GMT -5
With that speed you'd be just a bag of hp with a knife fighting kit. It would become the new old Natasha, despite low weapons. There are plenty of places where that wouldn't matter and it would be seconds before someone ran a Treb/Gekko/Ancile monstrosity. |
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Post by RightOn on Mar 9, 2017 12:07:05 GMT -5
combinations we haven't seen:
2 heavy 2 med (lol)
2 heavy 1 med 1 light
1 heavy, 2 med, 1 light
1 heavy, 1 med, 2 light (favorite)
2 med 1 light
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 9, 2017 12:07:09 GMT -5
Heavy bot, top speed 10km/h. At level 9 max speed 15km/h. Rush ability 50% speed boost for 10 seconds, cooldown is 30 seconds. Base level health 160,000. Max level health 260,000. No shields or ancile built in. The bot must be short/low and wide. The kicker. 2 Heavy hardpoints 4 Light hardpoints All weapons are mounted low on the bot, making any kind of sniper configuration very difficult. Basically making close combat the only option. It would basically replace the Raijin in its purpose. Hope you can get to a beacon before you die and just hold it. I don't think it would replace the Raij without a Shield... 260k HP may seem like a lot... but not against 2 or 3 maxed players. Won't last long at all. Would need a Shield Natty (or something similar, even an Ancilot or an Ancile Raij) to stand in front of it... to do the job. IMO Double ancile with 4 mags or 4 pinatas? Only vulnerable to plasma then. And it would be a bot that really requires some teamwork to be fully effective, but that's every niche bot. The Raijin can actually be effective when a team works together to use it. It's just terrible on its own. |
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Post by Duodec on Mar 9, 2017 12:09:27 GMT -5
There's problem with anything more than 4 hardpoins: The GUI 4 Heavy Points then! Lol I'll take five. |
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 9, 2017 12:13:33 GMT -5
You get a Heavy hardpoint! You get a Heavy hardpoint! You. All. Get. Heavy. Hardpoints!!!!!!!
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 9, 2017 12:14:15 GMT -5
I don't think it would replace the Raij without a Shield... 260k HP may seem like a lot... but not against 2 or 3 maxed players. Won't last long at all. Would need a Shield Natty (or something similar, even an Ancilot or an Ancile Raij) to stand in front of it... to do the job. IMO Double ancile with 4 mags or 4 pinatas? Only vulnerable to plasma then. And it would be a bot that really requires some teamwork to be fully effective, but that's every niche bot. The Raijin can actually be effective when a team works together to use it. It's just terrible on its own. Double Ancile with 4 Aphids would likely be a common use in that case... And yes, agreed, the Raij is best used by a squad that knows how to... but even in that, the Natty works better with ECUs for the Physical shield component, as it is capable of using them while mobile.... |
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 9, 2017 12:15:50 GMT -5
It's so painfully slow that it would really only be good in a sniping role. If i saw this monster lumbering toward my beacon, I'd just go capture a different one.
I'd prefer my walking outhouse idea. Physical shielding on all sides and top, can pop the door open to unload an ECC Thunder but this makes it immobile.
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 9, 2017 12:16:50 GMT -5
What about a heavy bot with a round shaped build, and four heavy hardpoints all facing different directions. Constant 360 degree Thunder fire.
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 9, 2017 12:19:48 GMT -5
What about a bot that has the ability to scrunch up into a ball, thus taking advantage of terrain to quickly move. Could be a 1 second cooldown like the Gareth/Gala shield.
You could use it to roll to the bottom of a ramp quickly. Or down a hill. Obviously your be concealing all of your hardpoints so you can't attack from the ball position. And maybe since you're balled up, you could be armored and only take 50% of incoming damage while in a ball.
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 9, 2017 12:23:24 GMT -5
What about a bot that has the ability to scrunch up into a ball, thus taking advantage of terrain to quickly move. Could be a 1 second cooldown like the Gareth/Gala shield. You could use it to roll to the bottom of a ramp quickly. Or down a hill. Obviously your be concealing all of your hardpoints so you can't attack from the ball position. And maybe since you're balled up, you could be armored and only take 50% of incoming damage while in a ball. The Lancelot already looks like this. Maybe he can just have an Alternate ability instead of Rush where he tucks his legs up an rolls down the terrain. Might have to relocate that heavy hardpoint too. |
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 9, 2017 12:30:56 GMT -5
What about a bot that has the ability to scrunch up into a ball, thus taking advantage of terrain to quickly move. Could be a 1 second cooldown like the Gareth/Gala shield. You could use it to roll to the bottom of a ramp quickly. Or down a hill. Obviously your be concealing all of your hardpoints so you can't attack from the ball position. And maybe since you're balled up, you could be armored and only take 50% of incoming damage while in a ball. The Lancelot already looks like this. Maybe he can just have an Alternate ability instead of Rush where he tucks his legs up an rolls down the terrain. Might have to relocate that heavy hardpoint too. I'm thinking more of a light bot. Call it Sonic. Top speed of 60 at max level so it can get a running start into a ball. Top speed while rolling down a hill in ball form is 100, if a steep enough decline. |
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 9, 2017 12:31:57 GMT -5
I like it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 12:32:30 GMT -5
What about a bot that has the ability to scrunch up into a ball, thus taking advantage of terrain to quickly move. Could be a 1 second cooldown like the Gareth/Gala shield. You could use it to roll to the bottom of a ramp quickly. Or down a hill. Obviously your be concealing all of your hardpoints so you can't attack from the ball position. And maybe since you're balled up, you could be armored and only take 50% of incoming damage while in a ball. Like the Droideka in star wars. |
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Post by SATmaster728 on Mar 9, 2017 12:35:45 GMT -5
Heavy bot, top speed 10km/h. At level 9 max speed 15km/h. Rush ability 50% speed boost for 10 seconds, cooldown is 30 seconds. Base level health 160,000. Max level health 260,000. No shields or ancile built in. The bot must be short/low and wide. The kicker. 2 Heavy hardpoints 4 Light hardpoints All weapons are mounted low on the bot, making any kind of sniper configuration very difficult. Basically making close combat the only option. It would basically replace the Raijin in its purpose. Hope you can get to a beacon before you die and just hold it. "Raijin is a four-legged heavy robot. A walking fortress, Raijin is a living mechanical incarnation of positional warfare and heavy armaments. Considerably outperforms any robot at long ranged exchange of fire. Upon activating the Bastion ability, Raijin elevates his tower, gaining strategic advantage as well as protection from his built in shields. While in this mode, Raijin is unable to move but is still able to turn around and fire." The rajin is a heavy sniper. close combat is NOT its intended tion |
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 9, 2017 12:39:14 GMT -5
Heavy bot, top speed 10km/h. At level 9 max speed 15km/h. Rush ability 50% speed boost for 10 seconds, cooldown is 30 seconds. Base level health 160,000. Max level health 260,000. No shields or ancile built in. The bot must be short/low and wide. The kicker. 2 Heavy hardpoints 4 Light hardpoints All weapons are mounted low on the bot, making any kind of sniper configuration very difficult. Basically making close combat the only option. It would basically replace the Raijin in its purpose. Hope you can get to a beacon before you die and just hold it. "Raijin is a four-legged heavy robot. A walking fortress, Raijin is a living mechanical incarnation of positional warfare and heavy armaments. Considerably outperforms any robot at long ranged exchange of fire. Upon activating the Bastion ability, Raijin elevates his tower, gaining strategic advantage as well as protection from his built in shields. While in this mode, Raijin is unable to move but is still able to turn around and fire." The rajin is a heavy sniper. close combat is NOT its intended tion When I say "it's purpose", I don't mean it's in-game description. I mean it's purpose in reality. The Raijin is heavily outperformed in sniping by Furies. It's also outperformed by Natasha's, Carnage(if they felt like sniping in one for some reason), and even Treb/Gekko Leo's. The only use for a Raijin as it stands is to hold a beacon, and it needs support from its team to even do that. |
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Post by SATmaster728 on Mar 9, 2017 12:42:33 GMT -5
"Raijin is a four-legged heavy robot. A walking fortress, Raijin is a living mechanical incarnation of positional warfare and heavy armaments. Considerably outperforms any robot at long ranged exchange of fire. Upon activating the Bastion ability, Raijin elevates his tower, gaining strategic advantage as well as protection from his built in shields. While in this mode, Raijin is unable to move but is still able to turn around and fire." The rajin is a heavy sniper. close combat is NOT its intended tion When I say "it's purpose", I don't mean it's in-game description. I mean it's purpose in reality. The Raijin is heavily outperformed in sniping by Furies. It's also outperformed by Natasha's, Carnage(if they felt like sniping in one for some reason), and even Treb/Gekko Leo's. The only use for a Raijin as it stands is to hold a beacon, and it needs support from its team to even do that. a fury without a shield is out performed despite having one more hitpoint. the fury is also a gold bot, and you know the gold>workshop thing, most likely. |
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 9, 2017 12:45:53 GMT -5
When I say "it's purpose", I don't mean it's in-game description. I mean it's purpose in reality. The Raijin is heavily outperformed in sniping by Furies. It's also outperformed by Natasha's, Carnage(if they felt like sniping in one for some reason), and even Treb/Gekko Leo's. The only use for a Raijin as it stands is to hold a beacon, and it needs support from its team to even do that. a fury without a shield is out performed despite having one more hitpoint. the fury is also a gold bot, and you know the gold>workshop thing, most likely. How does a sniper without a shield matter much? The point of a sniper is to stay out of the battle and inflict damage from afar. Both bots can move along the edge of the map equally, Fury even a little bit better. So the only thing to differentiate them is damage output. Also, I think Gold and WSP bots and weapons are pretty evenly matched overall. They both vastly outperform Silver counterparts, except for the Griffin. |
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Post by Feezou on Mar 9, 2017 16:59:17 GMT -5
The GUI is like bye Felicia, and wayyyy to unbalanced. Two anciles and aphids would be deadly. And what would become of the Leo? At first, it's not that behind in health. It doesn't really stay far either.
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 9, 2017 17:17:59 GMT -5
The GUI is like bye Felicia, and wayyyy to unbalanced. Two anciles and aphids would be deadly. And what would become of the Leo? At first, it's not that behind in health. It doesn't really stay far either. Behold the power of Gary! Ancile Aphids would be helpless against a Gareth. Aphids are the easiest missile to dodge, for the best dodging bot in the game. And without physical shields, it would be very squishy to plasma. The GUI may suffer lol. I was mainly joking about the idea anyways. |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Mar 9, 2017 17:29:00 GMT -5
That moment when you realise that the rush mode for this bot is slower than a rhino not using assault mode. Best use for this bot would be ummmm nothing. Yeah. Aphid platforms generally have to get good angles to fire, with this bot it would be almost impossible.
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 9, 2017 17:31:30 GMT -5
That moment when you realise that the rush mode for this bot is slower than a rhino not using assault mode. Best use for this bot would be ummmm nothing. Yeah. Aphid platforms generally have to get good angles to fire, with this bot it would be almost impossible. It would be a beacon camper. Granted it's able to make it to one. |
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 9, 2017 17:34:19 GMT -5
What about a long range bot, with the special ability to literally pitch a tent and camp. Once the tent is pitched, its permanent and the bot can no longer move, only pivot. There are two small openings in the tent, in whatever direction the bot is aiming at, and directly behind the bot. This hole is the only way damage can get through(splash or plasma). The rest of the tent is inpenetrable.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Mar 9, 2017 17:40:46 GMT -5
What about a long range bot, with the special ability to literally pitch a tent and camp. Once the tent is pitched, its permanent and the bot can no longer move, only pivot. There are two small openings in the tent, in whatever direction the bot is aiming at, and directly behind the bot. This hole is the only way damage can get through(splash or plasma). The rest of the tent is inpenetrable. *pitches tent with both openings covered by walls* |
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Post by ChillyTempurrrrr on Mar 9, 2017 22:47:54 GMT -5
combinations we haven't seen: 2 heavy 2 med (lol) 2 heavy 1 med 1 light 1 heavy, 2 med, 1 light 1 heavy, 1 med, 2 light (favorite) 2 med 1 light 2 heavy 2 medium NO 2 heavy 1 medium 1 light would look kinda weird but could work would be very strong though 1 heavy 2 medium 1 light would be a nice bot still would look kinda weird with 1 light 1 heavy 1 medium 2 light favourite also did come up with a good design for that setup aswell 2 mediums 1 light this would be a decent build maybe but a built in energy shield similar to the carnage and you have a different version of the galahad You forgot a few setups 3 lights 1 medium 3 mediums 1 light 3 heavys 1 medium 3 heavys 1 light All of which would be either stupid looking or be Hella op |
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Post by Fredrick on Mar 9, 2017 23:30:49 GMT -5
combinations we haven't seen: 2 heavy 2 med (lol) 2 heavy 1 med 1 light 1 heavy, 2 med, 1 light 1 heavy, 1 med, 2 light (favorite) 2 med 1 light I wouldn't mind a 2 heavy 1 medium configuration. MH -_- H () () X X |
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 9, 2017 23:51:46 GMT -5
combinations we haven't seen: 2 heavy 2 med (lol) 2 heavy 1 med 1 light 1 heavy, 2 med, 1 light 1 heavy, 1 med, 2 light (favorite) 2 med 1 light I wouldn't mind a 2 heavy 1 medium configuration. MH -_- H () () X XI have a feeling they've avoided side mounting Heavy hardpoints to avoid corner shooting Thunders. Can you imagine corner shooting with double Thunders? |
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