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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 7, 2017 19:24:48 GMT -5
Hello all, I have always run my Rhino with the Hellfire setup and I do really like being prepared for anything, however, I am cracking into Gold 2 atm and wondering if going all rockets or all plasma would be better?
Please give reasons for your opinion, thank you in advance
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 19:35:47 GMT -5
I prefer the plasma setup. I do so because I want my Rhino staying in the 300-350m range and melting someone without being the primary focus of return fire. With the DB setup, Rhino will often be very vulnerable after firing its salvo, without the means or maneuverability to get out of the battle to reload and repeat the way Griffin can.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Mar 7, 2017 20:11:30 GMT -5
Orkans are fine but magnums are preferred over the piñatas for range and continuous fire even after the shield is raised. Orkans give you the option to unload your payload then shield up and continue to do damage with magnums. The Tarans leaves you exposed longer.
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 7, 2017 21:00:11 GMT -5
I prefer the plasma setup. I do so because I want my Rhino staying in the 300-350m range and melting someone without being the primary focus of return fire. With the DB setup, Rhino will often be very vulnerable after firing its salvo, without the means or maneuverability to get out of the battle to reload and repeat the way Griffin can. That was my first impression when I tried DB when I first got it. That's why I went with the Hellfire and so far so good..... +300m does keep you away from nasty shield busting rockets. Can you drop a Griffin in a single cycle from your Tarans if you don't miss, or do you need to load a second clip to finish them off? |
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Post by ChillyTempurrrrr on Mar 7, 2017 21:02:54 GMT -5
Full DB will be best because you will not have to worry about retreating from other splash such as db griffins cause with same level setups it will beat any other db build
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 7, 2017 21:04:33 GMT -5
Orkans are fine but magnums are preferred over the piñatas for range and continuous fire even after the shield is raised. Orkans give you the option to unload your payload then shield up and continue to do damage with magnums. The Tarans leaves you exposed longer. I generally use my ork/mag Hellfire Rhino as Hammer to break the enemy front and cause general panic... I will B-Line it too wherever they are pressing and bust up the party, usually killing 1-3 and halting their advance or taking the beacon before I die. I guess more than max dps I'm trying to find which has the most survivability. |
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 7, 2017 21:05:58 GMT -5
Full DB will be best because you will not have to worry about retreating from other splash such as db griffins cause with same level setups it will beat any other db build 1 on 1 for sure but what is the DB strategy when facing multiple opponents? |
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Post by ChillyTempurrrrr on Mar 7, 2017 21:07:22 GMT -5
Full DB will be best because you will not have to worry about retreating from other splash such as db griffins cause with same level setups it will beat any other db build 1 on 1 for sure but what is the DB strategy when facing multiple opponents? use you shield effectively and keep your distance from them so that they don't rush you |
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 7, 2017 21:10:51 GMT -5
I have the Pintas and Tarans to mix it up and give it a try...thank you for valuable insight  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 21:14:42 GMT -5
I prefer the plasma setup. I do so because I want my Rhino staying in the 300-350m range and melting someone without being the primary focus of return fire. With the DB setup, Rhino will often be very vulnerable after firing its salvo, without the means or maneuverability to get out of the battle to reload and repeat the way Griffin can. That was my first impression when I tried DB when I first got it. That's why I went with the Hellfire and so far so good..... +300m does keep you away from nasty shield busting rockets. Can you drop a Griffin in a single cycle from your Tarans if you don't miss, or do you need to load a second clip to finish them off? The numbers at level 9 indicate you can do 53,568 damage per Taran in 10 seconds (32 shots), and about 25,110 per magnum (18 shots). So 157,356 total output. Griffins health at level 9 is 132k. So in theory, you should be able to kill them at those levels. In reality, sometimes I miss, sometimes Griff jumps, sometimes one of my guns is hitting a wall, etc, etc.... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 21:42:49 GMT -5
Android Gold or iOS Gold?
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Post by Deadalready on Mar 7, 2017 22:24:52 GMT -5
I use Orkans and Magnums. As mentioned the Rhino is no good in open ground, Tulus/tridents/pins even aphids will rip you apart, that's assuming you have your shield up.
To me the Rhino is best used to get quickly to a hiding spot and defending. So use of weapons that can hit hard at short ranges where it's very hard to dodge, like the Orkan/Pinata are excellent choices.
The Rhino can rush under cover which is where it beats the Griffin (Grffin exposes itself when jumping).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 3:14:11 GMT -5
Don't forget, there also the white rhino, black rhino, and the Sumatran rhino (kinda short and hairy, so not a good choice)
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 8, 2017 5:42:15 GMT -5
Android Gold or iOS Gold? Android |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 7:25:10 GMT -5
Android Gold or iOS Gold? Android Don't use a Rhino then. Griffin is better in Android Gold. |
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Post by SuperHero on Mar 8, 2017 10:14:45 GMT -5
^^ Griffin is generally better in iOS Gold and above as well. But it depends on the pilot. The Rhino is harder to drive, but better at capping. I know some amazing Rhino pilots, but while I'm a decent rhino pilot, I am a better Griffin pilot.
On out-of-the-box suggestion is Orkan/CRVs. I've seen some elite pilots use them to great effect. Firing the CRVs while charging hurts the target from longer range and gives u time to reload. It also gives a good chance of a Griffin jumping to avoid, this wasting his jump and leaving him more vulnerable as you keep charging at him. I've seen it used to quite good effect before. But it's unxonventional
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Post by ou812gr8m8 on Mar 8, 2017 10:18:08 GMT -5
I suggest one without horns because otherwise you get shot in the head, even if you're in a zoo.
(I don't have a Rhino in game, so thought I'd throw in a topical reference)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 11:12:39 GMT -5
^^ Griffin is generally better in iOS Gold and above as well. But it depends on the pilot. The Rhino is harder to drive, but better at capping. I know some amazing Rhino pilots, but while I'm a decent rhino pilot, I am a better Griffin pilot. On out-of-the-box suggestion is Orkan/CRVs. I've seen some elite pilots use them to great effect. Firing the CRVs while charging hurts the target from longer range and gives u time to reload. It also gives a good chance of a Griffin jumping to avoid, this wasting his jump and leaving him more vulnerable as you keep charging at him. I've seen it used to quite good effect before. But it's unxonventional Rhino > Griffin below iOS Gold or Android Silver Rhino = Griffin on iOS Gold or Android Silver Rhino < Griffin above iOS Gold or Android Silver |
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 8, 2017 11:52:45 GMT -5
^^ Griffin is generally better in iOS Gold and above as well. But it depends on the pilot. The Rhino is harder to drive, but better at capping. I know some amazing Rhino pilots, but while I'm a decent rhino pilot, I am a better Griffin pilot. On out-of-the-box suggestion is Orkan/CRVs. I've seen some elite pilots use them to great effect. Firing the CRVs while charging hurts the target from longer range and gives u time to reload. It also gives a good chance of a Griffin jumping to avoid, this wasting his jump and leaving him more vulnerable as you keep charging at him. I've seen it used to quite good effect before. But it's unxonventional I did try that out on the Test Server a couple weeks ago and it definitely does give some advantages worth the dps trade off...I'll have to try it in my current league and see how much mileage I get. ( Unsure how to not sound rude/ungreatful for advice here sorry) The topic on the table, however, is which Rhino not Rhino alternatives. I have both the Rhino and the Griffin at level 10. The Griffin shares a spot with my Rog which you will have to pry from my cold dead hands! |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 8, 2017 12:04:05 GMT -5
I tend to prefer the Full DB... but the Hellfire or the Aphid Ork are my favorites atm as far as actual sustainability passed the first couple of encounters.
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Post by robocain on Mar 8, 2017 14:06:12 GMT -5
You could also consider Punisher/Orkan Rhino. Effective against Carnage, Fujin and other bots with Anciles.
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Post by Meep on Mar 8, 2017 22:55:19 GMT -5
With the increased number of energy shields I've tried the punisher/ork setup myself and have liked it. Rhino doesn't have a permanent slot in my hanger though with new MM unfortunately. Same with Rog
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Post by spawnreaper on Mar 8, 2017 23:02:14 GMT -5
I like help fire myself, but I also have used a hydra and spiral or mag setup. Worked well in long range maps were your forced to take some damage to get to a good spot. From there its hide and seek from enemy
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Post by hyderier on Mar 11, 2017 1:56:23 GMT -5
1 on 1 for sure but what is the DB strategy when facing multiple opponents? use you shield effectively and keep your distance from them so that they don't rush you Keep your distance with a DB Rhino, especially while using shield effectively? Intriguing concept, please tell us more. |
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Post by Strayed on Mar 11, 2017 2:17:39 GMT -5
Honestly, in my opinion, I would use a PDB or DB Rhino over the Hellfire. While the hellfire is able to fight both anicle and phys shield bots, it will be destroyed by more specialized bots, namely the DB Griffin. The PDB Rhino would be able to deal a huge amount of damage to the DB Griffin from afar while still being able to stay out of its effective range. The DB Rhino could stay out of its range until the DB Griffin touches down, at which point it will be able to win a brute force fight due to its higher health. In addition to that, the PDB Rhino is the most versatile Rhino, it can flank extremely effectively and it can serve as a squad support bot as well. A lot of people like this guide so I'll post it here as well. warrobots.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:I%27mWithTheGuyWithTheShirtThatSaysI%27mWithStupid/PDB_rhino_guide |
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Post by bahogilok on Mar 11, 2017 4:57:31 GMT -5
I second Strayed's suggestion on the PDB rhino, if you have orks the griffin would utilize them MUCH better; but as a plasma platform I think only the Galahad can top the rhino
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Post by crave1ne on Mar 11, 2017 9:20:55 GMT -5
I love the hellfire set up. I have used that set up since getting a Rhino. With that said, I chose the DB version. I just recently switched to this version after noticing on Android Legend League that the DB Rhino kept showing up in some of the top players in that tier. Hellfire is easy to play, DB you have to move to cover after unloading. But damn it does a nice job!
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Post by Titan Song on Mar 11, 2017 15:38:15 GMT -5
I ditched my rhino, as you cannot prevent getting outflanked. I may start running it with orkans and punishers at some point. As mentioned above it can keep ancils down and allow orkans to do full damage. But with all the rocket agro in the meta now the rhino is just too slow to manoeuvre. They really need to speed up the shield mechanics so it can deploy and disengage quicker to make it useful again.
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Post by crave1ne on Mar 13, 2017 10:00:26 GMT -5
I ditched my rhino, as you cannot prevent getting outflanked. I may start running it with orkans and punishers at some point. As mentioned above it can keep ancils down and allow orkans to do full damage. But with all the rocket agro in the meta now the rhino is just too slow to manoeuvre. They really need to speed up the shield mechanics so it can deploy and disengage quicker to make it useful again. After I save for it, the Lance will be replacing mine. It can and does get outflanked, depends on the map. Dead City there is enough cover to stay covered. I agree, would be nice to quicken the shield a bit. |
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Post by tttt on Mar 13, 2017 11:04:50 GMT -5
Orkins and magnums are a Lemonhead setup. All that yellow ...
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