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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Jun 19, 2019 14:48:00 GMT -5
I like to think that Robbie is proof (even though he’s certainly an outlier) that bots other than Ares and other perceived top tier meta can do really well in the hands of a truly dedicated and skilled player. My feeling is that other bots have undiscovered strengths, too. I've uhhh... already thought of and started the next year-long project. I have a problem.
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Post by Racerx7394 on Jun 19, 2019 14:53:58 GMT -5
Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ Thanks for posting that and sharing your skills. It helps to see what you are doing and recommending. I saw you posting about the Mender a few weeks ago and now upgrading a Mender with Corona, Shredders to replace a Nemesis.
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Jun 19, 2019 14:58:00 GMT -5
Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ Thanks for posting that and sharing your skills. It helps to see what you are doing and recommending. I saw you posting about the Mender a few weeks ago and now upgrading a Mender with Corona, Shredders to replace a Nemesis. Practice with it and know when to attack and when to evade & coordinate timing and skills. It's a really fun bot and rewarding!
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Post by careyfan on Jun 19, 2019 15:14:30 GMT -5
I like to think that Robbie is proof (even though he’s certainly an outlier) that bots other than Ares and other perceived top tier meta can do really well in the hands of a truly dedicated and skilled player. My feeling is that other bots have undiscovered strengths, too. I've uhhh... already thought of and started the next year-long project. I have a problem. Can you at least try more than 1 other bot? We selfishly want to learn about as many bots as possible as long as you can still do a deep dive. Jk, of course. You do you, Bob. You do you.
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Jun 19, 2019 15:17:07 GMT -5
I've uhhh... already thought of and started the next year-long project. I have a problem. Can you at least try more than 1 other bot? We selfishly want to learn about as many bots as possible as long as you can still do a deep dive. Jk, of course. You do you, Bob. You do you. I'm afraid i'm not wired that way, I've never been diagnosed with OCD but I compulsively like to have multiples of the same thing. Even when I'm transitioning to new hangar(s) I have a deep desire to have equal numbers, colors, mods, skills etc... To the point where I'll wake up during the night with it bothering me and I'll change my hangar back. <3 u CF
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Post by S1E1 on Jun 19, 2019 15:39:29 GMT -5
So it seems like Scourge-Spark doesn't make the cut. I can understand why, no lockdown effect and always losing lock-on against stealth bots. But I've really liked it because it is damaging at both a distance and up close. Damage-wise does Shredder-Corona really outperform it?
I only have 2 Shredders and 1 Corona and right now they are all at L7-8 vs my L11-12 Sparks & Scourge. So I haven't really been able to effectively compare the two. (Also pairing Shredders with Corona never occured to me - thanks for the tip!)
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Jun 19, 2019 15:48:06 GMT -5
So it seems like Scourge-Spark doesn't make the cut. I can understand why, no lockdown effect and always losing lock-on against stealth bots. But I've really liked it because it is damaging at both a distance and up close. Damage-wise does Shredder-Corona really outperform it? I only have 2 Shredders and 1 Corona and right now they are all at L7-8 vs my L11-12 Sparks & Scourge. So I haven't really been able to effectively compare the two. (Also pairing Shredders with Corona never occured to me - thanks for the tip!) I actually really like Scourge/Spark - I'm not entirely sold on Pulsar/Spark just something I'm currently testing. Honestly I like Corona/Spark even more than Pulsar/Spark - Pulsar is often hard to see the shots & crosshairs and know if its connecting... I just don't own enough Corona. When it comes to Scourge-Type builds if you want to stick to that I'd say Corona/Spark is the best, then Pulsar & Scourge Spark are tied for second. Definitely don't need the Pulsar and locks are rare with just one but when you get them it's punishing. The problem with Pulsar is you lose a lot of frying power (without Scourge) when you have to knife fight.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jun 19, 2019 20:09:29 GMT -5
Hi Bob, & Mender Pilots
If I may add a couple points for people here from our direct messages regarding Mender Modules I found really helpful:
‘You stated you run all armor on your Menders, not that many Haks, but definitely not Last Stand because it prevents healing when it activates.’
In addition, I’d say that at this point in the game, I am considering the anti-control as an important one to have.
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Jun 19, 2019 20:59:32 GMT -5
Hi Bob, & Mender Pilots If I may add a couple points for people here from our direct messages regarding Mender Modules I found really helpful: ‘You stated you run all armor on your Menders, not that many Haks, but definitely not Last Stand because it prevents healing when it activates.’ In addition, I’d say that at this point in the game, I am considering the anti-control as an important one to have. If you run deft survivor you absolutely have to have last stand. One of the most powerful plays is to get into an engagement, start the healing process and rush forward, when you get to cooldown and deft survivor kicks in, you don’t heal again right away you let last stand trigger, get your 4.5s or whatever of free damage then kick healing on again the instant last stand drops. That’s an insane amount of brawling & healing damage. Anti control is awesome on every bot yes, and awesome on Mender. My modules are Heavy Armor Kit/AC/Last Stand but I’d consider only Last Stand to be a priority.
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Post by RIP_HARAMBE on Jun 19, 2019 21:03:19 GMT -5
I’m a bot doctor - ask me anything! "Finger Bang" or "Finger Blast" ? ? ?
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Post by linearblade on Jun 20, 2019 0:11:27 GMT -5
I’ve only been playing my murder turtles for a while now; I’ve played every conceivable viable setup. My damage stats would probably be higher but I’ve been playing a good amount of squads lately. I’m a bot doctor - ask me anything! They kind of remind of murder mushrooms. Turtle sounds better tho
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jun 20, 2019 1:19:46 GMT -5
Ok, so Doctors orders, runnin’ an L11 Mk1 Mender with a Heavy Armor Kit, AC, & Last Stand, True Ace, Deft Survivor, Corona, and two Shredders ?? - this thing is awesome! I also really enjoy Plasma Mender - Taran & two Magnums?
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Post by orionpax on Jun 20, 2019 1:26:24 GMT -5
I've uhhh... already thought of and started the next year-long project. I have a problem. Can you at least try more than 1 other bot? We selfishly want to learn about as many bots as possible as long as you can still do a deep dive. Jk, of course. You do you, Bob. You do you. . Just had a game with you and a couple of your clan mates. I was with Bobby Digital and you guys smashed us. Good game. Nice to see you on the battlefield. Happy hunting.
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Post by orionpax on Jun 20, 2019 1:44:37 GMT -5
Ok, so Doctors orders, runnin’ an L11 Mk1 Mender with a Heavy Armor Kit, AC, & Last Stand, True Ace, Deft Survivor, Corona, and two Shredders ?? - this thing is awesome! I also really enjoy Plasma Mender - Taran & two Magnums? . Ok now I’m really feeling like I should put my mender back in my main hanger. I’m almost done farming Ag. As soon as I’m done with that I’m definitely putting it back into my main hanger. Thanks guys!
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Post by Garbage game on Jun 20, 2019 2:05:46 GMT -5
Can you at least try more than 1 other bot? We selfishly want to learn about as many bots as possible as long as you can still do a deep dive. Jk, of course. You do you, Bob. You do you. I'm afraid i'm not wired that way, I've never been diagnosed with OCD but I compulsively like to have multiples of the same thing. Even when I'm transitioning to new hangar(s) I have a deep desire to have equal numbers, colors, mods, skills etc... To the point where I'll wake up during the night with it bothering me and I'll change my hangar back. <3 u CF Still waiting on part 2 of that Griffin challenge ?
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Post by milty72 on Jun 20, 2019 3:17:13 GMT -5
Love the term Murder Turtle. Mine doesn't murder all that great though.
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Post by ironstar on Jun 20, 2019 5:55:57 GMT -5
Is the 200m for mk2 justifiable ? I'm personally debating to mk2 mine over my Ares and Ao Jun simply because I love the little guy
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Jun 20, 2019 6:49:26 GMT -5
Is the 200m for mk2 justifiable ? I'm personally debating to mk2 mine over my Ares and Ao Jun simply because I love the little guy The health and more importantly the extra 20% healing juice is a huge deal.
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Post by The VVatcher on Jun 20, 2019 7:20:47 GMT -5
Hi Bob, & Mender Pilots If I may add a couple points for people here from our direct messages regarding Mender Modules I found really helpful: ‘You stated you run all armor on your Menders, not that many Haks, but definitely not Last Stand because it prevents healing when it activates.’ In addition, I’d say that at this point in the game, I am considering the anti-control as an important one to have. If you run deft survivor you absolutely have to have last stand. One of the most powerful plays is to get into an engagement, start the healing process and rush forward, when you get to cooldown and deft survivor kicks in, you don’t heal again right away you let last stand trigger, get your 4.5s or whatever of free damage then kick healing on again the instant last stand drops. That’s an insane amount of brawling & healing damage. Anti control is awesome on every bot yes, and awesome on Mender. My modules are Heavy Armor Kit/AC/Last Stand but I’d consider only Last Stand to be a priority. I actually wanted to ask if we could see your modules
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jun 20, 2019 8:02:42 GMT -5
Is the 200m for mk2 justifiable ? I'm personally debating to mk2 mine over my Ares and Ao Jun simply because I love the little guy The health and more importantly the extra 20% healing juice is a huge deal. I have avoided Mk2ing any bots, but Mender might just be the 2nd bot I Mk2. I’m still way down on the learning curve, but when I get it all right, that lil turtle is a beast.
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Jun 20, 2019 8:17:28 GMT -5
If you run deft survivor you absolutely have to have last stand. One of the most powerful plays is to get into an engagement, start the healing process and rush forward, when you get to cooldown and deft survivor kicks in, you don’t heal again right away you let last stand trigger, get your 4.5s or whatever of free damage then kick healing on again the instant last stand drops. That’s an insane amount of brawling & healing damage. Anti control is awesome on every bot yes, and awesome on Mender. My modules are Heavy Armor Kit/AC/Last Stand but I’d consider only Last Stand to be a priority. I actually wanted to ask if we could see your modules ѻﻭɼﻉ That’s my setup now, but I’ll probably be wanting accelerator when & if that is released to replace Heavy Armor Kit. Currently eyeing spy as my next pilot skill for 5% more speed and if accelerator is released I’ll be rocking a 25% speed boost permanently (66kmh) and 45% speed boost behind on beacons (77kmh) and that’s without the “mend” speed boost (84kmh & 94kmh lol)
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Post by balrog89 on Jun 20, 2019 8:49:04 GMT -5
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Jun 20, 2019 8:56:46 GMT -5
I’m a bot doctor - ask me anything! "Finger Bang" or "Finger Blast" ? ? ? Bang. Only millennials say finger blast.
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Jun 20, 2019 8:57:45 GMT -5
I'm afraid i'm not wired that way, I've never been diagnosed with OCD but I compulsively like to have multiples of the same thing. Even when I'm transitioning to new hangar(s) I have a deep desire to have equal numbers, colors, mods, skills etc... To the point where I'll wake up during the night with it bothering me and I'll change my hangar back. <3 u CF Still waiting on part 2 of that Griffin challenge ? Yeah, I think that ship has sailed... Legacy bots have way too much going against them now to be viable above EL
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Jun 20, 2019 9:47:25 GMT -5
I could start recording some games I suppose.
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Post by balrog89 on Jun 20, 2019 9:49:34 GMT -5
I could start recording some games I suppose. Please do. The vids in the Strider thread helped me pilot that bot better. I want some damn visuals man
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 4, 2019 11:42:02 GMT -5
Dr. Bob, what do you think about running a Hussar Marquess Mender for large maps?
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Jul 4, 2019 23:43:22 GMT -5
Dr. Bob, what do you think about running a Hussar Marquess Mender for large maps? I haven’t tried that exact setup, but I’ve done various midrange builds and I’m always dissatisfied. When I go midrange I still prefer spark/scourge or even shotgun(E or K) with shot grouping... that way when it comes to brawling I can still dish damage. Mender can almost always close the gap due to healing/speed boost so I almost never intentionally try to hang back. I think if you want to do midrange you’re best off with any bot with a physical shield (or Greek shield ) to ward off opposing Ares. Dumb thing about midrange is they’re all countered by Ares’ ability which is why those builds don’t really exist in Champions League unless it’s on its own Ares (balance?). Technically though a Tyr or something with an appropriately strong physical shield should be able to succeed.
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Post by linearblade on Jul 4, 2019 23:51:07 GMT -5
Dr. Bob, what do you think about running a Hussar Marquess Mender for large maps? I haven’t tried that exact setup, but I’ve done various midrange builds and I’m always dissatisfied. When I go midrange I still prefer spark/scourge or even shotgun(E or K) with shot grouping... that way when it comes to brawling I can still dish damage. Mender can almost always close the gap due to healing/speed boost so I almost never intentionally try to hang back. I think if you want to do midrange you’re best off with any bot with a physical shield (or Greek shield ) to ward off opposing Ares. Dumb thing about midrange is they’re all countered by Ares’ ability which is why those builds don’t really exist in Champions League unless it’s on its own Ares (balance?). Technically though a Tyr or something with an appropriately strong physical shield should be able to succeed. Off topic, since murder gnomes lack heavy... but Dragoons at any range cause immediate ares death. It’s by far my strongest weapon vs them. I suspect because the instantaneous burst death of it. Otherwise, yes. Range vs ares sucks
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Post by BB on Jul 5, 2019 7:13:24 GMT -5
Paging Dr. Bob.....is it murder turtle weekend for the triple HP takedown? I expect you to set the high water mark for HPs, don’t let us down. ?
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