[NovR]101Rangers
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Why am I a recruit all over again?
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Post by [NovR]101Rangers on Mar 3, 2017 2:20:29 GMT -5
Share what's in your league so others know what to expect when they move up or down the leagues!
Playing in Bronze I & Silver III. Here's what I notice:
Players: Levels 26-30
Hangers: 3-5 bots, usually levels 6-8 bots and weapons
Bots: Predominantly heavies, with Gareths, Galahads, Golems, Pattons as well. Occasionally Furys, Lancelots, even the odd Destrier or Schultz.
Weapons: Nice to see Molots and Punishers still in use, but plasma is de facto. Lots of PDB and DB Griffins. Occasional Orkans. Aphids are there but thankfully not enough to make you uncompetitive if you haven't got any (like me)!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 2:26:04 GMT -5
Started in Bronze l and moved up to Silver lll...Since then I have been getting my teeth kicked in. Went from a win rate of 60% down to 40% in three days. Have probably won 15-20 out of 75-100 matches. Sigh...
Edit: To answer OP, I'm seeing the same things as well.
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kucing
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Get those beacons already...
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Post by kucing on Mar 3, 2017 2:31:39 GMT -5
In Bronze II and Silver II, I see the same in both. However, definitely more pilots who are not aware of beacons in Bronze.
Capping is a very lonely and non paying business in Bronze.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Mar 3, 2017 3:15:20 GMT -5
Believe it or not, diamond III is really not much higher than OP stated Bronze/Silver has...
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[NovR]101Rangers
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Why am I a recruit all over again?
Posts: 97
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Platform: Android
Clan: Nova Rising
League: Master
Server Region: Asia
Favorite robot: Griffin
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Post by [NovR]101Rangers on Mar 3, 2017 4:38:30 GMT -5
Believe it or not, diamond III is really not much higher than OP stated Bronze/Silver hKas... That's surprising indeed. Thanks for sharing! I should add that as rough estimate average damage at Bronze I is about 200-300k and Silver III about 250-350k.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 6:16:28 GMT -5
On iOS, both:
Primary account is in Champion League and 95% games are tough with mostly maxed pilots. Secondary account is in Silver I. I face from level 8 pilots with level 1 cossacks up to a few level 30 pilots with poorly equipped heavies.
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Post by Demosthenes on Mar 3, 2017 7:08:53 GMT -5
Currently slogging through Diamond II on iOS. Challenging and fun - my game has definitely improved. Trying hard to get promoted (not sure why except the Au will be nice, the stat I follow most closely is win %). I put a lot of focus on capping beacons; I am in the minority.
All players are level 30. Average damage over 400k, win percentages all over the place.
Big range in 'bot levels: a few 7s, some 8s, lots of 9s (of course)' some 10s etc - pretty much a bell curve with about 9.5 as the mean, median and mode.
Weapons levels on a similar distribution curve based around 10.
See a few max hangars (usually no more than one per team, can be two, not seen more than that).
Rare to see a 3 'bot hangar; more 5s than 4s.
A few Ag medium 'bots (Boas, the odd Patton and Golem) and plodding heavies (Leo's, Tasha); plenty of Plasmahads, some Garys and Lancelots (50:50 Thunder:Ancile); a dusting of Stalkers; lots of Griffins (even mix of RDB, DB, and Plasma); quite a few Carnages and Furys - MRS predominates - there are more Tridents than Zeus, then Trebs. Still seeing Rogs most games (hurrah!) and the occasional Gepard, but very very rare to see a Cossack.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Mar 3, 2017 7:14:33 GMT -5
Believe it or not, diamond III is really not much higher than OP stated Bronze/Silver hKas... That's surprising indeed. Thanks for sharing! I should add that as rough estimate average damage at Bronze I is about 200-300k and Silver III about 250-350k. I beg to contradict this... surely if I'm diamond 3 at 320k, bronze should be much lower?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 7:37:19 GMT -5
i think Android hangar damage ratings are lower.
I am in Diamond 1 and I see crappy teammates and 12/12 Furies.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Mar 3, 2017 7:41:21 GMT -5
In silver II, I see 6/8 much like my own, with mainly griffins, carnages, and galahads.
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Post by K A Z on Mar 3, 2017 7:51:12 GMT -5
Q: "What Are You Seeing In Your League?" A: "Dead bots...lotsa dead bots"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 11:15:20 GMT -5
Ain't seen the kitchen sink
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Post by hi5 on Mar 3, 2017 11:19:29 GMT -5
My experience seems to change radically based on win rate - I yoyo a lot.
iOS and Diamond 3, and my hanger is a balanced 8-7 bots and weapons, 5 slots. 4 heavies and one (new, level 5) Gala.
When I first placed (middle of the league bar) it was mostly 8-9 bots and weapons. When I win a few in a row (I rarely place highest damage no matter what) and get up to 60%+ I see mostly 11-12 bots and weapons (Lances, Furies, Griffs, Galas, Carnies, and sometimes Butch). I lose enough matches (usually -20 each as low man) to get to 50% win rate and bottom of league bar, then start seeing 8-9 bots again and start back up.
I think if I focused on damage I might even out some or drop down a league, but it's hard to not try everything to win and I tend to learn more this way. For example, if the center beacon on Canyon is a stalemate I'll waddle over to kill the Red. I get killed in the process and my teammate gets the beacon - but it helps get the edge and increases the chance to win. I'll probably be in Diamond 3 for a while but it's ok. Would be nice to just see 9-10s when my win rate gets high vs 11-12 (expert and champion leaguers) but maybe this will come in time. I think I will focus on leveling my weapons higher than bots now and see where that takes me. I had been keeping my bot levels higher but the emphasis on damage has convinced me to change leveling tactics.
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[NovR]101Rangers
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Why am I a recruit all over again?
Posts: 97
Karma: 44
Platform: Android
Clan: Nova Rising
League: Master
Server Region: Asia
Favorite robot: Griffin
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Post by [NovR]101Rangers on Mar 3, 2017 22:29:39 GMT -5
Damage wise, i'm actually hitting much higher numbers switching from 2 Leos + 1 Galajad to 2 Boas + 1 Galahad. Probably more cos the bots fit my playing style better, but its also true with med bots you can get to the fight faster! Especially for big maps. Has a great game yesterday when my team kicked off with 2 Gareths, 1 Stalker, 1 Gepard, 1 Boa (myself) and 1 Leo. It was fast and furious, just the the old Bronze days
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Pateras
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Post by Pateras on Mar 3, 2017 22:41:56 GMT -5
Im in Gold 3 and i see a lot of:
Ancilots Galahads Rhinos Furys Carnages Stalkers Gharets Etc.
Its kind of mixed to be honest.
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Post by Heishiro on Mar 3, 2017 22:47:27 GMT -5
Diamond 1. more and more pilot dont care about beacon
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Post by Vectivus on Mar 4, 2017 1:50:01 GMT -5
Im in Gold 3 and i see a lot of: Ancilots Galahads Rhinos Furys Carnages Stalkers Gharets Etc. Its kind of mixed to be honest. I'm in Silver II, and I see this also. Plenty of Rhinos and Furies. Lancelot is rare, but they appear from time to time. Most hangers have 5 'mechs and are level 30. Mech / weapon level ranges from 6 to 10, with 9 being common. (I have nothing higher than 7, myself.)
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Post by zr on Mar 4, 2017 2:00:52 GMT -5
This!
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[NovR]101Rangers
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Why am I a recruit all over again?
Posts: 97
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Platform: Android
Clan: Nova Rising
League: Master
Server Region: Asia
Favorite robot: Griffin
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Post by [NovR]101Rangers on Mar 4, 2017 2:50:09 GMT -5
That's surprising indeed. Thanks for sharing! I should add that as rough estimate average damage at Bronze I is about 200-300k and Silver III about 250-350k. I beg to contradict this... surely if I'm diamond 3 at 320k, bronze should be much lower? Here's a screenshot from my last Silver III game. I usually average 300-400k nowadays and that's good for mid-table damage wise. I got lucky here
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 2:58:35 GMT -5
I beg to contradict this... surely if I'm diamond 3 at 320k, bronze should be much lower? Here's a screenshot from my last Silver III game. I usually average 300-400k nowadays and that's good for mid-table damage wise. I got lucky here I'm on a one bear crusade to keep pointing out that u guys are on different OS. iOS diamond is equivalent to Android silver. You can't draw placement conclusions across systems.
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Post by Paps on Mar 4, 2017 3:04:07 GMT -5
Android Gold II
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Post by Demosthenes on Mar 4, 2017 4:13:13 GMT -5
I'm on a one bear crusade to keep pointing out that u guys are on different OS. iOS diamond is equivalent to Android silver. You can't draw placement conclusions across systems. I am on iOS. The above is quite a definitive statement, on what evividence is it based?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 4:42:58 GMT -5
I'm on a one bear crusade to keep pointing out that u guys are on different OS. iOS diamond is equivalent to Android silver. You can't draw placement conclusions across systems. I am on iOS. The above is quite a definitive statement, on what evividence is it based? Based on the reports of forum members running level 6/7 gear on iOS, placed on diamond league. On Android, 8/8 gear lands you in silver 1 or gold 3. Hope that helps.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 6:10:46 GMT -5
I am so dazed and confused by it all, I can not give you a definitive answer.
The only way I can describe it , and this in on both platforms is by the 1/3 rule.
1/3 of the time I am matched with lower opposition than me, easy win. Quick match, not much damage, not so many kills, but a win, not much fun either.
1/3 of the time everybody looks to be equally matched, these games are the most fun, win or lose.
1/3 of the time entire opposition is way, way over my league, that's when I cringe and wonder why I have War Robots loaded at all.
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Post by mechtout on Mar 4, 2017 9:32:17 GMT -5
I see players from leagues 2 levels up in diamond. And i dont mean diamond 1, etc, i mean im facing players from masters league
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Pateras
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Pilot name: Pateras
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Favorite robot: Ancilot
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Post by Pateras on Mar 4, 2017 15:48:11 GMT -5
Im in Gold 3 and i see a lot of: Ancilots Galahads Rhinos Furys Carnages Stalkers Gharets Etc. Its kind of mixed to be honest. I'm in Silver II, and I see this also. Plenty of Rhinos and Furies. Lancelot is rare, but they appear from time to time. Most hangers have 5 'mechs and are level 30. Mech / weapon level ranges from 6 to 10, with 9 being common. (I have nothing higher than 7, myself.) Ok all my robots are lvl 9 and all my weapons are lvl 10. Now im saving up for like 200.000.000 so i can upgrade all the weapons to lvl 11.
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Post by zer00eyz on Mar 4, 2017 15:57:58 GMT -5
I am so dazed and confused by it all, I can not give you a definitive answer. The only way I can describe it , and this in on both platforms is by the 1/3 rule. 1/3 of the time I am matched with lower opposition than me, easy win. Quick match, not much damage, not so many kills, but a win, not much fun either. 1/3 of the time everybody looks to be equally matched, these games are the most fun, win or lose. 1/3 of the time entire opposition is way, way over my league, that's when I cringe and wonder why I have War Robots loaded at all. This sounds like you play during a time of day where MM is desperate for players. I know that if I play very late at night my time (pacific) I see this, Mid day and early evening tend to be more balanced. I have had some rather epic fights during the right time of day.
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Post by zer00eyz on Mar 4, 2017 15:59:40 GMT -5
In Bronze II and Silver II, I see the same in both. However, definitely more pilots who are not aware of beacons in Bronze. Capping is a very lonely and non paying business in Bronze. I have been doing well capping in bronze. Depending on my hanger I can finish top damage or top capper. What are you running when you cap in bronze (whats the hanger)
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Pateras
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Posts: 122
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Pilot name: Pateras
Platform: Android
League: Diamond
Server Region: Europe
Favorite robot: Ancilot
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Post by Pateras on Mar 4, 2017 16:26:12 GMT -5
This is my setup in Gold 2 and my Ancil will be lvl 10 in 2 days.
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Post by carnage on Mar 4, 2017 16:55:20 GMT -5
Which platform Pateras ? Just checking on old man's theory.
Your hangar is much better than mine and I am very close to Diamond. My hangar is roughly basic bots level 6 (Leo, Natasha) and weapons level 8.
Most of my opponents have better hangar than me though.
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