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Post by Project Alice on Jan 17, 2019 4:35:37 GMT -5
The moment I saw this beautiful view, I put down my phone and went to bathroom. Took the best dump in 2019.
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Post by milty72 on Jan 17, 2019 5:02:08 GMT -5
I originally saw it as a challenge to work out ways of beating them. And I came so close one game in capturing their side home beacon. But now I'm thinking damn them.... damn them all to hell. If they want silver I'll give them as little as possible and give them one bots worth.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Jan 17, 2019 7:07:17 GMT -5
So somehow their full house trumped your four of a kind?
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Ancient Fart
Destrier
Posts: 18
Karma: 11
Pilot name: ☆ คຖ¢iēຖt fคrt ☆
Platform: Android
Clan: (1KS)
League: Champion
Server Region: North America
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Post by Ancient Fart on Jan 17, 2019 10:33:31 GMT -5
ideal for invader to take a dump on
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Post by Loganspawn on Jan 17, 2019 10:46:45 GMT -5
Should have went right instead of to the bathroom. If they are all at the lower bridge then no one went topside. Go topside and take their home.Get as much damage as you can even when losing as you will still get silver and honor points. Matchmaker is going to 「i want to snuggle you」 when its your turn no matter what anyways. Good luck and happy hunting.
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Post by orionpax on Jan 17, 2019 17:04:28 GMT -5
And they all run their precious god modules!! These guys are weak!
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Post by Project Alice on Jan 17, 2019 17:18:56 GMT -5
So somehow their full house trumped your four of a kind? Man, that's 6 of a kind. It beats royal flush. I wasn't using my hellboys anyway that game. Avoid dropping vs squad really helped me a lot to stay below 5000. Kumi capping is for Honor points.
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Post by hon_shu on Jan 17, 2019 17:19:01 GMT -5
As annoying as the situation is, let's keep in mind that the "death squads" (I'm not in one of them) don't have control over who they are coming up against. What are they supposed to do when being matches with randoms? Play nicely?
If anyone is at fault here, it's .. PIXONIC
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Post by Project Alice on Jan 17, 2019 17:28:41 GMT -5
Should have went right instead of to the bathroom. If they are all at the lower bridge then no one went topside. Go topside and take their home.Get as much damage as you can even when losing as you will still get silver and honor points. Matchmaker is going to ?i want to snuggle you? when its your turn no matter what anyways. Good luck and happy hunting. Yeah, I guess went to bathroom is a mistake. Should went to kitchen get some ice cream on the right side. Anyway, their side beacon was indeed open because they intentionally left it like that to let beacon bar drain slower to buy enough time to gangbang us. I was having the urge to fight back or give up, never thought I could take their beacon. Oh well, I was happy with 6th place, didn't like top 2 lose and still move up.
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Post by RedRaider on Jan 17, 2019 17:31:50 GMT -5
I dont see these on Amazon, however the death squads we do get, maxed hangers X6 on comms against random... I just bail! At that point the "team" is screwed and I will not waste my time and effort fighting a loosing/losing war. I know you purists will condemn me for this action as antiteam work or whatever, but I have been playing long enough to know that I will get negative numbers in this battle, no gold, little silver and 2-3 minutes of my life I can not get back. If you and your clan want to run death squads that overwhelm the reds for an easy win, you will do it without me. I see the reason for squads, I see that the way they are doing it is the way it is to be done, but I just wont be used as a silver farm, not as long as Amazon has no LPQ.
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Post by orionpax on Jan 17, 2019 18:03:37 GMT -5
I dont see these on Amazon, however the death squads we do get, maxed hangers X6 on comms against random... I just bail! At that point the "team" is screwed and I will not waste my time and effort fighting a loosing/losing war. I know you purists will condemn me for this action as antiteam work or whatever, but I have been playing long enough to know that I will get negative numbers in this battle, no gold, little silver and 2-3 minutes of my life I can not get back. If you and your clan want to run death squads that overwhelm the reds for an easy win, you will do it without me. I see the reason for squads, I see that the way they are doing it is the way it is to be done, but I just wont be used as a silver farm, not as long as Amazon has no LPQ. They don’t fool me anymore. I was giving them the benefit of doubt that they don’t enjoy these types of games but not anymore. I see at least 10 death squads a night on iOS at a min and I am convinced by their behavior that they do in fact enjoy these games. It’s farms silver and keeps their clan rankings up. There are a few things these clans can do that have been talked to death about so I won’t rehash them. This game in low champs is becoming unplayable IMHO!!
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Post by RedRaider on Jan 17, 2019 18:23:20 GMT -5
I dont see these on Amazon, however the death squads we do get, maxed hangers X6 on comms against random... I just bail! At that point the "team" is screwed and I will not waste my time and effort fighting a loosing/losing war. I know you purists will condemn me for this action as antiteam work or whatever, but I have been playing long enough to know that I will get negative numbers in this battle, no gold, little silver and 2-3 minutes of my life I can not get back. If you and your clan want to run death squads that overwhelm the reds for an easy win, you will do it without me. I see the reason for squads, I see that the way they are doing it is the way it is to be done, but I just wont be used as a silver farm, not as long as Amazon has no LPQ. They don’t fool me anymore. I was giving them the benefit of doubt that they don’t enjoy these types of games but not anymore. I see at least 10 death squads a night on iOS at a min and I am convinced by their behavior that they do in fact enjoy these games. It’s farms silver and keeps their clan rankings up. There are a few things these clans can do that have been talked to death about so I won’t rehash them. This game in low champs is becoming unplayable IMHO!! Yeah, like I said, I just wont play that match. When I can get a match that is, in general, random vs random, then I play. I am not looking for an advantage over reds, I am just looking for a fun match. there is no fun in being beaten so mercilessly that i would have been better off chewing on a lightbulb.
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Post by bayscout on Jan 17, 2019 18:41:07 GMT -5
And they all run their precious god modules!! These guys are weak! What God modules?
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Post by orionpax on Jan 17, 2019 20:16:04 GMT -5
And they all run their precious god modules!! These guys are weak! What God modules? last stand and battle born. Full maxed and stacked.
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Post by LeaveItForever on Jan 17, 2019 21:21:34 GMT -5
Lol, man, I'm not in Champs but if I was facing that I'd probably quit and start a new match. If everyone did that they would just be stuck restarting new matches, boom, everyone quits, restart...keep them waiting forever to actually get to play. It's what they deserve. HB is a stupid bot and should be deleted. Getting to dash and explode on someone doing huge damage is really 「slow」.
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Post by T34 on Jan 17, 2019 23:04:25 GMT -5
As annoying as the situation is, let's keep in mind that the "death squads" (I'm not in one of them) don't have control over who they are coming up against. What are they supposed to do when being matches with randoms? Play nicely? If anyone is at fault here, it's .. PIXONIC What you are saying is partially correct but its missing one angle. I think a better assessment of the situation would go like this (in summary because I am not following the logical argument to its final point and not exploring all its angles). “Death Squads” are “playing fairly”. Such behaviour is as per game design intent (intentional or otherwise). Several aspects of the game design allow for such behaviour and even encourage it. If they are playing as per design intent then they are “playing fairly”. And since they are doing it over and over again they are receiving a positive benefit from such practice in return for which they pay Pix…….. However, the outcome is “undeserved” for the player on the receiving end despite fair play on the “death squad’s members part . The player on the receiving end has no obligation to participate (but are threatened against opting out by such things as the LPQ). Especially in an activity that is “supposed to be”/”sold as” a highly competitive online game. The best way to counter such game design and practices is by not participating because it removes the benefit from the “death squads” which in turn will force Pix to take corrective action. Death squads are complicit in the outcomes. Pix designed the game to cater for death squads. Deaths squads filled the role and play and pay Pix. Therefore they are complicit.
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Post by orionpax on Jan 17, 2019 23:29:49 GMT -5
As annoying as the situation is, let's keep in mind that the "death squads" (I'm not in one of them) don't have control over who they are coming up against. What are they supposed to do when being matches with randoms? Play nicely? If anyone is at fault here, it's .. PIXONIC What you are saying is partially correct but its missing one angle. I think a better assessment of the situation would go like this (in summary because I am not following the logical argument to its final point and not exploring all its angles). “Death Squads” are “playing fairly”. Such behaviour is as per game design intent (intentional or otherwise). Several aspects of the game design allow for such behaviour and even encourage it. If they are playing as per design intent then they are “playing fairly”. And since they are doing it over and over again they are receiving a positive benefit from such practice in return for which they pay Pix…….. However, the outcome is “undeserved” for the player on the receiving end despite fair play on the “death squad’s members part . The player on the receiving end has no obligation to participate (but are threatened against opting out by such things as the LPQ). Especially in an activity that is “supposed to be”/”sold as” a highly competitive online game. The best way to counter such game design and practices is by not participating because it removes the benefit from the “death squads” which in turn will force Pix to take corrective action. Death squads are complicit in the outcomes. Pix designed the game to cater for death squads. Deaths squads filled the role and play and pay Pix. Therefore they are complicit. . You are 100% right. I had a really bad night last night. One of the worst nights I have had playing this game. But now that I have had some time to think it over I should be pissed at the match making and not the players. While I disagree with how this is allowed it is not their fault it’s the match making. I have level 9 bots with level 8-10 weapons running no boosters going against mk4 clans! It’s just dumbfounding. Edit: I usually run solo 99% of the time Since most of my clan stays in low masters. When they run together they do really well. Throw me in their team and it’s just garbage . 5 blues with 5,000 cup or under pilots going against 5. 10,000+ Fully boosted/ module clans is a joke.
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Post by bronzeknee on Jan 17, 2019 23:31:26 GMT -5
As annoying as the situation is, let's keep in mind that the "death squads" (I'm not in one of them) don't have control over who they are coming up against. What are they supposed to do when being matches with randoms? Play nicely? If anyone is at fault here, it's .. PIXONIC Absolutely. But just as we shouldn't blame the death squads, don't blame people who don't drop versus the death squads.
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Post by linearblade on Jan 18, 2019 0:15:21 GMT -5
Should have went right instead of to the bathroom. If they are all at the lower bridge then no one went topside. Go topside and take their home.Get as much damage as you can even when losing as you will still get silver and honor points. Matchmaker is going to ?i want to snuggle you? when its your turn no matter what anyways. Good luck and happy hunting. I’ve done this with an invader, on this map. Numerous times. I’ve even done it with a speed boosted raijin. Because they (top squads) are that lazy.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 18, 2019 15:02:22 GMT -5
And it will keep evolving as more stuff hits...
https://www.reddit.com/r/walkingwarrobots/comments/ahe1wr/last_stand_has_got_to_go/
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Post by hon_shu on Jan 18, 2019 15:27:51 GMT -5
As annoying as the situation is, let's keep in mind that the "death squads" (I'm not in one of them) don't have control over who they are coming up against. What are they supposed to do when being matches with randoms? Play nicely? If anyone is at fault here, it's .. PIXONIC What you are saying is partially correct but its missing one angle. I think a better assessment of the situation would go like this (in summary because I am not following the logical argument to its final point and not exploring all its angles). “Death Squads” are “playing fairly”. Such behaviour is as per game design intent (intentional or otherwise). Several aspects of the game design allow for such behaviour and even encourage it. If they are playing as per design intent then they are “playing fairly”. And since they are doing it over and over again they are receiving a positive benefit from such practice in return for which they pay Pix…….. However, the outcome is “undeserved” for the player on the receiving end despite fair play on the “death squad’s members part . The player on the receiving end has no obligation to participate (but are threatened against opting out by such things as the LPQ). Especially in an activity that is “supposed to be”/”sold as” a highly competitive online game. The best way to counter such game design and practices is by not participating because it removes the benefit from the “death squads” which in turn will force Pix to take corrective action. Death squads are complicit in the outcomes. Pix designed the game to cater for death squads. Deaths squads filled the role and play and pay Pix. Therefore they are complicit. You are implying that death squads are formed for the purpose of milking randoms for silver. Maybe that's a part of it, I wouldn't know because I never played in one. But what are high-level clans that like to squad supposed to do otherwise? Not squad? Run custom matches that would mean extra organizational overhead and no rewards? It seems perfectly fine for me that they fight in squads and expect to be adequately matched. Pixonic is clearly at fault here. With the introduction of the clan rating system they would have everything they needed to do better. If increasing MM wait times while decreasing Ag payout for their top spenders is in their business interest .. so you kind of have a point but I still don't see what the "death squads" should do differently. BTW: I'm fully onboard with the OP's dump premise .. if you don't want to play against them, don't.
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Post by orionpax on Jan 18, 2019 18:15:32 GMT -5
What you are saying is partially correct but its missing one angle. I think a better assessment of the situation would go like this (in summary because I am not following the logical argument to its final point and not exploring all its angles). “Death Squads” are “playing fairly”. Such behaviour is as per game design intent (intentional or otherwise). Several aspects of the game design allow for such behaviour and even encourage it. If they are playing as per design intent then they are “playing fairly”. And since they are doing it over and over again they are receiving a positive benefit from such practice in return for which they pay Pix…….. However, the outcome is “undeserved” for the player on the receiving end despite fair play on the “death squad’s members part . The player on the receiving end has no obligation to participate (but are threatened against opting out by such things as the LPQ). Especially in an activity that is “supposed to be”/”sold as” a highly competitive online game. The best way to counter such game design and practices is by not participating because it removes the benefit from the “death squads” which in turn will force Pix to take corrective action. Death squads are complicit in the outcomes. Pix designed the game to cater for death squads. Deaths squads filled the role and play and pay Pix. Therefore they are complicit. You are implying that death squads are formed for the purpose of milking randoms for silver. Maybe that's a part of it, I wouldn't know because I never played in one. But what are high-level clans that like to squad supposed to do otherwise? Not squad? Run custom matches that would mean extra organizational overhead and no rewards? It seems perfectly fine for me that they fight in squads and expect to be adequately matched. Pixonic is clearly at fault here. With the introduction of the clan rating system they would have everything they needed to do better. If increasing MM wait times while decreasing Ag payout for their top spenders is in their business interest .. so you kind of have a point but I still don't see what the "death squads" should do differently. BTW: I'm fully onboard with the OP's dump premise .. if you don't want to play against them, don't. . May I ask why you think it’s dumb not to play against them?
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Post by alphaomega001 on Jan 18, 2019 19:33:01 GMT -5
Can anyone put out a list of these so called death squads??Ive been in a clan for a long time and weâve busted our tails though the years weâve played to acquire our gear.You can't just start playing and be a GOD unless youâve clearly paid for it .But thereâs also no reason after a battle that you start a squad yourself and pick up good players as you battle.Also a little tip you can wait and see who drops and take a note. If eggbots your gonna wanna start w orks and or something w lockdown.But yes i also agree running eggbots w laststand are 「kitty cats」.Especially a whole squad.
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Post by hon_shu on Jan 19, 2019 5:30:03 GMT -5
You are implying that death squads are formed for the purpose of milking randoms for silver. Maybe that's a part of it, I wouldn't know because I never played in one. But what are high-level clans that like to squad supposed to do otherwise? Not squad? Run custom matches that would mean extra organizational overhead and no rewards? It seems perfectly fine for me that they fight in squads and expect to be adequately matched. Pixonic is clearly at fault here. With the introduction of the clan rating system they would have everything they needed to do better. If increasing MM wait times while decreasing Ag payout for their top spenders is in their business interest .. so you kind of have a point but I still don't see what the "death squads" should do differently. BTW: I'm fully onboard with the OP's dump premise .. if you don't want to play against them, don't. . May I ask why you think it’s dumb not to play against them? dump .. not dumb.
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Post by T34 on Jan 19, 2019 6:27:52 GMT -5
What you are saying is partially correct but its missing one angle. I think a better assessment of the situation would go like this (in summary because I am not following the logical argument to its final point and not exploring all its angles). “Death Squads” are “playing fairly”. Such behaviour is as per game design intent (intentional or otherwise). Several aspects of the game design allow for such behaviour and even encourage it. If they are playing as per design intent then they are “playing fairly”. And since they are doing it over and over again they are receiving a positive benefit from such practice in return for which they pay Pix…….. However, the outcome is “undeserved” for the player on the receiving end despite fair play on the “death squad’s members part . The player on the receiving end has no obligation to participate (but are threatened against opting out by such things as the LPQ). Especially in an activity that is “supposed to be”/”sold as” a highly competitive online game. The best way to counter such game design and practices is by not participating because it removes the benefit from the “death squads” which in turn will force Pix to take corrective action. Death squads are complicit in the outcomes. Pix designed the game to cater for death squads. Deaths squads filled the role and play and pay Pix. Therefore they are complicit. You are implying that death squads are formed for the purpose of milking randoms for silver. Maybe that's a part of it, I wouldn't know because I never played in one. But what are high-level clans that like to squad supposed to do otherwise? Not squad? Run custom matches that would mean extra organizational overhead and no rewards? It seems perfectly fine for me that they fight in squads and expect to be adequately matched. Pixonic is clearly at fault here. With the introduction of the clan rating system they would have everything they needed to do better. If increasing MM wait times while decreasing Ag payout for their top spenders is in their business interest .. so you kind of have a point but I still don't see what the "death squads" should do differently. BTW: I'm fully onboard with the OP's dump premise .. if you don't want to play against them, don't. I think you sort of missed my point. But honestly it is not worth taking it any further as it won’t make any difference.
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Post by I pooped today on Jan 19, 2019 10:04:16 GMT -5
I absolutely refuse to give them more than my first bot. Nobody tells you when you get to champion league death squads make up 70 % of the matches.
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Post by bigdopep on Jan 19, 2019 10:17:17 GMT -5
As annoying as the situation is, let's keep in mind that the "death squads" (I'm not in one of them) don't have control over who they are coming up against. What are they supposed to do when being matches with randoms? Play nicely? If anyone is at fault here, it's .. PIXONIC They do have control on how much they spend and which bots they use in a match. But they like the power so much that they drop loads of cash on the game so they can drop their op bots with op modules to pound on the ftp’s.
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Post by rbarthle17 on Jan 24, 2019 12:42:46 GMT -5
Just remember that if you choose to leave the game, you risk going in the LPQ. It's not worth that risk.
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Post by rbarthle17 on Jan 24, 2019 12:45:26 GMT -5
I absolutely refuse to give them more than my first bot. Nobody tells you when you get to champion league death squads make up 70 % of the matches. Depends on what time of day you play. I am on iOS and I rarely if ever see a death squad before the evening time. And even then it's maybe 20% of the time. And yes I am in Champions League. One thing I do though is after running into one, I take a break from Quick Match/BR and go into either TDM or FFA for a round. What happens is that sometimes you get cycled in with the same squad over and over so you have to break that cycle.
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Post by protectionoffsafety on Jan 24, 2019 17:59:41 GMT -5
I absolutely refuse to give them more than my first bot. Nobody tells you when you get to champion league death squads make up 70 % of the matches. Depends on what time of day you play. I am on iOS and I rarely if ever see a death squad before the evening time. And even then it's maybe 20% of the time. And yes I am in Champions League. One thing I do though is after running into one, I take a break from Quick Match/BR and go into either TDM or FFA for a round. What happens is that sometimes you get cycled in with the same squad over and over so you have to break that cycle. Do you squad or go solo? Play in a squad with 4 or more members with one ranked a champ so you can experience these squads.
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