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Post by nocluevok on Feb 27, 2017 19:14:08 GMT -5
Haven't used it yet, but here's the question...
Is a lvl 6 thunder/lvl 6 pinata lvl 6 Leo better than a lvl 6 mag/ taran plasmahad?
Almost afraid to try the plasmahad and lose damage points or a match.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 19:16:09 GMT -5
Those two bots are entirely different and has to be played with different styles. I will most certainly say that I prefer a Plasma Galahad more than the Pinata Leo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 19:19:35 GMT -5
Also prefer Galahad to Leo. The trick to Plasma Galahad is to not let Orkan/Pinata/Thunder bots close with the 300m range from you if you can help it. If you stay between 350-300m, you will crush Griffins and Leos, etc.
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Post by mijapi300 on Feb 27, 2017 19:19:49 GMT -5
I agree with Darkangel. It will definitely take some getting used to. First tip would be to practice walking sideways, so you can take advantage of the shield without losing speed when trying to get from one place to the next. Another big one is corner shooting. Use corners to protect your body. The side placement of the weapons make this a great tool.
Once you're used to the Plasmahad, Leo won't stand a chance. You can face off 1v1 with a Leo and just thank them for the 150k damage they just donated.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 19:22:00 GMT -5
Also prefer Galahad to Leo. The trick to Plasma Galahad is to not let Orkan/Pinata/Thunder bots close with the 300m range from you if you can help it. If you stay between 350-300m, you will crush Griffins and Leos, etc. There is also a trick where you bait the Death Button setup to expose themselves while hovering around the 220-250m range and then backpedaling all the orkan rockets resulting in a damaged enemy. I would not suggest you try that until you get proficient with backpedaling.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 19:22:53 GMT -5
Galahads are cool. I have one on both platforms. They serve a purpose I have need for. It does take a while to get used to them and how to use the shield properly. Ever run backwards on a map to get to a beacon. Imagine shield out protecting you from a hit by trebuchets and you moving at top speed. On iOS I use an orkan and 2 magnums, on Android I use Taran and magnums. Try to get up to lvl 9 as soon as possible. That is max speed. Then learn how to drive one. I have seen them with Orkan's and Piñata also.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 19:24:42 GMT -5
Also prefer Galahad to Leo. The trick to Plasma Galahad is to not let Orkan/Pinata/Thunder bots close with the 300m range from you if you can help it. If you stay between 350-300m, you will crush Griffins and Leos, etc. There is also a trick where you bait the Death Button setup to expose themselves while hovering around the 220-250m range and then backpedaling all the orkan rockets resulting in a damaged enemy. I would not suggest you try that until you get proficient with backpedaling. Great point, but the backpedal becomes most effective at level 8/9 galahad, yes? At level >7, OPs galahad may not escape the rockets.
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Post by nocluevok on Feb 27, 2017 19:27:10 GMT -5
Those two bots are entirely different and has to be played with different styles. I will most certainly say that I prefer a Plasma Galahad more than the Pinata Leo. I had a Gareth on my old account. Loved it. That's why I got the Galahad to play with because it is a bit tougher. At what lvl do they stop being squishy...relatively speaking.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 19:29:02 GMT -5
nocluevok for me on iOS level 11. On Android level 9.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 19:30:48 GMT -5
There is also a trick where you bait the Death Button setup to expose themselves while hovering around the 220-250m range and then backpedaling all the orkan rockets resulting in a damaged enemy. I would not suggest you try that until you get proficient with backpedaling. Great point, but the backpedal becomes most effective at level 8/9 galahad, yes? At level >7, OPs galahad may not escape the rockets. No, I was able to backpedal with my level 6 Galahads. You are able to backpedal at 200m+ with a level 9+ Galahad.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 19:33:41 GMT -5
Great point, but the backpedal becomes most effective at level 8/9 galahad, yes? At level >7, OPs galahad may not escape the rockets. No, I was able to backpedal with my level 6 Galahads. You are able to backpedal at 200m+ with a level 9+ Galahad. Good tip then, thanks! My Galahad doesn't work out as much as yours though. He had a little Galahad beer gut thing going, and so he had trouble with the running from rockets thing.
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Post by Blurred Vision on Feb 27, 2017 19:59:01 GMT -5
I was almost frustrated with the Galahad at 6; it was more fragile than I expected. At 7 I was happy and at 9 (max speed) I run 2 and love 'em. Takes practice to corner shoot well but that's another ability to maximize, like the back pedal.
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Post by amoebastudios on Feb 27, 2017 20:10:32 GMT -5
My plasmahad eat Leo all day long, including the plasma grif around the next corner as well.
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Post by [apotheosis] on Feb 27, 2017 20:29:01 GMT -5
Its been said a million times but Plasmahad is one of the best bots in the entire game. Once you become proficient at piloting it you will be responding the same way in threads like this.
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Post by nocluevok on Feb 27, 2017 20:30:46 GMT -5
nocluevok for me on iOS level 11. On Android level 9. Took it out for a test drive or 3. Won 2 of 3, came in 1st on the loss. At the very least I didn't embarrass myself.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 23:24:01 GMT -5
The plasmahad is sweet, 3 are even better
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Post by moody on Feb 27, 2017 23:44:48 GMT -5
Galahads are cool. I have one on both platforms. They serve a purpose I have need for. It does take a while to get used to them and how to use the shield properly. Ever run backwards on a map to get to a beacon. Imagine shield out protecting you from a hit by trebuchets and you moving at top speed. On iOS I use an orkan and 2 magnums, on Android I use Taran and magnums. Try to get up to lvl 9 as soon as possible. That is max speed. Then learn how to drive one. I have seen them with Orkan's and Piñata also. I still love that I did a backwards run down the length of Canyon. From the City spawn opposite the farm to the Dam beacon.
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Post by moody on Feb 27, 2017 23:54:13 GMT -5
Great point, but the backpedal becomes most effective at level 8/9 galahad, yes? At level >7, OPs galahad may not escape the rockets. No, I was able to backpedal with my level 6 Galahads. You are able to backpedal at 200m+ with a level 9+ Galahad. Maybe I didn't keep them at that level long enough but I didn't feel like I had the speed for that. 7-8 gave a bit more speed. Still have to get mine to 9. I have just come full circle with both my Galahads coming back to plasma, having been ork pinata, ork aphid, Taran aphid, ork magnum and even ork pin - which was surprisingly effective.
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Post by frunobulax on Feb 28, 2017 7:28:54 GMT -5
The plasmahad is sweet, 3 are even better I would consider a second if I had 6 slots I ran two Plasmaheads for a long time, but upgraded one to a Taran Ancilot. Two plasma robots seem to be sufficient at least in what used to be high silver, then two DB robots and a mid ranger. A third Plasmahad would be too restricting.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 12:38:46 GMT -5
Ah, high silver, I miss the diversity
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Feb 28, 2017 13:22:32 GMT -5
I use both. Thunder/Pinata Leo and full plasma Galahad. They are both nice to play, but you need to keep in mind, they serve very different purposes. The Leo is very good in tight spots, like Dead City and the outskirts of Shenzhen. Strafe around a corner, hit your target with a full volley of rockets and finish him with your Thunder. That is the Leo for you. Ambush is his middle name.
The Galahad is the 'Jack of all trades'. Beacon capping? Not as good as the light bots, but he gets the job done. Holding beacons? Prefer Rhino for that, but he gets the job done. Flanking and harassing the rear lines? I prefer the Gareth, but he gets the job done. Ambushing? Leo! But the Galahad gets the job done. On top of that is one great fact about the Galahad: He is probably the best robot when it comes to corner shooting. All of his weapons are on the right side. That means, all weapons can shoot around the said corner.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 15:46:44 GMT -5
All of his weapons are on the right side. ...but I need to use the left side!! Gimped 「bum-bum」 bot! *waves hand* You do not see those two in my hangar. Those are not the bots you're looking for..
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Post by crave1ne on Feb 28, 2017 16:00:20 GMT -5
I have two Galahads. One running full plasma, the other was running DB, Hellfire, and now Plasma as well. Best advice I was given. START PLAYING IT NOW!! While its leveling up. You won't last very long with level 1-5. It REALLY starts to shine at lvl 8, and 9 is maxed speed. I have one at lvl 8 and the other at lvl 7. The lvl 7 is next for an upgrade. And its also running a new lvl 5 Taran, and lvl 6mags. It STILL kicks 「bum-bum」! Start using it now while its still alittle slow, it will teach you how to use it. Its a whole new animal, and can play many different roles... Enjoy!
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Post by crave1ne on Feb 28, 2017 16:07:57 GMT -5
Also want to mention, my lvl 7 can still side-step trident fire... honestly, just get it up to lvl 8 and weapons at 8 at least ASAP. Once I;m finished leveling the rest of my bots and a few more weapons, I'm going back to lvl both Galahad's to 9.
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Post by moody on Feb 28, 2017 16:22:57 GMT -5
Who here would spend 5000au on a left handed galahad?
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Post by ogpondskum on Feb 28, 2017 16:33:28 GMT -5
I love my Plasmahads and I have three of them at level 9. However, with the new Leagues, I've not been able to get the damage with them that I get with my Rhinos or Lancelots. I'll admit, I'm more of an aggressive player so I'll charge into some situations with my Plasmahads that are fine for a Lance or Rhino but not for a Plasmahad. The moral of the story here is you have to change your play style with the Plasmahads. It's a great versitle bot but you need to understand what you are up against. An Ancilot will survive a full blast from a DB Rhino and can move in for the kill, a Plasmahads shield will melt like butter and the bot will follow quickly. I've been on both sides of that fight
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Post by SlowReflexes on Feb 28, 2017 17:15:08 GMT -5
I love my Plasmahads and I have three of them at level 9. However, with the new Leagues, I've not been able to get the damage with them that I get with my Rhinos or Lancelots. I'll admit, I'm more of an aggressive player so I'll charge into some situations with my Plasmahads that are fine for a Lance or Rhino but not for a Plasmahad. The moral of the story here is you have to change your play style with the Plasmahads. It's a great versitle bot but you need to understand what you are up against. An Ancilot will survive a full blast from a DB Rhino and can move in for the kill, a Plasmahads shield will melt like butter and the bot will follow quickly. I've been on both sides of that fight I run 2 plasma Galahads at all times, no matter how I change my hangar around. They're great. I love the versatility. But you need to play it a little patiently - it's not a tank, it doesn't do damage in big ripped chunks.... It wears the enemy down. It tends not to miss and it's fast enough to set the range against most opponents. And if they let you corner shoot, they'll *never* kill you - you can hold off and kill entire waves of heavies by yourself if they let you corner shoot them.
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Post by crave1ne on Feb 28, 2017 18:04:10 GMT -5
I love my Plasmahads and I have three of them at level 9. However, with the new Leagues, I've not been able to get the damage with them that I get with my Rhinos or Lancelots. I'll admit, I'm more of an aggressive player so I'll charge into some situations with my Plasmahads that are fine for a Lance or Rhino but not for a Plasmahad. The moral of the story here is you have to change your play style with the Plasmahads. It's a great versitle bot but you need to understand what you are up against. An Ancilot will survive a full blast from a DB Rhino and can move in for the kill, a Plasmahads shield will melt like butter and the bot will follow quickly. I've been on both sides of that fight I run 2 plasma Galahads at all times, no matter how I change my hangar around. They're great. I love the versatility. But you need to play it a little patiently - it's not a tank, it doesn't do damage in big ripped chunks.... It wears the enemy down. It tends not to miss and it's fast enough to set the range against most opponents. And if they let you corner shoot, they'll *never* kill you - you can hold off and kill entire waves of heavies by yourself if they let you corner shoot them. This is SO true! corner shoot for the win! can take out plasma griffin's, plasma leo's, and thunder carnage...
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Post by SlowReflexes on Feb 28, 2017 18:17:07 GMT -5
I run 2 plasma Galahads at all times, no matter how I change my hangar around. They're great. I love the versatility. But you need to play it a little patiently - it's not a tank, it doesn't do damage in big ripped chunks.... It wears the enemy down. It tends not to miss and it's fast enough to set the range against most opponents. And if they let you corner shoot, they'll *never* kill you - you can hold off and kill entire waves of heavies by yourself if they let you corner shoot them. This is SO true! corner shoot for the win! can take out plasma griffin's, plasma leo's, and thunder carnage... I've killed Taran Ancilots one on one by corner shooting. Took a while, but was easy. I've had time to break Raijin shields by corner shooting. It's funny because the only bot I ever really tried hard to corner shoot in before was the Cossack and I was really bad at it. My theory is because I'm not left handed.
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Post by crave1ne on Feb 28, 2017 18:24:27 GMT -5
This is SO true! corner shoot for the win! can take out plasma griffin's, plasma leo's, and thunder carnage... I've killed Taran Ancilots one on one by corner shooting. Took a while, but was easy. I've had time to break Raijin shields by corner shooting. It's funny because the only bot I ever really tried hard to corner shoot in before was the Cossack and I was really bad at it. My theory is because I'm not left handed. My favorite bot in the lower tiers was the Boa. Corner shooting became instinct. With the Galahad, you can rely on corner shooting for sure. I do however enjoy the thunder Carnage guys that come running up on you guns blazing. the shield seems to take little if no damage at all from them. And you can blast plasma away. Ive taken them out in a few seconds, depends on their level of course. I do like that you mention a Anilot, and how it can take a while. Some of the bots you just chip away at. Idk how many times ive corner shot, chipping away at a plasma griffin, only to have them come running at me from spawn dead set on destroying my Galahad. And they do sometimes. I still laugh that it takes them running a griffin, and some other rocket team mates to slow me down enough for them to come charging and take credit for defeating the Gala.
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