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Post by oooohmyyy on Dec 6, 2018 13:06:59 GMT -5
Meta and meta switch, resources nerfs and all the unwanted changes, many many months if not yet years have passionate War Robots fans been suggesting, complaining and disappointed by the more and more steep irreversible decline of the value and mobile gaming passion this game has to offer.
I think guys just dont see there's a world out there ouside of War Robots. Real life of course for one aspect, when you want to take your stress out just read some books and watch some TV or YouTube etc.. But there is also a whole lot out there in the world of mobile gaming other than War Robots, many games are far superior to War Robots in a competitiveness perspective. Things like PUBG, Vainglory, Battle Bay etc.(examples of 3 different categories).
My point is it's really very toxic if you force yourself to be frustrated with the game and yet still want to hold on to it no matter what, games are supposed to be fun, not suffocating masochistic pains, so the suggestion would be, take a few days off the game completely, find something else to do that is relaxing or gamewise, entertaining or even thrill-driving if you are in War Robots for the thrill of competitiveness. Explore and Experiment a little, then come back to the game, compare the feelings you have before and after, then choose the optimal solution knowing whether or not you should be frustrated with the game is ultimately the choice of your own.
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 6, 2018 13:15:58 GMT -5
Bottom line, don't get stressed by the game. Stop coveting things that are being offered for more resources than you have, whether virtual or RM. It's just a game. Play it for fun not frustration - even though the two go hand in hand.
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Post by oooohmyyy on Dec 6, 2018 13:32:18 GMT -5
Bottom line, don't get stressed by the game. Stop coveting things that are being offered for more resources than you have, whether virtual or RM. It's just a game. Play it for fun not frustration - even though the two go hand in hand. I agree with your first point, being a whale or a dolphin is not the issue, as long as you know that you won't regret wasting your time and real life resources for the investment in this game later on. But I doubt the saying: Frustration and Fun go hand in hand. Unless you are a mentally masochistic person who likes to find joy from physical or mental self tortures, fun and frustration or stress are like exactly the opposite things, what you find fun in a subject is almost never the part in the same thing where you find yourself frustrated with. Find a magnifying lens and look real closely, and you'll eventually figure out the part you think is fun and seek for something else that also has the similar fun part. For example, if you think of the online PvP feature is what makes this game fun then go find some other games that also have the same feature, if you find the heavy p2w part of this game to be the reason for your frustration then avoid the games that are similar in this p2w perspective, I.e. e-sports, f2p etc., and at the same time they can still have the PvP or fun part of the characteristic. Thinking fun and frustration are the same thing and you have to gain both or none is an illusion, like I said, observe real closer and you will be able to extract the fun part and avoid the dull part. |
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Post by bravex on Dec 6, 2018 13:32:51 GMT -5
I've never been frustrated with the game although the Supply Line nerf comes pretty close to doing that.
Meta shifts are inevitable in long running games. How else is Pix going to sell new gear?
Weapon and bot nerfs are not so inevitable. New gear should sell itself. If you have to nerf old stuff to make the new stuff look good you're doing something wrong.
I try to take one or two mental health days a week and leave the game alone to focus on real world enjoyments. Not because I'm frustrated or because of the toxic environment but because I recognize I'm addicted to the game and I don't want it to entirely take over my life.
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Post by k5aid on Dec 6, 2018 13:33:56 GMT -5
My game spending is down, I am calmer. I read more. Since Pix has taken everything from us, my desire to play has diminished. I noticed that the clan I belong to has not been active. Out of sight, out of mind is a good strategy to overcome this addiction.
War Robots can become an addiction very quickly, without realizing it. It has for me. Thankfully Pixonic is destroying its own player base by ruining the game. It certainly will lose me. My mind is made up. I don't see me playing in a month or so as I wean my self off the game. Folks this is a
Blessing in disguise! Take this opportunity and make something happen good in your life, or more importantly someone else's life! Your child or your spouse's life. Throw off the shackles of Pixonic oppression! Don't feed the beast!
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Post by thorloki on Dec 6, 2018 15:01:58 GMT -5
As someone who quit playing War Robots after spending money and has come back... I will genuinely say War Robots is most certainly a ftp game compared to other games (not robot games though) I've played since 2017. Sure, those game give away more daily rewards for free, but they're seriously p2w in different ways, and big spenders can even be permnantly banned for requesting one refund because of zero-refund policies. "Whales" are banned for using obscene languages in chat if they're reported by lots of players. Those games are never in the top grossing games on Google Play though because they don't give special treatment to big spenders. Pixonic does, which I like, because a big spender should never be banned unless they use hacks. In War Robots, big spenders can be avoided for the most part. They play one game mode... Beacon Rush. In other games, big spenders can visit lower level players in the lower areas of the game and harass them with no mercy unless the game implements a feature so that you can't attack anyone 100+ levels below/above you in pvp.
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Post by thorloki on Dec 6, 2018 15:05:48 GMT -5
So yeah I'm frustrated with the unnecessary boycotts of Pixonic. This game is far from p2w. You just have to settle into a league you can win in easily without spending money.
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Post by nightmarepatrol on Dec 6, 2018 17:04:29 GMT -5
There have been a lot of changes over time. I go back to the pre-wild west bot days. I'm closing in of 5000 victories. Yes, things have changed a bunch since I first got here. Are they better now? I dunno, the game is certainly more complicated and the monetary system has been overhauled to the point where spending real money is not a last resort or "get-me-there-a-little-quicker" thing, but something Pix wants to herd everyone toward to.
The player base has changed a lot too. The newer players seem to have no aversion to spending actual cash. That explains some of the people I seen with 500 victories running 12/12 hangers playing in the expert league. I have no plans to spend cash on the game now or any time in the future.
A friend once said "No expectations... no disappointments." I guess I should adopt that here.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 6, 2018 17:33:05 GMT -5
So yeah I'm frustrated with the unnecessary boycotts of Pixonic. This game is far from p2w. You just have to settle into a league you can win in easily without spending money. You outline the game's monetization from an interesting PoV in the post before this ^.
However, most of the hate and discontent have been born from the players who knew and loved the game before it was monetized. We liked almost everything about that game. Even if someone came along in 2017, like you, and they were exposed to the opinions and videos of players from before, the general idea of "it was better before fail.fu" is prevalent.
What we have now is NOT the same game. Peeps absolutely LOVED the game that it was and, just like with anything that you love, it's hard to let it go even when it changes from that which made you love it into that which makes you snarl.
I hesitate a little to make this comparison, but to some degree, it fits: It's like an abusive relationship. There is always an abuser that takes advantage of the abusee. The abusee typically knows they are being abused, and hates it, but love of the abuser keeps them from just cutting ties and bailing (this is a simple illustration, so please don't take it too seriously).
As far as the boycotts... I don't hate them... but I don't think they will matter one iota. What is it that Pix is supposed to do? Revert back to pre-DIESS days? Just stop/nerf modules? What is the boycott supposed to do? They don't listen to us and they never will. Even if they do change 1 thing if a miraculously large boycott does occur... as we have recently seen, they are bound to go back on their word as soon as they think they can get away with it.
Anyway... yeah, I get your point... but you have to understand the salt on this (and other) sites is because fun is no longer the point of the game. Squeezing money out of whatever they can has taken precedence with the Devs' intentions and we are left squeezing the fun out of it however we can (ahem... 6pack). And it's obvious.
But, as always, this is just IMO, YMMV.
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Post by WE034 on Dec 6, 2018 17:49:29 GMT -5
There have been a lot of changes over time. I go back to the pre-wild west bot days. I'm closing in of 5000 victories. Yes, things have changed a bunch since I first got here. Are they better now? I dunno, the game is certainly more complicated and the monetary system has been overhauled to the point where spending real money is not a last resort or "get-me-there-a-little-quicker" thing, but something Pix wants to herd everyone toward to. The player base has changed a lot too. The newer players seem to have no aversion to spending actual cash. That explains some of the people I seen with 500 victories running 12/12 hangers playing in the expert league. I have no plans to spend cash on the game now or any time in the future. A friend once said "No expectations... no disappointments." I guess I should adopt that here. You have been around a long time. Back to when this board first went up. Things have changed and the community as well... A lot... i never was a diehard, nor a big spender. Have too many other expensive hobbies and I’m old so. I don’t regret the 100 dollars I’ve spent over the last couple years, but my level of enjoyment from playing dropped off recently and taking a break before it stops being really not fun. My my heart breaks to think of the frustration and loss some are feeling right now. I know I’m missing the fun I used to have duking it out. BoT is good and I’m having fun, but it still growing. And it’s a different experience all together. But then again I’m new back to gaming. The last video game I played with any regularity before War Robots was Iron Tank on the NES a lifetime ago. |
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Post by nightmarepatrol on Dec 6, 2018 19:03:01 GMT -5
I was actually going to host this board on my server, but then the founder dropped in here and that was it. Yeah, I go back to the wiki days.
War Robots is the only game I play. I don't have time for much else.
It's the same game... but different now. It is what it is. It's free if you want it to be. If you spend actual money, then you can have a legitimate gripes. I use it for free, just like faceytweet. If faceytweet has problems... I'm not out anything. It's disappointing, but well... Zuckerbug... meh.
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Post by anjian on Dec 7, 2018 5:31:41 GMT -5
Not as frustrated on this game but its the direction that is heading into, some dark and darker territory that it should not be.
I won't say not as frustrated, but frustration does exist and quite heavy in fact, but more of the fact that the game seems less and less fun, less and less addicting and gives me less reasons to pick up and play, while giving more reasons to shut it down, play other games instead or just watch YouTube.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 7:21:51 GMT -5
The game is still good. I like the friends that I've made in the last 12 months of playing the game, and have a lot of great memories in squad with them.
Stupid blues annoy me, for example, the ones that drop slow bots first drop in BR, while I'm burning a trail to center.
Pixonic's business practices are off the charts, but I'm not sure if frustration is the right word, as I gave up caring about this game on 5 July 2018.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 7:26:40 GMT -5
The economy and cost model is imbalanced. I like spending money on games, and I want to spend money on this game but I don't see it as worthwhile right now.
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Post by thorloki on Dec 7, 2018 8:21:13 GMT -5
Few things in War Robots are static... This game is too dynamic. Even "legacy" bots (Boa and Golem) with no special abilities aren't exempt from being changed for no damn reason. How many players want to use a bot that does nothing special in 2019?
Well, with that in mind... I say to you just roll with the punches. Pixonic reacts to how Champs exploit everything. Maybe Pixonic didn't predict that clan squads would use Hellburners to spawn raid in BR... Or use 4 Orkans on Spectre. So how do they balance a bot or weapon based on how a solo free player uses it and how a big spender in a squad uses it? For the Spectre, the game recommended setups are 4 Shocktrains or Scourges... Not 4 Orkans nor 4 Tarans nor 4 Tulus. What if people played with the game recommended setups instead of setups that are OP? Nerfs probably wouldn't be so game changing if Champs kept battles balanced themselves.
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Post by kukurukukuk on Dec 7, 2018 8:25:29 GMT -5
I'm not frustrated, just very very disappointed at the direction of the game's econony and subsequently its gameplay. Because as it has been said, War Robots is a great game at its core.
It's a pity that it is being ruined for a quick buck when some much effort has been put into it and when it could have been so much more enjoyable for us and even profitable for the developers with a different direction.
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Post by thorloki on Dec 7, 2018 8:25:41 GMT -5
BTW I try to play with game recommended setups as much as I can... But some description boxes need to be updated with newer weapons on older bots such as substituting Avenger for Thunder.
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Post by ѕραяяσωнαωк on Dec 14, 2018 19:49:53 GMT -5
BTW I try to play with game recommended setups as much as I can... But some description boxes need to be updated with newer weapons on older bots such as substituting Avenger for Thunder. Never trust the game more than the recommendations of real people. |
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Post by heavypiece on Dec 14, 2018 20:35:42 GMT -5
Am not at all frustrated with this game. I play it for fun. I like to build robots and use them to destroy other robots. I find it very entertaining.
I can see how some people can get frustrated after spending a bit of $$$ and then see their investment "nerfed". But that should be a lesson learned. Education is expensive.
Paying for pixels makes no sense to me.
The time that I spend playing War Robots is my entertainment time. I look at it kind of like going to the movies. Sometimes the movie is good sometimes you walk away thinking, well that pretty much sucked.
My thinking is that if you are playing a game that you find frustrating. Perhaps you should play a different game.
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Post by Golden Toe on Dec 15, 2018 1:13:41 GMT -5
All that grates on my nerves. I’m not obsessed with it’s downfall am I’m resigned to this stupid game failing.
Mark 2 was the the nail. And month after month of new bots and weapons. I played for more than a year with new content and was happy happy happy and I gave then money for 2 accounts.
I think ? I’m done. Tonight has been a big night. I deleted FB. I think I’m going to delete this toxic forum. And this stupid cash crab game.
So long. Thanks for the fish.
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Post by thorloki on Dec 15, 2018 1:39:38 GMT -5
I've become frustrated because other people are frustrated. Angry people drain the happiness out of positive people.
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Post by Golden Toe on Dec 15, 2018 15:11:06 GMT -5
Too much new stuff. It took 2 years to level my main stuff. And there have been too many new stuffs added. They are flooding the game with content we can never level. By the time it’s leveled they nerf it.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Dec 15, 2018 21:21:07 GMT -5
I got unstressed by not playing it as anything but a distraction. I play maybe three or four matches a week now and forget about anything but my own accomplishments in the match. Screw ranking, screw clan bullsh¡t, and 「fluffernutter」 PIXONIC.
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Post by osang on Dec 15, 2018 23:59:50 GMT -5
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Post by gravediggers on Dec 16, 2018 0:40:07 GMT -5
Don't give a rat's 「bum-bum」 about this game anymore way more entertaining games than this one
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Post by killmall420 on Dec 16, 2018 0:43:51 GMT -5
I have not played the game for about 8months just after dash Bots came out been back for 3 days at first i it seamed like some things have changed for the better now I see not really . but my clan keep me since I started it and in waiting to talk to a few friends so that's good . but back to the point it looks to me like its still about cash for pix new stuff all the time and put out faster then be for so I'm building what I have for the most part and get rely good with them i seam to be able to hold my own in I gold try not to climb to high a just play the game for the fun of it even if you buy the best stuff next week better stuff comes out so what the points . I'm just playing pix will get some cash not much if I want something but no were near what they like me to spend. I can away take a 8 month brake again lol remember you don't have to play its up to you not pix
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Post by ezekielcrow on Dec 16, 2018 8:48:29 GMT -5
I hardly play at all. I loved/spent on this game once and its the only game I've had on any of my devices spanning longer than a week. This game appealed to my inner mechwarrior. Once. Play is occassionally enjoyable and I did enjoy Pixo releasing new stuff. What I hated is that they devalue the stuff youve already worked/paid for and are hell bent on trying to get you to spend by beating you up with MM. Now its just apathy. Play a game every few days, quit if I dont like the game. Just sticking around due to a morbid curiosity to see how they further sodomize whats left of their player base.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2018 9:20:57 GMT -5
I have more than enough money (thanks to Switzerland which is the best country on the planet) and I pay around 300$ per month for this game.
But I can absolutely understand those who get frustrated by terrible politics, expensive prices and crazy updating times.
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Post by foxypotato on Dec 24, 2018 15:27:16 GMT -5
If you play this game to reach an end game state where you compete with other players with the same equipment as you the this game has ?dookie? all over you with pay to win tactics and power creep and you are understandably frustrated. If you play this game as a robot farming game and there is no end game state to you and you instead collect and play many different robot types then nothing much has really changed.
I'm a believer in the latter and just kinda do whatever I feel like so these changes don't bother me too much and the game is still enjoyable. For example I'm running a premium/meta bots with Ag weapons hangar for BR and an 'old school builds I didn't run back in the day but everyone else did' hangar for DOM. PDB Griffin, DB Griffin, pot head Leo and like. I shouldn't be running these bad bots and should be running my meta weapons on my meta bots but screw that. I want no part of the ?dookie?show that is Champion league.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2018 15:33:27 GMT -5
If you play this game to reach an end game state where you compete with other players with the same equipment as you the this game has ?dookie? all over you with pay to win tactics and power creep and you are understandably frustrated. If you play this game as a robot farming game and there is no end game state to you and you instead collect and play many different robot types then nothing much has really changed. I'm a believer in the latter and just kinda do whatever I feel like so these changes don't bother me too much and the game is still enjoyable. For example I'm running a premium/meta bots with Ag weapons hangar for BR and an 'old school builds I didn't run back in the day but everyone else did' hangar for DOM. PDB Griffin, DB Griffin, pot head Leo and like. I shouldn't be running these bad bots and should be running my meta weapons on my meta bots but screw that. I want no part of the ?dookie?show that is Champion league. I like this approach! |
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