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Post by Browncoats4ever on Sept 21, 2018 2:02:48 GMT -5
OK, bit of rhetoric there from your side, i'll just try to explain my point of view using my no-so-good english... You all have been there, on the recieving end of ork fire coming from spectre jumping on your head, you have seen it comming, but couldn't do anything to stop it from smoking you before it lands. I'm not sure anyone can call this fair. Shocks, scourges, spectre, inquisitor and pretty much anything that can get you a skilless insta kill without the possibility of a retaliation isn't fair. Above gear gives a user just too much of an advantage to be considered fair, and by definition: cheat (verb) - act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage.I wouldn't consider any of mentioned gear op or cheat gear if we lived in a different War Robots universe, where pixonic don't introduce op gear that is bending their own limitations, like manual y-axis aiming to shoot that descending or hunting vermin out of the existance, or where auto lock on some op weapons doesn't exist in such a bugged manner that evasion is impossible. call me crazy if you want, some time ago i met a hacker in-game, his bot was completly invisible, it was impossible to target him, his firepower was also beyond survivable... see a pattern there? That was before dash era, sure it gave pixo a hint on what could they sell. It's fair because it's available to everyone. I have an Inquisitor and a Spectre. I haven't spent any Real Money at all. It just takes time and patience for some of us. There's nothing dishonest about it because you know the abilities of every weapon and bot available.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 2:04:03 GMT -5
you're right, i appologize for calling more than half of the playerbase cheaters, i was out of line.
sorry guys!
golem rulez!
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Post by Browncoats4ever on Sept 21, 2018 2:06:00 GMT -5
BTW: Great post. I've had a great time reading and responding. I haven't been so passionate about many debates on the forums in a while. Thanks for the giggles!
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Post by tharnage on Sept 21, 2018 3:18:47 GMT -5
The game is littered with full to nearly full hangars of stealth bots in many cases. I hate it. I have one spectre and one inquisitor. I never run them both in the same hangar. I could have two spectres right now. I have over 3/4 of the components for a 2nd. But I could care less. I hate them & refuse to fill my hangar with that stuff. My averages are fairly high (nearly 900,000) for not playing FFA & not having hangars full of that garbage. I'm proud to say. I don't even have a full mk2 12 hangar. Just a mix of stuff from mk1 11 to mk2 12 I'll be happy if the spectre gets nerfed into the dirt. But be aware of the new bots coming out. One of them might be the next nuisance. The game really is pay to win. Whomever wants to fork out the big bucks can get what they want and wreck the battle field asap. Or if you dont want to pay much you can wait months to get and level things. Its structured this way to generate income. Make it so competitive people will pay to play. Then keep changing the meta with new stuff for the next best thing to have. Also throw in some crappy match making to piss people off enough that they fork out a few bucks to speed upgrades in hopes to be stronger. Or buy new gear for the same hope. Truth is you could spend thousands for a awesome hangar. Then in 6 months or so its obsolete & time to do it again. I've witnessed new players spend that much. Then get pissed and quit because it all changed in such a short time. How does Bulwark Dragoon perform in Champion league ? Do you drop it at the start or middle or end ?
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Post by spartan44 on Sept 21, 2018 3:38:26 GMT -5
The tears, frustration, and cursing of all the Red pilots I wreck with my orkan spectres bring me pleasure. I don't care what anyone thinks. I like running a glass cannon bot. Its fun. Note: I don't run shocktrains at all. That actually WOULD make me a skill-less super dooosh. Lol
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Post by babypoppy on Sept 21, 2018 5:44:56 GMT -5
Replenish on Hydras, Tridents and Noricums. TBF, badly piloted Spectres are a joy to wipe out.
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Post by trumpone on Sept 21, 2018 5:56:32 GMT -5
The game is littered with full to nearly full hangars of stealth bots in many cases. I hate it. I have one spectre and one inquisitor. I never run them both in the same hangar. I could have two spectres right now. I have over 3/4 of the components for a 2nd. But I could care less. I hate them & refuse to fill my hangar with that stuff. My averages are fairly high (nearly 900,000) for not playing FFA & not having hangars full of that garbage. I'm proud to say. I don't even have a full mk2 12 hangar. Just a mix of stuff from mk1 11 to mk2 12 I'll be happy if the spectre gets nerfed into the dirt. But be aware of the new bots coming out. One of them might be the next nuisance. The game really is pay to win. Whomever wants to fork out the big bucks can get what they want and wreck the battle field asap. Or if you dont want to pay much you can wait months to get and level things. Its structured this way to generate income. Make it so competitive people will pay to play. Then keep changing the meta with new stuff for the next best thing to have. Also throw in some crappy match making to piss people off enough that they fork out a few bucks to speed upgrades in hopes to be stronger. Or buy new gear for the same hope. Truth is you could spend thousands for a awesome hangar. Then in 6 months or so its obsolete & time to do it again. I've witnessed new players spend that much. Then get pissed and quit because it all changed in such a short time. So u want too play for free or for pennies??? An online game that requires this amount of attention and servers and this complexity? So the company has too never update or create incentives for the long term player to keep playing?? Compared to most other games in playstore this game is actually very reasonable to progress and be competitive.. They don't overload it with tons of Ludacris micro transactions.. It's not a simple puzzle game like candy crush that other people pay 100,s of millions if dollars too play and progress . All THOSE GAMES!!! are LITERALLY P2W. ACTUALLY there just a money grab with a PRETENSE of a game around it and almost all of them use the same mathematical formula and game style too do it . Pix is just trying too get $10 a month too stay alive, lol?!?;?! If a whale wants too spend $1000 on outfitting a bot, Good for him! And us! and pix!
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Post by Desert Eagle 44 on Sept 21, 2018 6:34:45 GMT -5
Long story short: Stealth = Cheat Descent = Cheat I know this because i play this game and i still have eyes and a couple of brain cells undamaged. How is it a cheat if you are using abilities designed for bots in the game created by the makers of the game who are being paid to create said abilities? It might be different if those abilities were outright denied to other players or they otherwise had no access to those abilities. Sure, whales can get it first and it takes a long time for us f2p players to get those bots and weapons, but they're available- if you choose to use them. You can't call others cheats because they use abilities available to you that you refuse to utilize as a result of some personal sense of nobility. If it were a hack by a few players which gave special abilities, that would be a cheat. They're just playing the game. Don't hate the player... Exactly...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 6:37:53 GMT -5
The game is littered with full to nearly full hangars of stealth bots in many cases. I hate it. I have one spectre and one inquisitor. I never run them both in the same hangar. I could have two spectres right now. I have over 3/4 of the components for a 2nd. But I could care less. I hate them & refuse to fill my hangar with that stuff. My averages are fairly high (nearly 900,000) for not playing FFA & not having hangars full of that garbage. I'm proud to say. I don't even have a full mk2 12 hangar. Just a mix of stuff from mk1 11 to mk2 12 I'll be happy if the spectre gets nerfed into the dirt. But be aware of the new bots coming out. One of them might be the next nuisance. The game really is pay to win. Whomever wants to fork out the big bucks can get what they want and wreck the battle field asap. Or if you dont want to pay much you can wait months to get and level things. Its structured this way to generate income. Make it so competitive people will pay to play. Then keep changing the meta with new stuff for the next best thing to have. Also throw in some crappy match making to piss people off enough that they fork out a few bucks to speed upgrades in hopes to be stronger. Or buy new gear for the same hope. Truth is you could spend thousands for a awesome hangar. Then in 6 months or so its obsolete & time to do it again. I've witnessed new players spend that much. Then get pissed and quit because it all changed in such a short time. How does Bulwark Dragoon perform in Champion league ? Do you drop it at the start or middle or end ? I've been using it as my 2nd to last bot. The bot is only level 11 and the dragoons only at 12 here recently. All only mk1. It's an okay build. But the mk2 stuff shooting me can really tear it up quickly if not careful.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 7:14:55 GMT -5
The game is littered with full to nearly full hangars of stealth bots in many cases. I hate it. I have one spectre and one inquisitor. I never run them both in the same hangar. I could have two spectres right now. I have over 3/4 of the components for a 2nd. But I could care less. I hate them & refuse to fill my hangar with that stuff. My averages are fairly high (nearly 900,000) for not playing FFA & not having hangars full of that garbage. I'm proud to say. I don't even have a full mk2 12 hangar. Just a mix of stuff from mk1 11 to mk2 12 I'll be happy if the spectre gets nerfed into the dirt. But be aware of the new bots coming out. One of them might be the next nuisance. The game really is pay to win. Whomever wants to fork out the big bucks can get what they want and wreck the battle field asap. Or if you dont want to pay much you can wait months to get and level things. Its structured this way to generate income. Make it so competitive people will pay to play. Then keep changing the meta with new stuff for the next best thing to have. Also throw in some crappy match making to piss people off enough that they fork out a few bucks to speed upgrades in hopes to be stronger. Or buy new gear for the same hope. Truth is you could spend thousands for a awesome hangar. Then in 6 months or so its obsolete & time to do it again. I've witnessed new players spend that much. Then get pissed and quit because it all changed in such a short time. So u want too play for free or for pennies??? An online game that requires this amount of attention and servers and this complexity? So the company has too never update or create incentives for the long term player to keep playing?? Compared to most other games in playstore this game is actually very reasonable to progress and be competitive.. They don't overload it with tons of Ludacris micro transactions.. It's not a simple puzzle game like candy crush that other people pay 100,s of millions if dollars too play and progress . All THOSE GAMES!!! are LITERALLY P2W. ACTUALLY there just a money grab with a PRETENSE of a game around it and almost all of them use the same mathematical formula and game style too do it . Pix is just trying too get $10 a month too stay alive, lol?!?;?! If a whale wants too spend $1000 on outfitting a bot, Good for him! And us! and pix! Dont be quick to judge, I've been playing this game for nearly 2 years. I've spent thousands of dollars on this game in support of it. So I'm speaking from experience! It started out as I'm cool with supporting a game that's fun and entertaining. I always buy Premium & buy gold weekly to speed my upgrades after earning the silver playing. Sometimes even buying gold to buy bots that cost gold. Because back then bots that were Premium cost gold. Then the dash bots came out. The black market with the chance at winning the new bots was gambling. I was already in champs then. But all the sudden everyone had the new stuff so quickly. So to keep up or get left behind. I spent even more on that stupid gambling crap. Then later find out many people were cheating in this game to get the stuff. Then after that the gold loading cheaters came up. Then later even more new bots & weapons came out and so on and so on. It started to be too much too quickly.So someone like myself, that has been a supporter & not freeloader. I have witnessed the trend in this game & I know what is what. With that in mind I can tell you there is no end. You can try like hell to get your gear and hangar maxed out. So you can have the satisfaction of knowing your stuff is maxed. It's sort of like reaching the finish line with upgrading. But pix will change everything so quickly that you have to start over with new stuff. Its madness for people like myself that like to complete something. Just to have pix keep redrawing the finish line of a competitive champs hangar somewhere else. I guess that's where tankers get satisfaction. They can have maxed hangars of slightly less top tier competitive gear. But still go wreck people that are lower level. BTW I cant stand those kind of players. That's a crappy way to play the game. So to sum it all up. I know a thing or two & probably some more. I'm an experienced player that likes playing this game. I've done more than my share of paying to support the game. But now my spending has slowed way down. I'll buy Premium & sometimes a couple gold deals for the month. But the fact that the company keeps changing things so rapidly has become a big turn off for my spending. And for me as an old time knife fighter pilot. This stealth crap that's become the common bots. Is just a sissy way of playing competitive. Because there used to only be one stealth bot. The stalker. That was a little bot with two light weapons. It was a fun bot, but very brittle. The newer stealth bots are carrying more fire power & have a fairly decent health pool. So it's kind of ridiculous to have all that plus jump & stealth to some people. It's not always about someone is just upset because they dont have the latest and greatest. It's sometimes the honest fact that they do have it. But still think it's a poor way to win when it's nothing but hangars that are full of stealth.
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Post by trumpone on Sept 21, 2018 7:20:26 GMT -5
So u want too play for free or for pennies??? An online game that requires this amount of attention and servers and this complexity? So the company has too never update or create incentives for the long term player to keep playing?? Compared to most other games in playstore this game is actually very reasonable to progress and be competitive.. They don't overload it with tons of Ludacris micro transactions.. It's not a simple puzzle game like candy crush that other people pay 100,s of millions if dollars too play and progress . All THOSE GAMES!!! are LITERALLY P2W. ACTUALLY there just a money grab with a PRETENSE of a game around it and almost all of them use the same mathematical formula and game style too do it . Pix is just trying too get $10 a month too stay alive, lol?!?;?! If a whale wants too spend $1000 on outfitting a bot, Good for him! And us! and pix! Dude you should check your attitude and quick judgement. I've been playing this game for nearly 2 years. I've spent thousands of dollars on this game in support of it. So I'm speaking from experience! It started out as I'm cool with supporting a game that's fun and entertaining. I always buy Premium & buy gold weekly to speed my upgrades after earning the silver playing. Sometimes even buying gold to buy bots that cost gold. Because back then bots that were Premium cost gold. Then the dash bots came out. The black market with the chance at winning the new bots was gambling. I was already in champs then. But all the sudden everyone had the new stuff so quickly. So to keep up or get left behind. I spent even more on that stupid gambling crap. Then later find out many people were cheating in this game to get the stuff. Then after that the gold loading cheaters came up. Then later even more new bots & weapons came out and so on and so on. It started to be too much too quickly.So someone like myself, that has been a supporter & not freeloader. I have witnessed the trend in this game & I know what is what. With that in mind I can tell you there is no end. You can try like hell to get your gear and hangar maxed out. So you can have the satisfaction of knowing your stuff is maxed. It's sort of like reaching the finish line with upgrading. But pix will change everything so quickly that you have to start over with new stuff. Its madness for people like myself that like to complete something. Just to have pix keep redrawing the finish line of a competitive champs hangar somewhere else. I guess that's where tankers get satisfaction. They can have maxed hangars of slightly less top tier competitive gear. But still go wreck people that are lower level. BTW I cant stand those kind of players. That's a crappy way to play the game. So to sum it all up. I know a thing or two & probably some more. I'm an experienced player that likes playing this game. I've done more than my share of paying to support the game. But now my spending has slowed way down. I'll buy Premium & sometimes a couple gold deals for the month. But the fact that the company keeps changing things so rapidly has become a big turn off for my spending. And for me as an old time knife fighter pilot. This stealth crap that's become the common bots. Is just a sissy way of playing competitive. Because there used to only be one stealth bot. The stalker. That was a little bot with two light weapons. It was a fun bot, but very brittle. The newer stealth bots are carrying more fire power & have a fairly decent health pool. So it's kind of ridiculous to have all that plus jump & stealth to some people. It's not always about someone is just upset because they dont have the latest and greatest. It's sometimes the honest fact that they do have it. But still think it's a poor way to win when it's nothing but hangars that are full of stealth. Granted... However there is no end too these games which I think is a good thing. I believe u when u say u have spent good! doe on this game. I'm sorry if I personalized.. but too many people complain about spending a penny,(the same people that vote too raise my taxes, prob).. But NONETHELESS.. IM SURE you know as well that COMPARATIVELY this game is still absolutely way reasonable and my statement still STANDS..
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 21, 2018 7:20:44 GMT -5
In the current META there is only one bot that’s OP, in my opinion. And that’s the one with 4 medium hardpoints, stealth and a jump.
Take any of these out and the Spectre would be balanced.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 7:50:50 GMT -5
Dude you should check your attitude and quick judgement. I've been playing this game for nearly 2 years. I've spent thousands of dollars on this game in support of it. So I'm speaking from experience! It started out as I'm cool with supporting a game that's fun and entertaining. I always buy Premium & buy gold weekly to speed my upgrades after earning the silver playing. Sometimes even buying gold to buy bots that cost gold. Because back then bots that were Premium cost gold. Then the dash bots came out. The black market with the chance at winning the new bots was gambling. I was already in champs then. But all the sudden everyone had the new stuff so quickly. So to keep up or get left behind. I spent even more on that stupid gambling crap. Then later find out many people were cheating in this game to get the stuff. Then after that the gold loading cheaters came up. Then later even more new bots & weapons came out and so on and so on. It started to be too much too quickly.So someone like myself, that has been a supporter & not freeloader. I have witnessed the trend in this game & I know what is what. With that in mind I can tell you there is no end. You can try like hell to get your gear and hangar maxed out. So you can have the satisfaction of knowing your stuff is maxed. It's sort of like reaching the finish line with upgrading. But pix will change everything so quickly that you have to start over with new stuff. Its madness for people like myself that like to complete something. Just to have pix keep redrawing the finish line of a competitive champs hangar somewhere else. I guess that's where tankers get satisfaction. They can have maxed hangars of slightly less top tier competitive gear. But still go wreck people that are lower level. BTW I cant stand those kind of players. That's a crappy way to play the game. So to sum it all up. I know a thing or two & probably some more. I'm an experienced player that likes playing this game. I've done more than my share of paying to support the game. But now my spending has slowed way down. I'll buy Premium & sometimes a couple gold deals for the month. But the fact that the company keeps changing things so rapidly has become a big turn off for my spending. And for me as an old time knife fighter pilot. This stealth crap that's become the common bots. Is just a sissy way of playing competitive. Because there used to only be one stealth bot. The stalker. That was a little bot with two light weapons. It was a fun bot, but very brittle. The newer stealth bots are carrying more fire power & have a fairly decent health pool. So it's kind of ridiculous to have all that plus jump & stealth to some people. It's not always about someone is just upset because they dont have the latest and greatest. It's sometimes the honest fact that they do have it. But still think it's a poor way to win when it's nothing but hangars that are full of stealth. Granted... However there is no end too these games which I think is a good thing. I believe u when u say u have spent good! doe on this game. I'm sorry if I personalized.. but too many people complain about spending a penny,(the same people that vote too raise my taxes, prob).. But NONETHELESS.. IM SURE you know as well that COMPARATIVELY this game is still absolutely way reasonable and my statement still STANDS.. This is the first and only mobile game I've ever spent money on. For me I'd buy console games or PC games. Im one of those people that like to get to a point of completion in a game. For this one, I felt it was having a maxed hangar. That way when your in battle you at least know your not outgunned. That its a little more about skill in the game when both you and your opponents hangars are maxed. But that's now a very hard or very expensive thing to accomplish in this game. Because the developers keep changing things too quickly. As some who is self employed. I know the importance of trying to make money. So I know pix is a company to make money. I can see all the ways they are doing it. But as a gamer that has spent their share in supporting a game & viewing it as fun entertainment with cost. I can honestly say that the rapidness of change & severity of keeping competitive hangars over the long haul. Has started to feel more like a kick in the teeth. Maybe that's just this old guy's POV after long time playing. I've made suggestions to pix all this time. Many ideas I've had emailed to pix or written on this forum have actually come into the game. But none that I ever got credit for oddly. I keep suggesting they make premium more premium. It needs to have better additional stuff to go with it. Because currently it only gives lower level people reason to use it. Once your at level 30 is just a sliver booster. It needs to offer more to people over level 30. Like additional upgrade slots, or discounted rates on a few things. There's more to it but it's not of importance here to write.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Sept 21, 2018 8:11:41 GMT -5
I used to think the stealth bots were OP. Not anymore. Sorry I just skipped ahead to add this.
I'll say it slow. Stealth...doesnt...prevent...you...from...hitting...your..target.
It just prevents you from locking on.
Use shotguns. Use medium/long range. Use rockets for splash. Use direct fire energy weapons. Use your reticle. Stay on the same plane.
They go down pretty easily with those.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 8:26:45 GMT -5
I used to think the stealth bots were OP. Not anymore. Sorry I just skipped ahead to add this. I'll say it slow. Stealth...doesnt...prevent...you...from...hitting...your..target. It just prevents you from locking on. Use shotguns. Use medium/long range. Use rockets for splash. Use direct fire energy weapons. Use your reticle. Stay on the same plane. They go down pretty easily with those. Gold players that have no idea what facing full mk2 12 hangars of stealth bots give advise. No offense man. But it's easy when there's one or two at a time to deal with. I enjoyed those days. But over time and in top tier play. Trust me when I say it can become very annoying when there's 4 to 5 on the field at once. Even more annoying when they are either jumping on you because your the only one brave enough to push for beacon control. Or you blue team is too busy hiding in theirs & won't push. The past two random games I played. A bunch of guys starting out in their shocktrain spectres or hydra spectres. Not going to beacons. Its almost a double edged sword you can be screwed with. Last match, you can see my team wasn't pushing for beacon control. Ok I apologize for sound like a butthead. Your advice is good and valid for what it's worth. But my point stands about champs is littered with those stealth bots.
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Post by trumpone on Sept 21, 2018 8:31:20 GMT -5
Granted... However there is no end too these games which I think is a good thing. I believe u when u say u have spent good! doe on this game. I'm sorry if I personalized.. but too many people complain about spending a penny,(the same people that vote too raise my taxes, prob).. But NONETHELESS.. IM SURE you know as well that COMPARATIVELY this game is still absolutely way reasonable and my statement still STANDS.. This is the first and only mobile game I've ever spent money on. For me I'd buy console games or PC games. Im one of those people that like to get to a point of completion in a game. For this one, I felt it was having a maxed hangar. That way when your in battle you at least know your not outgunned. That its a little more about skill in the game when both you and your opponents hangars are maxed. But that's now a very hard or very expensive thing to accomplish in this game. Because the developers keep changing things too quickly. As some who is self employed. I know the importance of trying to make money. So I know pix is a company to make money. I can see all the ways they are doing it. But as a gamer that has spent their share in supporting a game & viewing it as fun entertainment with cost. I can honestly say that the rapidness of change & severity of keeping competitive hangars over the long haul. Has started to feel more like a kick in the teeth. Maybe that's just this old guy's POV after long time playing. I've made suggestions to pix all this time. Many ideas I've had emailed to pix or written on this forum have actually come into the game. But none that I ever got credit for oddly. I keep suggesting they make premium more premium. It needs to have better additional stuff to go with it. Because currently it only gives lower level people reason to use it. Once your at level 30 is just a sliver booster. It needs to offer more to people over level 30. Like additional upgrade slots, or discounted rates on a few things. There's more to it but it's not of importance here to write. 100% on that premium thing.. it's lame and offers almost no reason to get it. I use it because I know I WONT SOEND MORE then 10$ a month but I don't want too play for free either.so $10 a month is reasonable.. But I'm like, I'll just watch a couple of videos for the same thing??? I like all your suggestions about adding to v.i.p.. A discount or less upgrade time or something.. I'm not asking for much but they gotta throw something more for it.. Even if it is 20% less upgrade time. Cost pix nothing, Doesn't truly change the balance but everybody or a lot would definitely get it..win/win. Also now with these upgrade times and I'm already v.i.p. They have too give me a reason too click on a video.. How about 30 minutes off upgrade times. 20 minutes a video when it's taking me days to upgrade is useless and worthless. Leave the upgrade times were they are and give more benafits to v.i.p and videos!!!!! That would give a reason for both . I hope I at least get credit for YOUR IDEA. The thread is a little off the rails now but entertaining nonetheless.. I'll still maintain that for a game of this complexity that they are not the greediest game, BY FAR!!! they just can't find the formula or an identity in that department. I reiterate that leave upgrade times but throw in a discount upgrade time with v.i.p.. And more time off for videos is doable and will create more profit and better play experience without being greedy and it diesnt give in too much to the free players but keeps them around clicking vudeos and more of a reason too get a subscription .
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Post by integeritis on Sept 21, 2018 8:51:02 GMT -5
Granted... However there is no end too these games which I think is a good thing. I believe u when u say u have spent good! doe on this game. I'm sorry if I personalized.. but too many people complain about spending a penny,(the same people that vote too raise my taxes, prob).. But NONETHELESS.. IM SURE you know as well that COMPARATIVELY this game is still absolutely way reasonable and my statement still STANDS.. This is the first and only mobile game I've ever spent money on. For me I'd buy console games or PC games. Im one of those people that like to get to a point of completion in a game. For this one, I felt it was having a maxed hangar. That way when your in battle you at least know your not outgunned. That its a little more about skill in the game when both you and your opponents hangars are maxed. But that's now a very hard or very expensive thing to accomplish in this game. Because the developers keep changing things too quickly. As some who is self employed. I know the importance of trying to make money. So I know pix is a company to make money. I can see all the ways they are doing it. But as a gamer that has spent their share in supporting a game & viewing it as fun entertainment with cost. I can honestly say that the rapidness of change & severity of keeping competitive hangars over the long haul. Has started to feel more like a kick in the teeth. Maybe that's just this old guy's POV after long time playing. I've made suggestions to pix all this time. Many ideas I've had emailed to pix or written on this forum have actually come into the game. But none that I ever got credit for oddly. I keep suggesting they make premium more premium. It needs to have better additional stuff to go with it. Because currently it only gives lower level people reason to use it. Once your at level 30 is just a sliver booster. It needs to offer more to people over level 30. Like additional upgrade slots, or discounted rates on a few things. There's more to it but it's not of importance here to write. I agree. First mobile game I spent on excluding non free to play stuff. I prefer to pay a full price because I know I get a progression system where you can reach top fast and have balanced games afterwards. I did spend till I got my lance and second hangar. Not anymore. It would require an unreasonable investment to max everything in a few months. Now as a completionist, I don't have the incentive to max everything to finally have balanced games. You either tank time to time to keep lvl averages in sync or wait 4+ years till mk2 lvl12 gives you balance on top.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Sept 21, 2018 9:19:38 GMT -5
I used to think the stealth bots were OP. Not anymore. Sorry I just skipped ahead to add this. I'll say it slow. Stealth...doesnt...prevent...you...from...hitting...your..target. It just prevents you from locking on. Use shotguns. Use medium/long range. Use rockets for splash. Use direct fire energy weapons. Use your reticle. Stay on the same plane. They go down pretty easily with those. Gold players that have no idea what facing full mk2 12 hangars of stealth bots give advise. No offense man. But it's easy when there's one or two at a time to deal with. I enjoyed those days. But over time and in top tier play. Trust me when I say it can become very annoying when there's 4 to 5 on the field at once. Even more annoying when they are either jumping on you because your the only one brave enough to push for beacon control. Or you blue team is too busy hiding in theirs & won't push. The past two random games I played. A bunch of guys starting out in their shocktrain spectres or hydra spectres. Not going to beacons. Its almost a double edged sword you can be screwed with. Last match, you can see my team wasn't pushing for beacon control. Ok I apologize for sound like a butthead. Your advice is good and valid for what it's worth. But my point stands about champs is littered with those stealth bots. No offense taken, bud. I should have qualified my statement. Just trying to help those that may be giving up instead of considering a modification to their play style. I'll admit, I was screaming bloody murder at some point in time myself. The tips I listed paired with good ol combat awareness do help me take down quite a few and If a few more of my team mates could apply these, we'd probably give the reds a bigger run for their money.
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Post by ancelot on Sept 21, 2018 9:21:10 GMT -5
I don't understand all the fuss here, if you don't have spectre, you are either a new player, in which case you won't need a spectre for a long long time, or you are just plain stupid.
Most of the players in higher leagues should have spectres by now, and it doesn't even have to be high level to make it deadly. If 2 players with spectres clash, it comes down to who plays better, and the timing, so ye, it does require skill.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 9:23:58 GMT -5
I don't understand all the fuss here, if you don't have spectre, you are either a new player, in which case you won't need a spectre for a long long time, or you are just plain stupid. Most of the players in higher leagues should have spectres by now, and it doesn't even have to be high level to make it deadly. If 2 players with spectres clash, it comes down to who plays better, and the timing, so ye, it does require skill. You haven't read some post in the thread. So your in the dark.
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Post by ancelot on Sept 21, 2018 9:31:35 GMT -5
I don't understand all the fuss here, if you don't have spectre, you are either a new player, in which case you won't need a spectre for a long long time, or you are just plain stupid. Most of the players in higher leagues should have spectres by now, and it doesn't even have to be high level to make it deadly. If 2 players with spectres clash, it comes down to who plays better, and the timing, so ye, it does require skill. You haven't read some post in the thread. So your in the dark. I was merely answering to what OP said. I don't feel like reading long discussions like this one.
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Post by colonelhamell on Sept 21, 2018 9:32:12 GMT -5
I used to think the stealth bots were OP. Not anymore. Sorry I just skipped ahead to add this. I'll say it slow. Stealth...doesnt...prevent...you...from...hitting...your..target. It just prevents you from locking on. Use shotguns. Use medium/long range. Use rockets for splash. Use direct fire energy weapons. Use your reticle. Stay on the same plane. They go down pretty easily with those. that works fine when the stealthed bot is running on the X axis. But since you are unable to manually target in the y axis, i.e. aim up and down, anything that jumps with stealth breaks the games mechanics. The same problem occurs when a Hover gets in close and then goes straight up.
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Post by darksun on Sept 21, 2018 11:44:28 GMT -5
I used to think the stealth bots were OP. Not anymore. Sorry I just skipped ahead to add this. I'll say it slow. Stealth...doesnt...prevent...you...from...hitting...your..target. It just prevents you from locking on. Use shotguns. Use medium/long range. Use rockets for splash. Use direct fire energy weapons. Use your reticle. Stay on the same plane. They go down pretty easily with those. Gold players that have no idea what facing full mk2 12 hangars of stealth bots give advise. No offense man. But it's easy when there's one or two at a time to deal with. I enjoyed those days. But over time and in top tier play. Trust me when I say it can become very annoying when there's 4 to 5 on the field at once. Even more annoying when they are either jumping on you because your the only one brave enough to push for beacon control. Or you blue team is too busy hiding in theirs & won't push. The past two random games I played. A bunch of guys starting out in their shocktrain spectres or hydra spectres. Not going to beacons. Its almost a double edged sword you can be screwed with. Last match, you can see my team wasn't pushing for beacon control. Ok I apologize for sound like a butthead. Your advice is good and valid for what it's worth. But my point stands about champs is littered with those stealth bots. so... In short, opSpectre is EXCLUSIVELY a champ league problem? The 1% are crying because equipment is too OP in the highest possible tier of competition? Am I reading this right?
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Post by darksun on Sept 21, 2018 11:52:31 GMT -5
This sound a lot like Adrian selling me that ANYONE can get superchest every month.
Sorry but not all of us are in champion league supply drop or have infinite pixo gold.
I'm not trying to 「dookie」 on Champs but seems to me the largest demographic of spectre haters are master and above.
Is the gameplay 「dookie」ty? Yeah probs... but say that. Say "the game is stale playing hide and seek" don't say "too OP no balance"
Be honest about the actual reason.
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Post by darksun on Sept 21, 2018 11:57:15 GMT -5
I got killed by a level 3 pulsar rogtaka... in my Leo. 「dookie」 happens, sometimes its our fault.
Why are they NO THREADS in the first 2 pages of this forum and the TIPS forum on dealing with spectre?
Threads complaining about Spectre: 5 million
Threads discussing viable counters to one of the most pathetically fragile bots: 1?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 12:15:04 GMT -5
Gold players that have no idea what facing full mk2 12 hangars of stealth bots give advise. No offense man. But it's easy when there's one or two at a time to deal with. I enjoyed those days. But over time and in top tier play. Trust me when I say it can become very annoying when there's 4 to 5 on the field at once. Even more annoying when they are either jumping on you because your the only one brave enough to push for beacon control. Or you blue team is too busy hiding in theirs & won't push. The past two random games I played. A bunch of guys starting out in their shocktrain spectres or hydra spectres. Not going to beacons. Its almost a double edged sword you can be screwed with. Last match, you can see my team wasn't pushing for beacon control. Ok I apologize for sound like a butthead. Your advice is good and valid for what it's worth. But my point stands about champs is littered with those stealth bots. so... In short, opSpectre is EXCLUSIVELY a champ league problem? The 1% are crying because equipment is too OP in the highest possible tier of competition? Am I reading this right? I'm not sure how many times I need to say it. The problem isn't just a couple of spectres on the field. The problem is literally the whole field is nothing but spectres, pursuers & the occasional inquisitor. Sometimes you see a mercury but not that often. Stealth bots have become easy to run the battlefield with. The proof is human nature itself. People like to take the easy way. The easy way is to run these types of bots. Just my 2 cents on it. Take it, leave it. Go play with nothing but a stealth hangar or grow big balls and fight without a hangar full of them like I do.
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Post by cheap on Sept 21, 2018 12:38:12 GMT -5
The game is littered with full to nearly full hangars of stealth bots in many cases. I hate it. I have one spectre and one inquisitor. I never run them both in the same hangar. I could have two spectres right now. I have over 3/4 of the components for a 2nd. But I could care less. I hate them & refuse to fill my hangar with that stuff. My averages are fairly high (nearly 900,000) for not playing FFA & not having hangars full of that garbage. I'm proud to say. I don't even have a full mk2 12 hangar. Just a mix of stuff from mk1 11 to mk2 12 I'll be happy if the spectre gets nerfed into the dirt. But be aware of the new bots coming out. One of them might be the next nuisance. The game really is pay to win. Whomever wants to fork out the big bucks can get what they want and wreck the battle field asap. Or if you dont want to pay much you can wait months to get and level things. Its structured this way to generate income. Make it so competitive people will pay to play. Then keep changing the meta with new stuff for the next best thing to have. Also throw in some crappy match making to piss people off enough that they fork out a few bucks to speed upgrades in hopes to be stronger. Or buy new gear for the same hope. Truth is you could spend thousands for a awesome hangar. Then in 6 months or so its obsolete & time to do it again. I've witnessed new players spend that much. Then get pissed and quit because it all changed in such a short time. So u want too play for free or for pennies??? An online game that requires this amount of attention and servers and this complexity? So the company has too never update or create incentives for the long term player to keep playing?? Compared to most other games in playstore this game is actually very reasonable to progress and be competitive.. They don't overload it with tons of Ludacris micro transactions.. It's not a simple puzzle game like candy crush that other people pay 100,s of millions if dollars too play and progress . All THOSE GAMES!!! are LITERALLY P2W. ACTUALLY there just a money grab with a PRETENSE of a game around it and almost all of them use the same mathematical formula and game style too do it . Pix is just trying too get $10 a month too stay alive, lol?!?;?! If a whale wants too spend $1000 on outfitting a bot, Good for him! And us! and pix! "So the company has too never update or create incentives for the long term player to keep playing??" if only they would stop updating
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Post by oooohmyyy on Sept 21, 2018 12:38:42 GMT -5
The OP's probably going to want one once he moves up to silver... cheers!
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Post by RedRaider on Sept 21, 2018 12:47:08 GMT -5
This is the kind of person pix is targeting by selling power. They create over powered bots to sell to people like this for purpose of clubbing other players. As you can see above they actually enjoy beating up on those who cannot fight back and eagerly await the next opportunity to do so again. I didn't buy this setup! I grind for it. Pix is not making anything off me. BTW did you notice my avatar? I got this from a friend that thought it was really funny I got called a whale.
So Unless you have insight into my financials and spending habits I suggest you keep your comments to yourself.
Also clubbing requires me to tank to lower leagues, which I have never done and have been in Champion for over a year. So screw you buddy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 13:21:42 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion; nothing wrong with spectre or shocktrain. Yes, spectre or shocktrain might be tolerable. However, there's everything wrong with spectre + 4x shocktrain + MK2.
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