New Stealth Bots

The game is littered with full to nearly full hangars of stealth bots in many cases. I hate it.

I have one spectre and one inquisitor. I never run them both in the same hangar. I could have two spectres right now. I have over 3/4 of the components for a 2nd. But I could care less. I hate them & refuse to fill my hangar with that stuff. My averages are fairly high (nearly 900,000) for not playing FFA & not having hangars full of that garbage. I'm proud to say. I don't even have a full mk2 12 hangar. Just a mix of stuff from mk1 11 to mk2 12



I'll be happy if the spectre gets nerfed into the dirt. But be aware of the new bots coming out. One of them might be the next nuisance.

The game really is pay to win. Whomever wants to fork out the big bucks can get what they want and wreck the battle field asap. Or if you dont want to pay much you can wait months to get and level things. Its structured this way to generate income. Make it so competitive people will pay to play. Then keep changing the meta with new stuff for the next best thing to have. Also throw in some crappy match making to piss people off enough that they fork out a few bucks to speed upgrades in hopes to be stronger. Or buy new gear for the same hope. Truth is you could spend thousands for a awesome hangar. Then in 6 months or so its obsolete & time to do it again. I've witnessed new players spend that much. Then get pissed and quit because it all changed in such a short time. 

Don't one on one them. Beat them with beacon control. Specters can't take and defend beacons well at all. If you're playing FFA... then stop or get an Orkan Specter and become part of the problem.

This is how I feel about your long winded, whiny post.

Here you go bloodpig made this for ya.

Feel better now?

While I do agree that stealth is ridiculous on those kind of bots - Spectre specifically, Inquisitor a little; it is what Pix wanted, and we have to deal with it. Personally I think the stealth ability should be limited to Stalker and Pursuer; failing that, powerful bots should only be able to use it defensively i.e. the moment they fire, stealth ends and it can’t be re-activated while firing. I’d also increase the cool down for such a powerful ability.

Pix will not do that though, so it is a case of having to adapt, or quit, or deal with it; better yet play 6-pack.

Please explain why, if the Spectre is not incredibly unbalanced, the people who can spend and have anything they want in the game choose to have full spectre hangers. The fact is the bot is broken. There is endless evidence of this in addition to common sense when simply looking at its hard points and skill combination.

So you're playing against lower level opponents. A Leo at any level cannot withstand the damage of 4 Orkans the same level. It's semi close at level 6 but the Orkans still do more damage than the Leo has health, but the damage of the Orkans increases much more than the Leo's health so it's not even close at higher levels.

I mean, I kind of agree with you. Bots like the Spectre and Pursuer are definitely incredibly powerful, especially the Spectre. However, I don't find it nearly as much of a problem as it is with the Shocktrain. When against short range setups on the Spectre, you can at least dodge a decent chunk of the damage with the right bot and environment. Furthermore, they usually die quickly after their stealth ends, unless they're playing cautiously. For 1v1, Spectres are supreme, but if there are any enemy team members next to your target, you're in danger. A Spectre isn't too hard to learn how to play correctly, but there's definitely a degree of skill and tactics involved with using it. Your comment that they're cowards is really just how you play the bot. It's not meant to be a tank, more like an assassin.



But I still wouldn't complain if the Spectre was nerfed. Remove the stealth, switch it to 4x light slots, or whatever. It's a fun bot to play but most certainly over powered. But I don't think it's as bad as the Shocktrain. The Shocktrain's damage is quite high (80% the damage a Trebuchet can deal in half the time). It can hit around cover if your team is foolish enough to step out. It fires instantly, so just one second outside of cover and you'll take the full damage (so it serves as great suppression). It reloads quickly. Its range means you usually can't take it down with a brawling hangar, as you either have to go through its team first, or its team will quickly converge on you if you get close. It can be equipped on the most powerful bots in the game. At allows you to stay in cover most of the time while still being effective. And even after you get your own, it's not really effective until level 12 (and MK2 Level 12 is just a beast).



I'd rather face an Orkan Spectre than a Shocktrain Spectre/Bulgasari any day of the week.



darksun 
If your Shocktrain Spectre is being destroyed in seconds in Diamond League, you're either playing it wrong, or your levels are really low.

As for your Leo...At level 12, the Leo has 226k health. A Spectre with level 10 Orkans are able to deal up to 232k damage in 4 seconds (332k damage at MK2 level 12). So either you're facing Orkan Spectres at only level 6 to 8, or you have an MK2 Leo with 271k health.



Because generally, I love seeing a Leo when I'm piloting an Orkan Spectre. The only thing I like seeing more is a Raijin or a Lancelot without an Ancile.

firewoman

I must not be playing it right. Also Leo is at 11mk1 so I dunno what I'm doing but I don't die in the first salvo.

I honestly don't think I have the patience for the spectre ...can't stand waiting doing nothing while descend recharges.

Long story short:

Stealth = Cheat
Descent = Cheat

I know this because i play this game and i still have eyes and a couple of brain cells undamaged.

Hahaha. Love Noricums killing Specs.

OK, bit of rhetoric there from your side, i'll just try to explain my point of view using my no-so-good english...

You all have been there, on the recieving end of ork fire coming from spectre jumping on your head, you have seen it comming, but couldn't do anything to stop it from smoking you before it lands. I'm not sure anyone can call this fair. Shocks, scourges, spectre, inquisitor and pretty much anything that can get you a skilless insta kill without the possibility of a retaliation isn't fair.

Above gear gives a user just too much of an advantage to be considered fair, and by definition:

cheat (verb) - act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage.

I wouldn't consider any of mentioned gear op or cheat gear if we lived in a different War Robots universe, where pixonic don't introduce op gear that is bending their own limitations, like manual y-axis aiming to shoot that descending or hunting vermin out of the existance, or where auto lock on some op weapons doesn't exist in such a bugged manner that evasion is impossible.

call me crazy if you want, some time ago i met a hacker in-game, his bot was completly invisible, it was impossible to target him, his firepower was also beyond survivable... see a pattern there? That was before dash era, sure it gave pixo a hint on what could they sell.

So your Leo has over 300K health? Aha.