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Post by HarvesterOsorrow on Sept 12, 2018 15:47:03 GMT -5
Ug, I don’t like the idea that we, individually, can lose rank for our clan. So if I have a bad streak and lose a task for our clan then I have to deal with this peer pressure. That’s F’d up. My clan mates and leader are very chill, but still I’ll know and feel self inflicted pressure. Its a anti tanking measure But it can be subverted and manipulated in seconds. Just leave and come back on the way up. The top clans are already doing this en mass. When I played other games we left the clan if we weren’t going to be active. I have no doubt that there are clans that do this now. Thus the gold for more slots is a waste of money. Just get in a clan that has a revolving membership and come in when active. I’d guess the top clans have hundreds of players that rotate in and out. Tanking on the outside and rising within the clan guarantees a huge clan rank
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Post by RedRaider on Sept 12, 2018 19:07:00 GMT -5
I'm sure as hell not going to be shaming my clanmates with expected performance statistics or expecting a certain standard of gameplay. And without AP how will I know who the active members are each week? I have no desire to run a ?fluffernutter?ing deadend parking lot clan. As it is now it is nearly impossible to get members who can attain a measly 100 AP per week in my Amazon BATTLEHAMMER clan. I feel ya bro!! (wow that sounds filthy). Anyway, I am at the same place in Amazon [FeAu] Iron Gold clan. I can not tell who is playing and who is not. Except for those pilots that dont have any "Cup" numbers next to their tag. I assume is you dont have any #s next to your name you have not played sense the new month came online and qualified for your league. If that is the case I have a 「dookie」load of pilots that will be retired. Meaning the waiting list for entrance into my MUST HAVE clan will get shorter. lol Finding pilots to join is not easy either.
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Post by RedRaider on Sept 12, 2018 19:16:46 GMT -5
Has anyone figured out these clan rankings yet? I must be awesome as hell because my two man(myself only) clan has a pretty decent ranking. I booted every member when not one would comply with all of my requirements and the clan of only my two profiles actually jumped 12 ranks. I am about to do the same thing. there are only a handful of active players in my clan so the rest are getting retired.
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Post by T34 on Sept 12, 2018 19:39:37 GMT -5
Has anyone figured out these clan rankings yet? I must be awesome as hell because my two man(myself only) clan has a pretty decent ranking. I booted every member when not one would comply with all of my requirements and the clan of only my two profiles actually jumped 12 ranks. I am about to do the same thing. there are only a handful of active players in my clan so the rest are getting retired. and HEATHEN HERETIC
how will you guys know who to let in?
In regards to small clans I do not understand this stuff either. For starters the best regional clans are generally half full or even less. There must be something somewhere that makes small calns benefit.
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Post by RedRaider on Sept 12, 2018 19:45:51 GMT -5
I am about to do the same thing. there are only a handful of active players in my clan so the rest are getting retired. and HEATHEN HERETIC
how will you guys know who to let in?
In regards to small clans I do not understand this stuff either. For starters the best regional clans are generally half full or even less. There must be something somewhere that makes small calns benefit.
The only thing I can add is that active players have a "cup" Number next to their name in clan page. that is the only way I can see if someone has played all month. I could track their progression with that number but that is a lot of work. I am guessing but I found that my name didnt have anything next to it until I Qualified my League at the start of the new month. The number grows or shrinks with your battle results. like league points. I have a group of players that have nothing next to their name so I figure they are not playing or qualifying for their league. thoughts?
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Post by RedRaider on Sept 12, 2018 19:48:20 GMT -5
I am about to do the same thing. there are only a handful of active players in my clan so the rest are getting retired. and HEATHEN HERETIC
how will you guys know who to let in?
In regards to small clans I do not understand this stuff either. For starters the best regional clans are generally half full or even less. There must be something somewhere that makes small calns benefit.
OOPS, I think I answered the wrong question. Who to let in? ummm if they are asking to come in then I will let them in. Now that our AP requirements mean nothing, there is no way to judge who is active and who is casual to who is dead wood. It really sucks for management.
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Post by T34 on Sept 12, 2018 20:08:17 GMT -5
and HEATHEN HERETIC
how will you guys know who to let in?
In regards to small clans I do not understand this stuff either. For starters the best regional clans are generally half full or even less. There must be something somewhere that makes small calns benefit.
OOPS, I think I answered the wrong question. Who to let in? ummm if they are asking to come in then I will let them in. Now that our AP requirements mean nothing, there is no way to judge who is active and who is casual to who is dead wood. It really sucks for management. IMO that's the biggest issue. Cant tell who actually plays.
Before the change our clan used to get an applicant like every 15 secs. 99% had like 0-50 cups. If you stack your clan with those guys than the clan is screwed. And if you don’t recruit than the cclan is screwed due to player attrition. I really cant see a solution with things being as is.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Sept 12, 2018 22:56:37 GMT -5
I am about to do the same thing. there are only a handful of active players in my clan so the rest are getting retired. and HEATHEN HERETIC
how will you guys know who to let in?
In regards to small clans I do not understand this stuff either. For starters the best regional clans are generally half full or even less. There must be something somewhere that makes small calns benefit.
I don't let anyone in anymore. Like RedRaider stated, sure you can see if a player is active, but only once, because their ranking cups do show up in the clan menu just as Activity Points once did. If they have not been active up to the point that they are then nothing shows there at all. But that only indicates if that the player played a single game, not how many. By not how many I mean everyone knows that your ranking cups just go up and down according to your win/loss rating. And it is far easier to lose a bunch of those cups than it is to win them. I am not a player that considers those so-called "league" rankings as worthy of rating players. I've seen players, especially myself, gain a few ranks only to lose more. Not because of their own gameplay but because of the lack of gameplay by others. And we all know about the matching in the game and how that can effect your win/loss. Yay 50/50. Based on what I just stated occurs in the game by design I might look at a players ranking as Gold at one time then look again and see a Bronze player. Look again the next day and see a Diamond player. 35 players. Like I've seriously got that kind of time to track every single players ranking cups. If I were to base my clan memberships on those stupid ranking cups I'd be seriously stupid myself and a total ?dookie?bird hypocrite to boot. Because I bounced up and down those useless rankings all the time with my Android profiles. Not because I was tanking with effort but because I have never once given a ?dookie? about the so-called "league" rankings. So I can see if a member is active but not by how much. Are they active by one game or a thousand? I know not. All of the members in my clan got booted because they utterly failed to read and understand the membership requirements that I clearly posted in the "clan motto" space. And even after I continuously announced the requirements to them in the clan chat, some even as they came aboard, they refused to comply with them or voluntarily leave on their own because they could/would not. I actually had some dare me to boot them. Can you believe that? Like they could stop me or do anything if I did. It's been weeks since I started it and even after announcing it several times on FaceBook and here with the requirements posted there were no takers. I had it not listed in the game for a bit just to keep out useless riff-raff. After a bit I tried inviting players based on their weekly activity and advertised locations. But that turned out to be pointless because they either didn't have the wit to check the motto or as I stated earlier they simply refused to comply once they were notified. I want tobe a part of a clan but a clan that has a name that sounds like a clan. No offence but what the hell does $4me even mean? Money for me? A $4 prostitute? $4bo?? I am a member of a bunch of incomprehesible symbols? Oh, that's supposed to mean Killer 「fake pee place」 Users. My bad. No thanks. So I am a clan...of one.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 0:05:52 GMT -5
Clans are meaningless. With the current system only those in Champions need to be in a clan, even then there are plenty of people around who are champions without a clan backing them up. Pix is trying to change the game to a team focus, or at least incentivize a team focus, but until the matchmaker is drastically improved, I doubt many will be interested in clans or squadding.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Sept 14, 2018 1:48:41 GMT -5
Clans are meaningless. With the current system only those in Champions need to be in a clan, even then there are plenty of people around who are champions without a clan backing them up. Pix is trying to change the game to a team focus, or at least incentivize a team focus, but until the matchmaker is drastically improved, I doubt many will be interested in clans or squadding. You may be right about tbat, especially on the Amazon servers. Compare this pic to the previous one that I posted here and you can see that with only two members, myself and I, the ranking has jumped up by a couple of notches. So am I really that awesome to be a clan of one(two if you count profiles) that I can rank in the top 50? Knowing my own skills, hell no. So either the number of active clans has gone down dramatically or those stupid rating cups are holding back a large number of clans because their members are evening their wins and losses in the exact same manner as the individual who can't seem to move their own ranking very much no matter how hard they try. Win 10 matches and get 35 cups, lose 3 matches and lose 36. Clan ranking in this manner is just ?dookie? on a stick. PIXINIC can wave it around and claim it's a marshmallow all they want, but it's still going to look and smell and be just what it is.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Sept 14, 2018 2:58:44 GMT -5
Might be going downhill faster than first thought. Jumped another three ranks in as many matches...
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Sept 18, 2018 8:54:12 GMT -5
Just unbelievable...
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Sept 19, 2018 2:56:55 GMT -5
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Sept 21, 2018 3:25:18 GMT -5
I stopped playing with my profile Thor right after the previous posted pic. Dropped into two games with Battlehammer and this occured to my clan ranking.... So either I am a gamer war god or clans are disappearing. I'm betting on the latter because I'm only a gamer demi-god.
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Post by leshclan on Sept 28, 2018 11:00:18 GMT -5
I hated tankers... I hated cheaters.... People who deliberately dropped to beat others are chumps who don't want to face equal challenges.... MAN did Pixonic sure F me for being an honest player !! IF YOU DON'T TANK AS A CLAN MEMBER THEN YOU CAN'T HELP YOUR CLAN. Plain and simple. When you have a clan full of people who have worked hard to get to where they are, they don't just "fly" up the ladder they crawl. When you have reached your "peak" in your own personal league then you slowly inch your way up when you uplevel your guns or bots. Which, thanks to your incredibly F'd up increase in times, now takes MONTHS instead of the weeks that it was taking (which was too long already !!)..... People sit at about the 50% mark in wins.. but your point system which is also F'd up (how do you justify losing 30-40% MORE than you CAN EVER WIN ??) NOW takes MASSIVE points away from a LOSING CLAN TEAM WHEN YOUR CLAN IS IN DIAMOND LEAGUE AND IS FACING CHAMP LEAGUE PEOPLE !!! 「whiskey tango foxtrot」, 「whiskey tango foxtrot」, 「whiskey tango foxtrot」 !!!! REALLY SO, now when my squad goes in, instead of me just losing 22 points because I was stuck in a random team against a champ team, MY CLAN LOSES OVER 150+ IN ONE GD MATCH !!! We had 500 points one time.... Then we played 4 games, 「fluffernutter」ING 4 games !!, and wiped out the entire pile of them because the squad of DIAMOND league players we have had to face... 1. SCNB, 2. WAR, 3. SCNB, 4. RIOT.... and that's it for 500 points ! GONE. HOW CAN THAT BE CONSIDERED EVEN REMOTELY FAIR ?? WHEN WILL THIS BULL「dookie」 STOP ? EVER ?
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Post by HarvesterOsorrow on Sept 29, 2018 20:34:10 GMT -5
Awesome first post! Truly. Um yah, clan ranks profoundly promotes tanking. As said above. Several times
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Post by leshclan on Oct 2, 2018 13:55:53 GMT -5
Thank you... I have played for about a year and a half and all I can say is Pixonic is either trying to tank their own game into oblivion OR.... they have already decided that the only way to FUND THE VIRTUAL REALITY THING they are trying to build is to milk as much money from this to get it built.... But still.... dammit already....
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