Nemo
Destrier
Posts: 87
Karma: 44
Platform: Android
League: Champion
Favorite robot: Raven
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Post by Nemo on Aug 21, 2018 2:37:28 GMT -5
Playing KOTH with heavy bot hanger (5 griffin) is not possible. I always end up near the bottom of my team. This mode is horrible. Only beacon sucking parasites end up profiting from it. Sucking beacons is boring for me and I don't want it. What tactics can you suggest to make it more bearable?
Alternative hanger is not possible with current upgrade times and silver costs. Also I don't like other bots as much as griffin.
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Post by Robotor Affan on Aug 21, 2018 2:50:16 GMT -5
When start, if you go for center beacon, use DB setup.
Or straight away focus on 2nd beacon.
Or just wait until new KOTH mode available in LIVE. They're testing the new mode that consist 4 beacons at new locations.
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Post by Estoplast on Aug 21, 2018 2:52:32 GMT -5
Go for dmg. That helps team also.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Aug 21, 2018 2:53:50 GMT -5
Get a second hangar...
If you care about your league ranking: Put 2 fast bots in your second hangar. Use them to cap your home and side beacons ONLY, never go for centre, never leave safety. Just camp on your home and side beacon and make sure you are always there before it pops. This will keep you in the + league points in most matches.
If you DON'T care about your league ranking: Put 1 or 2 bots in your second hangar. Do a bit of damage (or you get LPQ's) then die quickly after the 8 minute mark.
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Post by wildboar on Aug 21, 2018 4:10:23 GMT -5
Another arsey opinion about people actually playing the mode the way it is supposed to be played... wow ...
the objective of this mode is beacon control ...
Tactics to make it more bearable : Try to grab a beacon and hold it with your team mates - plan your next beacon
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Post by wildboar on Aug 21, 2018 4:31:46 GMT -5
Oh look at me , I am a beacon sucking parasite...  Kerching!! |
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Aug 21, 2018 4:33:12 GMT -5
Another arsey opinion about people actually playing the mode the way it is supposed to be played... wow ...
the objective of this mode is beacon control ...
Tactics to make it more bearable : Try to grab a beacon and hold it with your team mates - plan your next beacon
KOTH is inherently flawed. One team has a massive disadvantage. If you actually play it properly at least half the time you'll be rewarded with negative league points. |
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Post by wildboar on Aug 21, 2018 4:38:45 GMT -5
I agree but you can only play it the way it was designed , however flawed...
It would certainly help to have more than 1 hangar (which I don't have)
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 21, 2018 4:49:10 GMT -5
At least if he goes for damage, he will get a ton of silver and may even help the team win by stripping their small light bots and denying them beacons.
Here's a radical idea @nemo. Instead of trying to cap the first 2 beacons, go camp at the Reds flank beacon. All the Reds will be focused on the first 2 so it'll be easy to get there. Then, when the beacon turns white and the Reds come, blast them.
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Post by maverick on Aug 21, 2018 5:00:17 GMT -5
Easy I quit every single KOTH game. Eventually they will learn
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Post by Desert Eagle 44 on Aug 21, 2018 7:34:43 GMT -5
Save gold and plan for 2 hangars. Yes, it's a lot to keep track of and a lot of silver to grind for upgrades, but in the modern world of "random" modes those of us that have 2 or more have the advantage, many times even over those with more powerful single hangers. Pix wants you to have a hanger for each mode, up to 5, but 2 brings versatility, which brings more enjoyable game play. I like the Griffin as well, and have run every setup possible with the inventory I have, but with poor ground speed, minus the jump ability, it's just not effective on the larger more open maps. I won't say the only effective single hanger is the one loaded with leveled dash bots, but most often it is. One strategy I've used on KotH: if the next beacon is closer to our home spawning point I'll eject and re-spawn, often that is quicker than trying to cover the distance, especially if you're still getting shot at. The up side is that you don't give up that last bit of damage or the kill to the reds, the downside is that you lose the position you may have been trying to hold. So, it's situational, I guess.
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Post by BossieBos on Aug 21, 2018 11:19:30 GMT -5
KOTH to me is pretty fun. I like that mode the best, to be honest. Next to BR. What makes it fun is trying to snatch and pre-secure the opponents’ non-home beacon while they’re all going for their homebeacon. Especially if my team is all out on the home beacon, which makes it switch faster to the beacon I’m at. There’s only a few bots with enough speed and firepower to get to me fast enough. Then it comes down to tactically picking of the HP of the guys coming towards me and using cover and special abilities smart enough. It’s fun.  |
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Post by GuitarGuy on Aug 21, 2018 12:10:03 GMT -5
Sounds like you need to stick with FFA Exclusively since you hate beacons so much...just sayin.. that will make KOTH more bearable for those of us who actually like beacon control and expect the same from our teammates.
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Nemo
Destrier
Posts: 87
Karma: 44
Platform: Android
League: Champion
Favorite robot: Raven
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Post by Nemo on Aug 21, 2018 12:50:34 GMT -5
Sounds like you need to stick with FFA Exclusively since you hate beacons so much...just sayin.. that will make KOTH more bearable for those of us who actually like beacon control and expect the same from our teammates. I don't hate beacons, I hate sucking beacons in KOTH mode. I like BR and Domination, hate KOTH and especially TDM. For FFA I would need a strictly brawling hangar, which I don't have yet. But thanks for advice. |
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Post by hyderier on Aug 21, 2018 14:06:48 GMT -5
Another arsey opinion about people actually playing the mode the way it is supposed to be played... wow ...
the objective of this mode is beacon control ...
Tactics to make it more bearable : Try to grab a beacon and hold it with your team mates - plan your next beacon
If you want league points and Au, you need to sit on beacons. If you want to win, half of the time you should leave the beacon damn well alone after flipping it to blue, so that it depletes as slowly as possible, and use the time to move to next beacon. So when you talk about "how it is supposed to be played", you should specify if you mean playing to win or playing to get Au & league points. |
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Post by Loganspawn on Aug 21, 2018 14:24:10 GMT -5
Another arsey opinion about people actually playing the mode the way it is supposed to be played... wow ...
the objective of this mode is beacon control ...
Tactics to make it more bearable : Try to grab a beacon and hold it with your team mates - plan your next beacon
KOTH is inherently flawed. One team has a massive disadvantage. If you actually play it properly at least half the time you'll be rewarded with negative league points. This X 1000 |
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Post by mechtout on Aug 21, 2018 14:25:16 GMT -5
Anything that keeps you out of champions league is a plus. Win win to go for the win imo
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Post by foxypotato on Aug 21, 2018 16:43:46 GMT -5
Playing KOTH with heavy bot hanger (5 griffin) is not possible. I always end up near the bottom of my team. This mode is horrible. Only beacon sucking parasites end up profiting from it. Sucking beacons is boring for me and I don't want it. What tactics can you suggest to make it more bearable? Alternative hanger is not possible with current upgrade times and silver costs. Also I don't like other bots as much as griffin. I've done well in KOTH with 2 RDB Griffins. I run an all AG hangar and the 2 Griffins are my fastest heavies. Figure out which beacon is next and jump at it then waddle over to it before it turns. Rinse and repeat. Easy league points. If you find that boring then you can go clobber reds and ignore the beacons. Stand in one for a bit to ensure at least some capture points to avoid a -22 in a loss. |
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Post by BingiDredd on Aug 27, 2018 14:48:50 GMT -5
What a crap mode koth is. Why do team mates all rush to suck out the beacon if they are losing the game, or even if they're winning? Surly capture the beacon and if no reds are about leave the circle and head for the next beacon that will be white or try to cover another beacon. The reds are on the other side of the map all waiting for the next beacon so how as a blue you supposed to prevent this if you parctically hand that beacon to the reds by sucking out a blue beacon. I capture the beacon and if we are losing leave the circle in order to prevent the reds from getting the next one. That's when i see my team mates rushing to suck the life from that same blue beacon so not leaving us any chance to try stop reds from capping the next one. Man what a plonker of a mode played by too many plonkers. Think I'll just start to skip koth. Not suitable for my ole school hanger anyway. pffft!
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Post by T34 on Aug 27, 2018 17:58:11 GMT -5
What a crap mode koth is. Why do team mates all rush to suck out the beacon if they are losing the game, or even if they're winning? Surly capture the beacon and if no reds are about leave the circle and head for the next beacon that will be white or try to cover another beacon. The reds are on the other side of the map all waiting for the next beacon so how as a blue you supposed to prevent this if you parctically hand that beacon to the reds by sucking out a blue beacon. I capture the beacon and if we are losing leave the circle in order to prevent the reds from getting the next one. That's when i see my team mates rushing to suck the life from that same blue beacon so not leaving us any chance to try stop reds from capping the next one. Man what a plonker of a mode played by too many plonkers. Think I'll just start to skip koth. Not suitable for my ole school hanger anyway. pffft! It is a crap and flawed mode. Best map to play KOTH on is the carrier :-)
splash, splash, fan blade, splash and splash.
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Post by bayscout on Aug 27, 2018 21:32:19 GMT -5
Playing KOTH with heavy bot hanger (5 griffin) is not possible. I always end up near the bottom of my team. This mode is horrible. Only beacon sucking parasites end up profiting from it. Sucking beacons is boring for me and I don't want it. What tactics can you suggest to make it more bearable? Alternative hanger is not possible with current upgrade times and silver costs. Also I don't like other bots as much as griffin. Why on Earth do you run 5 Griffin's? |
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Post by hyderier on Aug 27, 2018 23:44:56 GMT -5
What a crap mode koth is. Why do team mates all rush to suck out the beacon if they are losing the game, or even if they're winning? Surly capture the beacon and if no reds are about leave the circle and head for the next beacon that will be white or try to cover another beacon. The reds are on the other side of the map all waiting for the next beacon so how as a blue you supposed to prevent this if you parctically hand that beacon to the reds by sucking out a blue beacon. I capture the beacon and if we are losing leave the circle in order to prevent the reds from getting the next one. That's when i see my team mates rushing to suck the life from that same blue beacon so not leaving us any chance to try stop reds from capping the next one. Man what a plonker of a mode played by too many plonkers. Think I'll just start to skip koth. Not suitable for my ole school hanger anyway. pffft! First you gotta understand, different players play KotH with different objective. Some are just trying to do max damage (for Silver), possibly while gaining as little league points as possible, ideally losing (because let's face it, league points are a punishment for playing too well). Some are trying to gain league points and/or Au, so they try to hog as many capture points as they can, and winning is 2ndary (because a win without Au is useless anyway). And then there are very few players who care about winning more than they care about league points (losing or gaining), Au or Ag. Having these conflicting goals for different players is the main issue with KotH. Players on the same team are competing against each others (both on winning/losing, and on capture points) every game, more than they are competing against reds. Once you understand this, you can decide what is your goal, and play accordingly. Even slow heavy bots can take capture points from beacons on your side, and often Au on wins. Even lighter bots can rack up some serious damage, if you concentrate on reds who are just after league points. |
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Post by hyderier on Aug 27, 2018 23:51:10 GMT -5
Playing KOTH with heavy bot hanger (5 griffin) is not possible. I always end up near the bottom of my team. This mode is horrible. Only beacon sucking parasites end up profiting from it. Sucking beacons is boring for me and I don't want it. What tactics can you suggest to make it more bearable? Alternative hanger is not possible with current upgrade times and silver costs. Also I don't like other bots as much as griffin. Why on Earth do you run 5 Griffin's? I'd rather ask, why not 5 Griffins? It's possibly the best Ag bot. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 0:41:12 GMT -5
Get a second hangar... If you care about your league ranking: Put 2 fast bots in your second hangar. Use them to cap your home and side beacons ONLY, never go for centre, never leave safety. Just camp on your home and side beacon and make sure you are always there before it pops. This will keep you in the + league points in most matches. If you DON'T care about your league ranking: Put 1 or 2 bots in your second hangar. Do a bit of damage (or you get LPQ's) then die quickly after the 8 minute mark.  |
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Post by bayscout on Aug 28, 2018 8:55:33 GMT -5
Why on Earth do you run 5 Griffin's? I'd rather ask, why not 5 Griffins? It's possibly the best Ag bot. I agree, they're very versatile but I wouldn't want 5 of them (or 5 of ANY bot for that matter). You want a versatile hangar, not a hangar full of the same versatile bot. |
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Post by White1Golf on Aug 28, 2018 10:45:07 GMT -5
Select menu in the top right hand corner. From menu select Leave Game, when prompted select leave game again, problem solved.
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Post by linearblade on Sept 15, 2018 5:21:58 GMT -5
Playing KOTH with heavy bot hanger (5 griffin) is not possible. I always end up near the bottom of my team. This mode is horrible. Only beacon sucking parasites end up profiting from it. Sucking beacons is boring for me and I don't want it. What tactics can you suggest to make it more bearable? Alternative hanger is not possible with current upgrade times and silver costs. Also I don't like other bots as much as griffin. Your best optiOn is to know the order of beacons (and that’s changing soon) and be there in advance for the next active beacon. Outside of that, get a second hangar, load it with kumi pursuer and stalkers and be a leach. Works great. Koth is a great game mode but only if you’ve prepared for it. Most people don’t have 2 hangars AND appropriate gear for second hangar |
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Post by linearblade on Sept 15, 2018 5:24:01 GMT -5
Why on Earth do you run 5 Griffin's? I'd rather ask, why not 5 Griffins? It's possibly the best Ag bot. Just not great for koth. I think griffin has very real advantages still over dash bots. It’s only really obsoleted now by spectre, prolly inquisitor as well |
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Post by titan1200 on Sept 30, 2018 16:15:33 GMT -5
Get a second hangar... If you care about your league ranking: Put 2 fast bots in your second hangar. Use them to cap your home and side beacons ONLY, never go for centre, never leave safety. Just camp on your home and side beacon and make sure you are always there before it pops. This will keep you in the + league points in most matches. If you DON'T care about your league ranking: Put 1 or 2 bots in your second hangar. Do a bit of damage (or you get LPQ's) then die quickly after the 8 minute mark. |
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Post by titan1200 on Sept 30, 2018 16:16:14 GMT -5
That's coward talk
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