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Post by leper on Feb 17, 2017 5:38:09 GMT -5
Hello everyone. I have enough magnums and tarans in my hangar. I am considering a rhino next. Does it worth for it? Too many wsp is needed. Shoul i get it or what?
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Post by B30RLL on Feb 17, 2017 6:02:48 GMT -5
For wsp bot priority, suggest you get the carnage first.
Rhino has lost its luster since it's alpha dog days, and is now more of an acquired taste. Most people either hate it or love it. Those who love it are very good with it and run 2-3 in their hangar. Those who hate it... well they hate it.
To be safe, suggest you put it off until you feel comfortable with spending 15k wsp as a 'let's give it a try and see if I like it' type of purchase. Or if you feel determined to get one, keep in mind that rhino's movement mechanics are unlike any other platform, and requires a lot of practice to master. It's not for everybody.
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Post by BLYTHE on Feb 17, 2017 7:16:36 GMT -5
Sign up for test servers and you can try any bot or weapon before buying them.
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Post by Tarastir on Feb 17, 2017 7:25:56 GMT -5
For me Rhino is too hard to master. With Plasma Griffin you can have the same firepower with easy to use jump and without complicated shield mechanics. With a DB build it's easier to "jump in and unload" or "unload and jump out". I have also problems with rising and lowering the shield - the button doesn't always work.
It's just my opinion. I would like to switch that Rhino for 3 Mags and put them on a Leo.
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Post by zermer42 on Feb 17, 2017 7:44:14 GMT -5
Rhinos take awhile to learn to use but can be dangerous if used correctly. I'd argue that rhinos were better before the new match making since leveling the rhino to the point of usefulness will take so long combined with not being able to learn to pilot it in a match where all equipment is roughly equal, now you will be learning how to use the rhino possibly against DB orkan/piñata attacks before you can learn how to master piloting a rhino.
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Post by 3castle on Feb 17, 2017 8:11:20 GMT -5
i love rhino. it can actually run multiple different setups, and all of them actually works quite well. it took about a week to master rhino. rhino is actually deadly robot if played correctly, but if its misused, its a free kill for enemies. in my garage, i have 3 rhinos with 1 pdb, and 2 orkan pinata. when playing rhino, all u need to know is how to use the assult mode. if ur going somewhere, always use mode cuz it goes faster. when facing opponents, it gets little tricky. rhino shouldnt be played like like using thunder. if ur too close to the enemy, the shield is pretty much useless. lower the shield only when enemy is reloading, or it is certain that u will kill the enemy. when fighting thunder, wait until enemy shoots all pallets, and once firing rate slows down, lower shield and slowly move away from enemy, so u get less damage. when fighting aphids, its actually very easy. when u see aphids comming at u, face those aphids and extend the shield. in this way, u wont get damaged at all, or just light damage.
i cant really tell how to play rhino, but as u play it, u will eventually understand how things work.
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Post by nightmarepatrol on Feb 17, 2017 8:16:19 GMT -5
I've had a Rhino for a while and it is definitely becoming less effective. It's difficult to learn (I'm still doing it) and your results will be hit and miss for a while. Orkan/Taran and Pinata/Magnum combos are about the only thing that are really worthwhile on it, though I'm seeing more with aphids on them lately. I suppose there are worse things you could spend WSP on (like a treb). Like B30RLL said you could get a carnage which comes with its own special learning curve and I'll tell you it's a high risk/reward bot especially with the thunder set up. You may find your carnage gone in 30 seconds or you may kill 6 bots with it before getting killed.
The Rhino takes a special situational awareness because with the shield up you go forward and with it down you can move in any direction but watch out for the glacier behind you as it's moving faster than you are. Basically having a Rhino means sizing up the field, plotting a course of action, acting on it and hope it doesn't change on you in midstream and you'll be flanked and toast quickly.
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Post by Deadalready on Feb 17, 2017 8:28:04 GMT -5
It kinda depends at what level the rest of your hangar is, at entry levels (level 6 heavies) the rhino feels extremely fast with it's assault mode. The turning ability of the Rhino is nearly non existent but it's still excellent if you like to get into battle quickly and drop heavy damage into someone's face. While I've seen different combinations of Rhinos I kinda feel like they work best with Orkans (massive damage quickly) so be prepared to get a pair of Orkans to get the most out of them.
Personally I love my Rhino but it is not my first choice to open with.
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Feb 17, 2017 10:43:03 GMT -5
Rhino has its use, but really needs a lot of practise. I use it for about a week. It has its moments, but I need a lot more training with it.
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Post by RΛИDØM on Feb 18, 2017 5:00:50 GMT -5
Griffin is better in most situations currently - plus Griffin is much easier to learn to use. Save your WSP for Carnage, tridents and Trebuchets. Pick your favorites of: Carnage with 2 thunders; Carnage with 2 tridents; Fury with 3 tridents, Butch with 4 Trebuchets.
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Post by hulkz1 on Feb 18, 2017 10:13:59 GMT -5
I bought a Rhino based on all the wonderful things written about them. As it turns out, reading that it doesnt turn with the shield deployed is not the same as actually playing. Mine is parked and I should be able to cash it in for a reasonable refund of WSP.
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Post by RightOn on Feb 18, 2017 10:37:36 GMT -5
Decide when it's necessary to change direction. The shield and assult speed pairs well with Orkans reload time. Hellfire Rhino (mags and Orkans) is still a force to be reckoned with.
Rhino has nearly 50% more health than a Ghad and 1 more medium hardpoint, as well as a bit more shield durability. It can get from A to B just as quickly too. If you treat it like a Rhino and not just as any old bot...
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Post by SlowReflexes on Feb 18, 2017 11:09:52 GMT -5
I have 2 Rhinos. After I saved the gold for Galahads, a Lance and a Fury I switched down to 1. They take a fair amount of practice to use fluently, and you need to be a lot more careful about watching the whole map when you're in one, but I find them to be pretty powerful and useful.
However, in a MM-induced hangar rebalance, I recently swapped out my last Rhino (a Hellfire) for a Stalker.
Weird, but unless you're already at Top the way the new MM works you need to think about balancing your hangar a little differently. Rhino can definitely be fast enough to cap beacons, I just went a different way. YMMV.
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Feb 18, 2017 11:10:26 GMT -5
Rhino is great to block entrances, too. Yamantau center beacon, for example. And when you got teammates, who can cornershoot around you, that is not easy to deal with.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2017 12:19:48 GMT -5
I personally do not like the Rhino, but it the Orkan Magnum combo is excellent against plasma Griffins
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Post by ogpondskum on Feb 18, 2017 23:19:20 GMT -5
I think it depends on your play style. The Rhino can move fast but it is not nimble like a Carnage and with as many TTFs out there, you need to be very careful with the Rhino even though it has that huge shield. At least with the Carnage you have an energy shield to protect you a little from the TTFs. I personally would chose the Rhino vs the Carnage but I actually don't run either in my hanger that often. I have at least four Rhinos, I just decided I like other bots better at the moment.
As other's have stated, sign up for the test server and play with them.
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Post by Strayed on Feb 19, 2017 0:00:19 GMT -5
warrobots.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:I%27mWithTheGuyWithTheShirtThatSaysI%27mWithStupid/PDB_rhino_guideI would definitely recommend the Rhino. It's one of the most versatile bots in the game and can hold its own when facing midrange due to its combination of High health and High speed. While it isn't as good as before, it's still one of the six main meta bots. It does require knowing how to use it though. Personally, I would recommend the PDB Rhino once you get the hang of it, but the DB Rhino is the best for learning how to use it.
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Post by VivaLaResistance on Feb 19, 2017 0:52:48 GMT -5
Get it and master it. It will add great value as a beacon capper too if used properly. Actually it can fill many roles well.
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Post by ipwng0dz on Feb 19, 2017 2:23:58 GMT -5
Just try it out on the test server and save yourself the wsp if you don't like it
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Post by osang on Feb 19, 2017 3:04:41 GMT -5
Mastering Rhino is quite tricky, but after learning how it works, it becomes my favorite toy. The name of the game is to capture beacons and with Rhinos speed and firepower (depends on what you put in it), it can be make-or-break for your team.
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Feb 19, 2017 7:47:50 GMT -5
I have both bots and I rotate them in and out. Both are high risk / reward. Carnage: * Ambush w Thunders - double tap quick kills / oscillate fire on ancile * Mid range w Tridents - very mobile as support Rhino: *hauls the mail to get beacons - you can run w the best *can hold a beacon / block route *shield can be used for others to corner shoot Challenges - Carnage: * Really - REALLY squishy at low levels * very slooooow without rush * if you get caught in the open or out of rush against quick bot - against plasma - you DIE quickly. Rhino: *After I purchased I put out thread asking for advice - my comments where the operating manual must be in Russian - where is reverse in this thing?!? *you have to be VERY aware of you surroundings / blues - you go past a side wall & you get flanked - you DIE - you have to learn to look past your sheild at lower targets *if you find yourself needing to reverse - you usually will be DEAD before you finish that move. * I would try in Test Server first, great advice. I currently run a Thunder/Mag Leo in place of both right now, upgrading them to 8-9 and will bring them back out. Attachment Deleted
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Post by mechtout on Feb 20, 2017 9:15:26 GMT -5
Save for a trident carnage if you dont have one
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 11:48:38 GMT -5
warrobots.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:I%27mWithTheGuyWithTheShirtThatSaysI%27mWithStupid/PDB_rhino_guideI would definitely recommend the Rhino. It's one of the most versatile bots in the game and can hold its own when facing midrange due to its combination of High health and High speed. While it isn't as good as before, it's still one of the six main meta bots. It does require knowing how to use it though. Personally, I would recommend the PDB Rhino once you get the hang of it, but the DB Rhino is the best for learning how to use it. Orkan Magnum is the easiest to learn.
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Post by drjackal on Feb 20, 2017 13:09:19 GMT -5
Did I already mention that I am using a DB Grif instead of my Rhino now?
Since then my avarage damage and win rate have gone up...
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Post by miatahead on Feb 20, 2017 13:47:28 GMT -5
get one and learn how to use it. so you know how to kill one. other than that, it is rather limited nowadays and imho, not worth the silver investment past lvl 9. while griff is probably overall more useful and flexible, there are certain situations where rhino excels.
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Post by ewing411 on Feb 21, 2017 13:00:28 GMT -5
Recently I've noticed my Rihno taking noticeable damage from Thrunders through the shield. Also when the new pulse weapon eventually makes it to the game server those pesky pulse runners won't even have to worry about flanking. Just hit and run every 5 seconds since they get to ignore the shield.
I'm already considering options to switch-out since the likelihood of a Rihno rebalance is unlikely unless the Dev's notice the drop in use. It's a pretty enough for a Swiss Army knife.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Feb 21, 2017 16:51:26 GMT -5
Recently I've noticed my Rihno taking noticeable damage from Thrunders through the shield. Also when the new pulse weapon eventually makes it to the game server those pesky pulse runners won't even have to worry about flanking. Just hit and run every 5 seconds since they get to ignore the shield. I'm already considering options to switch-out since the likelihood of a Rihno rebalance is unlikely unless the Dev's notice the drop in use. It's a pretty enough for a Swiss Army knife. If I am not mistaken, they have always gotten damage in small amounts from Thunders. It's not penetrating the shield... Think of Thunder like a Shotgun. Real world example. Man1 wears Bullet Proof vest. Man2 holds 12 G Shotty with Buckshot. Man1 makes Man2 mad after he insulted his robot choice and defended Pixonic's new MM. Man2 aims at Man1's chest and pulls the trigger. While a majority of the resulting shot hits the chest, many pellets hit various parts that were not covered. Man1 has learned a lesson: Rhino shields do not cover the entire bot. And Shotgun pellets hurt.
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Post by ewing411 on Feb 21, 2017 17:20:58 GMT -5
Recently I've noticed my Rihno taking noticeable damage from Thrunders through the shield. <snip> If I am not mistaken, they have always gotten damage in small amounts from Thunders. <snip> I also recall Thunders penetrating shields a little being meantioned somewhere as well. Maybe MM is under leveling me enough that someone with a 11 or 12 Thunder is doing disportionate damage outside my levels. The shotgun anology is a nice touch. For simplicity I'll stick to using words like "penetrate" because people get confused when throwing things out like ancillary or mitigated damage.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Feb 21, 2017 17:29:54 GMT -5
If I am not mistaken, they have always gotten damage in small amounts from Thunders. <snip> I also recall Thunders penetrating shields a little being meantioned somewhere as well. Maybe MM is under leveling me enough that someone with a 11 or 12 Thunder is doing disportionate damage outside my levels. The shotgun anology is a nice touch. For simplicity I'll stick to using words like "penetrate" because people get confused when throwing things out like ancillary or mitigated damage. HAHA truth, fair enough.
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Post by Sybill on Mar 8, 2017 19:13:07 GMT -5
For some pilots the Rhino seems to be first choice, that one was just on my team:
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