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Post by noobcake on Jun 19, 2018 11:21:53 GMT -5
Hi folks,
I am curious if KotH is it hated equally across all leagues or if some leagues hate it more than others.
Thanks in advance!
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Post by calehb on Jun 19, 2018 11:28:26 GMT -5
I don't hate the Koth itself, but how after battle scores are made. If I play in a way that makes my squad the winer I take few reward points. I suppose a mix betwin damage and capure points should be better.
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Post by kellhound2002 on Jun 19, 2018 11:37:27 GMT -5
I hate it. I think most players in higher leagues understand how it works. But if you play in such a way that you ensure your team wins you get no gold, minimal silver and a couple keys. If you rush every single beacon you get higher pay outs but are more likely to make your team lose.
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Post by CrownBlack on Jun 19, 2018 11:37:51 GMT -5
If they truly wanted it to be KOTH then the fight should be over just one beacon and not five. That I might get into...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 11:38:29 GMT -5
ExpertL and I Like KOTH.
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Post by heavypiece on Jun 19, 2018 11:53:14 GMT -5
KOTH is a different type of game. When my team loses, I more often then not get +points. It's the only game mode I play where it is all about me(except for FFA). If you look at the "Dash Board" after the game it has "Capture Points" not "Beacons". The more capture points you have the better off you are when the game ends. I play in the Gold Leagues at this time and most of the "Team Mates" I am randomly grouped with are all about killing the REDS. Beacons seem to be an after thought for them. So I take it upon myself to capture and drain as many beacons as I can. This way at least I will come out ahead at the end of the game win or lose. I know this sounds greedy and all... but it's KOTH. "KING" of the hill.
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Post by shosakato on Jun 19, 2018 13:00:13 GMT -5
Its never "the game" its always the Players. Wise Words uttered to you to learn.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 13:09:22 GMT -5
When I see KOTH (or TDM).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 13:10:14 GMT -5
The best way to play KOTH is just to pretend it's TDM. Leave the beacons on or off, but flicking the lightswitch is just dumb.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 13:11:45 GMT -5
?3 and no probs with KOTH as a mode, but I have a prob with KOTH being ranked. I think it should be like skirmish,unranked. Many get a KOTH hangar, push it fast and get to Champions League or in general high. Then they get the crates and all the goodies, while the rest are sucking ... to go through all the leagues.
Then and in the long run, they become way more powerful than you getting the expert or master crates and they can beat you, even in the other modes.
KOTH and FFA emphasize on very specific aspects of the game, but this is like saying a soccer player is Champions League cause he is excellent at fouls. I think DOM and perhaps BR, should be the only ones that count.
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Post by windcaster on Jun 19, 2018 13:13:25 GMT -5
Im in Diamond, Never have cared for KOTH no matter the league, but I can't say I hate it. I will play it but it's my least favorite mode.
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Post by kellhound2002 on Jun 19, 2018 13:35:30 GMT -5
?3 and no probs with KOTH as a mode, but I have a prob with KOTH being ranked. I think it should be like skirmish,unranked. Many get a KOTH hangar, push it fast and get to Champions League or in general high. Then they get the crates and all the goodies, while the rest are sucking ... to go through all the leagues. Then and in the long run, they become way more powerful than you getting the expert or master crates and they can beat you, even in the other modes. KOTH and FFA emphasize on very specific aspects of the game, but this is like saying a soccer player is Champions League cause he is excellent at fouls. I think DOM and perhaps BR, should be the only ones that count. Agreed 100%. BR and Dom are more well rounded modes, other modes essentially highlight just one aspect of the game. So it would make sense to have BR and Dom count towards league ranking while other modes wouldn't count. Or at least would have less impact on rank.
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Post by ganjaspartan on Jun 19, 2018 15:09:54 GMT -5
E LEAGUE HATES KOTH
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Post by noobcake on Jun 19, 2018 15:18:49 GMT -5
I guess my pre-conceived notion was false. I had assumed that lower leagues would hate KotH more and that Champions League would like it more. I stand corrected. calehb and kellhound2002 thanks for the point about the conflict between team wins and personal gain. I noticed it in game but could never really vocalize the issue.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jun 19, 2018 15:49:24 GMT -5
Voted in Expert, but I hate it in every league in which I have an account.
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Post by foxypotato on Jun 19, 2018 15:57:10 GMT -5
Pix says lower league players play all modes equally and higher league player prefer BR and DOM. It would make sense that those who have spent the time and energy to build a champ hangar would prefer modes that their hangars were built to operate in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 15:57:26 GMT -5
You WILL play it and you WILL like it.
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Jun 19, 2018 16:40:05 GMT -5
I don't hate KoTH. I hate playing KoTH with my fat lancelot forcibly
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Post by chedro on Jun 19, 2018 18:38:11 GMT -5
I quit out of it every time. It’s a horrible game mode no matter how you paint it. On the other hand I do like hanging out at buss stops... so I got that and koth going for me.
They need to eliminate it completely.
Champ 1 opinion.
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Post by T34 on Jun 19, 2018 18:55:53 GMT -5
I hate KOTH. Cant be bothered to play it.
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Post by inhumanus on Jun 19, 2018 23:40:34 GMT -5
The hate I have for it (and TDM) is two fold, but not league dependant.
First - KoTH rewards more with squadding and communication than Dom or BR. Sure squads enhance all play modes, but when I drop in Domination and see a Treb Butch...I am pretty sure he knows his role and I do too.
In KoTH, several strategies work well, but coordination is key. Are we just slamming our heads into the center to try and gain a sizable lead?? Are we just going full mass casualty?? Are we just using impedment ?? Do we want to burn our beacon fast or slow ??
Second - KoTH mode works better with A. Meta robots, or B. Speed and stealth. So either I need a Meta hanger to obliterate the beacon runners or I sure could use a second hanger of robots that can compete in the same league as I am currently in. That is why I have stated in the past that the 7500 gold per hanger is dumb.
1500 gold per slot for 6 through as many as you want, being able to only use 5 robots per battle makes more sense to me.
I know every person is unique. I really don't have time to schedule play with 5 other people. Heck, I have never had 5 friends at one time in my life.
This game appealed to me because I could (at the time) get a 5 robot max hanger in about a year. I began to spend money as I approached that goal, only to have it taken away. When gold payout began to help me get new robots, I again spent money to achieve a goal of better bots and gear to only have that taken away.
Now gold itself will be devalued again because if I were to skip the silver necessary to upgrade and exchange it for gold, that is based on time. About 1000 gold per day ?? So skipping silver would cost 144,000 gold in the soon to come economy for one item to be MK2.....
KoTH is just a symptom of the sickness that this game can die from, if it is not willing to change.
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Post by cheap on Jun 20, 2018 1:46:40 GMT -5
hate TDM 10min(nobody moving, hydra's waiting, ST being d1¢ks and waiting) that coulda been 2 maybe 3matches of Dom or BR.
starting to dislike KotH but still better then TDM.(i could see maybee Goebbles,Stalin, an the 2nd Kim loving TDM)
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Post by schrotter on Jun 20, 2018 3:43:12 GMT -5
I don’t hate any game mode per se (except for TDM which is plain stupid), but rather all combinations of maps and game modes that favour mindless long range play styles.
For example, TDM on Yamantau is mind numbingly boring.
War Robots was meant to be played (and won) brawling!! Games full of campers IMHO are a waste of 10 min.
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Post by ancelot on Jun 20, 2018 6:17:43 GMT -5
KoTH is killing the game as much, if not even more than this boring, stale, mid range meta.
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Post by pinioseq on Jun 20, 2018 6:45:33 GMT -5
It's neutral
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Post by Shockwave on Jun 20, 2018 9:58:32 GMT -5
I absolutely hate & despite King of the piss (and TDM too) , I want to kill a bunny (jk) everytime I land in this mode.
I'm a Hard hitter, a Powerhouse, a tank, all my bots are pretty much useless in Koth. My best numbers are in BR and Dom because my hangar is build to respawn and destroy anything on sight not run to the light like a stupid bug.
I try no to skip modes to avoid fall in LPQ (Unless i get the same stupid mode 3-5 times in a row (something Pixonic loves to do)). I play every mode the same way Kill everything with red colors I dont care if I lose or I need to capture a beacon in Koth I'll just appear, kill, do silver and get out of there as quick as possible.
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Post by neganur on Jun 30, 2018 21:34:56 GMT -5
I like KotH but it completely dies for me when the opposing team all join in Kumiho.
Springfield and Canyon are too big. You need a fast bot to get anywhere and that means you get picked off by +500m weapons of people who don't go for beacons at all.
(I'm gold/diamond)
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