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Post by Fanghorn on Jun 7, 2018 12:31:28 GMT -5
I'm hoping there are some college age folks (or anyone for that matter) that could recommend a good laptop for college. My son just graduated from HS and will need to purchase one soon. He is used to Windows so he'd probably stick with that. Thanks in advance!
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Post by nightmarepatrol on Jun 9, 2018 10:35:37 GMT -5
Asus will give you the biggest bang for the buck. They reliable and a built pretty well. Personally I would avoid Acer.
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Post by [CK]erazor on Jun 13, 2018 6:12:30 GMT -5
Asus will give you the biggest bang for the buck. They reliable and a built pretty well. Personally I would avoid Acer. Why? |
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Post by βเg קคקค קย๓ק on Jun 13, 2018 7:08:05 GMT -5
Don't buy a Lenovo. They advertise strictly to entice students, knowing their devices are designed to break outside of the warranty. When they break outside of warranty, the parts cost a fortune. An example...2 screw stickers over the display bezel cost around $40. A mainboard from a cheap model costs in the thousands. I used to do warranty repairs on many notebook brands. Toshiba has the cheapest parts and best warranties. Asus has the longest wait times for repairs. Lenovo are the most expensive to repair, regardless of model. You would be best suited to buy from Toshiba. Acer and Dell use the absolute cheapest and cruddiest material in their devices and rarely make it through the warranty before breaking. This is coming from a technician with 15 years experience in the warranty repair business for Notebooks and Tablets.
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Post by selvarajrajkanna on Jun 13, 2018 9:00:00 GMT -5
Buy an all rounder laptop. You already have enough recommendations about brands. So I give my opinion on hardware.
Look for 8th gen Intel processor with atleast 8gb ram and Nvidia mx150 graphics card minimum.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 9:33:50 GMT -5
Asus will give you the biggest bang for the buck. They reliable and a built pretty well. Personally I would avoid Acer. Why? Thus far all my laptops such as Ultrabook and Notebooks were from Asus and never had bad situations. Are they the best I will leave that up to u to decide but they deliver Quality. Depends what gonna user u gonna be. They have their stuff for all such as Business, Gamer, Basic etc. |
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Post by [CK]erazor on Jun 13, 2018 10:04:32 GMT -5
Thus far all my laptops such as Ultrabook and Notebooks were from Asus and never had bad situations. Are they the best I will leave that up to u to decide but they deliver Quality. Depends what gonna user u gonna be. They have their stuff for all such as Business, Gamer, Basic etc. I like ASUS. But with a quick Google search, you'll find countless people that are unhappy with the brand. I can't say bad things about current Acer products. 2014 I bought one with i7-4core, 16GB RAM and some Geforce GTX. This machine is still used for gaming and looks like it was just unboxed. It will be four years old in August. Acer in the past, maybe 10 years ago, produced 「dookie」ty products. But today? They're as good as every other quality manufacturer. Maybe not, when buying a 250⬠machine but in the 1000⬠range, they're build to last. |
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Post by [CK]erazor on Jun 13, 2018 10:11:20 GMT -5
Don't buy a Lenovo. They advertise strictly to entice students, knowing their devices are designed to break outside of the warranty. When they break outside of warranty, the parts cost a fortune. An example...2 screw stickers over the display bezel cost around $40. A mainboard from a cheap model costs in the thousands. I used to do warranty repairs on many notebook brands. Toshiba has the cheapest parts and best warranties. Asus has the longest wait times for repairs. Lenovo are the most expensive to repair, regardless of model. You would be best suited to buy from Toshiba. Acer and Dell use the absolute cheapest and cruddiest material in their devices and rarely make it through the warranty before breaking. This is coming from a technician with 15 years experience in the warranty repair business for Notebooks and Tablets. Interesting. My W520 from 2011 has the first cpu fan, had no replacements aside from battery and works 100% perfect. I doubt that Lenovo builds notebooks that are designed to break outside warranty. Maybe if you buy a 250€ machine. Mine was 2600€ back then, and it's worth every cent. You're aware that Lenovo is using different materials for the cheap notebooks and for the highend stuff? Dell using cheap materials? Again, in what price class? That's a broad statement on your side. I respect your 15 years of experience, but you should at least differentiate between the cheap stuff and the stuff that cost 1000 or even 2000€/Dollars whatever. |
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Post by βเg קคקค קย๓ק on Jun 13, 2018 17:28:16 GMT -5
99% of the materials used in these notebooks are the same. Most share the same parts. These "classes" you speak of are not about the quality of the parts, but the power of the device. There is no notebook manufacturer that is going to tell you "the parts in this notebook is the best". This would utterly destroy the amount of money they receive from devices being serviced. You have to understand that a technician with this many years experience takes these devices apart 10-20 times daily. We know what has good parts and what doesn't. You know what devices have design flaws, which use the same parts, and which particular manufacturers on purposefully deceit their consumers out of money. Fact is this...out of ALL the repairs I have done in all my years experience, the most serviced devices were Acer and Lenovo. The least were Toshiba. Most of the Lenovo repairs ended in a device recycling bin because of the high costs. The Acers and Dells were repaired due to low cost parts. Asus make good devices, I rarely saw them. When people did have an issue with them, they would have it sent in for repair and the turnaround for repairs from them was long, but rewarding. There is no "price class" for the parts used in devices. The price classes are always in reference to power and even that is a topic of much discussion since advertised devices always pronounce CPU Gigahertz as "power" when in truth it's a Processor's Gigaflops that determines processing power.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 17:54:23 GMT -5
When it comes all to that one should decide what budget u have to spent and if he wants to play games on it. Check RAM (need atleast 4Gb for windows 10), CPU, Video Card and HardDrive and if Windows Office (Atleast Word and a big plus Excel) is preinstalled since it comes in handy for students.
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Post by [CK]erazor on Jun 14, 2018 1:38:28 GMT -5
99% of the materials used in these notebooks are the same. Most share the same parts. These "classes" you speak of are not about the quality of the parts, but the power of the device. There is no notebook manufacturer that is going to tell you "the parts in this notebook is the best". This would utterly destroy the amount of money they receive from devices being serviced. You have to understand that a technician with this many years experience takes these devices apart 10-20 times daily. We know what has good parts and what doesn't. You know what devices have design flaws, which use the same parts, and which particular manufacturers on purposefully deceit their consumers out of money. Fact is this...out of ALL the repairs I have done in all my years experience, the most serviced devices were Acer and Lenovo. The least were Toshiba. Most of the Lenovo repairs ended in a device recycling bin because of the high costs. The Acers and Dells were repaired due to low cost parts. Asus make good devices, I rarely saw them. When people did have an issue with them, they would have it sent in for repair and the turnaround for repairs from them was long, but rewarding. There is no "price class" for the parts used in devices. The price classes are always in reference to power and even that is a topic of much discussion since advertised devices always pronounce CPU Gigahertz as "power" when in truth it's a Processor's Gigaflops that determines processing power. Is that so? The W Series was made using glass-fiber reinforced plastic for the display cover and carbon-fiber reinforced plastic for the base unit. The display hinges are metal, of course and the unit has, after seven years of heavy use, no cracks, no problem with the keyboard or touchpad/touchstick whatsoever. The lower cost series used simple ABS plastic. Which may crack. These are known facts. Of course the main parts which are used in a notebook are all of the same quality, as, for example, Nvidia doesn't manufacture grade-a and grade-b GPUs. It's all the same stuff. But then again, there are differences: Is the mainboard made with high quality capacitors or cheap stuff that fails after a few years? Same for voltage converters and other stuff. So the quality of the mainboard makes a difference and the build quality of the base unit itself. Might be your experiences are different. Professionally I got hundreds of T and W Series going over my desk for initial configuration and most of the time, they did the job for 36m until they got replaced by newer units;) |
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Post by nightmarepatrol on Jun 15, 2018 16:40:32 GMT -5
Asus will give you the biggest bang for the buck. They reliable and a built pretty well. Personally I would avoid Acer. Why? I am not a laptop guru. I have however been IT since 1980 and have seen the evolution of things. Asus does a nice job of matching components together for pretty much anything they sell. They will give you something that is fairly balanced hardware-wise. I have a Dell business class laptop from with that has been impressive so far. It replaced an HP elite book that ran well and was great to use on chilly days as it augmented the heating system in the house well. I have seen a few Acers and they have been getting better but overall I think they could could do a better job. Keeping the same price point for them might be a problem though. I can't say exactly why but a a number of people I know have asked me to look at them and I just shake my head. As a disclaimer I am a sysadmin and I deal exclusively with server based stuff which is a a completely different beast than desktop stuff. I'd take what the techs earlier have said with more salt than my opinions as they see it day-in and day-out. If you have any questions on linux installs though... |
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Post by [CK]erazor on Jun 16, 2018 5:21:25 GMT -5
I am not a laptop guru. I have however been IT since 1980 and have seen the evolution of things. Asus does a nice job of matching components together for pretty much anything they sell. They will give you something that is fairly balanced hardware-wise. I have a Dell business class laptop from with that has been impressive so far. It replaced an HP elite book that ran well and was great to use on chilly days as it augmented the heating system in the house well. I have seen a few Acers and they have been getting better but overall I think they could could do a better job. Keeping the same price point for them might be a problem though. I can't say exactly why but a a number of people I know have asked me to look at them and I just shake my head. As a disclaimer I am a sysadmin and I deal exclusively with server based stuff which is a a completely different beast than desktop stuff. I'd take what the techs earlier have said with more salt than my opinions as they see it day-in and day-out. If you have any questions on linux installs though... Now we're talking. We're in the same field except that I've "only" about 15 years of experience. I'm at home in the world of Linux and Windows, prefering config files and writing commands in a shell and not so fond of the mouse clickery stuff. I'm no guru either but from what I can tell, Acer has improved since their relaunch back in 2014. Improved materials, improved build quality. Of course, they're not building Thinkpads, I wouldn't compare a Thinkpad to some Acer Travelmate. |
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Post by eco on Jun 16, 2018 5:59:20 GMT -5
A macbook
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Post by [CK]erazor on Jun 18, 2018 2:20:39 GMT -5
He was asking for a Windows machine though. |
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Post by blueb4sunrise1 on Jun 18, 2018 2:36:04 GMT -5
College age? I am 42 and I just finished university (I went back as a mature student).
I bought myself a fairly cheap ASUS with an relatively old school CPU 5 years ago when I started studying. It was well designed and well screwed together and still going strong after many years of abuse. It has seen me through 24 extended essays, a dissertation, multiple music recording projects and many hours of online surfing and research. It has been to uni and back in my backpack everyday and never missed a beat despite being dropped, banged and spilled on... I even skidded off my bicycle in the winter and fell on top of it with force.
The only downside is that it can't do games because the CPU and GPU are not up to that.
It was fairly cheap too and has been the toughest and best value for money I have ever spent on a laptop pc. The battery life is still reasonable and it's still on its original charger and hard drive.
I would buy this brand again.
As a side note..... I ditched windows after the first year and installed Linux instead which was brilliant but I had to make sure I was sending off my assignments in Windows friendly formats.
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