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Post by DarkVagabond on May 21, 2018 9:13:07 GMT -5
DISCLAIMER: This article is not saying that a Stuka Spectre is a superior setup to other Spectre setups across all situations and modes. It is merely intended to give an alternative to those who are frustrated facing Spectre whales. Special thanks to krebby and inspirace for enquiring about this build and asking for more info on it, hence the inspiration for this article. Youâ??re under levelled. Youâ??re not as experienced. Maybe youâ??re just sick and tired of running the same setup that every single other ?illegitimate child? in Top Tier is running. On top of all that, the matchmaker hates you. There are many reasons why running a Spectre doesnâ??t always get you ahead and most of them have to do with your competition. The majority of your fellow Spectre counterparts have spent money to acquire the bot, which usually means they have also spent the resources to accelerate their levels to Mk2. If youâ??re anything like me, you might not mind spending the odd dollar or two to finish off the last components on a new bot, but youâ??ll be damned if Pixonic is gonna compel you to pony up to immediately max it out with Mk2 weapons, just so you can get any use out of it. And so you end up having to use your new bot with lower level gear than your competitors, which means unless you find a way to use it smarter than your opposition, itâ??s unlikely youâ??re gonna get to experience much joy in using your new toy. And if thereâ??s one enemy setup that kills joy more than any other, itâ??s getting slaughtered by an MK2 Orkan Spectre. Since Free For All mode has been continued indefinitely for the foreseeable future, itâ??s time I share with you guys my secret weapon - the Spectre with Vortex and Orkans, or Stuka Spectre. Wanna talk about niche builds that no one else uses? Iâ??ve been running it ever since I got my Spectre 2 weeks ago and I am still the ONLY one I have ever seen running it in iOS Champion League. The main advantage of this is you donâ??t have to worry about some Mk2 whale running the same setup and beating you purely because their levels are higher than yours. So thatâ??s a big tick in the box there. All my bots are only lvl 9 and my weapons are lvl 12 mk1, so I am consistently outmatched in terms of equipment levels. However this has become something of a signature for my War Robots career now, so I embrace it and level other equipment to 9/12 to give myself some variety instead of enhancing to Mk2. Besides, there are few things more satisfying than sticking it to a bully only for them to realise afterwards they lost to a player with inferior levels to their own. If you are looking for something that does maximum raw damage (be the bully), then stop reading because this build will only disappoint you. But if you want something that, with some conscientious practise, can kill ANY Mk2 Orkan Spectre in those 1 on 1 encounters so common in the FFA endgame, then read on. It may not end up being the build for you, but I guarantee you if you practise this setup it will improve your piloting skills and force you learn how to do damage and get kills without being a bully, but by being a superior tactician. It doesnâ??t matter if you are in Champion League with a level 9 Spectre and no Mk2 weapons, this build will kill almost any maxed out whale Spectre if you use it correctly. Sound too good to be true? Well, it is good and it is true, but it isnâ??t easy. Youâ??ll need to practise every tip written here (and shown in the video) to make it work for you, but like I said, thatâ??s where there the becoming a better pilot thing comes in. You will fail a lot at first. Persist and persevere and you will not only survive an onslaught from an Mk2 whatever Spectre, you will find yourself hunting them. The Basic StrategyIn a nutshell, you need to get your opponent to use their descend ability before you do. This is the key to winning any battle against both enemy Spectres and Inquisitors, which seem to occupy on average around 50% of the bot choices in any FFA endgame. This is where your Vortex and a good cover spot come into play. You need to keep an obstacle/hill between you and your enemy and try to shoot the Vortex as soon as your opponent comes into range. If youâ??re on an open/long map then I recommend running away and maintaining a distance above 300m until they panic and use their descend. In a closed/short map you can also use the option of running around an obstacle. You will need to practise getting a hard lock on your targets and bending your Vortex around corners for this one. Outside of getting cleaned up by a 3rd player (which admittedly is the most common cause of death), in both cases above you have only two possible results if you play it right: either you will kill them with the damage from the vortex, or they will panic and use their descend first. Do NOT always use descend straight away. The longer you can wait before using your own descend, the more time you will have to finish off your opponent with Orkans before your own descend wears off. This often means waiting until their intimidating stream of Orkans has all but reached you, then you should use your descend left or right (perpendicular) of your target in order to avoid as many orkans as possible, while still landing in a close enough position to optimise your counterattack. The video below on Powerplant gives a good example of a typical FFA endgame in iOS Champion League. At the moment Iâ??m running the Spectre with the 2 Vortex on top and the Orkans on the lower arms. This helps the Vortex clear obstacles and not â??catchâ?? on ramps that may obstruct their trajectory. Itâ??s also possible to put the Vortex on one side and the Orkans on the other. This may give an advantage in hitting your target with all your Orkans when their descend ability is still active, but I have had most success unloading my orkans when the ability wears off and they all hit the target. Without having tried the asymmetrical setup, I give my preliminary preference for the symmetrical one, but this may just be a matter of playstyle. Some DifficultiesDo not drop the Stuka Spectre as your first bot. You may get out of trouble early with your descend, but the fact the Vortex need time to lock on and the orkans might not be enough to drain a full health bot means that you will most likely waste your first bot. I usually drop it second or third, and then use it in the endgame when many other players are using their Orkan Spectres. In my opinion you are better off wasting a less powerful setup than running the Stuka Spectre first. Sometimes you will find yourself in an endgame with predominantly Haechis and Bulgasaris. If this is the case then the Stuka Spectre is sometimes not the best tool for the job. If youâ??re already in your Spectre, you can still do very well with it if you can target the ones with half their health. The full health ones are particularly difficult to take down, but you can wear down both the Ancile of the Haechi and the HP pool of the Bulgasari with a few Vortex shots from cover before finally using your Descend to unload the Orkans. Consider shooting the initial Vortex in single shots to force them to waste their dash abilities and get a clean shot with at least one of your Vortex. Shocktrains and Scourge can also be difficult on long/open maps. Find a cover spot and remain patient. Anytime you have an enemy hunting you down, it usually favours the Stuka Spectre, since you donâ??t need line of sight to do damage or force them to waste their abilities. If not, you shouldnâ??t have to wait too long before they get distracted by another opponent, which should be your moment to advance to the next cover point on the way to your targetâ??s location. Patience pays dividends in a Stuka Spectre. If you are really stalemated, you can also consider using your descend to at least advance the cat and mouse game to the next chapter.
Some General FFA Tips 1. Choose the right time to drop your first bot. The bots are not dropped randomly, they are dropped in a semi circle chain. This means itâ??s most advantageous to be at the edge of the chain so that your first bot doesnâ??t get sandwiched by two whales right out of the gate. You can be at the edge of the chain by dropping your first bot either first or last. Many others will tell you itâ??s often best to wait 20 seconds after the match has begun to ensure youâ??re the last person to drop their bot, but I happen to think that dropping it first can be even better as you can get ahead right away and sandwich the player that is 2nd in the chain. If you are unlucky and you try for 1st, but get 2nd in the chain, donâ??t panic. Just realise that your best chance of survival is attacking the player who dropped first and even using a powerful setup (perhaps one with descend) to turn them around so that they themselves end up between you and the person who dropped 3rd in the chain. Lastly, if youâ??re waiting too long and only 3 players have dropped, I usually just go ahead and drop my bot then. As long as you can see that the bots are already engaged in a duel, it should give you enough time to get oriented and decide your best course of action. Keep your eyes above to see when the next player drops and make sure youâ??re aware where they are, what setup they have and whether theyâ??re coming for you. 2. Avoid sandwiches. Once you get settled in your setup, try to target an enemy from a position that allows you to occupy a corner of the map. It is not sound strategy to go to the centre of a map, only to have a couple players die from their respective duels then respawning in fresh bots that take you down in quick order. Try to occupy a corner of the map so you can always see what is coming at you and will limit players respawning behind you and sandwiching you. 3. Have two setups prepared for the endgame, one for long/open maps and one for short/closed maps. As evidenced in the video, many games in FFA are won or lost in the endgame once the 2 least successful players have been knocked out. It might be necessary to favour upgrades for your two best setups for the FFA endgame. The Stuka Spectre is fantastic for smaller maps, but can be equally good for long maps when most of your competition are running Orkans. There are moments however where you are much better served with a Scourge setup, be it on a Bulgasari, Inquisitor, Spectre, or even an Haechi. Having two setups that are durable enough to compete in the FFA endgame gives you more options to assess the situation and choose the best tool for the job. So there you have it, my now-not-so-secret weapon and tactics for FFA. Check out the gameplay in the vid below and share your thoughts. Happy hunting DV
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Post by krebby on May 21, 2018 9:52:36 GMT -5
Very nicely written guide! Thank you for sharing it.
I underestimated this build's strength in FFA duels. I assumed the Vortices wouldn't be powerful enough to justify the loss of 2 Orkans; I was wrong.
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Post by tktonny1 on May 21, 2018 10:31:04 GMT -5
I am sorry i must confess during the event i used my Orkan spectre in a very selfish way. I blatantly used this OP bot to shamelessly extract top 3 win after win.
What make this bot deadly in my opinion is that most players are to impatient. So darkvagabond is right if you jump first you are dead.
Plus when i kill someone in a few seconds (again sorry) they fume and come straight back at me forgetting the other players about in a single mindless rage to extract revenge upon me. Most of the time i finish them both of (again sorry). So my advise is take a deep breath, stay out of range wait till you see my stealth symbol come up advance not to quickly count to about 8 Mississippi then smash my face in.
i deserve it.
|Let me also add i am not a whale my spectre was free and earned via grinding, wsp deals and royale reset.
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Post by hi5 on May 21, 2018 10:58:20 GMT -5
Great advice and analysis. A couple questions based on your experiences:
- What is the min level you recommend for the vortex to run this build? - How often do you get kills stolen when you are softening reds up with just vortex? Would seem like an opponent might focus on your lobs while getting worn down, get distracted and scooped by another. - With vortex taking a few seconds to acquire a target after a stealth, do you find 2 orkans enough to finish specters and Inky’s off if needed? What level orkans?
Thanks - good tips here all around!
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Post by DarkVagabond on May 21, 2018 11:32:58 GMT -5
Great advice and analysis. A couple questions based on your experiences: - What is the min level you recommend for the vortex to run this build? - How often do you get kills stolen when you are softening reds up with just vortex? Would seem like an opponent might focus on your lobs while getting worn down, get distracted and scooped by another. - With vortex taking a few seconds to acquire a target after a stealth, do you find 2 orkans enough to finish specters and Inky’s off if needed? What level orkans? Thanks - good tips here all around! All good questions - thanks for posting. 1. If you are facing Mk2 opponents I think your Vortex will need to be at least level 11 mk1 to be effective. With lower level opposition you may get away with lower, but that depends on league, skill levels and other variables also. 2. I really don’t think my kills get stolen from my Stuka Spectre more than any other setup I run. When you attack with the Orkans and Descend they usually have around 50% health left, which is only interesting to kill stealers if everyone on the field has full health still. If anything I tend to find the opposite. I frequently watch a duel between two opponents and when one is low in health, they retreat behind cover only for my Vortex to lob over the top and steal the kill. This can also be seen on the video. I find I steal way more kills this way than the ones that are stolen from me. 3. I’m working with lvl 12 mk1 Orkans in the video. Most often I find that if the Orkans don’t finish the Spectre/Inquisitor off, then the follow up Vortex volley does. This means you should be careful about Spectres/Inquisitors with Mk2 Tarans as they don’t need to find a lock to shoot you after your descend wears off. Even the Orkans take some time to reach you after your descend wears off and I usually find this is enough time for the Vortex to get their lock and do what any Orkans couldn’t, especially if you didn’t panic and jump too soon after they’ve used descend on you. Obviously you’re better off avoiding confrontations in the tunnels of Moon and Carrier maps. Make those arrogant buggers come to you.
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Post by endyu on May 21, 2018 12:08:03 GMT -5
Interesting build!
I have no vortexes leveled up but now I'm considering the idea because of this.
How does it perform in other game modes?
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Post by maverick on May 21, 2018 12:49:07 GMT -5
Cool thanks for that I like different interesting builds. One day when I get my Vortex's leveled up I'll try it.
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Post by DarkVagabond on May 21, 2018 13:05:19 GMT -5
Interesting build! I have no vortexes leveled up but now I'm considering the idea because of this. How does it perform in other game modes? The strength of this setup is in 1 on 1 encounters. Because of this it does struggle a bit in the other modes as it’s neither an intimidating damage dealer nor can it really challenge/hold beacons against competent team tactics. It’s does ok in team deathmatch, but I think most users would prefer the quad Scourge or Shocktrain setups in this mode. I still use it in random mode, but I admit that it’s an inferior build for these modes compared to many alternatives.
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Post by endyu on May 21, 2018 13:18:10 GMT -5
Interesting build! I have no vortexes leveled up but now I'm considering the idea because of this. How does it perform in other game modes? The strength of this setup is in 1 on 1 encounters. Because of this it doesn’t struggle a bit in the other modes as it’s neither an intimidating damage dealer nor can it really challenge/hold beacons against competent team tactics. It’s does ok in team deathmatch, but I think most users would prefer the quad Scourge or Shocktrain setups in this mode. I still use it in random mode, but I admit that it’s an inferior build for these modes compared to many alternatives. Got it, thanks! It looks like a really fun bot and I'm considering it for my 2nd Spectre build now. I had settled on a second Orkan build but maybe this one will be better for me to add a little weapon diversity in my hangar.
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Post by DarkVagabond on May 21, 2018 13:31:50 GMT -5
The strength of this setup is in 1 on 1 encounters. Because of this it doesn’t struggle a bit in the other modes as it’s neither an intimidating damage dealer nor can it really challenge/hold beacons against competent team tactics. It’s does ok in team deathmatch, but I think most users would prefer the quad Scourge or Shocktrain setups in this mode. I still use it in random mode, but I admit that it’s an inferior build for these modes compared to many alternatives. Got it, thanks! It looks like a really fun bot and I'm considering it for my 2nd Spectre build now. I had settled on a second Orkan build but maybe this one will be better for me to add a little weapon diversity in my hangar. Sorry, I had a typo. I meant it DOES struggle a bit, rather than it doesn’t struggle a bit. Hope you got that still.
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Post by krebby on May 21, 2018 13:41:57 GMT -5
Interesting build! I have no vortexes leveled up but now I'm considering the idea because of this. How does it perform in other game modes? The strength of this setup is in 1 on 1 encounters. Because of this it does struggle a bit in the other modes as it’s neither an intimidating damage dealer nor can it really challenge/hold beacons against competent team tactics. It’s does ok in team deathmatch, but I think most users would prefer the quad Scourge or Shocktrain setups in this mode. I still use it in random mode, but I admit that it’s an inferior build for these modes compared to many alternatives. Your post makes me wonder if a 3-Orkan-1-Vortex Spectre would work better in the Random queue. As we know, 3 Orkans is a terrifying amount of burst damage. Perhaps a single Vortex is enough to encourage rash advances?
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Post by DarkVagabond on May 21, 2018 13:46:42 GMT -5
The strength of this setup is in 1 on 1 encounters. Because of this it does struggle a bit in the other modes as it’s neither an intimidating damage dealer nor can it really challenge/hold beacons against competent team tactics. It’s does ok in team deathmatch, but I think most users would prefer the quad Scourge or Shocktrain setups in this mode. I still use it in random mode, but I admit that it’s an inferior build for these modes compared to many alternatives. Your post makes me wonder if a 3-Orkan-1-Vortex Spectre would work better in the Random queue. As we know, 3 Orkans is a terrifying amount of burst damage. Perhaps a single Vortex is enough to encourage rash advances? Without having tried it, I have seen builds with one Vortex or one Aphid on them for this very reason, but only exclusively in TDM mode. And since you only have a 25% chance of even getting this mode, I’m not sure it’d be worth it. Myself, I’d prefer having the two and target Griffins and Inquisitors, as the two Vortex really hurt of these slow, undefended bots.
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Post by mechaharlock on May 22, 2018 13:15:11 GMT -5
Convincing setup! I’m gonna give it a shot. Just turned in 20k of Vortex and will begin upgrading. The only question is... what Stuka? Not Vorkan? ?
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Post by frunobulax on May 22, 2018 13:40:59 GMT -5
In a nutshell, you need to get your opponent to use their descend ability before you do. This is the key to winning any battle against both enemy Spectres and Inquisitors, which seem to occupy on average around 50% of the bot choices in any FFA endgame. This is where your Vortex and a good cover spot come into play. Very interesting. A clear "outside the box" build, and I love the idea. I got my Spectre a week ago, but it's only level 7 right now (as I'm patient enough to rush only high level upgrades), and I haven't used it even once, so this is something to think about. (Right now I'm running a "temporary" hangar, I intended to run Orkan Spectre but 2 of the Orkans are still underlevelled too so I shuffled my hangar quite a bit.) Two questions: 1. How does Vortex perform against the nimble Spectre if it moves sideways? I remember sidestepping Aphids with ease. Vortex appear to hit a bit better, but I still feel that I can avoid most damage. 2. Why 2 Vortex and not 1? I'd assume that 3 Orkans work better against Dash bots that can avoid Vortex hits with a Dash, and the psychiological effect of coercing enemy Spectres/Inquisitors to jump should be sufficient?
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Post by DarkVagabond on May 22, 2018 15:22:26 GMT -5
In a nutshell, you need to get your opponent to use their descend ability before you do. This is the key to winning any battle against both enemy Spectres and Inquisitors, which seem to occupy on average around 50% of the bot choices in any FFA endgame. This is where your Vortex and a good cover spot come into play. Very interesting. A clear "outside the box" build, and I love the idea. I got my Spectre a week ago, but it's only level 7 right now (as I'm patient enough to rush only high level upgrades), and I haven't used it even once, so this is something to think about. (Right now I'm running a "temporary" hangar, I intended to run Orkan Spectre but 2 of the Orkans are still underlevelled too so I shuffled my hangar quite a bit.) Two questions: 1. How does Vortex perform against the nimble Spectre if it moves sideways? I remember sidestepping Aphids with ease. Vortex appear to hit a bit better, but I still feel that I can avoid most damage. 2. Why 2 Vortex and not 1? I'd assume that 3 Orkans work better against Dash bots that can avoid Vortex hits with a Dash, and the psychiological effect of coercing enemy Spectres/Inquisitors to jump should be sufficient? Thanks for your comments. 1. I am yet to experience the Vortex missing a Spectre entirely, unless it is on an obstacle they’re using as cover. Granted, they could probably dodge them more effectively by sidestepping at a strict right angle, but as can be seen in the video they’re almost always coming at you to try and get in range. If they get hit cleanly the Vortex (at lvl 12 mk1) takes around around 1/3 of their health. They might sidestep some damage, but they can never avoid all of it, especially as they’re almost always desperately trying to get within 300m. Just keep running away at 330m and score free damage until they’re dead, otherwise they panic and use their descend and it’s all but a done deal. That’s what I love about the setup - it leaves the Orkan Spectre with only two bad options. 2. 1 Vortex is not enough incentive for them to use descend. The psychological shock of losing 1/3 of your health instantly is the very thing that motivates them to use their descend, or else die from the next 2 salvos. Perhaps they would get nervous with only one Vortex in TDM, but in FFA your enemies won’t waste their descend as they cannot count on a teammate to help them out once it wears off. If they use descend to avoid your Vortex and close the distance, I almost always find my Vortex get another salvo in 10 seconds later to seal the deal, just as your own descend is wearing off and you exhaust the two orkans. If you look closely at the vid you should see this detail also.
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Post by HarvesterOsorrow on May 22, 2018 19:18:11 GMT -5
Fantastic thread and greatly appreciated. I’m still 1500 components from my 1st spec but there’s a lot of food for thought here. I bought aphids early in my career on my sons advice but I never warmed up to them. Way too many zero damage salvos and I was too impatient to learn them beginning with such weak results. Just for fun and variety I may have to give this a shot and level up my vortex s. Of course if FFA gets lost in the random bin I might not run this design. Loving FFA and this bot looks a ton of fun and reasonably effective.
Now I’ll just need to figure out how to play 350 missles
Thanks very much for the time and effort in this thread.
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Post by moody on May 22, 2018 20:37:06 GMT -5
Looks like a build that I will try once I get my spectre.
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Post by krebby on May 23, 2018 9:24:52 GMT -5
Very interesting. A clear "outside the box" build, and I love the idea. I got my Spectre a week ago, but it's only level 7 right now (as I'm patient enough to rush only high level upgrades), and I haven't used it even once, so this is something to think about. I've been using a level 6 Spectre and it is *already* a strong performer. I think this is a (the?) bot that doesn't need to be at least level 9 to contribute at the highest levels because of its firepower and powerful ability.
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Post by stokr on May 23, 2018 15:31:32 GMT -5
A clear "outside the box" build Perhaps...if the Stuka Griffin had never existed.
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Post by frunobulax on May 23, 2018 16:28:39 GMT -5
Very interesting. A clear "outside the box" build, and I love the idea. I got my Spectre a week ago, but it's only level 7 right now (as I'm patient enough to rush only high level upgrades), and I haven't used it even once, so this is something to think about. I've been using a level 6 Spectre and it is *already* a strong performer. I think this is a (the?) bot that doesn't need to be at least level 9 to contribute at the highest levels because of its firepower and powerful ability. I tried it at level 7, and it wasn't very good. But the main problem are the weapons, the bot previously in this slot used Tarans and my Orkans (mostly from storage) are only level 9 on average. It's back in storage, I'm not raiding my Orkan Haechi for that. (Tried putting the Tarans on the Haechi, but this just didn't feel right.) But my Vortex are completely unlevelled, so I can't really try that Vortex/Orkan thing.
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Post by Diablo86 on Jun 14, 2018 6:34:29 GMT -5
Sorry for the Necro, but this thread brought me here. This is a very good post and the build seems interesting. I'll definitely be trying this out. Thank you DarkVagabond .
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Post by Koalabear on Jun 14, 2018 6:41:01 GMT -5
Awesome article! How does the Stuka fair in the other modes? I'm kinda in the same boat as you in terms of levels. My bots are level 9, and my weapons are level 10 (mostly). I run my Spectre like a one pop assassin bot right now and use it to clear out strategic targets. But, with Vortex, I'm thinking the playstyle would be completely different. My fave Griffin build is the Stuka, so I figure I would run the Stuka Spectre similar to that, albeit with faster speed, lower HP and stealth.
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Post by DarkVagabond on Jun 14, 2018 14:51:34 GMT -5
Awesome article! How does the Stuka fair in the other modes? I'm kinda in the same boat as you in terms of levels. My bots are level 9, and my weapons are level 10 (mostly). I run my Spectre like a one pop assassin bot right now and use it to clear out strategic targets. But, with Vortex, I'm thinking the playstyle would be completely different. My fave Griffin build is the Stuka, so I figure I would run the Stuka Spectre similar to that, albeit with faster speed, lower HP and stealth. Thanks for the feedback bro The Stuka Spectre struggles somewhat in Random mode, where there are other objectives than just taking out your opponents. Of the 4 modes it not surprisingly does best in TDM, but I don’t think this is reason enough to use it here. For random mode I find I do well by putting the Vortex on a Kumiho and using a full Orkan Spectre. Use the Kumiho as an anti Spectre build and target any bot whose descend ability is wearing off. The Orkan Spectre is just much more useful for controlling territory and the Kumiho can double as a beacon capper in BR and Domination. EDIT: this is for iOS Champion League (top tier). At masters the Stuka Spectre may be a bit more viable. In any case, if you like the Aphid gameplay of the Stuka Griffin, I don’t think you’d regret upgrading two Vortex. With the Thermite out now as well, I think you might find some good ways to combine weapons and get creative in using them
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 18:55:28 GMT -5
Great read. I may need to level vortex so I can try the VORKAN spectre.
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Post by spectre9 on Oct 31, 2018 12:54:58 GMT -5
I know I’m resurrecting old post, but I am an experienced spectre pilot and have had one almost since beginning. I purchased outright since my login has been spectre for 25 years.
Anyway, I used to run Orkans but have recently switched to 3x Vortex plus 1 Orkan. Main reason is I only have 3x OE Vortex
The single Orkan is very useful because lobbing vortex and being a spectre will get people chasing you. And they are not expecting that Orkan blast straight to the face.
Definately a build worth trying out especially if you already run 4x Vortex on the Spectre.
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Post by heavypiece on Oct 31, 2018 19:33:47 GMT -5
I have a level 9 Spectre with four L10 Orks. I play quite a bit of FFA and this is the last bot that I drop in to the game. I find that the end game in FFA more often then not turns into the "dance of the Spectres." Which is why I built mine. You are absolutely correct about not being the first to jump into stealth mode, it rarely works out well for me. Even with 4 Orks. Dropping into a game of FFA between two other bots is one of my least favorite things to do. Getting hammered from to sides as soon as you enter the game is not at all fun. I always thought that the drops were random. But I know better now. I will implement the wait till the others are on the field of battle before dropping in. So I have a Vortex that is at level four at the moment. I put it on a few other bots to get a feel for it but never really found a good spot for it. I will put it on one of the top slots on my Spectre and use it to annoy my enemys and provoke them into making rash decisions. Thanks for the post. I know that it is from a few months ago but this is the first time I have seen it. Thanks for resurrecting it Spectre9
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Post by ruavinagigglem8 on Oct 31, 2018 19:45:41 GMT -5
Can’t we try an approach that involves less Spectres being used, not more?
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