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Post by moverlade on Oct 24, 2016 21:36:08 GMT -5
Im kinda new to this game, and wanted to read up abit on the different bots and weapons. And I fell over this forum. So I would like to ask you guys / girls what you would recommend me doing? My play style I would say is agreesssive, maybe a it to agreessive sometimes :-) And I like to go for the beacons which I is the most important part for a win, imo. But what do I know haven't played so long. :-) And I love playing my Griffin. I've added a few screenshots, so I'm looking forward to see what you can recommend. Thanks in advance!
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Post by ShutUpAndSmokeMyWeed on Oct 24, 2016 21:46:09 GMT -5
Welcome to the site! First off, any suggestions for us? Getting beacons and being aggressive is the best way to play this game, more often than not you don't win by not dying If you haven't already check out the beginners' guide on the wiki, it's one of the best resources around for this game. Long range weapons aren't very useful, so I'd suggest saving up for close combat medium weapons like the orkan and taran. Recently aphids have become very strong as well. Good luck!
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Post by Zhøu™ on Oct 24, 2016 21:57:16 GMT -5
A few quick tips: 1. Always level weapons over bots. Keep weapons 2 levels over bot level. 2. Upgrade your hangar evenly, i.e. make sure all the weapons of all the bots are near equal in terms of average level. 3. Try not to let the heavier bot stick out like a sore thumb. The game matchmake you based on your "heaviest" bot, in this case is your Griffin. 4. Keep your WSP (Workshop Points) for weapons first, not bots. Try to obtain minimum of 4x Tarans and 4x Magnums before considering WSP bots. 5. Always ask questions and advice. We are all here to help.
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Post by DogTrail on Oct 24, 2016 23:45:37 GMT -5
Also, try reading up about the tiers. If you like Molots, I suggest using a quad-Molot Patton instead of your Griffin setup. That way you can level up your weapons even higher. If you upgrade any of your Griffin's weapons, most likely you'll start getting bumped up, and be matched against higher level opponents. Stick to light and medium bots (WSP and britbots not included), keep them at L4. If you have a light bot, weapons can go up to L12. On mediums, upgrade only until L9. This should make your transition to higher tiers easier.
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Post by Orukal on Oct 25, 2016 0:49:22 GMT -5
First thing I'd recommend is pulling that Griffin. It's putting you into a higher category that you medium robots don't fit as well in. Get the other 3 into the 6/4 range and then pick up someone to fill that gap. I'd also recommend another medium instead of a heavy. A Boa would be nice to at least try it out, if nothing else. Get around and try out other bots to see what might fit your fighting style. But the Boa is what it looks like. A walking tank. You can also double up on another Vityaz, Golem, or Patton, but toss some different weapons on them. Looks like you could use some rocket practice, so toss a couple Pinatas or PINs on them and start messing with firing ranges and such. Have fun with it all.
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Post by Neg0Pander on Oct 25, 2016 2:08:33 GMT -5
Load that Patton up with pinatas. It will teach you a lot.
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Oct 25, 2016 4:17:59 GMT -5
Like previous posters said drop the Griff for now as it's dragging you up tier wise.
I would personally go:
2x Vitz (lvl 4) with Thunder (lvl 7) & Pinatas (lvl 6)
1 Patton (lvl 4) with 4 CRV Pins (2 @ lvl 7 and 2 @ lvl 6)
1 Boa (lvl 4) with Thunder (lvl 6) and 1 taran (level 7)
Once you unlock 5th slot build another Boa (same weapons combo)
This hangar gives you a solid set of knife fighters and a single mid ranger. Later you can use all the weapons for top tier. Spirals, molots and punishers have very limited long term viability in top tier right now. Best to spend resources on what you'll use later on.
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Post by moverlade on Oct 25, 2016 4:24:12 GMT -5
Thanks all for your replies, I have now (sadly) changed my loved griffin into a boa, gonna fit it with a ecc and taran. And your right, I might need some rocket trading. Just don't seem to hit that well with it, but think I'll try save up for 4 pinatas for my Patton. But now I'll focus on getting my bots to lvl 4 and their weapons to lvl 9 / 12. Any suggestions on what I should equip my vityaz with, as "Shutupandsmokemyweed" says that long range is no good... :-)
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Oct 25, 2016 4:32:17 GMT -5
Thanks all for your replies, I have now (sadly) changed my loved griffin into a boa, gonna fit it with a ecc and taran. And your right, I might need some rocket trading. Just don't seem to hit that well with it, but think I'll try save up for 4 pinatas for my Patton. But now I'll focus on getting my bots to lvl 4 and their weapons to lvl 9 / 12. Any suggestions on what I should equip my vityaz with, as "Shutupandsmokemyweed" says that long range is no good... :-) I'm partial to the Thunder pinata build. You'll want to pop out, blast the red and get back behind cover. If they chase after you smash them with the Thunder at point blank range.
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Post by moverlade on Oct 25, 2016 4:47:55 GMT -5
Like previous posters said drop the Griff for now as it's dragging you up tier wise. I would personally go: 2x Vitz (lvl 4) with Thunder (lvl 7) & Pinatas (lvl 6) 1 Patton (lvl 4) with 4 CRV Pins (2 @ lvl 7 and 2 @ lvl 6) 1 Boa (lvl 4) with Thunder (lvl 6) and 1 taran (level 7) Once you unlock 5th slot build another Boa (same weapons combo) This hangar gives you a solid set of knife fighters and a single mid ranger. Later you can use all the weapons for top tier. Spirals, molots and punishers have very limited long term viability in top tier right now. Best to spend resources on what you'll use later on. So your saying I have to get rid of my golem?
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Oct 25, 2016 4:57:08 GMT -5
Like previous posters said drop the Griff for now as it's dragging you up tier wise. I would personally go: 2x Vitz (lvl 4) with Thunder (lvl 7) & Pinatas (lvl 6) 1 Patton (lvl 4) with 4 CRV Pins (2 @ lvl 7 and 2 @ lvl 6) 1 Boa (lvl 4) with Thunder (lvl 6) and 1 taran (level 7) Once you unlock 5th slot build another Boa (same weapons combo) This hangar gives you a solid set of knife fighters and a single mid ranger. Later you can use all the weapons for top tier. Spirals, molots and punishers have very limited long term viability in top tier right now. Best to spend resources on what you'll use later on. So your saying I have to get rid of my golem? If you like the golem, you can certainly keep it. It comes down to higher HP vs higher dps. I personally liked having the higher HP (at lower levels) of the Vitz over the slightly higher damage output of the Golem. Upper tiers a 10k HP difference wouldn't mean much. But silver tier(s) where wep damage is significantly lower, (I think) more HP is a bigger advantage (imo).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 4:58:21 GMT -5
Simply try out which bot works best for you as knifefighter (under 300m). A Golem can fit also in this role (Thunder,Pinata,Orkan), but imho hes much better used as "500m rocket suppression" (Trident,CRV,Tulumb). Boa is (for me personally) the best medium knifer - simply because it doesnt loose weapons till the very end I'd say go with: 1x Capper (Cossack w Taran works fine till high bronze) 2x Knifefighters (just pick bot that works best with thunder for you (or just take a Boa:P), feel free to experiment with secondary weaponary) 1x 500m rocket support (Golem mentioned above, or try a CRV Patton maybe (most underrated bot if piloted correctly)
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Post by [ita]SirKenzoY2J on Oct 25, 2016 9:10:59 GMT -5
try to focus on what Tier you belong, i suggest you to set your robot up to Low Bronze (tier3) wich allows LightBot lv1 equipped with average 8 (Es. Cossack with Taran lv8 / Gepard with 3x Magnum or Pinata 8/8/8) and medBots lv1 equipped 6 (Es. Vityaz equipped 2x Pinata 6/6 and a Thunder 6 or a lv1 Boa with Thunder lv6 and Taran lv6) where any HeavyBot is slower than any other bot, and where lightbots are extremely aggressive there
Low Bronze is the first place where farm Gold to prepare your next tier lineup (Silver or Gold tier). try to make an hangar with a capper, 3 damage dealers and a supporter (Lv1 Patton with Crv Pin 6/6/6/6 is the best choice to support on mid range)
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Post by moverlade on Oct 25, 2016 18:18:27 GMT -5
Thanks klatschkater and pilotKenzo. But I've made up my mind and gonna follow KaneoheGrown advice / suggestions. Already now I can feel a big difference, now it's me that is number 1 (sometimes number 2) in the damage list. So now I just need to work my way up the ranks. :-)
Then again, thanks to all who took their time to reply on this, much appreciated.
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Oct 26, 2016 0:27:07 GMT -5
Glad it's working for you. Just remember, save save save for your 5th slot. That extra bot will determine whether you win or lose a match quite a bit.
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Post by moverlade on Oct 26, 2016 5:22:04 GMT -5
Glad it's working for you. Just remember, save save save for your 5th slot. That extra bot will determine whether you win or lose a match quite a bit. Not spending any gold, I'm saving them :-)
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Post by moverlade on Oct 26, 2016 10:31:01 GMT -5
Just wanted to show the improvement of your suggestions :-) Again, thanks!
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Post by Zhøu™ on Oct 26, 2016 19:38:36 GMT -5
Very nice!
Try Pinatas on the Patton if you fancy some quick destruction.
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Post by Orukal on Oct 27, 2016 0:55:02 GMT -5
Thanks all for your replies, I have now (sadly) changed my loved griffin into a boa, gonna fit it with a ecc and taran. And your right, I might need some rocket trading. Just don't seem to hit that well with it, but think I'll try save up for 4 pinatas for my Patton. But now I'll focus on getting my bots to lvl 4 and their weapons to lvl 9 / 12. Any suggestions on what I should equip my vityaz with, as "Shutupandsmokemyweed" says that long range is no good... :-) I feel that I should back up a moment and add that my comments about the Griffin were based on what I would do for myself. Always play what makes you happy. My suggestion was based on the fact that if you have a heavy and a medium 'bot with the same level with weapons of the same level, the Matchmaking system will base your hangar on the heavy bot. This could put you in a fight where your heavy fits in, but that your mediums are outclassed. This isn't a guarantee, but it's likely to happen.
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Post by miatahead on Oct 28, 2016 16:42:55 GMT -5
Pinata Patton is a must, IMHO. Once you learn how to use it, you'll wreck peeps on Dead City. I recall mauling red after red with mine. I also preferred mags on the Vitz over pinatas. I wouldn't add heavies until you are ready to go past 4/8. And I was never impressed wtih crvs below level 8. this is all before the speed changes, so YMMV.
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Oct 28, 2016 16:59:34 GMT -5
This exact effect almost ruined my game after about 6 months (put way too much into a Griff and not much else). A balanced hanger is essential, but you must keep in mind that heavy robots count more than medium robots. For example, a level 6 Griffin (heavy) is about on par with a level 8 or 9 Golem (medium). I learned to put my highest level guns onto my medium bots in order to get more 'even' matchmaking.
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Post by moverlade on Oct 28, 2016 18:11:15 GMT -5
This exact effect almost ruined my game after about 6 months (put way too much into a Griff and not much else). A balanced hanger is essential, but you must keep in mind that heavy robots count more than medium robots. For example, a level 6 Griffin (heavy) is about on par with a level 8 or 9 Golem (medium). I learned to put my highest level guns onto my medium bots in order to get more 'even' matchmaking. True, after I removed my griffin from the hangar I'm making top dmg in almost every battle, and I have improved as the screenshots can prove.. :-)
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Nov 1, 2016 8:54:09 GMT -5
Molots on a griffin is like throwing pebbles at a wall. Get something that packs more damage, I noticed you have wsp weapons, get some more mags and tarans. the range is smaller, but like you said, you like to play aggressive, so how about knife fighting? or if you want to keep a medium range,
try a CRV Pin + Tulumbas RDB
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Post by moverlade on Nov 1, 2016 10:18:47 GMT -5
Molots on a griffin is like throwing pebbles at a wall. Get something that packs more damage, I noticed you have wsp weapons, get some more mags and tarans. the range is smaller, but like you said, you like to play aggressive, so how about knife fighting? or if you want to keep a medium range, try a CRV Pin + Tulumbas RDB Im not using my griffin anymore. Swapped it out, as ppl recommended me to do, and like I said before I haven't regretted it. Im gonna work on a Patton with pinatas. But this is what I got so far.
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Post by Vindictive999 on Nov 1, 2016 10:32:09 GMT -5
Your patton is definitely the weak link there, I would put CRV pins on there for a bit of mid range, will help you later on piloting the RDB Griffin.
Edit: I am sounding a bit negative, apart from that your doing really well, excellent damage average and high kill rate!
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