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Post by Orukal on Oct 21, 2016 18:49:12 GMT -5
Ok, I love sticking with AG 'bots. I have a successful 4/7 medium hangar and am developing one that's 6/8 or 6/9 medium (Haven't decided which, yet). I'm not trying to be overly comparative, just trying to have fun.
That being said, I'm trying to figure out what I want to put on a Patton. I know, I know. It's a bit soft, slow, and prone to losing weapons, but I like the 4 light weapon platform. I have Magnums on my 4/7, but I want to try something different. Here are my thoughts.
1-For something of a mid range set up, I was thinking quad PINs. I like the range, so I'm passing on Piñatas. Are PINs usable at higher ranks as I'm already planning out an AG heavy hanger, and eventually a AU/WSP hangar?
2-How about Gekkos? I've never used them, myself, so I'm not sure if I should give them a try.
3-A set of Aphids. This is currently where I'm leaning. I hate seeing that black, swirling smoke headed towards me, so why wouldn't I consider them? Then again, I hate Geps but I'll never buy one. How do they really stand up as a light hard point weapon?
I'm looking for a variety of thoughts. My first thought is, "Go with what sounds fun" and that would be Aphids, but I also want to take into consideration the weapons use at higher levels of play.
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Post by EatStinkyTofu on Oct 21, 2016 20:30:38 GMT -5
I would go with your instinct to try "fun" stuff. The nice thing about silver tier is you can level a bunch of stuff without much buyers regret afterwards. If you're going to spend the Au, aphids are a more secure purchase than gekkos, if you plan to move them up later. I wish I had the Au to play with gekkos--problem is not great on maps with lots of cover, which is about half of them. Definitely worth play with punishers and molots. Cheap, -and the upcoming buff should be interesting
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Post by Zhøu™ on Oct 21, 2016 21:13:00 GMT -5
To answer the questions based on items.
1. CRV on Patton: Very good, very underrated. But in high level RDB Griff is better due to higher firepower and jump ability.
2. Gekko: Don't bother. Only slightly viable on open maps during lvl 10 and above.
3. Aphids: Very deadly, but need lvl 8 and above. And very costly in terms of gold, not a gold purchase priority.
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Post by Orukal on Oct 21, 2016 21:35:06 GMT -5
To answer the questions based on items. 1. CRV on Patton: Very good, very underrated. But in high level RDB Griff is better due to higher firepower and jump ability. 2. Gekko: Don't bother. Only slightly viable on open maps during lvl 10 and above. 3. Aphids: Very deadly, but need lvl 8 and above. And very costly in terms of gold, not a gold purchase priority. I was referring to the CRVs, not the 'bot in this case. Are CRVs still viable in upper tiers? Since you mentioned the RDB, I feel like it would be safe to conclude, "Yes." Also, when you're mentioning that the Aphids are costly in terms of gold, do you mean because I have to buy 4 at the cost of 3000AU? Overall, thank you for your reply. I love hearing what others think.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 21:42:41 GMT -5
CRV Pin on the Patton would be my choice too.
In my opinion the Patton is just too slow a bot for 4 x Aphids, sure you will do huge damage when you score a direct hit but you will have trouble getting into position and getting out of harms way between salvos. Only way I can see it working is if you can rely on friendly units to provide protection between shots which is unlikely in solo play where it is every bot for themselves. They do however work on a Gepard as the extra speed allows hit and run, they can be fun to play but really they are only effective under the right circumstances and in a support role when knifefighters are distracting the enemy.
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Post by Orukal on Oct 22, 2016 2:59:05 GMT -5
In my opinion the Patton is just too slow a bot for 4 x Aphids, sure you will do huge damage when you score a direct hit but you will have trouble getting into position and getting out of harms way between salvos. I completely agree with you there about the Patton being slower. At least I don't plan on using it past 6/8.
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Post by Zhøu™ on Oct 22, 2016 3:01:57 GMT -5
To answer the questions based on items. 1. CRV on Patton: Very good, very underrated. But in high level RDB Griff is better due to higher firepower and jump ability. 2. Gekko: Don't bother. Only slightly viable on open maps during lvl 10 and above. 3. Aphids: Very deadly, but need lvl 8 and above. And very costly in terms of gold, not a gold purchase priority. I was referring to the CRVs, not the 'bot in this case. Are CRVs still viable in upper tiers? Since you mentioned the RDB, I feel like it would be safe to conclude, "Yes." Also, when you're mentioning that the Aphids are costly in terms of gold, do you mean because I have to buy 4 at the cost of 3000AU? Overall, thank you for your reply. I love hearing what others think. Yup, RDB Griff (Tulu and CRV Pins) are still one of the best mid range bots in gold tier. And yes, the gold spent on Aphids are too costly, would be better to get something else like Orkans to help your hangar tremendously at the start.
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Post by Noreceipts400 on Oct 22, 2016 6:17:48 GMT -5
Unfortunately aphids at the moment are underpowered considering the price, but they are fun to use
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Post by tttt on Oct 22, 2016 10:06:22 GMT -5
FWIW, I'm have great fun with my lv4 Patton, lv7 aphids. But you do have to use cover. Bonus is that 'oh sh..!' Moment when you see 24 missiles in a pretty circle heading right for you.
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Post by omgtakebeacon on Oct 22, 2016 13:50:52 GMT -5
Crv pins? You better get a golem with pin/ tulus / trident. Patton = pinata or aphids no more no less So answer to your qeustion = aphids. My advice is to get gepard its an investment that makes gold right after you bought it. I even advice new people to get gepards before 5th slot cause you will earn more gold in faster battles. That will result in a 5th slot even faster than without them. It even allows you to level up your weapons to L12 and still use it in silver tier.
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Post by Zhøu™ on Oct 22, 2016 21:02:25 GMT -5
Crv pins? You better get a golem with pin/ tulus / trident. Patton = pinata or aphids no more no less So answer to your qeustion = aphids. My advice is to get gepard its an investment that makes gold right after you bought it. I even advice new people to get gepards before 5th slot cause you will earn more gold in faster battles. That will result in a 5th slot even faster than without them. It even allows you to level up your weapons to L12 and still use it in silver tier. I still think I can earn gold as fast with my hangar of 5x Thunder Schutzes. I still can use the thunder in my Lancelot, Carnage or even Leo. But it's only 500k Ag anyways.
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Post by omgtakebeacon on Oct 23, 2016 6:18:58 GMT -5
Crv pins? You better get a golem with pin/ tulus / trident. Patton = pinata or aphids no more no less So answer to your qeustion = aphids. My advice is to get gepard its an investment that makes gold right after you bought it. I even advice new people to get gepards before 5th slot cause you will earn more gold in faster battles. That will result in a 5th slot even faster than without them. It even allows you to level up your weapons to L12 and still use it in silver tier. I still think I can earn gold as fast with my hangar of 5x Thunder Schutzes. I still can use the thunder in my Lancelot, Carnage or even Leo. But it's only 500k Ag anyways. True and not so lame as geps
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Post by Orukal on Oct 24, 2016 12:59:38 GMT -5
Crv pins? You better get a golem with pin/ tulus / trident. Patton = pinata or aphids no more no less So answer to your qeustion = aphids. I've got myself a PIN/Tulu/Trident Golem that I use in 4/7 and 6/8 and I love them. I also have a TOP Golem alongside them.
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Post by Orukal on Oct 24, 2016 13:07:02 GMT -5
I went ahead and caved in three days ago and got the Aphids. I do respect and appreciate all of the comments, but the deciding factor for me was that they seemed fun and I'm not planning on getting competitive any time in the nearish future. I have all four on my 4 Patton and started leveling them up from 5 today. My hopes are to have them up to 7 by the weekend. All of the arguments against getting them were much appreciated and I fully acknowledge that the reasons were sound.
On a positive note, I found out that it appears that along with the Halloween update, an update to the Aphids also took place. I was watching a Youtube video about it the day after I picked them up. It appears that they now fire at a higher arc and that they clump more at impact. I fully expect that they will, someday, get adjusted down somewhat but until then and maybe even after then I'm going to enjoy these guys. I loved playing a quad Spiral Patton, but the damage just didn't seem fully worth it. The Aphids most assuredly have the damage, just not the range or full flexibility of fire, which is fine.
Again, thank you everyone for your thoughts and advice. I hope to see you on the field.
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Post by Zhøu™ on Oct 24, 2016 19:32:08 GMT -5
I went ahead and caved in three days ago and got the Aphids. I do respect and appreciate all of the comments, but the deciding factor for me was that they seemed fun and I'm not planning on getting competitive any time in the nearish future. I have all four on my 4 Patton and started leveling them up from 5 today. My hopes are to have them up to 7 by the weekend. All of the arguments against getting them were much appreciated and I fully acknowledge that the reasons were sound. On a positive note, I found out that it appears that along with the Halloween update, an update to the Aphids also took place. I was watching a Youtube video about it the day after I picked them up. It appears that they now fire at a higher arc and that they clump more at impact. I fully expect that they will, someday, get adjusted down somewhat but until then and maybe even after then I'm going to enjoy these guys. I loved playing a quad Spiral Patton, but the damage just didn't seem fully worth it. The Aphids most assuredly have the damage, just not the range or full flexibility of fire, which is fine. Again, thank you everyone for your thoughts and advice. I hope to see you on the field. Great, Aphids are the bomb (literally) right now. Have fun!
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Post by Thump on Nov 5, 2016 7:43:28 GMT -5
You will never regret the Aphids. And I recommend you try them on a Gepard for reasons mentioned earlier. I have 2 at 4/6. It is a very deadly combo and wins most of my games in high Bronze. And I don't use them for support. I am the hunter. Once you know the best spots for cover on maps near beacons its a race to get there. I can take out 2-3 mediums or heavies as they try to win it back coming across the space as I shoot around corners.
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