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Post by RedRaider on Mar 28, 2018 15:50:15 GMT -5
So in death match you're going to try and get the guy on your team who has done the most damage and hasn't lost any bots killed? Why would you be giving a free kill to the reds and killing the guy who is the doing the most for the team? I'm not in expert btw, I'm in master 1 now and was recently in Champion with my relativity low level hanger. If you are in master 1 you should know well enough that max damage is not equal to win ,specially with some weapons like hydras. Currently only weapon which is more hated is shocktrains, however it helps a lot for blue team as they hit multiple targets and sometimes red gets killed due to them ,while he was about to kill me . Although not saying I prefer st over hydras. Even if you are continuously harassing single target , you were last one left in battle field. Why ? Because hydra dont help like orkans , tarans does when teaming up. They are good to harass non ancile bots and kill bots with less hp . Yes even in tdm sometimes you gotta self destruct and take out your other new shiny bot from your hangar to win. Now if you are playing in dom,br a hydra build is almost useless as a smart player will take beacon and would kiss wall waiting for timer to run out while laughing at you. Also I did killed few hydra fujin in tdm when I was using griffins, as I find them utterly useless and annoying weapon ( personal choice) so I do what I want for fun. Those hydra fujins are as bad as trebs builds when it comes to stealing kills during events. Yes Iâll happily annoy them as they annoy me ( on either team). Hopefully we donât get matched in same team if you play in iOS (as I am currently in master 1 too ,just dropped from champs due to disco show) , else sorry in advance . This attitude is utterly amazing. You are annoyed at a build so you will ruin game play for someone??? I'm sorry but that is a classic definition of a 「cotton headed ninny muggins」! First there is the predominant attitude of "It is just a game", then there is the all important "Play your way and dont mind the meta" and finally the push of " Don't sweat the small stuff". So many players rock one of those three when someone complains about a pet peeve of theirs, but then do this! Players tell us it is just a game but then get bent out of shape for a build someone else is running. What is it to any of you what build I am running?? You play your game and I will play mine! Some of you guys are schizophrenic when it comes to your issues. So if I dont like your thunder carnage because it looks like you have 2 cucumbers on your head then I am well with in "fair game play" to push you into fire or continuously blast you with orkans so you cant see the field, or what ever I want to make your game play a waste of time? is that what it has come to?
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Post by grump76 on Mar 28, 2018 16:45:55 GMT -5
I was playing KotH on Yam a couple days ago (not my favorite mode, but I do my best). I was in a Griffin headed down that hallway that leads to the covered bridge when a Carnage on my team blocked me and wouldn't let me pass for a good solid minute. Eventually I forced my way around him only to encounter the same player in a Fujin at another beacon and he tried to do the same thing. This time I was able to jump over him.
After the match ended I realized he came in first and I was second. Was he just trying to keep me from scoring beacon capture points and take the lead? How would he even know I was a threat to his lead until the game was over? Anyone else ever run into something like this? I don't play KotH much, so maybe this is normal behavior.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 28, 2018 17:20:08 GMT -5
When I run my sniper bots I play the ultra-long ranged bots first and fight them mid-range as hard as I can. I even cap beacons with them when possible. I drop that bot first because I do not want to have it as my last choice and be unable to maneuver or fight back effectively at shorter ranges. It's an effective strategy in bot usage as most would agree. But I still get some 「bum-bum」 licking 「dookie」-for-brains that screw with me because of my bot choices.
When I drop my Hydjin it's because I have a hankering to camp a bit and see where the match is going while doing as much damage as possible to the faster opposition. That way maybe my teammates can take them out quicker. I'm not looking for kills so much as the harassment factor. I'm actually trying to be the bait. Many players get tired of being hammered and come for the Hydra chuckers. That's an opportunity for my teammates, if they are paying attention, to hit these maddened blinkered idiots from the sides and rear as they race blindly for me.
Sometimes I actually like to camp. I still try to get the beacons but I'm more likely to camp on the one I can get to depending on the map. Maybe move out towards a second and hammer any opposing players that get close. Because it can get tiresome trying to chase down beacons in a lumbering iron mountain and get little to no damage for Ag. Or almost get there after noone started for the beacons to begin with and have some selfish 「wee-wee」head beat you to them by one or two steps even after they've obviously seen that you are going for the beacon. My very first move is always to start for the first or next closest beacon depending on the map. It's now reflex. Because I hate losing because a bunch of cat turds want to sit in the litterbox at spawn or just want to brawl without regard to the beacons. Even if I see another player pass me in the direction of my target beacon I keep moving towards it because the number of times I've watched that same player get within inches of the beacon and stop short is astounding as well as infuriating.
When other player dare to screw with me over my bot choices and start harassing me in game I bounce. If they do not have the respect to let others play their game as they play their own then screw them, I'm not putting up with it. I'll go play another match and enjoy it while they play one man down. Because they are trying to force me to be one bot down without knowing how the match will develop. I may actually need the time that one bot could have afforded me at the end. And dropping it early cost us the match.
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Post by Gdu4ever on Mar 28, 2018 22:01:30 GMT -5
I personally did this once also to a hydra-fujin, with reason:
that dump@ occupied the best mid ranger spot.
For god's sake, homing missiles do not need a higher platform to maintain LoS. Please leave the spot to teammates for better usage.
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Post by darkknight on Mar 28, 2018 23:24:38 GMT -5
If you are in master 1 you should know well enough that max damage is not equal to win ,specially with some weapons like hydras. Currently only weapon which is more hated is shocktrains, however it helps a lot for blue team as they hit multiple targets and sometimes red gets killed due to them ,while he was about to kill me . Although not saying I prefer st over hydras. Even if you are continuously harassing single target , you were last one left in battle field. Why ? Because hydra dont help like orkans , tarans does when teaming up. They are good to harass non ancile bots and kill bots with less hp . Yes even in tdm sometimes you gotta self destruct and take out your other new shiny bot from your hangar to win. Now if you are playing in dom,br a hydra build is almost useless as a smart player will take beacon and would kiss wall waiting for timer to run out while laughing at you. Also I did killed few hydra fujin in tdm when I was using griffins, as I find them utterly useless and annoying weapon ( personal choice) so I do what I want for fun. Those hydra fujins are as bad as trebs builds when it comes to stealing kills during events. Yes Iâll happily annoy them as they annoy me ( on either team). Hopefully we donât get matched in same team if you play in iOS (as I am currently in master 1 too ,just dropped from champs due to disco show) , else sorry in advance . This attitude is utterly amazing. You are annoyed at a build so you will ruin game play for someone??? I'm sorry but that is a classic definition of a 「cotton headed ninny muggins」! First there is the predominant attitude of "It is just a game", then there is the all important "Play your way and dont mind the meta" and finally the push of " Don't sweat the small stuff". So many players rock one of those three when someone complains about a pet peeve of theirs, but then do this! Players tell us it is just a game but then get bent out of shape for a build someone else is running. What is it to any of you what build I am running?? You play your game and I will play mine! Some of you guys are schizophrenic when it comes to your issues. So if I dont like your thunder carnage because it looks like you have 2 cucumbers on your head then I am well with in "fair game play" to push you into fire or continuously blast you with orkans so you cant see the field, or what ever I want to make your game play a waste of time? is that what it has come to? So annoying red or blue with some build constantly, not helping them ( almost useless support weapon) isnât wrong ? Yes call me 「cotton headed ninny muggins」 if you want but if you annoy me ,Iâll annoy you as game allows you to use any setup you want then it allows me to do whatever I want too. And yes Iâll rather have some brawler helping me out than those missiles sitting at 600m without any risk and accurate enough to hit anything. I never said anyone should not use this setup , but when to mech out is important even in tdm rather than playing with just one bot,however most of these guys are just campers due to which team loose. As I said above, I hate shocktrains too but atleast they help team a lot . Like it donât annoy me when I am at brawling range trying to get kills when a guy at 600m steals it without taking any damage.
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Post by lemon on Mar 29, 2018 1:55:12 GMT -5
WOW !!!.. This is THE FUNNIEST thread I ever read here. Had to reread the whole thing...hahaha. Not only did he push you into the open, I missed that he pushed you across the whole map....haha..That's messed up....Other hydra fujins too...Even kicked in his turbos....hmm.
Bulldozed....Yeah I guess I'd be a little ticked off too. Even little bots getting pushed around. ---- "after reporting the 'pusher' to pix...." ---- "Raijin locks up two team mates against wall" ---- "Pilots pushing campers off ledge"......War Robots tabloid's on fire. Hahaha.....Bump off a ledge....
I never knew you could give a team mate a ride with a jumper...Hover can drop you off in the middle of nowhere. Inquisitor has reds seeing Leo jump... This is too rich.
I thank the author and contributors for making my day. Again, what that pilot did was messed up....Not sure it warrants the chair though.....hmm.. Take care........
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 29, 2018 6:17:52 GMT -5
I had a TDM match yesterday with a tanker. I didn't catch his name, but what else could he be starting a TDM match on Valley in a Gepard with mixed weaponry and standing at initial spawn facing the opposite direction? I gave him a nudge with my Kumiho and dashed to push him, in case he was AFK. He suddenly started moving, but was purposely presenting himself as a target. Yup, tanker. But, at least he was drawing fire for a bit from those of us who were trying. And yes, we lost that game!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 6:29:33 GMT -5
... while ago piloting a Leo with a Treb and Nori's... I hope to see you on the battlefield soon, but not on my team.
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Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Mar 29, 2018 7:38:19 GMT -5
If it was BR or DOM I could honestly understand why this would have happened to you. Though I can’t recall ever pushing a teammate into harms way, in those modes I will gladly stand there and let an enemy kill a camper on my team before I engage that enemy.
Even Hydra users should get to have their fun in TDM though.
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Post by Flint8821 on Mar 29, 2018 9:45:01 GMT -5
Those that push and poke and shoot at blues are even worse than campers. You’re not even doing any damage or contributeing anything useful to your team. I hate camping cause it’s no fun but for Pete sake, go about your game son and don’t worry about others battle strategies. Saying that, I have done it myself when I see a bulgi with three cocktrains in my gold I league. ? Yes, I have some the same with people running Bulgi with 3 Mk2 shocktrains. The reason is because the match was no fun at all, he was a tanker with all maxed out hanger so it was a pretty boring match from my side. Basically a waste of time.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 29, 2018 10:06:40 GMT -5
TBH, 「wee-wee」s that act like this are the only reason I leave games early.
Have had maybe 2 that pushed me or blocked me or otherwise made the game unplayabe, and with the stress of real life already pretty 「fluffernutter」ing high lately, I ain't got time to deal with some petty 「bum-bum hole」 who has nothing more than a pissed off cricket for a brain, jumping around in an empty skull, bouncing ideas off that only sound good to himself since he is in his own echo chamber, self validating his venting of low self esteem on teammates and his actions that lack any real sense of maturity.
No patience for it at all.
I don't run Hydras but I've had it happen to me in a Tempest Lance that I was actually taking beacons with and advancing with the brawlers in... whatever. Push me off my spot? Block me? Troll me? Later. Get your kicks off of another dude, I'll play another match or another game.
In My Rather Salty Opinion, YMMV
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Post by Replicant on Mar 29, 2018 13:12:47 GMT -5
... while ago piloting a Leo with a Treb and Nori's... I hope to see you on the battlefield soon, but not on my team. No doubt. I'm typically playing against opponents with weapon levels that are twice mine. Someone with a Mk2 hanger would probably be much more useful to you. When you're this out-gunned, you have to find alternate ways to be useful. Indirect fire and beacon grabbing is much more effective than getting evaporated three seconds into your clip.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 20:06:54 GMT -5
I hope to see you on the battlefield soon, but not on my team. No doubt. I'm typically playing against opponents with weapon levels that are twice mine. Someone with a Mk2 hanger would probably be much more useful to you. When you're this out-gunned, you have to find alternate ways to be useful. Indirect fire and beacon grabbing is much more effective than getting evaporated three seconds into your clip. You don't think everyone has been there? If you want to be useful, chose a useful weapon.
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Post by Replicant on Mar 29, 2018 20:56:14 GMT -5
No doubt. I'm typically playing against opponents with weapon levels that are twice mine. Someone with a Mk2 hanger would probably be much more useful to you. When you're this out-gunned, you have to find alternate ways to be useful. Indirect fire and beacon grabbing is much more effective than getting evaporated three seconds into your clip. You don't think everyone has been there? If you want to be useful, choose a useful weapon. You only get to choose from weapons you have... And the weapon you choose is only useful if you actually get to fire it. It takes time and resources to level gear to relevancy, and a skilled player will out-strip their ability to upgrade gear relative to their league. The more skill you've got, the faster it happens. I could easily mount weapons you might call "useful" on a Leo and trundle him on out, but at 6 point level differentials the Leo can't effectively engage at short range, and he's certainly not taking any beacons. Take a look at the wiki. Do some math.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Mar 29, 2018 20:59:20 GMT -5
All the time!
Spawn into Yama BR and be the ONLY one who goes for the beacon... 5 snipers standing behind you.
Time to break out the inquis and start trying to catapult them into the field! You're gonna lose the match anyway
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 22:34:33 GMT -5
You don't think everyone has been there? If you want to be useful, choose a useful weapon. You only get to choose from weapons you have... And the weapon you choose is only useful if you actually get to fire it. It takes time and resources to level gear to relevancy, and a skilled player will out-strip their ability to upgrade gear relative to their league. The more skill you've got, the faster it happens. I could easily mount weapons you might call "useful" on a Leo and trundle him on out, but at 6 point level differentials the Leo can't effectively engage at short range, and he's certainly not taking any beacons. Take a look at the wiki. Do some math. Just don't pretend your treb/nori Leo is useful to blues. In the same amount of time, you could have accumulated and leveled better and cheaper gear (e.g. Thunder/Pinatas, Thunder/Punishers). ....stay back where it is safer, wouldn't want to struggle to win, takes too much effort.
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Post by Replicant on Mar 30, 2018 11:45:20 GMT -5
You only get to choose from weapons you have... And the weapon you choose is only useful if you actually get to fire it. It takes time and resources to level gear to relevancy, and a skilled player will out-strip their ability to upgrade gear relative to their league. The more skill you've got, the faster it happens. I could easily mount weapons you might call "useful" on a Leo and trundle him on out, but at 6 point level differentials the Leo can't effectively engage at short range, and he's certainly not taking any beacons. Take a look at the wiki. Do some math. Just don't pretend your treb/nori Leo is useful to blues. In the same amount of time, you could have accumulated and leveled better and cheaper gear (e.g. Thunder/Pinatas, Thunder/Punishers). ....stay back where it is safer, wouldn't want to struggle to win, takes too much effort. In the same amount of time? Work on math and reading comp neighbor. A pinata and a noricum start out at the SAME level. If you're fielding stock gear there's NO time difference. If you're facing someone with gear that's double your level that's a 50% advantage in health and an almost 100% advantage in damage. You're not even breaking his shield in the time it takes him to waste you. Struggle to win? Try harder. Your suggested Leo is dead in less than one firing cycle vs. the Taran Haechi's I'm seeing without having done any damage. That treb/nori can whittle at shocktrain bulgs and enemy snipers. Its not much, but its more than your Leo would have done. That Treb/Nori Leo was a freebie gear from the Halloween event, and a workable place-holder while I upgraded other more effective gear. Stay back? Wouldn't want to struggle to win? Too much effort? Your profile says you're iOS expert. Cap you weapons at 5-6 for a month and come talk to me about struggle and effort. Is Treb/Nori Leo meta? No. If that's all you were trying to say, then cheers! Otherwise all you're managing to do is be sanctimonious and wrong at the same time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2018 11:59:02 GMT -5
Just don't pretend your treb/nori Leo is useful to blues. In the same amount of time, you could have accumulated and leveled better and cheaper gear (e.g. Thunder/Pinatas, Thunder/Punishers). ....stay back where it is safer, wouldn't want to struggle to win, takes too much effort. In the same amount of time? Work on math and reading comp neighbor. A pinata and a noricum start out at the SAME level. If you're fielding stock gear there's NO time difference. If you're facing someone with gear that's double your level that's a 50% advantage in health and an almost 100% advantage in damage. You're not even breaking his shield in the time it takes him to waste you. Struggle to win? Try harder. Your suggested Leo is dead in less than one firing cycle vs. the Taran Haechi's I'm seeing without having done any damage. That treb/nori can whittle at shocktrain bulgs and enemy snipers. Its not much, but its more than your Leo would have done. That Treb/Nori Leo was a freebie gear from the Halloween event, and a workable place-holder while I upgraded other more effective gear. Stay back? Wouldn't want to struggle to win? Too much effort? Your profile says you're iOS expert. Cap you weapons at 5-6 for a month and come talk to me about struggle and effort. Is Treb/Nori Leo meta? No. If that's all you were trying to say, then cheers! Otherwise all you're managing to do is be sanctimonious and wrong at the same time. If you like your sissy build, I'm happy for you dude. Btw, while you're way back there doing whatever, I'm bringing all 5 toward the center, pronto. Best of luck when 4 (or more) reds are steaming your way at the end.
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Apr 17, 2018 12:14:46 GMT -5
Calling out this guy but it's not the first time it's happened to me when using hydra fujin. All my bots are 9 and weapons are 11 apart from level 9 anciles on my lances. I hit random, get death match at the power plant so I drop in with my 9/11 fujin/hydra, march in to battle and let my hydras do their job from close to the middle of the map but behind cover. Just focusing 1 at a time based on if they are heading towards me, knocking down lots of HP and while the enemy can't get to me without exposing them selves in the open. All of a sudden a storm/thunder Lance is using his thrusters to push me in to the open, I'm taking hits trying to get to cover but any way I try to walk he counters it and keeps pushing. I eventually walk backwards around 1/2 of the map while he's walking into me and shooting at me until we were the opposite side to where the battle was taking place. Eventually he heads back over to the battle and gets smoked in seconds while I walk back to battle in the opposite direction around the map and start attacking them from the other side and then there was only about a minute left while I'm the last blue remaining due to him making the battle 6 on 3 for a period of time (one guy left battle early i think). My fujin made it to the end and I did the most damage on our team, which is basically the key to death match (avoid getting killed and kill and do as much damage as you can). This has happened multiple times in death match where people are for some reason angry at me for using my hydra fujin and would rather spend the match pushing me in to fire than trying to play the game properly. This guy was running a gekko zenit Leo and a taran hydra fujin, and got mad at me for my hydra fujin, why? Why are people like this? I could understand if it becon mode and I open using a ranged bot and hide like a ?kitty? camper but, in death match? You’re just lucky I had some words with pixonic about that type of bullying behavior. Some month ago when they messed with climbing abilities of the bots, they made it so fujin could be pushed around by any bot. Man I was pissed when some idiot in a galahad got inbetween my legs at the beginning of the game on snow map and spent 2 min pushing me around while i was just trying to get into battle with my fujin. I had to ditch that bot and two more cuz the dude wouldn’t let up. They said that this kind of behavior wasn’t expressly forbidden in their game play but they would look into it. At least now you’re not getting pushed out in the open with no ability to retreat. So count your blessing. On a side note, those people aren’t losses at what you’re running per say, they’re just pissed cuz they’re getting no backup and getting their butts handed to them. When I’m in my fujin, I always focus on the enemy nearest a teammate that I can hit. I don’t care about getting hit as much as I do winning and I know that having 18 rockets come in one by one helping a friendly take down a guy, I don’t get many people pissed at me, and even then I just back em up, follow em with my shield to see if I can help. They usually let up if you go out of your way to help them.
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Post by >bobby_digital< on Apr 20, 2018 9:22:32 GMT -5
Oh I do that a lot when using griffins. Unfortunately I have full dash hangar now, but if i ever drop to expert ill happily do same thing to any hydra builds that other guy did. What kind of moron harasses a sniper in TDM? Unfortunately, your smugness about your dash hangar is showing...
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Post by darkknight on Apr 20, 2018 9:49:03 GMT -5
Oh I do that a lot when using griffins. Unfortunately I have full dash hangar now, but if i ever drop to expert ill happily do same thing to any hydra builds that other guy did. What kind of moron harasses a sniper in TDM? Unfortunately, your smugness about your dash hangar is showing... Not sniper, campers. Specially hydra builds as they are completely useless. I wouldnt mind some people using them but when to mech out is important. Btw my smugness for dashhangar? Lol I just mentioned it once because you cant do it with dash bots (like make fujin jump for a moment or push it etc). Also if you are on of those guys you better get some brain and know when to mech out even in tdm instead of firing those useless missiles for whole match
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Post by windcaster on Apr 28, 2018 13:37:55 GMT -5
I had someone do this to me in KOTH.. Clearly the motive was to eliminate me accumulating points.
I've only ran into once though.
last night I had 3 team mates in TDM trap my haechi and I got murdered.. I think that was accident though.
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Post by elbowfireuk on Apr 28, 2018 14:09:57 GMT -5
When I run my sniper bots I play the ultra-long ranged bots first and fight them mid-range as hard as I can. I even cap beacons with them when possible. I drop that bot first because I do not want to have it as my last choice and be unable to maneuver or fight back effectively at shorter ranges. It's an effective strategy in bot usage as most would agree. But I still get some ?bum-bum? licking ?dookie?-for-brains that screw with me because of my bot choices. When I drop my Hydjin it's because I have a hankering to camp a bit and see where the match is going while doing as much damage as possible to the faster opposition. That way maybe my teammates can take them out quicker. I'm not looking for kills so much as the harassment factor. I'm actually trying to be the bait. Many players get tired of being hammered and come for the Hydra chuckers. That's an opportunity for my teammates, if they are paying attention, to hit these maddened blinkered idiots from the sides and rear as they race blindly for me. Sometimes I actually like to camp. I still try to get the beacons but I'm more likely to camp on the one I can get to depending on the map. Maybe move out towards a second and hammer any opposing players that get close. Because it can get tiresome trying to chase down beacons in a lumbering iron mountain and get little to no damage for Ag. Or almost get there after noone started for the beacons to begin with and have some selfish ?wee-wee?head beat you to them by one or two steps even after they've obviously seen that you are going for the beacon. My very first move is always to start for the first or next closest beacon depending on the map. It's now reflex. Because I hate losing because a bunch of cat turds want to sit in the litterbox at spawn or just want to brawl without regard to the beacons. Even if I see another player pass me in the direction of my target beacon I keep moving towards it because the number of times I've watched that same player get within inches of the beacon and stop short is astounding as well as infuriating. When other player dare to screw with me over my bot choices and start harassing me in game I bounce. If they do not have the respect to let others play their game as they play their own then screw them, I'm not putting up with it. I'll go play another match and enjoy it while they play one man down. Because they are trying to force me to be one bot down without knowing how the match will develop. I may actually need the time that one bot could have afforded me at the end. And dropping it early cost us the match. I have a hydra spiral griffin and get this behaviour as well - easier to jump away from the a holes but I also can grab beacons if needed - just as the game develops I get sick of trying to brawl with a poor setup and either die purposely or swap to my proper brawling bots not sure what else to use as a mid range harassment / damage taker to help teammates although only my clan get this behaviour so maybe that’s the way - only clan squad battles as much as possible
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