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Post by nycdubs on Feb 1, 2017 11:47:43 GMT -5
Hi all! Trying to build the "ultimate" hanger. I like to knife fight, and I like burst damage. Currently, I have the following: Galahad 7/9 Tara/Mag Carnage 7/9 Thunder Lance 7/9 Ork/Thunder Lance 7/9 Taran/Ancile Fury 7/9 Trident I was thinking of replacing the Carnage with a Lance Thunder/Taran or Orkan (I have both weapons, and almost 5k gold available). I also have a Fujin with 3x Hydra, two Rhinos, a griff, and a leo wasting away. Extra Weapons are: 3 Hydra, 4 Gekko, 2 Treb, 4 Zues, 4 Aphids, 6 Mags, 2 Tara, 2 Orkans - all of varied levels. What should I run instead of the Carnage (which sorta got a stealth nerf with all the thunders around to deal with ancilots..) Another Lance? What should I look forward to in the patch (playing in Android, no test server). Would love some feedback! Update to Lineup  |
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Post by RussiaSKS on Feb 1, 2017 12:02:57 GMT -5
I personally have no experience with the Lance, but I have seen it do very well. If you think it is a good choice maybe you should go with it. That's just my opinion though.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 12:08:53 GMT -5
I have seen several hangars in TT with 5 Lancelots equipped with Orks, Tarans and tulumbas for medium hardpoint or a mixture. For the heavy hardpoint some are using the new Ancile buff, but I have also seen Zeus, Trident and of course my favorite the Thunder. I only have one, but it fits my style of play, to only have one.
You could also think about 2 tridents or zeus on your Carnage, with their duck and hide capabilities they seem to be a good mid-range support bot and very annoying to the opposition.
My advice would be what ever suits your style of play. Even with speed boost, it takes a while as you know to get somewhere. |
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Post by nycdubs on Feb 1, 2017 12:22:27 GMT -5
I thought about that - it sounds insane to put tridents on anything by my Fury to me - I mean, especially after spending 7500 gold on the darn thing.
If I put another midrange >600m bot in there... would a Fujin Hydra out preform a Carnage Zues?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 12:36:24 GMT -5
I fully understand about your Fury, but not a bot I ever wanted, doesn't fit my style.
On Carnage, just making an observation from what I have seen in the wild.
I started before the 4 leggers were even around, and also never got one. I do know with their slow mobility a fast Carnage can hit, move and hit again and the Fujin won't be on the battle field anymore. Again, it's what fits into your style of play.
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Post by nycdubs on Feb 1, 2017 12:37:35 GMT -5
I hear you. I like leading with the fury on some maps, and after 2-3 minutes getting it blown up after taking out the rhinos rushing into the center. Thinking the Fury is a perm bot in my lineup.
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Post by nycdubs on Feb 1, 2017 12:38:23 GMT -5
I personally have no experience with the Lance, but I have seen it do very well. If you think it is a good choice maybe you should go with it. That's just my opinion though. Then what good are you! |
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Post by nycdubs on Feb 1, 2017 12:39:52 GMT -5
I fully understand about your Fury, but not a bot I ever wanted, doesn't fit my style. On Carnage, just making an observation from what I have seen in the wild. I started before the 4 leggers were even around, and also never got one. I do know with their slow mobility a fast Carnage can hit, move and hit again and the Fujin won't be on the battle field anymore. Again, it's what fits into your style of play. Are you saying that instead of a fujin, run a second midrange bot, i.e., carnage zues? |
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Post by pj on Feb 1, 2017 12:40:12 GMT -5
I'd add in an extra rocket bot. Perhaps a DB or RDB Griffon but that's just me.
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Post by nycdubs on Feb 1, 2017 12:41:38 GMT -5
I'd add in an extra rocket bot. Perhaps a DB or RDB Griffon but that's just me. Instead of the third lance? Or instead of the Galahad.? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 12:42:57 GMT -5
Run another Lance. Hell, run 5 of them. Where you are at in the scheme of things, you can pretty much count on someone else bringing the mid-long range stuff.
A rocket Galahad would be another way to round out your roster if you felt the need for a little more agility/flexibility.
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Feb 1, 2017 12:44:42 GMT -5
Or try a hellfire rhino. I have mine in about two hours.
Then it is just leveling the weapons a little and the bot a little Mord.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 12:47:26 GMT -5
I would never say what to run for another player, just putting out there some food for thought from my observations.
The ultimate decision will always be yours.
I'm sure other players will give you other opinions and observations from their game play.
Wait awhile and then decide what's best for you. By the way in top tier I have seen a hangar with 5 Fury's equipped with Trebuchet, Trident, and Zeus. This is what makes this player happy.
Main problem too many options and you just have to narrow it down to what fits your style of play.
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Post by nycdubs on Feb 1, 2017 12:47:54 GMT -5
Or try a hellfire rhino. I have mine in about two hours. Then it is just leveling the weapons a little and the bot a little Mord. Screw Rhinos. I have two rotting I'll never use again. Griff/Lance better in nearly every way. |
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Post by pj on Feb 1, 2017 12:47:57 GMT -5
I'd add in an extra rocket bot. Perhaps a DB or RDB Griffon but that's just me. Instead of the third lance? Or instead of the Galahad.? Either or, you're plasma heavy. I often find that due to the overabundance of shielded bots, it's good to have a good balance between splash and plasma. Either the Right Hand smack Galahad or the Rocket Lance with either a Thunder or Zeus as an alternative |
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Post by ivx on Feb 1, 2017 12:50:25 GMT -5
If it suits your play style why not. I've seen quite a few people running 3-5 of them.
Personally, 3 would be too slow for me. I asked about using 2 the other day and changed my mind because someone correctly pointed out that a Griffin may be a better idea speed-wise. But if you're after damage and know how to use Lance effectively, by all means do.
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Post by nycdubs on Feb 1, 2017 12:51:47 GMT -5
This is what makes this player happy. Main problem too many options and you just have to narrow it down to what fits your style of play. What makes me happy is doing the most damage and owning face. |
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Post by nycdubs on Feb 1, 2017 12:53:22 GMT -5
Does anyone have a link to a spreadsheet showing bot damage with optimal dps setups? The one I found excludes Lancelot.
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Post by nycdubs on Feb 1, 2017 12:56:49 GMT -5
Instead of the third lance? Or instead of the Galahad.? Either or, you're plasma heavy. I often find that due to the overabundance of shielded bots, it's good to have a good balance between splash and plasma. Either the Right Hand smack Galahad or the Rocket Lance with either a Thunder or Zeus as an alternative The Plasma Shield is a non issue when using a Thunder. It might as well not exist for intensive purposes - its the physical shield that ?firetruck?s me over with a taran setup. So... Fujin Trip Taran or Carnage Zues Or Galahad Taran/Mag? Lance Ork/Thunder Lance Ork/Thunder Lance Taran/Ancile Fury Trident |
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Post by petevb on Feb 1, 2017 13:38:43 GMT -5
Running three Lance slows a hanger down considerably. If you're going directly to center and brawling constantly you can make it work, but in my experience it often makes a hanger too slow to get every bot into action, especially on more open maps. Thus I'd go for something faster for that slot. A second Plasma Galahad, a Doc or a Griff (Aphids Orks is probably top currently) would be my first choices. If you go with the Doc I find 4x Tulu or 4x Ork very effective, the former run as a flanker on open maps (target Galahad). All from a Top tier, maxed bots perspective.
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Post by pj on Feb 1, 2017 14:32:07 GMT -5
Either or, you're plasma heavy. I often find that due to the overabundance of shielded bots, it's good to have a good balance between splash and plasma. Either the Right Hand smack Galahad or the Rocket Lance with either a Thunder or Zeus as an alternative The Plasma Shield is a non issue when using a Thunder. It might as well not exist for intensive purposes - its the physical shield that ?firetruck?s me over with a taran setup. So... Fujin Trip Taran or Carnage Zues Or Galahad Taran/Mag? Lance Ork/Thunder Lance Ork/Thunder Lance Taran/Ancile Fury Trident I was referring to physical shields. Thus a Right hand smack Galahad if you prefer a bit more speed or the 3rd Lance with Orks and the Thunder since you already have a Thunder on your Carnage. Replace the carnie with whatever you choose. |
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Post by shivaswrath on Feb 1, 2017 15:42:34 GMT -5
PlasmaHAD!!!
Don't get another Lance, you're effective beacon capture rate goes down a lot with that in your hangar..(but that's why you aren't running your Rhino much, right??!!)
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Post by nycdubs on Feb 1, 2017 16:28:56 GMT -5
Okay. So this is final lineup! I'd LOVE some feedback, suggestions, on making this better or filling a gap somewhere. Obviously the first bot is a carnage, not a fujin.  |
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Post by nycdubs on Feb 1, 2017 16:30:37 GMT -5
I'm open to any alteration to the lances, as well as changing out the carnage... for something fast and high dps.
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Post by Mechronis on Feb 1, 2017 16:38:02 GMT -5
Buy a FOrk. It melts anything it comes into contact with.
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Post by ernstuebermuth on Feb 1, 2017 16:40:43 GMT -5
I like diversity in my hangar while preferring mobility and beacon capping.
My hangar contributes to this playstyle.
Your playstyle seems to aim for the highest damage output - so a lancelot will definitely a be an improvement by replacing the carnage. On the other side 3 lances will restrict you more to the brawler / tanker role. Unless you dont feel a gap in your playstyle a 3rd lance is a solid choice with the fury cover midrange and the gala a fast option. Really a question of playstyle though...
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Post by nycdubs on Feb 1, 2017 16:41:03 GMT -5
Buy a FOrk. It melts anything it comes into contact with. What is a FOrk? |
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Post by nycdubs on Feb 1, 2017 16:43:15 GMT -5
I like diversity in my hangar while preferring mobility and beacon capping. My hangar contributes to this playstyle. Your playstyle seems to aim for the highest damage output - so a lancelot will definitely a be an improvement by replacing the carnage. On the other side 3 lances will restrict you more to the brawler / tanker role. Unless you dont feel a gap in your playstyle a 3rd lance is a solid choice with the fury cover midrange and the gala a fast option. Really a question of playstyle though... Believe it or not, I usually cap the most beacons or tie with a heavy lineup. I just go right to a beacon that isn't' my color and try to kill everything I see in my way. Or I'm in a squad and we have someone with a stalker for this purpose. |
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Post by ernstuebermuth on Feb 1, 2017 16:44:34 GMT -5
Ah no. I wouldnt replace the gala. Take out the carnage, i has almost the same characteristics lile the lance, just weaker.
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Post by Mechronis on Feb 1, 2017 16:45:22 GMT -5
Buy a FOrk. It melts anything it comes into contact with. What is a FOrk? A Fujin Orkan. It is the bane of those whom it catches. |
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