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Post by uberpawn on Dec 20, 2017 13:28:27 GMT -5
As in topic, I found very disturbing maner of some players, who just joining game to change robots few times in first seconds of game... Its like 5vs6 game, what is it all about?! Some huge server problem, or?
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Post by amidf on Dec 20, 2017 13:33:59 GMT -5
These poor players are forced by Pixonic to screw over their teammates in order to drop leagues and beat up on weak competition. They are in no way responsible for the harm they cause to the gaming experience of others, as there is not sufficient disincentive besides basic human decency for them to do this.
The last thing we should do is shame these players, since they can do whatever they want in the game, but the same social mores they ignore are strongly applicable for shaming posts on gaming forums.
Or something like that.
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Post by jhonsnow on Dec 20, 2017 14:05:58 GMT -5
As in topic, I found very disturbing maner of some players, who just joining game to change robots few times in first seconds of game... Its like 5vs6 game, what is it all about?! Some huge server problem, or? Welcome to Walking War Robots....
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Post by Loganspawn on Dec 20, 2017 14:58:40 GMT -5
These poor players are forced by Pixonic to screw over their teammates in order to drop leagues and beat up on weak competition. They are in no way responsible for the harm they cause to the gaming experience of others, as there is not sufficient disincentive besides basic human decency for them to do this. The last thing we should do is shame these players, since they can do whatever they want in the game, but the same social mores they ignore are strongly applicable for shaming posts on gaming forums. Or something like that. HAHAHA nice sarcasm. So very PC as I just say there are turds out here being selfish ruining the game for others.
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Post by Scuzzbopper on Dec 20, 2017 15:17:41 GMT -5
I've been in matches where there are 4 dash robots on the ground at spawn and the 5th caps a beacon or dusts a 'bot then sits there to be destroyed.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Dec 20, 2017 15:46:04 GMT -5
There are many reasons pilots might do this. With respect to events, consider:
During the events, unfortunately Pixonic sets up unrealistic task threads that are really difficult to complete without playing for hours and hours everyday. So, in order to get through the tasks more quickly, there are things a pilot can do that unfortunately impact teamwork, and is one of the reasons Wins are the most challenging task. For beacon task, some pilots will grab first couple beacons then either leave or bot-out so they can get to the next match quickly to grab more beacons and continue like this til they complete that task. Another example is if a pilot is on wins and the team is terrible or it is clear it will be a loss, they will bot-out quick to get to a new match to try a win there.
As much as this behavior sucks, I am much more understanding of it in the event context. Blame the devs for unrealistic task chains, not the pilots with limited time trying hard as hell to get through the tasks as quickly as they can with whatever time they have.
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Post by Domino on Dec 20, 2017 16:23:58 GMT -5
There are many reasons pilots might do this. With respect to events, consider: During the events, unfortunately Pixonic sets up unrealistic task threads that are really difficult to complete without playing for hours and hours everyday. So, in order to get through the tasks more quickly, there are things a pilot can do that unfortunately impact teamwork, and is one of the reasons Wins are the most challenging task. For beacon task, some pilots will grab first couple beacons then either leave or bot-out so they can get to the next match quickly to grab more beacons and continue like this til they complete that task. Another example is if a pilot is on wins and the team is terrible or it is clear it will be a loss, they will bot-out quick to get to a new match to try a win there. As much as this behavior sucks, I am much more understanding of it in the event context. Blame the devs for unrealistic task chains, not the pilots with limited time trying hard as hell to get through the tasks as quickly as they can with whatever time they have. A gun is not held to anyone's head to finish the tasks. Everyone is responsible for their own actions.
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Dec 20, 2017 16:31:06 GMT -5
They are tanking, and it becomes far more common during events. They ditch bots until they are on the last one, and then run their last bot into its quick death. Usually being able to leave in about 30 seconds without ending up in LPQ, because after all they did mech out.
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Post by Bui Dui on Dec 20, 2017 16:35:10 GMT -5
There are many reasons pilots might do this. With respect to events, consider: During the events, unfortunately Pixonic sets up unrealistic task threads that are really difficult to complete without playing for hours and hours everyday. So, in order to get through the tasks more quickly, there are things a pilot can do that unfortunately impact teamwork, and is one of the reasons Wins are the most challenging task. For beacon task, some pilots will grab first couple beacons then either leave or bot-out so they can get to the next match quickly to grab more beacons and continue like this til they complete that task. Another example is if a pilot is on wins and the team is terrible or it is clear it will be a loss, they will bot-out quick to get to a new match to try a win there. As much as this behavior sucks, I am much more understanding of it in the event context. Blame the devs for unrealistic task chains, not the pilots with limited time trying hard as hell to get through the tasks as quickly as they can with whatever time they have. A gun is not held to anyone's head to finish the tasks. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. Well, if you say it like that, there are some dash bots with shocktrains keeping us at gunpoint, so if getting the prizes is the only way to counter them... Tanking is terrible, anyway.
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Post by U Camp = I Camp on Dec 20, 2017 16:42:15 GMT -5
There are many reasons pilots might do this. With respect to events, consider: During the events, unfortunately Pixonic sets up unrealistic task threads that are really difficult to complete without playing for hours and hours everyday. So, in order to get through the tasks more quickly, there are things a pilot can do that unfortunately impact teamwork, and is one of the reasons Wins are the most challenging task. For beacon task, some pilots will grab first couple beacons then either leave or bot-out so they can get to the next match quickly to grab more beacons and continue like this til they complete that task. Another example is if a pilot is on wins and the team is terrible or it is clear it will be a loss, they will bot-out quick to get to a new match to try a win there. As much as this behavior sucks, I am much more understanding of it in the event context. Blame the devs for unrealistic task chains, not the pilots with limited time trying hard as hell to get through the tasks as quickly as they can with whatever time they have. THIS. Very succinct. In summary, "don't hate the player, hate the game."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 16:49:47 GMT -5
Tanking and events.
Blame Pixonic. First, stupid tier levels based on win/loss which is the worst way to gauge individual players in a team game makes for tankers and seal clubbers. Second, the LQ as stated above. People will play one bot to get a little damage and then die to help lose thus reducing their "skill level" without getting thrown in LQ. Third, the events requirements. Beacon capping, kill stealing, and just hoping that your depleted team can eek out a win while you hose the next team by meching out early and leaving.
All together it means stupid devs. All these issues meld together due to Pixonic not understanding matchmaking and skill levels.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Dec 20, 2017 16:52:17 GMT -5
There are many reasons pilots might do this. With respect to events, consider: During the events, unfortunately Pixonic sets up unrealistic task threads that are really difficult to complete without playing for hours and hours everyday. So, in order to get through the tasks more quickly, there are things a pilot can do that unfortunately impact teamwork, and is one of the reasons Wins are the most challenging task. For beacon task, some pilots will grab first couple beacons then either leave or bot-out so they can get to the next match quickly to grab more beacons and continue like this til they complete that task. Another example is if a pilot is on wins and the team is terrible or it is clear it will be a loss, they will bot-out quick to get to a new match to try a win there. As much as this behavior sucks, I am much more understanding of it in the event context. Blame the devs for unrealistic task chains, not the pilots with limited time trying hard as hell to get through the tasks as quickly as they can with whatever time they have. A gun is not held to anyone's head to finish the tasks. Everyone is responsible for their own actions.
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Post by Domino on Dec 20, 2017 17:20:06 GMT -5
A gun is not held to anyone's head to finish the tasks. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. People are getting it done with several days to spare. I wonder what would have happen if they actually did it without tanking?
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Post by amidf on Dec 20, 2017 17:21:41 GMT -5
I just want it noted for the record that I blamed Pixonic before any of the usual suspects had even found this thread.
Unfortunately I only mentioned tanking. I must amend to state that Pixonic may also have made him eject out of his bots by offering free content but making it hard to get through means that are respectful of other players' time and effort. When someone drops $100 on the street and you pick it up without alerting them, it's OK because $100 is pretty hard to get. If they drop $5 and you do the same, you are a jerk.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 20:11:32 GMT -5
As in topic, I found very disturbing maner of some players, who just joining game to change robots few times in first seconds of game... Its like 5vs6 game, what is it all about?! Some huge server problem, or? What I noticed: Domination mode: people grab 1-3 beacons, then eject all the other bots and suicide rush the last one and these people are obviously on beacon task. I don't really mind, I don't blame them for these boring chores slapped together by a greedy sloth from the Pixonic Zoo...err Office. Beacon Rush: well here, people are looking for wins, kills and beacon swappers. To be honest the people willing to beacon swap should do it in domination mode, not BR for less interruption from teammates. I swear every time I find a beacon swapper in the red team, it's always interrupted by our stupid teammates.
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Post by dash4win on Dec 21, 2017 4:13:16 GMT -5
There are many reasons pilots might do this. With respect to events, consider: During the events, unfortunately Pixonic sets up unrealistic task threads that are really difficult to complete without playing for hours and hours everyday. So, in order to get through the tasks more quickly, there are things a pilot can do that unfortunately impact teamwork, and is one of the reasons Wins are the most challenging task. For beacon task, some pilots will grab first couple beacons then either leave or bot-out so they can get to the next match quickly to grab more beacons and continue like this til they complete that task. Another example is if a pilot is on wins and the team is terrible or it is clear it will be a loss, they will bot-out quick to get to a new match to try a win there. As much as this behavior sucks, I am much more understanding of it in the event context. Blame the devs for unrealistic task chains, not the pilots with limited time trying hard as hell to get through the tasks as quickly as they can with whatever time they have. I found a lot of people who threw the game so hard for the beacon task . Even if i was running a hangar full of cossack with a kumiho i always manage to stay all the game long and doing my job right : capping beacon . i was not leaving the game after capping the first 2 beacon like so many did . I took some screenshot of my beacon journey : take a look
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Post by ironstar on Dec 21, 2017 6:28:25 GMT -5
Yeah sometimes you are able to get a buttload of beacons in the same game. Usually on Moon or PP I find. Had one game on Moon with 16 beacons without swapping. Just ran around in my two rogs and capped constantly
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Dec 21, 2017 6:38:19 GMT -5
As in topic, I found very disturbing maner of some players, who just joining game to change robots few times in first seconds of game... Its like 5vs6 game, what is it all about?! Some huge server problem, or? What I noticed: Domination mode: people grab 1-3 beacons, then eject all the other bots and suicide rush the last one and these people are obviously on beacon task. I don't really mind, I don't blame them for these boring chores slapped together by a greedy sloth from the Pixonic Zoo...err Office. Beacon Rush: well here, people are looking for wins, kills and beacon swappers. To be honest the people willing to beacon swap should do it in domination mode, not BR for less interruption from teammates. I swear every time I find a beacon swapper in the red team, it's always interrupted by our stupid teammates. People don't beacon swap in BR, and of thet do, they only do it once!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 6:59:36 GMT -5
FlashAhAhhYes they do, you won't believe me but I've done beacon swap with a red Roachi in my Hover bot in Powerplant BR. We used the A beacon where the shipwreck is to do beacon swap, I chose the smart decision to not fire my Orkans at him when I encountered him (obviously I won't win) so he got the message and I got 11 beacons and he got 13.
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Post by seanh on Dec 21, 2017 7:06:26 GMT -5
What I noticed: Domination mode: people grab 1-3 beacons, then eject all the other bots and suicide rush the last one and these people are obviously on beacon task. I don't really mind, I don't blame them for these boring chores slapped together by a greedy sloth from the Pixonic Zoo...err Office. Beacon Rush: well here, people are looking for wins, kills and beacon swappers. To be honest the people willing to beacon swap should do it in domination mode, not BR for less interruption from teammates. I swear every time I find a beacon swapper in the red team, it's always interrupted by our stupid teammates. People don't beacon swap in BR, and of thet do, they only do it once!! Ylu wou.d be suprised, droped in on two guys at it in a BR game,corner of valley, droped in a lance melted a cossack and had a pissed blue stalker shooting at me. I was on a win task, had to be done.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 7:32:04 GMT -5
People don't beacon swap in BR, and of thet do, they only do it once!! Ylu wou.d be suprised, droped in on two guys at it in a BR game,corner of valley, droped in a lance melted a cossack and had a pissed blue stalker shooting at me. I was on a win task, had to be done. I'm glad TDM is here, no need to cease fire when I see a Cossack, stalker or destrier doing beacon tasks (my own rule). I was in a similar situation like the stalker, I got annoyed at the blue Leo shooting the red ecu cossack doing beacon swap with me so I blocked the blue Leo's way and the ECU cossack managed to get away, but still got killed by a blue griffin sighs. Chaotic mess thanks to Pixonic.
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Post by Bui Dui on Dec 21, 2017 7:52:46 GMT -5
As in topic, I found very disturbing maner of some players, who just joining game to change robots few times in first seconds of game... Its like 5vs6 game, what is it all about?! Some huge server problem, or? What I noticed: Domination mode: people grab 1-3 beacons, then eject all the other bots and suicide rush the last one and these people are obviously on beacon task. I don't really mind, I don't blame them for these boring chores slapped together by a greedy sloth from the Pixonic Zoo...err Office. Beacon Rush: well here, people are looking for wins, kills and beacon swappers. To be honest the people willing to beacon swap should do it in domination mode, not BR for less interruption from teammates. I swear every time I find a beacon swapper in the red team, it's always interrupted by our stupid teammates. Maybe I'm on a kill mission. It's real fun to get close to those swappers that think I'm going to do their thing just to destroy them from up close without taking damage myself. Or maybe I want those 5 Au for capping beacons more than you. Maybe I have earned them more by not swapping beacons and capping them the way they should've been capped. There will be no beacon swapping when I'm around
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Post by amidf on Dec 21, 2017 9:39:36 GMT -5
I'm glad TDM is here, no need to cease fire when I see a Cossack, stalker or destrier doing beacon tasks (my own rule). I was in a similar situation like the stalker, I got annoyed at the blue Leo shooting the red ecu cossack doing beacon swap with me so I blocked the blue Leo's way and the ECU cossack managed to get away, but still got killed by a blue griffin sighs. Chaotic mess thanks to Pixonic. Yes! YES! "Pixonic made me do it." Everyone say it now.
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Post by cmdrperalta on Dec 21, 2017 10:17:57 GMT -5
I'm glad TDM is here, no need to cease fire when I see a Cossack, stalker or destrier doing beacon tasks (my own rule). I was in a similar situation like the stalker, I got annoyed at the blue Leo shooting the red ecu cossack doing beacon swap with me so I blocked the blue Leo's way and the ECU cossack managed to get away, but still got killed by a blue griffin sighs. Chaotic mess thanks to Pixonic. Yes! YES! "Pixonic made me do it." Everyone say it now. Repeat after me: I am not responsible for my own actions. Perceived unfairness in the universe totally justifies my own bad behavior. It is impossible to complete tasks without tanking and clubbing. Chant 5 times daily to wipe away all traces of cognitive dissonance. Honestly, I don't even care anymore. Tankers are just white noise in games now and I take great pride in killing clubbers.
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Post by oneleg on Dec 21, 2017 15:37:47 GMT -5
Hi. My kid have used my acc, (now i have made him a own acc on his ipad, only 6 years old. ) but my problem is like you have wrote, he probably have left game some times and started new. But problem i got is i have got a kind of penaltie. I cant get into games. Takes like 50 min. almoust like i want to quit. How long does this penalites last. Plz help
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Post by amidf on Dec 21, 2017 17:39:27 GMT -5
Hi. My kid have used my acc, (now i have made him a own acc on his ipad, only 6 years old. ) but my problem is like you have wrote, he probably have left game some times and started new. But problem i got is i have got a kind of penaltie. I cant get into games. Takes like 50 min. almoust like i want to quit. How long does this penalites last. Plz help The penalty is called Low Priority Queue where you are looking for matches with other players whose kids left lots of games. To get out you need to play some number of matches to completion. The number of matches needed depends on the number that were left, and it is a closely guarded secret held by Pixonic to discourage workarounds. The problem is that you can't play many complete matches if you have to wait 50 minutes just to find one. I suggest you try squadding with clanmates and see if that gets you matches faster.
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Post by U Camp = I Camp on Dec 21, 2017 17:59:55 GMT -5
Hi. My kid have used my acc, (now i have made him a own acc on his ipad, only 6 years old. ) but my problem is like you have wrote, he probably have left game some times and started new. But problem i got is i have got a kind of penaltie. I cant get into games. Takes like 50 min. almoust like i want to quit. How long does this penalites last. Plz help The penalty is called Low Priority Queue where you are looking for matches with other players whose kids left lots of games. BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Post by Forumite on Dec 21, 2017 18:12:12 GMT -5
Ylu wou.d be suprised, droped in on two guys at it in a BR game,corner of valley, droped in a lance melted a cossack and had a pissed blue stalker shooting at me. I was on a win task, had to be done. I'm glad TDM is here, no need to cease fire when I see a Cossack, stalker or destrier doing beacon tasks (my own rule). I was in a similar situation like the stalker, I got annoyed at the blue Leo shooting the red ecu cossack doing beacon swap with me so I blocked the blue Leo's way and the ECU cossack managed to get away, but still got killed by a blue griffin sighs. Chaotic mess thanks to Pixonic.YOU ARE A TRAITOR, SEH! Indeed it makes me wish there was infratricide available so I could dispatch you myself every time you show your turncoat face on my team.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Dec 21, 2017 18:35:52 GMT -5
There are tankers, sure, but I learned from my earliest dialogue in this forum that there are many circumstances that can cause a teammate to not contribute.
Here is another scenario why someone may bot out that has nothing to do with intentionally tanking.
There are occasions that there is so much server lag that it is impossible to even play the game. In these rare instances, I have ejected all my bots and tried to position the last to get killed quickly. You can ask all the people I squad with, team play is really important to me, but in these rare and very disappointing moments, I finish up quick and take a half hour break from the game. Lag is usually gone by then.
There are also instances where in mid game people get phone calls or have emergencies. I have a 7yr old that several times did something that requires immediate attention. One of my friends had to stop midgame to deal with a police manhunt, caught the guy hiding in his backyard. Point is, while there are valid ethical points made in the forum regarding tanking, it is childish and presumptuous to conclude it is always tanking or that these people are losers and to post hangar pics and trash talk them. Once I was in a McDonalds drive thru, the car at the order screen sat there forever and everyone started honking and yelling. No response. Finally, someone got out to go over to the car, yelling at the driver, only to find they had had a heart attack.
So the point is, all you people here publicly slandering others may in fact know nothing about the reality of who you’re trashing, so maybe, you should just shut up and play the game instead.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 23:35:02 GMT -5
Forumite, cooperation with red to do beacon swap is rare,while we should be killing each other. I find it funny to suddenly cease fire and work together.
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