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Post by AVC on Dec 17, 2017 0:50:29 GMT -5
Yes, FAL (or F4L/F/\L), I'm looking at you.
So I'm on kill tasks, so I'm doing BR. So far this arvo 6 games. Three of them I have had the misfortune of going up against a full whale clan.
In less than 90 seconds they had invaded the spawn and we were meched out.
What possible point can there be to play this way?
It would be like me going up against level one destriers and cossacks.
I like a good fight. Those close matches that go right down to the wire.
How can this be fun for them?
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Post by leavemealone on Dec 17, 2017 0:56:28 GMT -5
What's fal abbreviation stand for? For all losers? Let me guess a top tanking clan that's on a top ten list on ISO
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Post by leavemealone on Dec 17, 2017 1:01:19 GMT -5
Yes, FAL (or F4L/F/\L), I'm looking at you. So I'm on kill tasks, so I'm doing BR. So far this arvo 6 games. Three of them I have had the misfortune of going up against a full whale clan. In less than 90 seconds they had invaded the spawn and we were meched out. What possible point can there be to play this way? It would be like me going up against level one destriers and cossacks. I like a good fight. Those close matches that go right down to the wire. How can this be fun for them? guys running with op hangar who are bullying lower league who are trying to maintain their clan points or they're just farming.
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Post by maverick on Dec 17, 2017 2:11:26 GMT -5
Juvenile children with too much of daddy's money, forget it and move on. When I come up against them I quit or only field 1 bot I'm not feeding them silver.
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Post by snk on Dec 17, 2017 4:12:59 GMT -5
Not everyone in F4L or F/\L got DIESS or MKII gears, most of us with normal gears who never spend any $$.
I am in F4L,I solo most of the time with normal gears (except a Kuminho and Bulgasari(just got it yesterday) which won from the event), I meet F4L, F/\L, IDA occasionally. But It is still like a heaven in GR compare to what I solo in ios Champions League, especially after the new MM few days ago. My 10.5/11.5 hanger (Rogatka, 3x Griffin, Ancilelot), face almost all Champions League hanger with most DEISS MKII bots/weapons atm, there may be 1 or 2 from Master League which some of them also have DIESS.
If you can’t solo in GR, I wonder how you survive in Android or iOS. I don’t mind squad with you and show you how to survive in GR without any DIESS.
There are a lot more well equipped clans in Android and iOS.
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Post by hyderier on Dec 17, 2017 4:26:51 GMT -5
When this happens, I just shrug, and unless I am squading, I won't drop next bot, but go for a drink or whatever. Well, usually I drop 2 bots, the first one, and then I wait to drop a DB Griffin, which generally allows me 1 kill and often get top damage (in this kind of "battle"...).
I guess they sometimes have equal squads to battle. So these quick curbstomps are just filler (and Ag and win task wins etc).
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Post by T34 on Dec 17, 2017 4:33:09 GMT -5
Just wait til the whales run the excorcist. Getting hit by four tarans or four shocktrains. 78 k damage in an instant from 500m with pass on. Ha ha. 4 hits and the other team is gone. What's happening now will seem like heaven.
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Post by damian002 on Dec 17, 2017 5:46:32 GMT -5
Gameroom version probably still have problem finding a balanced match because there aren't as many players as in android version. But rest assured mate, they also encounter full clan squad from time to time and they don't always win.
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getdabeacons
Destrier
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Post by getdabeacons on Dec 17, 2017 8:43:20 GMT -5
Gameroom version probably still have problem finding a balanced match because there aren't as many players as in android version. But rest assured mate, they also encounter full clan squad from time to time and they don't always win. great game ! original poster i feel your pain its not like we can plan the matches we just drop in as prepared as possible for the matches we get. at least if it only takes 90 seconds its over fast and we can all move on and hope match maker does a better job next time.
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Post by mechtout on Dec 17, 2017 8:47:44 GMT -5
Must be on the wins task. Only 26 more to go. Keep in mind during events random teammates all have personal agendas. Since BR is common for kill tasks they would most likely not be pushing beacons. Ends in a quick loss
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Post by bronzeknee on Dec 17, 2017 8:52:01 GMT -5
Juvenile children with too much of daddy's money, forget it and move on. When I come up against them I quit or only field 1 bot I'm not feeding them silver. I think most of the whales are older men with nothing to do.
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Post by frunobulax on Dec 17, 2017 14:59:44 GMT -5
Yes, FAL (or F4L/F/\L), I'm looking at you. [...] Three of them I have had the misfortune of going up against a full whale clan. [...] How can this be fun for them? FAL actually contains a lot of active players with "normal" hangars. And many of them play random games, I've played in games with FAL players on both sides. The end result is the same, unfortunately. There are just not enough good players at fb gr, all you can do is to eject if you face such a squad. But don't blame the whales, blame Pixo for allowing whales to buy such a huge competetive advantage. Games with bronze players against squads with Mk2 Shocktrain hangars are just insane.
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Post by Conflict's Student on Dec 17, 2017 15:20:17 GMT -5
Juvenile children with too much of daddy's money, forget it and move on. When I come up against them I quit or only field 1 bot I'm not feeding them silver. I think most of the whales are older men with nothing to do. ... with only 2 apps for entertainment: War Robots and Bumble. But even dropping whale-level cash, War Robots is cheaper entertainment than Bumble.
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Post by bloodynipples on Dec 17, 2017 15:56:29 GMT -5
I never get it. I'm gonna get beat so just give up. Why not fight it out, do the best you can. I've never run from a fight and never will.
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Post by AVC on Dec 17, 2017 17:41:57 GMT -5
What's fal abbreviation stand for? For all losers? Let me guess a top tanking clan that's on a top ten list on ISO It's l33t speak for the word FAIL. I must admit IDA is up there in the whale clan stakes too.
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Post by AVC on Dec 17, 2017 17:46:30 GMT -5
Juvenile children with too much of daddy's money, forget it and move on. When I come up against them I quit or only field 1 bot I'm not feeding them silver. I think most of the whales are older men with nothing to do.
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Post by frunobulax on Dec 17, 2017 18:28:12 GMT -5
Of course, there are ?poo place?s like this one in FAL, who just make life miserable for other players with their deep pockets. Look at that, squading with 100% win rate. Again, ?poo place?. Douchebags.
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Post by Alphabet Soup on Dec 17, 2017 18:37:45 GMT -5
Going against FAL or F/\L can be fun.. Take it as a learning curve.. They are actually a great bunch of guys.. They can teach a bit about the game if you're willing to be a student for a few...
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Post by frunobulax on Dec 17, 2017 19:47:30 GMT -5
Going against FAL or F/\L can be fun.. Take it as a learning curve.. They are actually a great bunch of guys.. They can teach a bit about the game if you're willing to be a student for a few... Oh boy, if I had a dollar for every time I've read something like this, I could buy an Inquisitor Think again. (a) Even though I've seen some FAL guys that can play, most whales on FB are pretty bad players. There is nothing to learn there, except that if your robot is 3-4 levels lower, you're missing that merry green color for Mk2, AND you have weaker weapons, AND you're playing with 3 or 4 guys with a combined 50 wins against a full whale squad, then it's stupid to even think you can win. It takes about 2-3 games to learn that. And (b), no, there is NOTHING to learn because there are no tactics if you play against a team that crushes you in 3 minutes. You can't learn teamwork, because there are no decent players on your side, and you can't learn how to use cover, because the reds are coming at you from 3 sides, and you can't learn how to take/defend beacons because, well, you can't. And (c), those guys with 96% win rate are NOT a "great bunch of guys". Because if you have a full squad, then you CAN split into 2 squads, and chances are that you'll be matched against each other and have fun games, instead of beating up noobs. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. If you're up against 1 or maybe 2 whales, yes, then you can improve your gameplay. Learn how to capitalize on tactical mistakes, how smart play can make up for a difference in firepower (don't you LOVE it if your level 9 Taran Haechi kills that level 12 Mk2 Shocktrain Bulgasari?), and of course you can learn if you're up against good players, because you can watch how they play and realize why they beat you. But if you're up against 6 FAL or IDA or RBX or xyz whales, and you see that most of your comrades are not even in a clan, then hit the "leave battle" button and don't feel bad about it.
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Post by Crow T. Robot on Dec 17, 2017 20:20:52 GMT -5
I never get it. I'm gonna get beat so just give up. Why not fight it out, do the best you can. I've never run from a fight and never will. That exactly how I feel if I'm going down I'm going to fight till my last breath. I always thing of a line from the outlaw Josie Wales. "When it seems that all is lost that's when ya get plum mad dog mean!"
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Post by Domino on Dec 17, 2017 20:47:05 GMT -5
I don't understand. It's not like thier tanking. They just spent a bunch of money to have the strongest gear.
Hard to blame them, I'd be more pissed at Pixonic for mk2 and Shocktrain/dash bots
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Post by Alpha on Dec 18, 2017 7:36:38 GMT -5
I play on FBGR and i play aginst FAL (or F4L/F/\L) all the time, yes as a full clan they are awesome, but not unbeatable! However if you meet these guys and your in a pug group then yes you are going to get your (poo..poo..) handed to you.
FAL = Fallen FYI
no one mentions IDA, BAR, ITA also three other Huge Clans on FBGR
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Post by maverick on Dec 18, 2017 7:41:09 GMT -5
Actually it's Fallen Alliance FYI
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abarus39
Destrier
Posts: 39
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Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Lancelot
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Post by abarus39 on Dec 18, 2017 9:22:05 GMT -5
TW and Elite Gunz also have some players with ridiculous hangers.
When I was in F/\L they ran BR almost exclusively so if you are running into them a lot switch to domination. There are some really cool people in F/\L, Check Your Seven took a lot of time to squad with me to give me tips and hanger advice. They actually look for active players more than players with OP hangers when recruiting.
The population on FBGR is really not able to support clan battles right now, especially at certain times of the day/night. We had a full 6 man clan squad going and ran into the a full squad of from a clan that was about half whales. They beat us pretty soundly, after getting beat we jumped back into battle and low behold...same clan... same results, they beat us badly, we wait a minute and queue for battle... drop in and ....SAME CLAN three times in a row... we took the hint from MM and called it a night.
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Post by mechtout on Dec 18, 2017 10:15:03 GMT -5
Yes, plenty of clans that will hand it to you on the server. Basically the infancy of FBGR is maturing to the same meta the larger servers experience, and gone are the days I could run a hangar of just pinata vityaz, golem, and boa on a regular basis. It's only going to get worse since thats the direction set by Pix, so set your expectations accordingly.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Dec 18, 2017 10:36:55 GMT -5
Juvenile children with too much of daddy's money, forget it and move on. When I come up against them I quit or only field 1 bot I'm not feeding them silver. I think most of the whales are older men with nothing to do. Would it be fair to say that most of the F2P complainers are young boys with nothing to do? Stereotypes can go both ways..
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Post by frunobulax on Dec 18, 2017 11:50:44 GMT -5
Yes, plenty of clans that will hand it to you on the server. Basically the infancy of FBGR is maturing to the same meta the larger servers experience, and gone are the days I could run a hangar of just pinata vityaz, golem, and boa on a regular basis. It's only going to get worse since thats the direction set by Pix, so set your expectations accordingly. Not sure. The special flavor of FB GR is that you get Bronze guys with Destriers and Cossacks in one match with Champions, and nothing has changed about that in the last half year. Pixo can't establish a solid player base there, and whales thrive in this environment. Chicken and egg. Of course, entirely Pixos fault. Why do they not allow Android/iOS players that have connected to FB to play FB GR with their Android/iOS hangar? That would populate the system, many players might switch over because of the astonishing quality of graphics and gameplay, problem solved. But Pixo would rather let the platform wither, just because they are greedy mother?fluffy bunny?ers and want players to pay a second time for the second platform. But this is highly unusual, all other FB GR games I know work exactly as I described, you have one account across all platforms..
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Post by frunobulax on Dec 18, 2017 11:57:27 GMT -5
I play on FBGR and i play aginst FAL (or F4L/F/\L) all the time, yes as a full clan they are awesome, but not unbeatable! Why not post a screenshot of you defeating a full FAL clan? Back when I was in CYT on FB, a pretty good clan with active players but no whales (though some dolphins), I have never beaten FAL, and we beat RBX one memorable time (out of maybe 30 matches). And we had full or nearly full squads with voice comms. (RBX seems to have disappeared somehow, with IDA, ITA, xyz and more taking their place.) Again, FAL seems to be a bit better because they include players with traditional hangars that are not sped up to high levels, and some of them run solo or in small squads more often than the other whale clans.
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Post by mechtout on Dec 18, 2017 12:04:58 GMT -5
Yes, plenty of clans that will hand it to you on the server. Basically the infancy of FBGR is maturing to the same meta the larger servers experience, and gone are the days I could run a hangar of just pinata vityaz, golem, and boa on a regular basis. It's only going to get worse since thats the direction set by Pix, so set your expectations accordingly. Not sure. The special flavor of FB GR is that you get Bronze guys with Destriers and Cossacks in one match with Champions, and nothing has changed about that in the last half year. Pixo can't establish a solid player base there, and whales thrive in this environment. Chicken and egg. Of course, entirely Pixos fault. Why do they not allow Android/iOS players that have connected to FB to play FB GR with their Android/iOS hangar? That would populate the system, many players might switch over because of the astonishing quality of graphics and gameplay, problem solved. But Pixo would rather let the platform wither, just because they are greedy mother?fluffy bunny?ers and want players to pay a second time for the second platform. But this is highly unusual, all other FB GR games I know work exactly as I described, you have one account across all platforms.. I have noticed in past week something has adjusted in the mm. See more champions, masters and experts in solo matches I agree with combining the servers. Would love to bring my IOS and Android accounts over to PC.
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Post by frunobulax on Dec 18, 2017 12:13:01 GMT -5
mechtout, I don't think the matchmaking was changed. I think there are so few players that they just have to throw in whoever is online and looking for a game. Sometimes it takes me a minute to find a match, even with Bronze randoms. And with the event, the good players will play more, so the chance of good players appearing in a random match went up.
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