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Post by noxfenix on Dec 15, 2017 10:48:02 GMT -5
Hi all, This is my first post, although I have been browsing this forum for a few months. Very useful advice and tips from fellow players. I am a casual F2P player for more than 18 months (Android). Didn't use to play a lot due to work commitments, and was stuck at E3 for quite a while. Over the last month, with more time on my hands, I decided to challenge myself and see how far I could go. Upgraded my last weapon to lvl 10 midway through Masters and finally broke into Champions today with a 10/10 hangar (no DIESS, or any of the new component weapons/bots). I play solo, and don't squad. I am not in a clan either. As a matter of principle, I am against paying a single cent for War Robots, especially given the recent P2W changes in the game. I don't consider myself a skilled pilot and my stats are not impressive. But I just want to show that if I can make it with an old school 10/10 hangar, then I think there is hope for all of us F2P players to compete in this new meta (as long as we have the commitment, patience and endurance).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 11:00:35 GMT -5
Just 350 gold for Champions?
Gratz on getting up there.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Dec 15, 2017 11:13:13 GMT -5
Don't be selling yourself so short -- you've got to have at least some skill to make it that far with a 10/10 'conventional' hangar. Nice job.
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Post by Poopface on Dec 15, 2017 11:27:57 GMT -5
Congrats. Speaking as somebody who's been languishing in Expert for quite a while (my temper tantrum a few months ago notwithstanding), it's nice to see that it's possible. The Hoff is proud of you!
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Post by Deadeye on Dec 15, 2017 13:36:23 GMT -5
and, of course, so is this guy...
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Dec 15, 2017 14:03:09 GMT -5
I made it to Champion halfway between 8/9 and 9/9 on iOS. The fact that it is possible does not mean it is fun. It's pretty boring having no real affect on the outcome of games, but still being forced upwards by the matchmaker because of the idiotic point distribution and structure of the system.
Don't get me wrong, it takes skill to get there to a degree. But if you have any level of skill and play enough, you'll reach Champion by default. I'm glad I'm on Android now and starting over. The lower tiers with lower level stuff is refreshing. It's much easier to beat 8/8 and 9/9 regular bots with a 5/5 hangar than it is to beat Mk II 12/12 dash bots with a 9/9 hangar.
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Post by noxfenix on Dec 15, 2017 20:09:43 GMT -5
Thanks guys for all the likes and comments. Really appreciate it!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2017 20:17:59 GMT -5
This should become more common with the new MM changes. iOS got it a few days ago. Before, Champions used to be teamed up with Experts, so it was very unlikely to outscore an all Kbot hanger. The times I noticed I could outscore a Kbot MKII hanger is on the smaller maps where I surmise the speed difference doesn't matter as much, and skill plays more of a factor in getting kills and dmg.
I was pretty close to Champion, only 100 points away with a 9.2/10.5 legacy hanger. Then the Halloween event hit lol.
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Post by leavemealone on Dec 15, 2017 20:31:01 GMT -5
Congrats. You're not going to last long with all those diess.
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Post by AVC on Dec 16, 2017 1:11:48 GMT -5
I cracked Champion about 5 days ago. I don't have anything above a 9. Not sure if FBGR has more to do with that. I was deliberately not going past 9 on anything but my rank increased regardless. I dont even have a Lance, let alone DIESSS Persistance pays off!
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Post by frunobulax on Dec 16, 2017 2:11:50 GMT -5
I made it to Champion halfway between 8/9 and 9/9 on iOS. The fact that it is possible does not mean it is fun. It's pretty boring having no real affect on the outcome of games, but still being forced upwards by the matchmaker because of the idiotic point distribution and structure of the system. Amen.
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Post by frunobulax on Dec 16, 2017 2:15:18 GMT -5
I cracked Champion about 5 days ago. I don't have anything above a 9. Not sure if FBGR has more to do with that. Sorry to say, but you can make Champion on FBGR even with a 7/7 or 8/8 hangar. Skill level in most matches is abysmal, it's pretty hard not to finish top 2 in damage and gain league points even if you are on the losing team. Especially with 2 tankers/faders on each side in every random match.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Dec 16, 2017 3:19:30 GMT -5
Congratulations! I used to have that mindset. Now its: If you can do it, so be it. Parrticularly for events.
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Post by kukurukukuk on Dec 16, 2017 6:11:45 GMT -5
I made it to Champion halfway between 8/9 and 9/9 on iOS. The fact that it is possible does not mean it is fun. It's pretty boring having no real affect on the outcome of games, but still being forced upwards by the matchmaker because of the idiotic point distribution and structure of the system. Don't get me wrong, it takes skill to get there to a degree. But if you have any level of skill and play enough, you'll reach Champion by default. I'm glad I'm on Android now and starting over. The lower tiers with lower level stuff is refreshing. It's much easier to beat 8/8 and 9/9 regular bots with a 5/5 hangar than it is to beat Mk II 12/12 dash bots with a 9/9 hangar. I'm on the same boat and honestly, I regretted doing it. The Mk2 Dashfest in Champion League is so prevalent that it becomes really unfun to literally struggle with a 9/9 regular hangar. The good thing is that I was demoted fairly quickly to Masters, where, in SOME matches I was doing a little more than scrape paintjobs with peashooters. Regarding OP, congrats about reaching Champion. It does take some skill to do so, especially with an underpowered hangar. Do tell us how your matches are now.
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Post by elcheapo on Dec 17, 2017 16:08:00 GMT -5
How did you do that without a Raijin ?
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Post by frunobulax on Dec 17, 2017 19:58:54 GMT -5
I'm on the same boat and honestly, I regretted doing it. The Mk2 Dashfest in Champion League is so prevalent that it becomes really unfun to literally struggle with a 9/9 regular hangar. The good thing is that I was demoted fairly quickly to Masters, where, in SOME matches I was doing a little more than scrape paintjobs with peashooters. FB may be even worse there, because there are no "regular" players with a maxed or nearly maxed hangar that could keep the DIES whales at bay.
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Post by Alpha on Dec 18, 2017 9:42:18 GMT -5
(phazon) G R A T Z (phazon)
FBGR (samus) WoW (samus) it is so easy to get yourself into Champions league with whatever hanger you want, XD I am even sure you could eventually get there in your missile boats XD
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Post by stokr on Dec 18, 2017 10:03:00 GMT -5
I cracked Champion about 5 days ago. I don't have anything above a 9. Not sure if FBGR has more to do with that. I was deliberately not going past 9 on anything but my rank increased regardless. I dont even have a Lance, let alone DIESSS Persistance pays off! Just an FYI: I made Champion in GR in 29 days playing normal, no extra time/effort, with a 6/7 all Griff hangar. Getting to Champion in GR is not like getting to Champion on Android.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 10:08:12 GMT -5
noxfenix, I’m curious, has the recent matchmaking change pushed you down to masters? Have you found matches much more difficult?
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Dec 18, 2017 10:37:51 GMT -5
noxfenix , I’m curious, has the recent matchmaking change pushed you down to masters? Have you found matches much more difficult? I'm curious about anyone that recently made it to champions league on iOS as well. I made it about a week ago, got up to 5250 and I've been dropping like a rock ever since. I think I'm still scraping like 5005 or something but the matches since the MM change have been -insane-. I have to wait 1-2 minutes for a match, and then the match is 100% champion players, I don't think I'm terrible and I can handle duking it out with some champions with my most level 10 hanger but those matches with 75% haechi MK2 and 25% MK2 Zeus Fury has me in a scrap heap in a hurry. I've been trying to angle and change some things to push an advantage because I don't have a haechi or whatever, but damn, I'll be back down in Master within a day or two. Is it just the champion MM or is it like that across the board now?
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Post by noxfenix on Dec 18, 2017 10:42:18 GMT -5
noxfenix, I’m curious, has the recent matchmaking change pushed you down to masters? Have you found matches much more difficult? Hey Nix, glad to hear from you. And to youdidn'tseeme, apologies for the late reply ? I am just about staying afloat in Champions for now. Every match is against higher end Champions, and every other match is against Champion squads with MK2 DIESS. It is definitely more difficult, and exasperating at times. To maximise my damage output and survivability ,I am experimenting with four griffins (2 DBs & 2 PBDs) and an ancilot. I try to keep within the top 2 even if my team loses, but that is not always possible with a relatively underpowered hangar. I guess the next step is to get all my stuff to lvl12 first, then reassess.
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Post by Estoplast on Dec 18, 2017 10:47:37 GMT -5
Gg on reaching champions. With 10/10 gear is quite good in android. I just reached also with 10/11 gear thanks to the changes in MM. Playing with 10/11 gear in champion is a whole another deal compared to reaching there.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 11:29:29 GMT -5
noxfenix , I’m curious, has the recent matchmaking change pushed you down to masters? Have you found matches much more difficult? I'm curious about anyone that recently made it to champions league on iOS as well. I made it about a week ago, got up to 5250 and I've been dropping like a rock ever since. I think I'm still scraping like 5005 or something but the matches since the MM change have been -insane-. I have to wait 1-2 minutes for a match, and then the match is 100% champion players, I don't think I'm terrible and I can handle duking it out with some champions with my most level 10 hanger but those matches with 75% haechi MK2 and 25% MK2 Zeus Fury has me in a scrap heap in a hurry. I've been trying to angle and change some things to push an advantage because I don't have a haechi or whatever, but damn, I'll be back down in Master within a day or two. Is it just the champion MM or is it like that across the board now? I believe this change has affected the champions-expert band, so that these groups are not in the same pool for matchmaking - Champion matches in iOS are definitely *much* more competitive since 4-5 days ago.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 11:32:00 GMT -5
noxfenix , I’m curious, has the recent matchmaking change pushed you down to masters? Have you found matches much more difficult? Hey Nix, glad to hear from you. And to youdidn'tseeme, apologies for the late reply ? I am just about staying afloat in Champions for now. Every match is against higher end Champions, and every other match is against Champion squads with MK2 DIESS. It is definitely more difficult, and exasperating at times. To maximise my damage output and survivability ,I am experimenting with four griffins (2 DBs & 2 PBDs) and an ancilot. I try to keep within the top 2 even if my team loses, but that is not always possible with a relatively underpowered hangar. I guess the next step is to get all my stuff to lvl12 first, then reassess.
Good job! I imagine it must be very difficult without meta bots or at least a maxed old-school hangar. For my part, I enjoy most matches a lot more now (9/9 expert players in leos and raijins shouldn't really be matched with full mk2 maxed meta champions), but I can see that it would be frustrating with underlevelled gear.
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