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Post by endyu on Dec 13, 2017 14:11:31 GMT -5
I think we can all agree that tanking has ruined the game more than any bots/weapons have, so how can we fix it? Would Pixonic listen?
My ideas to stop tanking are:
1. Bots require a minimum league to play in, for example a Kumiho would be something like Gold 1 or 2, Haechi in Diamond, etc...
2. Give points not only for damage, but also by capping beacons.
3. You can't join another game unless you mech out or your previous game completes (not my idea, I saw it in another thread)
4. MKII weapons not allowed in lower leagues (Diamond minimum)
I think if they made these changes, it would benefit the game in many ways. People who choose not to compete in higher levels and instead would like to battle it out in more traditional bots can stay in lower leagues. It would also make tanking a much more tedious task and you're unable to exploit your upgrades/bots like you currently can.
What do you guys think?
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Post by jhonsnow on Dec 13, 2017 14:26:14 GMT -5
What's up with all these new accounts any way? Making threads about same thing over and over.
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Post by endyu on Dec 13, 2017 14:40:44 GMT -5
What's up with all these new accounts any way? Making threads about same thing over and over. I'm new... and I've seen a lot of threads about tanking but not ideas to fix it? |
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Dec 13, 2017 14:50:04 GMT -5
There have been plenty of threads with ideas. Nobody cares. Furthermore, on the list of people that don't care, Pixonic is at the very tip top.
There is one and only one solution to tanking. Tiered Ag payout per game based on your league. It is the only thing that will work, and it will work very well.
The problem, Pixonic doesn't give a 「dookie」, tanking makes them more money, so they enable and encourage it.
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Post by jhonsnow on Dec 13, 2017 14:53:24 GMT -5
What's up with all these new accounts any way? Making threads about same thing over and over. I'm new... and I've seen a lot of threads about tanking but not ideas to fix it? Oh ok. My apologies. And your ideas are good but pixo will never implement them cause it will reduce a lot of their earnings. For ex. players who are below diamond will never buy a haechi for RM. |
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Post by endyu on Dec 13, 2017 15:02:31 GMT -5
There have been plenty of threads with ideas. Nobody cares. Furthermore, on the list of people that don't care, Pixonic is at the very tip top. There is one and only one solution to tanking. Tiered Ag payout per game based on your league. It is the only thing that will work, and it will work very well. The problem, Pixonic doesn't give a ?poo-poo?, tanking makes them more money, so they enable and encourage it. Sorry, I had done a quick search and there were just threads ranting about tanking that had some ideas, I must have missed the ones specifically for ideas. Either way, it's unfortunate Pix doesn't care as this game is awesome aside from the tanking. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 15:05:04 GMT -5
So tell me how this is possible..  You are not supposed to have lance at level 5, But with RM you can have anything. You don't know pixonic, they can do anything to get your hard earned money even if it kills other gameplay. |
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Post by ᕲΣΣᕲƧ on Dec 13, 2017 16:27:31 GMT -5
I have no idea. My best solution is to join them. Tank so you don't get placed in the LPQ and go as low as you can. Just absolutely ruin the game for 11 others over and over and over. I'm seriously considering taking my 12/12 hangar down to silver or even bronze after this season. It comes and goes, but I'm still mostly angry enough with Pixonic to waste my time spiting the game just because.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 17:19:30 GMT -5
I don't think we should completely eliminate dashes in lower leagues, lets say someone in gold 2 won a kumi legitimately from a previous event or he grinded components, they should be allowed to use it. The key, IMHO, is a hangar based MM. If you pit someone with a kumiho, even if its just one person, the game is already decided. If they have orkans on it (probably they do) then they not only grab 4 out of 5 beacons in the first like 45 seconds, but they destroy you if you get close, and even if you do survive you're probably crippled with 30k health, speed down to 10 kmph and 1 weapon left. I don't see dashes often, but when I do it's a real pain. I think a hangar based MM would greatly improve the game, maybe even fix it because tankers with 12/12 hangars can't get matched with people like me who have a 6/6 hangar. Like endyu said, restricting MKII weapons to a minimum of diamond league would help a lot, and the not being able to join another game until you mech out/previous game completes is a great idea, deters fading/leaving and adds fairness to grindathons like the events. |
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Post by U Camp = I Camp on Dec 13, 2017 17:26:25 GMT -5
I don't think we should completely eliminate dashes in lower leagues, lets say someone in gold 2 won a kumi legitimately from a previous event or he grinded components, they should be allowed to use it. The key, IMHO, is a hangar based MM. If you pit someone with a kumiho, even if its just one person, the game is already decided. If they have orkans on it (probably they do) then they not only grab 4 out of 5 beacons in the first like 45 seconds, but they destroy you if you get close, and even if you do survive you're probably crippled with 30k health, speed down to 10 kmph and 1 weapon left. I don't see dashes often, but when I do it's a real pain. I think a hangar based MM would greatly improve the game, maybe even fix it because tankers with 12/12 hangars can't get matched with people like me who have a 6/6 hangar. Like endyu said, restricting MKII weapons to a minimum of diamond league would help a lot, and the not being able to join another game until you mech out/previous game completes is a great idea, deters fading/leaving and adds fairness to grindathons like the events. You must be new, because we came from a hangar based MM. |
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Post by cmdrperalta on Dec 13, 2017 17:36:14 GMT -5
Personally, I think the easiest way to for Pixo fix tanking is for pixo to not award positive or negative points, beacons, kills or anything else when ppl run bots that are way below the level of their main hangar or when they leave a game without running at least 3 bots for a total of at least two minutes. No penalties, no rewards. Nothing. That would eliminate any benefit (i.e. quickly losing points) from tanking and would essentially force pilots with OP hangars into the upper tiers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 17:41:29 GMT -5
I don't think we should completely eliminate dashes in lower leagues, lets say someone in gold 2 won a kumi legitimately from a previous event or he grinded components, they should be allowed to use it. The key, IMHO, is a hangar based MM. If you pit someone with a kumiho, even if its just one person, the game is already decided. If they have orkans on it (probably they do) then they not only grab 4 out of 5 beacons in the first like 45 seconds, but they destroy you if you get close, and even if you do survive you're probably crippled with 30k health, speed down to 10 kmph and 1 weapon left. I don't see dashes often, but when I do it's a real pain. I think a hangar based MM would greatly improve the game, maybe even fix it because tankers with 12/12 hangars can't get matched with people like me who have a 6/6 hangar. Like endyu said, restricting MKII weapons to a minimum of diamond league would help a lot, and the not being able to join another game until you mech out/previous game completes is a great idea, deters fading/leaving and adds fairness to grindathons like the events. You must be new, because we came from a hangar based MM. :OOOOO I didn't know that sorry mates |
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Post by karlhungus on Dec 13, 2017 20:06:54 GMT -5
Levels per league, you have haechi at 12 mk2. Sure join a diamond game it scales back to mk1 lvl 10. Pix don't sell balance they sell advantage though so none of these will ever happen.
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Post by rdood on Dec 13, 2017 20:11:32 GMT -5
Levels per league, you have haechi at 12 mk2. Sure join a diamond game it scales back to mk1 lvl 10. Pix don't sell balance they sell advantage though so none of these will ever happen. This is what I was thinking, each league has a set level, say bronze 5/6 gold 6/8 etc |
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Dec 13, 2017 20:15:31 GMT -5
Pixonic COULD fix tanking, but they won't, because it's good for business. This has been hashed, rehashed,made into a casserole, reheated for leftovers, been fed to the dog and been transformed into a piping hot loaf on the lawn, that you stepped in.
Either join em, or learn to live with them. Tanking/clubbing is here to stay.
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Post by Gdu4ever on Dec 13, 2017 20:30:06 GMT -5
Your input is appreciated, that's for sure. Don't get discouraged.
The tanking / Matchmaker problem persisted for so long that most old players are not expecting Pixonic to fix it.
The forum is flooded with threads ranting about tanking beocz the idea threads have simply no use.
Feel free to send your thoughts to Pix but you've been reminded.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 20:46:00 GMT -5
Have everyone in Champions, Masters, Expert, Diamond tank down to Bronze. Pix won't be able to ignore it, unless they want their game to look like complete 「dookie」.
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Post by T34 on Dec 13, 2017 21:19:52 GMT -5
Its rather easy IMO. Narrow the MM selection band and introduce hanger based power related levels during allocation. So, if you have a hanger strength of X than you cant be allocated below league Y and above league x. But than who are the whales going bash up?
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Post by ezekielcrow on Dec 13, 2017 22:06:26 GMT -5
This is pre coffee, so bear with me. I think Pixo should abolish LPQ. Players caught tanking should be brought to the top of the food chain (legends) for 50 games or more. No battle rewards, keys, or chests for the duration. That would fix wait times up top and provide a serious disincentive.
Edit: i know, iknow. Just daydreaming.
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Post by jhonsnow on Dec 13, 2017 22:43:08 GMT -5
This is pre coffee, so bear with me. I think Pixo should abolish LPQ. Players caught tanking should be brought to the top of the food chain (legends) for 50 games or more. No battle rewards, keys, or chests for the duration. That would fix wait times up top and provide a serious disincentive. Edit: i know, iknow. Just daydreaming. Lol previous LPQ was like that. BTW if that happens again than Legend legume won't remain legend anymore and players in them will quit the game in few months. Sure Pixo doesn't want that ? |
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Post by U Camp = I Camp on Dec 13, 2017 23:23:03 GMT -5
You must be new, because we came from a hangar based MM. :OOOOO I didn't know that sorry mates No need to be sorry. The idea of going 'back' to some form of hangar based MM comes up every now and then. And while it may seem nice on the surface, it does have it's own set of problems and ways to be manipulated by players. It was taken advantage of before and I have no doubt it would be again if it were re-implemented. I doubt Pix would ever go back to this for a few reasons, but the key reason probably being, a hangar based MM will likely mean less profit for Pix, and we all know they LOVE making money. |
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