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Post by [CK]erazor on Dec 13, 2017 4:57:48 GMT -5
Just uninstalled the game from both tablet and phone. Using a second account I had encounters with dash bots, Ember, Shocktrain and the other stuff we all love in as low as silver league. So I'm playing level 5/6 bots against Haechi? Where's the point?
I lately enjoyed the forum here more than playing the game. Thank you for countless hours of fun or insightful postings. It's been a pleasure being a small part of it! Take care, hope you all have a good time with your family in the upcoming holiday season and see you around in another game.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Dec 13, 2017 6:43:15 GMT -5
Its been swell, bud! See you around!
Seems like we're dropping like destriers.
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Post by ᕲΣΣᕲƧ on Dec 13, 2017 13:10:12 GMT -5
Its been swell, bud! See you around! Seems like we're dropping like destriers. Surely it will get worse as MM needs to look further from your league again as more people drop and it will highlight the divide between P2W players and FTP. The latter will just cause more people to live. Rinse, repeat, War Robots is dead. It's such a shame Pixonic basically killed the game with what could have been the best thing to ever happen to game if not for greed and terrible decisions.
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Dec 13, 2017 13:29:59 GMT -5
Post by endyu on Dec 13, 2017 13:29:59 GMT -5
I think the best way to revamp MM would be to place league requirements on bots.
Example is lowest league a Kumiho can be used in is Gold 2, Haechi Diamond 1, etc...
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Dec 13, 2017 13:53:30 GMT -5
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Post by amidf on Dec 13, 2017 13:53:30 GMT -5
Happy Trails to you, until we meet again....
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Dec 13, 2017 13:57:33 GMT -5
There's been a lot of garbage happening lately, and especially during the events. I know it's probably a forlorn hope, but I keep hoping that things will get better in January when the events are over. Sure we'll have the whales, tankers, and seal clubbers, but we've had them almost since the beginning. I have little doubt that most games have them, not just War Robots. I just hope the tanking and clubbing eases off when there aren't a bunch of worthless (for the first several levels anyway) prizes to win. I've been fighting for wins on the Trident for three days, and have all but given up. It just isn't worth the grief. I don't even want a Trident.
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Dec 13, 2017 14:03:37 GMT -5
Post by bloodynipples on Dec 13, 2017 14:03:37 GMT -5
I think once you reach your highest league...that's where you stay. Problem solved
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Dec 13, 2017 14:12:15 GMT -5
Just uninstalled the game from both tablet and phone. Using a second account I had encounters with dash bots, Ember, Shocktrain and the other stuff we all love in as low as silver league. So I'm playing level 5/6 bots against Haechi? Where's the point? I lately enjoyed the forum here more than playing the game. Thank you for countless hours of fun or insightful postings. It's been a pleasure being a small part of it! Take care, hope you all have a good time with your family in the upcoming holiday season and see you around in another game. You don’t have to play War Robots like that. Why don’t you just use your L6 gear to join the 6 pack league? People are having a great time with it. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/17361/ios-league-War Robots-fun-again And here is a discord link: discord.gg/4fGgvvAnd here is a discord link for custom matches: discord.gg/4fGgvvIf you’ve totally lost interest, Battle of Titans will be out early 2018, and Mechwarrior 5 will be out in Dec 2018 which will also support VR Good luck
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Dec 13, 2017 16:21:58 GMT -5
Post by ᕲΣΣᕲƧ on Dec 13, 2017 16:21:58 GMT -5
There's been a lot of garbage happening lately, and especially during the events. I know it's probably a forlorn hope, but I keep hoping that things will get better in January when the events are over. Sure we'll have the whales, tankers, and seal clubbers, but we've had them almost since the beginning. And I have little doubt that most games have them, not just War Robots. I just hope the tanking and clubbing eases off when there aren't a bunch of worthless (for the first several levels anyway) prizes to win. I've been fighting for wins on the Trident for three days, and I've all but given up. It just isn't worth the trouble. I don't even want a Trident. I was just raging yesterday to my clan leader... something about a few wins shouldn't take 3 days. I realize I can't win them all. I get so annoyed though when I'm the only blue that drops in. Just no hope at all of winning. It took my a few hours to finish 46 kills x's 3. It took me almost 2 full days to finish 9 wins x's 3. And of course immediately after finishing the wins task I go on like a 12 game winning streak....
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Dec 13, 2017 16:25:40 GMT -5
There's been a lot of garbage happening lately, and especially during the events. I know it's probably a forlorn hope, but I keep hoping that things will get better in January when the events are over. Sure we'll have the whales, tankers, and seal clubbers, but we've had them almost since the beginning. And I have little doubt that most games have them, not just War Robots. I just hope the tanking and clubbing eases off when there aren't a bunch of worthless (for the first several levels anyway) prizes to win. I've been fighting for wins on the Trident for three days, and I've all but given up. It just isn't worth the trouble. I don't even want a Trident. I was just raging yesterday to my clan leader... something about a few wins shouldn't take 3 days. I realize I can't win them all. I get so annoyed though when I'm the only blue that drops in. Just no hope at all of winning. It took my a few hours to finish 46 kills x's 3. It took me almost 2 full days to finish 9 wins x's 3. And of course immediately after finishing the wins task I go on like a 12 game winning streak.... Ah, a kindred spirit. It's uncanny when you're on a kill or capping task, and you get win after win. But you get a win task, and you can't win to save your soul. And they say MM isn't rigged. I call bull「dookie」.
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Dec 13, 2017 16:30:47 GMT -5
Post by ᕲΣΣᕲƧ on Dec 13, 2017 16:30:47 GMT -5
I was just raging yesterday to my clan leader... something about a few wins shouldn't take 3 days. I realize I can't win them all. I get so annoyed though when I'm the only blue that drops in. Just no hope at all of winning. It took my a few hours to finish 46 kills x's 3. It took me almost 2 full days to finish 9 wins x's 3. And of course immediately after finishing the wins task I go on like a 12 game winning streak.... Ah, a kindred spirit. It's uncanny when you're on a kill or capping task, and you get win after win. But you get a win task, and you can't win to save your soul. And they say MM isn't rigged. I call bull?poo-poo?. I'm close to the point of trying to throw games while I'm on kills or beacons. The idea being if my win rate drops low enough, MM should be ready to start pulling me up when I get back around to wins.
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Dec 13, 2017 17:01:19 GMT -5
Post by Anon O. Mous on Dec 13, 2017 17:01:19 GMT -5
Ah, a kindred spirit. It's uncanny when you're on a kill or capping task, and you get win after win. But you get a win task, and you can't win to save your soul. And they say MM isn't rigged. I call bull?poo-poo?. I'm close to the point of trying to throw games while I'm on kills or beacons. The idea being if my win rate drops low enough, MM should be ready to start pulling me up when I get back around to wins. Some people do what you're proposing, although, it's generally frowned upon, as it lets your teammates down. Think of it this way: If you're on a win task and your teammates are on a capping task, and they ditch to get to the next battle, how you would you feel? You'd feel betrayed, wouldn't you? I know I would, and that's why I don't leave a game unless I've already meched out. And I don't mech out on purpose. I know this sounds preachy and self serving, but even if I only need two kills, when I get them, I stay in the match to the end, because I want that win if possible.
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Dec 13, 2017 17:11:25 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 17:11:25 GMT -5
We need a hangar based MM. If we go by league then it becomes WAY too easy for tankers and wallet warriors to crush lower league players. I don't see dashes that often, and when I do its either bulgasari or kumiho. They are both a pain. If we take full dash hangars and put them against no dash hangars, who will win? But of course Mail.ru doesn't care, all they need to do is please the whales and they are set.
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Dec 13, 2017 17:40:59 GMT -5
Post by Anon O. Mous on Dec 13, 2017 17:40:59 GMT -5
We need a hangar based MM. If we go by league then it becomes WAY too easy for tankers and wallet warriors to crush lower league players. I don't see dashes that often, and when I do its either bulgasari or kumiho. They are both a pain. If we take full dash hangars and put them against no dash hangars, who will win? But of course Mail.ru doesn't care, all they need to do is please the whales and they are set. My goodness, @kayane , you already sound like a seasoned veteran. I'm not sure how long you've been playing War Robots, but War Robots used to have leagues as you describe, but the unsavory people would have a high hangar, then switch them out for lower hangars and tank down to the lower leagues, then put in the 12/12 weapons and bots, and club their way back up. As I understand it, the newer leagues were put in place to try and eliminate the practice, only I think it exacerbated it. The situation worsened after mail.ru took over, seemingly to cater to the whales and clubbers, rather than eliminating them. I agree with the general premise though: As certain weapons and bots can only be obtained after reaching a minimum level, those same weapons and bots should not be allowed to be used below that level. If K-Bots could only be used at Diamond or higher, it would defeat the purpose to tank below Diamond if you were planning to use said K-Bots to club your way up through Silver and Gold. There would still be tanking and clubbing, but hopefully to a lesser degree. Another option would be to limit tanking to only being able to drop one league. For example, you're in Expert I League. The lowest you can drop is Diamond, or better yet, the lowest you can drop is Expert III. Tanking is all but eliminated, and so is clubbing. Future updates are supposed to provide incentives for continually upgrading, but there will be those schmeckelheads that will still prefer to tank and club. Not sure why. From what I understand, technically it's not cheating, but it still seems dirty and underhanded. Some people don't seem to have a problem with that.
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Dec 13, 2017 17:47:10 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 17:47:10 GMT -5
We need a hangar based MM. If we go by league then it becomes WAY too easy for tankers and wallet warriors to crush lower league players. I don't see dashes that often, and when I do its either bulgasari or kumiho. They are both a pain. If we take full dash hangars and put them against no dash hangars, who will win? But of course Mail.ru doesn't care, all they need to do is please the whales and they are set. My goodness, @kayane , you already sound like a seasoned veteran. I'm not sure how long you've been playing War Robots, but War Robots used to have leagues as you describe, but the unsavory people would have a high hangar, then switch them out for lower hangars and tank down to the lower leagues, then put in the 12/12 weapons and bots, and club their way back up. As I understand it, the newer leagues were put in place to try and eliminate the practice, only I think it exacerbated it. The situation worsened after mail.ru took over, seemingly to cater to the whales and clubbers, rather than eliminating them. I agree with the general premise though: As certain weapons and bots can only be obtained after reaching a minimum level, those same weapons and bots should not be allowed to be used below that level. If K-Bots could only be used at Diamond or higher, it would defeat the purpose to tank below Diamond if you were planning to use said K-Bots to club your way up through Silver and Gold. There would still be tanking and clubbing, but hopefully to a lesser degree. Another option would be to limit tanking to only being able to drop one league. For example, you're in Expert I League. The lowest you can drop is Diamond, or better yet, the lowest you can drop is Expert III. Tanking is all but eliminated, and so is clubbing. Future updates are supposed to provide incentives for continually upgrading, but there will be those idiots that will still prefer to tank and club. Not sure why. From what I understand, technically it's not cheating, but it still seems dirty and underhanded. Some people don't seem to have a problem with that. I've been playing since october 2016, but not frequently until mid october of this year. I guess you could call me a veteran lol, I've been on the forum for quite some time but didn't register until recently . I listened in on some of the more experienced player's conversations to see if i could pick up any tips. What I meant is to revamp the hangar based MM to make it so even though you are in a lower league, you get matched with players that have similar hangars/bot + weap levels as you. This way, people can't tank now. And your idea of only being able to drop one league is good, it eliminates tanking completely and it sets you at ease a bit knowing that you can't go from gold 1 to like silver 2 if you have losing streaks.
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Dec 13, 2017 21:40:29 GMT -5
Post by ezekielcrow on Dec 13, 2017 21:40:29 GMT -5
Great input guys! I really think the computation for the lowest league a player can go down to should be pointage based on bots+bot level+weapon damage+pilot hit ave hit rate/accuracy. Levels should also be locked to certain leagues. Then trophies can be factored in for sub level within a league. That would go far to smoothening out MM but also allow light and medium bots to find relevance.
The new rewards system should also help with this.
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Dec 13, 2017 22:00:11 GMT -5
Post by rusty on Dec 13, 2017 22:00:11 GMT -5
I win a lot (?) perhaps ofthen a better word on “components ” but it seems and endless pursuit to get enough and never mind how tomdigure out hiw to depliy these components
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Dec 13, 2017 23:32:28 GMT -5
Post by Anon O. Mous on Dec 13, 2017 23:32:28 GMT -5
I know the quarantined messages are a necessary evil, but they sure can be inconvenient at times.
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Post by WilsonK on Dec 13, 2017 23:35:26 GMT -5
Its been swell, bud! See you around! Seems like we're dropping like destriers. Cossacks will hop back in soon! Me-self is one of them! HAHAHA still sticking to my trusty hangar though! Ain't got no time to chase Dashes and new weapons! Aside to [CK]erazor, take care buddy! I'm sure you'll hop back soon in a Cossack!
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Dec 14, 2017 0:15:59 GMT -5
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Dec 14, 2017 0:15:59 GMT -5
Sometimes I miss the Destrier and Cossack days. The 6 pack League looks better all the time. I have a little more growing and learning to do though. I have to get totally burned out by the futility of the higher leagues first.
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Dec 14, 2017 6:55:35 GMT -5
Post by tekkamanblade on Dec 14, 2017 6:55:35 GMT -5
There's been a lot of garbage happening lately, and especially during the events. I know it's probably a forlorn hope, but I keep hoping that things will get better in January when the events are over. Sure we'll have the whales, tankers, and seal clubbers, but we've had them almost since the beginning. And I have little doubt that most games have them, not just War Robots. I just hope the tanking and clubbing eases off when there aren't a bunch of worthless (for the first several levels anyway) prizes to win. I've been fighting for wins on the Trident for three days, and I've all but given up. It just isn't worth the trouble. I don't even want a Trident. I was just raging yesterday to my clan leader... something about a few wins shouldn't take 3 days. I realize I can't win them all. I get so annoyed though when I'm the only blue that drops in. Just no hope at all of winning. It took my a few hours to finish 46 kills x's 3. It took me almost 2 full days to finish 9 wins x's 3. And of course immediately after finishing the wins task I go on like a 12 game winning streak.... I was in the exact situation and frustration as you two, back in summer event. I could not pass Trebs,Trident and wouldn't even dream about Orkans and Tempests. Like you said, the wins took me days to complete and I just gave up in the middle of the event. I was at high expert 1 I think, almost at the point of raging quit War Robots when Dash bots fresh came out and spawn washed me MATCH AFTER MATCH. I feel like a Destriers facing Leos and a Vityaz facing Lances. ------------------ Therefore, I realized that I was at the bottom of the food chain because of my above average skill pushed me to somewhere skill doesn't matter any more, Dash MKII is the only thing matter. So I wondered, am I really at the bottom of the food chain and have to suffer for the rest of my life in this game? Or just quit it? Or wait, why do I have to be a try hard every game and moved up put myself to a worse situation? So I set up a Zeus Gekko Leo and camp, relax, if we lose we lose. I lose pioints that's good and I learnt not to care the results any more. Therefore I went down to Expert III of course, sometimes I got washed, but wait!! sometimes we washed red too and I noticed I was matched against some diamond and gold players, that made me want to try things out down there. It's like a hope of light that makes me excited. As a normal human being, I got beaten up for so long and finally I can find someone else to beat up for revenge. Then the tanking journey started. I currently stay around high gold to mid diamond. Cap and leave for beacon tasks, 10+ kill 1m+ damage for wins and kills. That gives me super healthy silver, gold and keys earning, thus pumped my hanger to full lvl12 weapons in a month or so.... Now I'm on 2/5 final Bulga task. ------------------- I'm not encouraging this, just share my feelings. I know all the "knights" here will jump on me like a DB Griffin jump on a Galahad. However, I strongly think War Robots should be a game of joy, everyone has the right to find their sweet spot to live in, if you don't feel joy anymore, go down League and try to find joy easier there. Life is the same, not everyone has to spend their life working towards Top Top and not getting rewarded only getting bullied. It is not wrong to go down league to stay out of bully, get rewards and make progress have fun in game. That's the whole purpose of us downloading War Robots. If you are getting bullied, talk to me I can help you. I never understand all the forum "tanking guard" trying to make them look morally good and failed to enjoy the game, "oh I don't care about this that or ?poo-poo?ty event, screw War Robots, I only play very few games now, but as long as I play, I do my best game to feed Haiches till I mech out, so that next match I will be more likely to meet more Haiches". Every game is the same, you progress and hit brick wall or hit P2W players, then you go back to easier level to farm and upgrade more efficiently, when ready try to beat that hard level again. War Robots tanking is the same, you simply don't use your dumb head to keep hitting that brick wall till you uninstall the game, go back to farm and level up hangers, then climb up again. If there is a single player mode to farm resources and event faster, no one would even bother to tank, at least I wouldn't. You guys can try to tank down your league a bit to lower your frustration and anger in this game, there will be a point that you are significant enough to overcome a 5v6 match. Clan leader or forum is not gonna help you if you choose to keep hitting that brick wall. ---------------------------------- DB incoming, I need to unshield and start backpedaling now.
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