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Post by deputy666 on Dec 13, 2017 9:41:55 GMT -5
I'll consider running one, since its hated by so many. LOL....my thoughts exactly! Just call me "Douchebag the Hydra Man" HA! Although I admit the Tulumbas work pretty well.
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Post by deputy666 on Dec 13, 2017 9:46:50 GMT -5
Kill tasks with hydras..is this a thing? I only have 2 unleveled ones. Hydras just suck...I kill with orkans, tarans and punishers(real face-melters!). It’s very much a thing. It’s nearly impossible to evade Hydras. So the campers sit there and scroll targets till they find players with low health and let em fly. It’s not like players with low health can hide from them. So they just wait and steal kills. It’s dirty as hell. I guess all is fair in event wars though.. lol Thank you for that advice. I'll write it down for future reference
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Post by CrownBlack on Dec 13, 2017 9:51:12 GMT -5
all of these "hydra guys" getting defensive about their precious weapon gotta love it!!! all the ?female dog?ing about dashes, shocktrains etc and the hydra is just as bad. can hide behind a wall and blindly fire off a missle and hit whatever at 600m. Tell me how that is skill again?? what about spamming orkans, or plasma? any good pilot can easily kill a hydra user, especially midrange. You want to compare hiding behind a wall to orks or plasma where a non-hydra pilot has to be at 300m-350m vs 600m of the dreaded and apparently beloved Hydra? If we all had hydras we would all sit and hide and BLINDLESSLY just shoot off missles all day long. Orks and plasma have to do the dirty work of actually killing something. Please don't give me the hydra is a distraction and helps my team..blah blah blah. The damage it does is meh at best. All the nashing of teeth about how it doesn't take skill to use the following: dash shocktrain scourge
but yet the hydra is the only fire and forget weapon in the game that allows someone the LUXURY of HIDING behind a wall and just pushing a button. At least the other items i mentioned someone has to dare to be out in the open to actually use one.
Use it, don't I don't care. I am not going to waste my time trying to track a hydra user down. I am sure its just a coincidence that the higher I move up in leagues the less hydras I see.
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Post by deputy666 on Dec 13, 2017 9:54:44 GMT -5
what about spamming orkans, or plasma? any good pilot can easily kill a hydra user, especially midrange. You want to compare hiding behind a wall to orks or plasma where a non-hydra pilot has to be at 300m-350m vs 600m of the dreaded and apparently beloved Hydra? If we all had hydras we would all sit and hide and BLINDLESSLY just shoot off missles all day long. Orks and plasma have to do the dirty work of actually killing something. Please don't give me the hydra is a distraction and helps my team..blah blah blah. The damage it does is meh at best. All the nashing of teeth about how it doesn't take skill to use the following: dash shocktrain scourge
but yet the hydra is the only fire and forget weapon in the game that allows someone the LUXURY of HIDING behind a wall and just pushing a button. At least the other items i mentioned someone has to dare to be out in the open to actually use one.
BUILD THE WALL! (And I will hide behind it with 3 Hydras and launch all day )
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Post by stokr on Dec 13, 2017 11:05:47 GMT -5
BUILD THE WALL! (And I will hide behind it with 3 Hydras and launch all day ) That's one way to lower your win rate and damage without tanking.
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Post by blackhand7 on Dec 13, 2017 11:19:24 GMT -5
I hate it when cowards with fujin hydras finish me off... cowards I have a different word for them that often follows "willows."
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Post by ΒΣRΖΣRKΛ²³ on Dec 13, 2017 11:42:42 GMT -5
Kill tasks with hydras..is this a thing? I only have 2 unleveled ones. Hydras just suck...I kill with orkans, tarans and punishers(real face-melters!). It’s very much a thing. It’s nearly impossible to evade Hydras. So the campers sit there and scroll targets till they find players with low health and let em fly. It’s not like players with low health can hide from them. So they just wait and steal kills. It’s dirty as hell. I guess all is fair in event wars though.. lol Nah. U must be trippin‘...What’s your hydra-kill-Highscore? And what league are you in?
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Post by zerosoul on Dec 13, 2017 12:02:03 GMT -5
I prefer to annoy those hydra pests back with my Scourge / Gekko Galahad. At lvl 11 these weapons can really burn a hole through Spydra Griffs and Fujins. And don’t let me have high ground on you in canyon boys cuz those missles bounce off my shield from that angle while I corner shoot your pesky Azz.
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Dec 13, 2017 12:12:32 GMT -5
Why are some people so against other people being able to finish tasks? If I see someone on a beacon task leaving me alone and I'm on a win task, I'll sit there and swap with them while I kill off any other reds that get close. Or if I'm on a beacon task and someone is on a kill task I'll let them have the kill. Not going to sit here and go out of my way to try to sabotage other people's tasks. The only one you're helping by intentionally setting back other people is Pixonic, because it's less free crap they're giving out.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 13, 2017 12:15:43 GMT -5
Why are some people so against other people being able to finish tasks? If I see someone on a beacon task leaving me alone and I'm on a win task, I'll sit there and swap with them while I kill off any other reds that get close. Or if I'm on a beacon task and someone is on a kill task I'll let them have the kill. Not going to sit here and go out of my way to try to sabotage other people's tasks. The only one you're helping by intentionally setting back other people is Pixonic, because it's less free crap they're giving out. Seriously... I've slowly come around to the "mind your own damn bot" mindframe as my approach to this game. The only peeps I still can't stand are the people who drop way OP hangars down to Bronze and low silver. They suck donkey genitalia for a hobby... jus sayin.
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Post by zerosoul on Dec 13, 2017 13:20:44 GMT -5
Why are some people so against other people being able to finish tasks? If I see someone on a beacon task leaving me alone and I'm on a win task, I'll sit there and swap with them while I kill off any other reds that get close. Or if I'm on a beacon task and someone is on a kill task I'll let them have the kill. Not going to sit here and go out of my way to try to sabotage other people's tasks. The only one you're helping by intentionally setting back other people is Pixonic, because it's less free crap they're giving out. I couldn’t care less if anyone is trying to complete a task or not. My task is to win, get gold, get silver and cap some beacons . Those annoying Hydras are just a hindrance to MY goals. RED = DEAD in my book !
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Post by Poopface on Dec 13, 2017 13:25:17 GMT -5
For some reason, when I read the title of the OP, I think of this song.
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Post by deputy666 on Dec 13, 2017 14:00:25 GMT -5
BUILD THE WALL! (And I will hide behind it with 3 Hydras and launch all day ) That's one way to lower your win rate and damage without tanking. LOL...you sound like the unicums on World of Tanks. Quite honestly, I couldn't care less about any of those numbers. I am one of those evil, terrible folks that just "plays for fun" and to blow stuff up.
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Post by stokr on Dec 13, 2017 14:21:29 GMT -5
I am one of those evil, terrible folks that just "plays for fun" and to blow stuff up. DBs blow stuff up. DBs let you take someone from 100% to 0% in spectacular fashion. Hydra builds...not so much.
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Dec 13, 2017 14:23:55 GMT -5
Why are some people so against other people being able to finish tasks? If I see someone on a beacon task leaving me alone and I'm on a win task, I'll sit there and swap with them while I kill off any other reds that get close. Or if I'm on a beacon task and someone is on a kill task I'll let them have the kill. Not going to sit here and go out of my way to try to sabotage other people's tasks. The only one you're helping by intentionally setting back other people is Pixonic, because it's less free crap they're giving out. I couldn’t care less if anyone is trying to complete a task or not. My task is to win, get gold, get silver and cap some beacons . Those annoying Hydras are just a hindrance to MY goals. RED = DEAD in my book ! I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the idiots that eject their bot just before they die for no purpose other than to screw the enemy out of a kill and hinder their progress on a kill task.
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Post by zerosoul on Dec 13, 2017 14:30:08 GMT -5
I couldn’t care less if anyone is trying to complete a task or not. My task is to win, get gold, get silver and cap some beacons . Those annoying Hydras are just a hindrance to MY goals. RED = DEAD in my book ! I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the idiots that eject their bot just before they die for no purpose other than to screw the enemy out of a kill and hinder their progress on a kill task. Don’t rule out the possibility that when some bots are at very little health that some weapons have been blown off. I know I will eject out of a bot that has very limited firepower and survivability left, not to screw anyone out of a kill but to get back into the fight with a fresh Bot.
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Dec 13, 2017 14:34:15 GMT -5
I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the idiots that eject their bot just before they die for no purpose other than to screw the enemy out of a kill and hinder their progress on a kill task. Donât rule out the possibility that when some bots are at very little health that some weapons have been blown off. I know I will eject out of a bot that has very limited firepower and survivability left, not to screw anyone out of a kill but to get back into the fight with a fresh Bot. Again, I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about 「bum-bum chapeau」s like the OP that explicitly say that they intentionally eject for no reason other than keeping someone from getting a kill for their task.
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Post by Domino on Dec 13, 2017 14:34:20 GMT -5
Hydra's are a part of this game, like it or not. Just another weapon to deal with.
When that happens and the guy is buried, I just bring my Ancilot, Carnage or even Galahad.
It's more fun to stand at a wall he can't get around and see how long it takes before he gives up.
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Post by stokr on Dec 13, 2017 14:41:29 GMT -5
Why are some people so against other people being able to finish tasks? If I see someone on a beacon task leaving me alone and I'm on a win task, I'll sit there and swap with them while I kill off any other reds that get close. Or if I'm on a beacon task and someone is on a kill task I'll let them have the kill. Not going to sit here and go out of my way to try to sabotage other people's tasks. The only one you're helping by intentionally setting back other people is Pixonic, because it's less free crap they're giving out. I dunno...if I'm on beacons I won't fire at another runner, unless fired upon. If I'm on kills, well, I kill. A beacon runner is just an easy kill, which helps me complete my task with less effort. Why do I need to sabotage my own goals for yours? I still need kills. If I'm on wins I pop runners, because beacon control wins matches. Again, why would I sabotage my task in your favor? It doesn't make sense.
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Dec 13, 2017 14:47:27 GMT -5
Why are some people so against other people being able to finish tasks? If I see someone on a beacon task leaving me alone and I'm on a win task, I'll sit there and swap with them while I kill off any other reds that get close. Or if I'm on a beacon task and someone is on a kill task I'll let them have the kill. Not going to sit here and go out of my way to try to sabotage other people's tasks. The only one you're helping by intentionally setting back other people is Pixonic, because it's less free crap they're giving out. I dunno...if I'm on beacons I won't fire at another runner, unless fired upon. If I'm on kills, well, I kill. A beacon runner is just an easy kill, which helps me complete my task with less effort. Why do I need to sabotage my own goals for yours? I still need kills. If I'm on wins I pop runners, because beacon control wins matches. Again, why would I sabotage my task in your favor? It doesn't make sense. Again, not talking about you. You aren't going out of your way to hurt other people's progress. The swapping I did on a win task was because we were controlling 3 of the 4 other beacons, so we were swapping between a 4-1 and 3-2 lead for my team. Sure, it cost me 45-60 seconds to do, but I was feeling generous at the time. If I'm on kill tasks, I will look for beacon runners and people with low health. If I catch a beacon runner as they are approaching a beacon, I let them get the cap and then kill them. Three seconds extra isn't going to kill me, and it'll help them out letting them get a cap before dying. We both win then. What I won't do is search out other beacon runners just to kill them if I'm not on kills, and I won't eject just before dying because I think the person firing at me is on a kill task. If they are, good for them! That means I didn't die for nothing. I generally do my beacon running in an Orkan Haechi, which confuses swapper usually. So a lot of the time they either start shooting me or they run away. But I run this so I can basically retaliate against idiots that go out of their way on their high horse trying to keep people from getting through tasks quickly.
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Post by zerosoul on Dec 13, 2017 14:47:58 GMT -5
Why are some people so against other people being able to finish tasks? If I see someone on a beacon task leaving me alone and I'm on a win task, I'll sit there and swap with them while I kill off any other reds that get close. Or if I'm on a beacon task and someone is on a kill task I'll let them have the kill. Not going to sit here and go out of my way to try to sabotage other people's tasks. The only one you're helping by intentionally setting back other people is Pixonic, because it's less free crap they're giving out. I dunno...if I'm on beacons I won't fire at another runner, unless fired upon. If I'm on kills, well, I kill. A beacon runner is just an easy kill, which helps me complete my task with less effort. Why do I need to sabotage my own goals for yours? I still need kills. If I'm on wins I pop runners, because beacon control wins matches. Again, why would I sabotage my task in your favor? It doesn't make sense. Preach on brother!!.......
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Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Dec 13, 2017 14:49:08 GMT -5
It’s very much a thing. It’s nearly impossible to evade Hydras. So the campers sit there and scroll targets till they find players with low health and let em fly. It’s not like players with low health can hide from them. So they just wait and steal kills. It’s dirty as hell. I guess all is fair in event wars though.. lol Nah. U must be trippin‘...What’s your hydra-kill-Highscore? And what league are you in? I dont use Hydras. Never have so it’s 0. I’m in D1/E3 and staying there. Trust me, it’s a thing in these leagues. Why would so many players be using them during the event?? Certainly not for beacon tasks. Wins? Sure, cause we all now how much Hydras help win games ?? So what does that leave?? Now way that many players are just not participating in the event. If they wanted to they could easily switch out their Hydra setup for something else to get kills if they felt it was more efficient. Every time a player is close to a kill and his opponent evades or gets behind some cover, that a hydra player has a shot. It’s the one weapon where cover doesn’t help protect. That’s the theory. I’m not saying it’s more effective or even AS effective. I’m saying the ones using them are doing so because they believe it is. Why are some people so against other people being able to finish tasks? If I see someone on a beacon task leaving me alone and I'm on a win task, I'll sit there and swap with them while I kill off any other reds that get close. Or if I'm on a beacon task and someone is on a kill task I'll let them have the kill. Not going to sit here and go out of my way to try to sabotage other people's tasks. The only one you're helping by intentionally setting back other people is Pixonic, because it's less free crap they're giving out. I do these things too but Hydra users annoy the hell out of me so I return the favor. ? If they’re not going to put in any actual work for the kill (I.e. using Hydras to steal them from their teammates) then they don’t deserve it IMO
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Dec 13, 2017 14:58:39 GMT -5
xXrobotrippinXxThere is no question they probably think that's the best way to get through the kill task, and there's no question they are stupid for thinking that. They are depending on their teammates to weaken targets for them to hopefully sneak a Hydra in to finish off. If you're looking to kill steal to get through the task, a RDB is far better at doing so. Personally, I stick with Orkans. Whether or not they're stupid, doesn't change the fact that ejecting the avoid a kill just to screw over someone else's task is a crap bag move. It's basically like a kid taking the ball home with him because if he isn't having fun, nobody can have fun.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 15:30:29 GMT -5
So what pixonic has to say about hydras, here it is... Can anyone please explain to me, how is it inefficient against fast moving bots? Even with my kumiho, i am unable to dodge or outrun them even if i use two dash continously. Even if i get out of range (like 700m), still the missile hits me because that was fired when i was in the 600m range.
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Post by deputy666 on Dec 13, 2017 15:33:16 GMT -5
I am one of those evil, terrible folks that just "plays for fun" and to blow stuff up. DBs blow stuff up. DBs let you take someone from 100% to 0% in spectacular fashion. Hydra builds...not so much. DBs are as common as Toyotas. But Hydra bots are SPECIAL.
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Post by ΒΣRΖΣRKΛ²³ on Dec 13, 2017 15:33:33 GMT -5
So what pixonic has to say about hydras, here it is... Can anyone please explain to me, how is it inefficient against fast moving bots? Even with my kumiho, i am unable to dodge or outrun them even if i use two dash continously. Even if i get out of range (like 700m), still the missile hits me because that was fired when i was in the 600m range. It is inefficient. Especially against fast bots. There is no need to dodge the missiles, just move towards the hydra bot.and in no time you’ll stand in his face, ready to melt the mofo.
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Post by stokr on Dec 13, 2017 15:36:34 GMT -5
Again, not talking about you. You aren't going out of your way to hurt other people's progress. How do you know what anyone's intent is? If I'm on kills and I pop your runner right before reaching a beacon, or while turning one, does that automatically assign intent to hold you back? It could simply be convenient.
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Post by deputy666 on Dec 13, 2017 15:38:56 GMT -5
xXrobotrippinXx There is no question they probably think that's the best way to get through the kill task, and there's no question they are stupid for thinking that. They are depending on their teammates to weaken targets for them to hopefully sneak a Hydra in to finish off. If you're looking to kill steal to get through the task, a RDB is far better at doing so. Personally, I stick with Orkans. Whether or not they're stupid, doesn't change the fact that ejecting the avoid a kill just to screw over someone else's task is a crap bag move. It's basically like a kid taking the ball home with him because if he isn't having fun, nobody can have fun. We had a name in WOT and WOWS for guys that grabbed a kill just as someone was about to finish it off and had been "working it over" for a long time...kill thieves. Thing is, nobody "owns" a kill. And there is no "kill stealing" because that kill may save you from being killed by it if it isn't destroyed. It's part of team play. Only "team play" doesn't happen very much in this game. It's pretty much every man for himself.
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Dec 13, 2017 16:49:16 GMT -5
deputy666 stokrIs reading comprehension really that bad on this forum now? Go back and actually read the entire thread and then read your replies to my comment. Intent was stated by OP. Generally when someone clearly says "I did action A because of reason B", it's pretty safe to say that reason B is their intent. I was not talking about kills teaming, so I have no idea what you're talking about deputy. Can't help figure out what you were trying to reply to because I can't for the life of me figure out what you're on about.
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Post by Gdu4ever on Dec 13, 2017 20:09:17 GMT -5
I'll consider running one, since its hated by so many. LOL....my thoughts exactly! Just call me "Douchebag the Hydra Man" HA! Although I admit the Tulumbas work pretty well. *Sign*....this is actually wrong, but becoz the game is going even wrong. Effective layout + skillful playing doesn't reward you with more wins. Trolling all day and your win rate is still around 50%. Good games ruined by tankers. Bad games carried by clubbers. So...I may just focus on pissing off people lol.
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