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Post by Refuse2GrowUp on Dec 4, 2017 22:14:55 GMT -5
I can't help but laugh at all the try-hards who chase an unarmed light bot, or even an armed one, all the way across a map trying to get a kill. Do you not realize an event is in progress and they are merely trying to capture a beacon. Cease fire morons!! Instead of shooting at them, try beacon swapping with them. Or if you are on kills and suck so bad you feel you can't get the kills any other way than to murder that light bot, at least let them capture the beacon first. It is in your best interest anyway, as you can then take the beacon right back and be that much more likely to get the gold for match beacon captures.
And you light bots wanting to capture beacons...don't shoot. If you prove to be aggressive, you might just draw the wrath of someone whom might have otherwise left you alone. We are only a few hours into the event but I have already lost count of the number of Stalkers who insist on dancing around me kicking at my ankles as I stand there not shooting giving them a chance to move away and beacon swap.
These events go a lot quicker if we all give each other some courtesy
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 22:28:26 GMT -5
I've tried to do beacon swap with some people but they just don't get it.
So when they blast my ECU Cossack, I spawn in with Orkan/Pinata Griffin or Tara Fujin to blast them off that beacon and prevent them from getting near it for their ignorance.
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Post by Nitro on Dec 4, 2017 22:43:46 GMT -5
I feel the same way. If there's such a thing as being nice to the reds, this would be it. People don't seem to get the message though. However we'll see if a shocktrain Kumiho can intimidate a little beacon runner to not be aggressive and chill the 「fluffernutter」 out. Also even a weak shocktrain seems to get the entire team's attention so this can help with win tasks by distracting the enemy. Applies to Hover stealing all the sniper attention as well. Once they see him float, they're drawn to him for some reason.
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Post by Radar love on Dec 4, 2017 22:58:53 GMT -5
I totally agree. I was ruining across the dread in my sheilded cossack, when a Leo decided to make it his mission to destroy me. Just let me step 100 more meters grab the beacon and I will stand still so you cab kill me on one shot of your thunder and not 17 as I dance.
The problem with posting here id's the ones that need to read it aren't here. We all get it, except for a few that just kill from the countdown.
My two copper pennies!
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Post by Paps on Dec 5, 2017 0:00:38 GMT -5
We can all sing kumbaya around the beacons. Just remember not to shoot me if I'm on the other team. Should make my job easier.
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Post by ma'ElKoth on Dec 5, 2017 2:17:38 GMT -5
It's called War Robots not Beacon Swappers
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Post by Refuse2GrowUp on Dec 5, 2017 2:59:39 GMT -5
It's called War Robots not Beacon Swappers Way to be THAT guy
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Post by ma'ElKoth on Dec 5, 2017 3:14:02 GMT -5
It's called War Robots not Beacon Swappers Way to be THAT guy See, I am not going after these bots for the sole purpose of destroying someones game plan. On the other hand, if I am shooting at such bot, there is no reason to complain either - the plan did just not work then. And, after all, have you considered that a beacon-swapping-Cossack might be screwing up the game for the rest of the team that try to win? May be being on a win-task? People running around in their Cossacks in Diamond league and solely care about capping beacons and especially standing there SWAPPING beacons, do not care for the team. They care for themselves. And then ask others to care for them and their tasks as well? Sorry, I care for the match.
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Post by paladinxxx on Dec 5, 2017 3:28:12 GMT -5
See, I am not going after these bots for the sole purpose of destroying someones game plan. On the other hand, if I am shooting at such bot, there is no reason to complain either - the plan did just not work then. And, after all, have you considered that a beacon-swapping-Cossack might be screwing up the game for the rest of the team that try to win? May be being on a win-task? People running around in their Cossacks in Diamond league and solely care about capping beacons and especially standing there SWAPPING beacons, do not care for the team. They care for themselves. And then ask others to care for them and their tasks as well? Sorry, I care for the match. This.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Dec 5, 2017 4:00:32 GMT -5
You expect too much from randoms, many of whom probably don’t read this forum anyways, or who may be in kills or wins. Instead of expecting them to even know what beacon swapping is, put some weapons on an effective robot for your league and learn to:
1) take a Beacon by force
2) let them merely cause the beacon to START to blink, murder them, then take it. It is not necessary for it to become white or red in order to get the beacon cap credit. As soon as your blue beacon starts to blink, you can kill them, retake it, and get credit.
3) turn a beacon, walk away and feign disinterest in taking it again, let red start to take beacon, return from another angle, murder them, retake
4) pay attention to where majority reds are congregating, sneak to a distant beacon
5) don’t forget more than one blue can take the same beacon and get credit. If all 6 teammates enter beacon zone, all 6 get credit, so do your best to get into that zone even if someone else is already taking it
These are some of the ways to get through beacon task more quickly. It is not a good decision to use unarmed robots or to use robots you are not good at piloting, because robots that last longer give you greater opportunity to keep murdering reds and snakeing beacons
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Post by Refuse2GrowUp on Dec 5, 2017 4:22:24 GMT -5
@ma'ElKoth paladinxxxѻﻭɼﻉFor context, I have an 6/7 hanger with a couple weapons at lvl 8, and I am playing in D2 League. Most of my matches are up against players much more leveled than I am. And don't get me wrong...that is neither a complaint nor an excuse for taking shortcuts. I prefer the challenge. I earned the Kumi in the Halloween event without every dumping a match or tanking, and will do the same this event(s). I normally have Kumi in my hanger, and when doing beacons tasks I also throw a Gareth and a Rog in my hanger. All of them armed. I win a fair share of my matches. But letting two players swap beacons without interfering and killing the red, or letting a red light bot, who obviously is just chasing beacons, capture a beacon before moving over to take it back, doesn't ruin my chances of still getting a win. If I am really concerned about the win, I will let the enemy light bot capture the beacon, then kill the bot and take the beacon back. If the light bot starts shooting at me, unless it becomes obvious it is loaded with MkII monstrosities, I will give it a couple shots to realize I'm not shooting back before I return fire to protect me bot. If I was able to earn the Kumi, without tanking, and without dumping matches, while still letting my fellow players complete their tasks, and I managed to climb leagues while doing so, then I fail to see how any argument to the contrary holds weight. And also note that I don't condone the Cossack hanger, grab a beacon or two then bounce BS. Unless you are squading with clan mates to prevent getting these morons on your side in a match, then you have no control over it. You do however have control of your own actions and how you effect others. Whether going for wins, chasing beacons, or tallying kills, I play all my matches to completion, and always try to help my fellow blues with a win...because I am always cognizant that they may be on wins while I am on a different task.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Dec 5, 2017 4:53:09 GMT -5
@ma'ElKoth paladinxxxѻﻭɼﻉFor context, I have an 6/7 hanger with a couple weapons at lvl 8, and I am playing in D2 League. Most of my matches are up against players much more leveled than I am. And don't get me wrong...that is neither a complaint nor an excuse for taking shortcuts. I prefer the challenge. I earned the Kumi in the Halloween event without every dumping a match or tanking, and will do the same this event(s). I normally have Kumi in my hanger, and when doing beacons tasks I also throw a Gareth and a Rog in my hanger. All of them armed. I win a fair share of my matches. But letting two players swap beacons without interfering and killing the red, or letting a red light bot, who obviously is just chasing beacons, capture a beacon before moving over to take it back, doesn't ruin my chances of still getting a win. If I am really concerned about the win, I will let the enemy light bot capture the beacon, then kill the bot and take the beacon back. If the light bot starts shooting at me, unless it becomes obvious it is loaded with MkII monstrosities, I will give it a couple shots to realize I'm not shooting back before I return fire to protect me bot. If I was able to earn the Kumi, without tanking, and without dumping matches, while still letting my fellow players complete their tasks, and I managed to climb leagues while doing so, then I fail to see how any argument to the contrary holds weight. And also note that I don't condone the Cossack hanger, grab a beacon or two then bounce BS. Unless you are squading with clan mates to prevent getting these morons on your side in a match, then you have no control over it. You do however have control of your own actions and how you effect others. Whether going for wins, chasing beacons, or tallying kills, I play all my matches to completion, and always try to help my fellow blues with a win...because I am always cognizant that they may be on wins while I am on a different task. Thx for clarifying. My main point is that if we are running solo, we need to just play as normal and not expect randoms to swap beacons. I get that you are making a point so more people will swap, but really it isn’t very realistic. If it is your personal ethic or there is some clear unspoken understanding that arises, sure, go with it, but people getting mad that reds don’t take the cues or aren’t interested in swaps or mercy is not just silly, it’s shooper dooper shilly
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Post by ma'ElKoth on Dec 5, 2017 5:33:09 GMT -5
[.....] I win a fair share of my matches. But letting two players swap beacons without interfering and killing the red, or letting a red light bot, who obviously is just chasing beacons, capture a beacon before moving over to take it back, doesn't ruin my chances of still getting a win. If I am really concerned about the win, I will let the enemy light bot capture the beacon, then kill the bot and take the beacon back. If the light bot starts shooting at me, unless it becomes obvious it is loaded with MkII monstrosities, I will give it a couple shots to realize I'm not shooting back before I return fire to protect me bot. [.....] All well and good! What you write I can absolutely appreciate. And I am not blaming you for anything and I am not accusing you of anything. Concerning the " doesn't ruin my chances of still getting a win", though, I need to add that there have been numerous matches where holding/not loosing (or not) a beacon for a mere seconds decided the outcome. And concerning " letting a red light bot [...] capture a beacon before moving over to take it back", that's an additional issue. "moving over" may take time - time that I will not be fighting red or unavailable to assist some team mate - and the further this is away, the longer I have "handed over a beacon" to the enemy team. So if I see a red running at a beacon, I will try to prevent it from taking it, if the situation allows, rather than "leaving the fight" to move over to retake it.
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Post by Radar love on Dec 5, 2017 6:32:01 GMT -5
Something else I found funny. Literally had a guy come all the way across Springfield. Made it to me to swap beacons ave muy yeah blew him up. This happened twice. (Sad face)
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 5, 2017 7:56:22 GMT -5
Funny thread! I've done this. I can't take the chance that it's a guy wanting to do a beacon swap. How many of us have seen a light bot successfully steal a flank or home beacon only have have hordes of reds come spawning through that beacon and then face fire from 2 directions?
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Post by Domino on Dec 5, 2017 8:08:45 GMT -5
Idk about you guys but I'm still doing wins. Doesn't help me to give you a beacon and waste time.
Sorry but your 「bum-bum」 is grass
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Post by moolamu on Dec 5, 2017 8:50:45 GMT -5
Refuse2GrowUpThere is no need to blame other players. Everyone's doing a different task. I for one, just want to play some Mechwarrior on the phone. Instead, it turns into Need for Speed at the start of every match, followed by some sort of ritualistic suicide pact. That's not fun for me either. I blame Pixonic for poor design because the tasks don't even encourage players to actually play the game.
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Post by Alpha on Dec 5, 2017 8:52:35 GMT -5
I can't help but laugh at all the try-hards who chase an unarmed light bot, or even an armed one, all the way across a map trying to get a kill. Do you not realize an event is in progress and they are merely trying to capture a beacon. Cease fire morons!! Instead of shooting at them, try beacon swapping with them. Or if you are on kills and suck so bad you feel you can't get the kills any other way than to murder that light bot, at least let them capture the beacon first. It is in your best interest anyway, as you can then take the beacon right back and be that much more likely to get the gold for match beacon captures. And you light bots wanting to capture beacons...don't shoot. If you prove to be aggressive, you might just draw the wrath of someone whom might have otherwise left you alone. We are only a few hours into the event but I have already lost count of the number of Stalkers who insist on dancing around me kicking at my ankles as I stand there not shooting giving them a chance to move away and beacon swap. These events go a lot quicker if we all give each other some courtesy +100 to this, However amid a battle i was @ a beacon where i was hit by two robots one a small guy obviously trying to get beacons other same but a griffin in which i killed and had one shot @ the little guy before realizing he was no real threat, i stood back and was letting him get the beacon. he ran away and stood back, so i shoot a few shots just by him not hitting him then shoot at the beacon trying to tell him to go get it. well do you think he did? no he just stood there, so i got the beacon and moved on. just to prove it does not always work, you will always get those who don't understand War Robots in game talk.
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Post by mechtout on Dec 5, 2017 9:32:17 GMT -5
The only excuse i can think of is that completing tasks is mind numbing. You literally become a robot
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Post by CrownBlack on Dec 5, 2017 9:33:00 GMT -5
I love how now we have to play because of some unwritten code because someone is on some beacon run. Tough 「dookie」. I am not chasing an ECU Cossack around a map to kill it but if it is close enough then game on.
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Dec 5, 2017 9:34:17 GMT -5
If you're going to try beacon swapping, go armed in case the other guy doesn't want to. If you get cooperation, great. If you don't, you're ready.
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Post by abarus39 on Dec 5, 2017 9:40:57 GMT -5
I have beacon swapped with a Cossack before when I was on beacon task in Dead city once and it was great, we swapped eight times. We ended up losing the match though and Im sure me being distracted capping the same beacon over and over played some part in that. In short, had I been on kill or win task I would have mowed him down without thinking twice.
I usually only shoot at beacon cappers when no better target presents itself.
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Post by bloodynipples on Dec 5, 2017 9:47:30 GMT -5
I can't help but laugh at all the little bots running for beacons that I blow apart before they reach their 2nd beacon. Then they run a 2nd...and a 3rd.... and their team loses.
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Post by Lynx on Dec 5, 2017 9:56:37 GMT -5
I've tried to do beacon swap with some people but they just don't get it. So when they blast my ECU Cossack, I spawn in with Orkan/Pinata Griffin or Tara Fujin to blast them off that beacon and prevent them from getting near it for their ignorance. I tried swapping a beacon with an ECU Cossack in my ECU mag Stalker on dreadnought.The idiot just didn't take the message.Managed to swap once,then he just started trying to push me off so I killed him as another red had started shooting at me.I don't know whether these guys actually take the message or not,but it makes me reluctant to swap beacons as I can usually make it all the way upto red spawn,and trying to swap beacons with someone who just doesn't understand swapping makes me lose beacons and puts my team at a greater disadvantage
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Post by Danny Linguini on Dec 5, 2017 10:52:48 GMT -5
Everybody just disarm your entire hangars! And we'll all just go out on massive beacon swaps.
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Post by amidf on Dec 5, 2017 11:04:53 GMT -5
What's my motivation to help some dipstick get a Shocktrain Bulgasari, again? I didn't see the rationale in this thread. More Shocktrains will improve my game experience how?
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on Dec 5, 2017 11:08:17 GMT -5
What's my motivation to help some dipstick get a Shocktrain Bulgasari, again? I didn't see the rationale in this thread. More Shocktrains will improve my game experience how? Because you'll have to read their posts that less often.
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Post by Forumite on Dec 5, 2017 13:13:46 GMT -5
I shoot every freaking red I can, especially if the are capping Der beacons.
Why?
Cause I play to Win. And beacons win matches last time I checked.
So yeah, sometimes I will chase the little bastage down because left unchecked, he can turn the match in the enemies favor.
Btw, If you chose to help someone upgrade their hanger (that you may well fight later) then you are a dumbbutt, IMO. No offense, just sayin.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Dec 5, 2017 16:03:54 GMT -5
Heh I tried a beacon swap with a Leo yesterday. Rounded the corner and I didn't immediately fire. Well, short story shorter, he did, so I had to vaporize him. I'll try again tonight ?
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Post by Thunderkiss on Dec 5, 2017 16:06:10 GMT -5
What's my motivation to help some dipstick get a Shocktrain Bulgasari, again? I didn't see the rationale in this thread. More Shocktrains will improve my game experience how? Bah, gonna happen with or without your help ? The meta is gonna go to 「dookie」 reaaaaaal soon.
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