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Post by AVC on Nov 26, 2017 21:17:55 GMT -5
Someone will spend $150 on a date that lasts maybe 4 hours, and then it's gone forever. Sure, you have a memory of it, but the experience itself will last you 4 hours and nothing more. Here's the difference: You spend $150 on a date and there is a chance you could get a screw at the end of it. You spend $150 on a single robot and weapon and you are definitely getting screwed. No lube.
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Post by ᕲΣΣᕲƧ on Nov 26, 2017 22:24:18 GMT -5
No robot or weapon is worth $100, but that also depends on how this game really means to you. The real value of a high price, comes not from pay to win but rather from sheer rarity, like when so other few people have it. Haechi also isn't the wunderkind some people make it out to be. Of course, when facing a whole coordinated herd of them piloted by champion players, that's different, other factors comes into play to create a unbeatable synergy. Swarm bots tend to get stronger in swarms. But isolated and without support and their swarm comrades, they are no different, and are vulnerable like any other bot. The most expensive items I have ever seen in a game are the $500 gold skinned mechs that were very limited (I think 500 only) that Mechwarrior online sold once. The rarity of the dash bots, Inquisitor and cash weapons are decreasing daily. The novelty and shock effect of facing something new is wearing off, and the player base is developing the psychological and tactical fortitude to deal with them. Are you saying there is a bot other than Haechi you would select if you had to pick the single best bot? Say you were going to play a 1 vs 1 tournament and could have any bot you wanted. What would you take? Like all other bots, yes, Haechi is vulnerable. Haechi is less vulnerable though. It's shield, speed, and firepower make it a handful to deal with. Other bots may do 1 of the 3 better, but nothing else comes close to combining all 3. If played with patience, it can be almost unstoppable. Maybe it just compliments my style perfectly. Haechi just works so well for me compared to anything else. It's so strong I tend to think my moves out more carefully, because losing it is a rather large setback. Much more so than losing an ancilot or some random griff.
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Post by leavemealone on Nov 26, 2017 22:40:37 GMT -5
Owning $100 single binary numbers is a joke. It be funnier if two months down the road they nerf dash bot
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Post by anjian on Nov 26, 2017 22:51:38 GMT -5
No robot or weapon is worth $100, but that also depends on how this game really means to you. The real value of a high price, comes not from pay to win but rather from sheer rarity, like when so other few people have it. Haechi also isn't the wunderkind some people make it out to be. Of course, when facing a whole coordinated herd of them piloted by champion players, that's different, other factors comes into play to create a unbeatable synergy. Swarm bots tend to get stronger in swarms. But isolated and without support and their swarm comrades, they are no different, and are vulnerable like any other bot. The most expensive items I have ever seen in a game are the $500 gold skinned mechs that were very limited (I think 500 only) that Mechwarrior online sold once. The rarity of the dash bots, Inquisitor and cash weapons are decreasing daily. The novelty and shock effect of facing something new is wearing off, and the player base is developing the psychological and tactical fortitude to deal with them. Are you saying there is a bot other than Haechi you would select if you had to pick the single best bot? Say you were going to play a 1 vs 1 tournament and could have any bot you wanted. What would you take? Like all other bots, yes, Haechi is vulnerable. Haechi is less vulnerable though. It's shield, speed, and firepower make it a handful to deal with. Other bots may do 1 of the 3 better, but nothing else comes close to combining all 3. If played with patience, it can be almost unstoppable. Maybe it just compliments my style perfectly. Haechi just works so well for me compared to anything else. It's so strong I tend to think my moves out more carefully, because losing it is a rather large setback. Much more so than losing an ancilot or some random griff. I also have a Haechi. I find it strong when players are not strong, or not experienced or set up to deal with it. But if players know what they are doing, set up for it, has the right map and map strategy, they can more than deal with it.
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Post by anjian on Nov 26, 2017 22:52:42 GMT -5
Owning $100 single binary numbers is a joke. It be funnier if two months down the road they nerf dash bot Sounds like crypto-currency.
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Post by chiya1 on Nov 26, 2017 22:54:15 GMT -5
That amount of money for a virtual robot? Depends on your disposable income. Do you save/invest about $1000 in the timeframe as you spend $100 in digital goods, like this offer? If yes, then sure, go for it, live a little. If not... Consider your life a few years forward. You should probably not use that much on this kind of entertainment. 10% of saving on 1 game is costly lol
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Post by hyderier on Nov 27, 2017 1:17:17 GMT -5
That amount of money for a virtual robot? Depends on your disposable income. Do you save/invest about $1000 in the timeframe as you spend $100 in digital goods, like this offer? If yes, then sure, go for it, live a little. If not... Consider your life a few years forward. You should probably not use that much on this kind of entertainment. +1 upvote for hyderier getting a "trusted" status. Ha! Thanks, but I think my days with War Robots, and as such being active on this forum, are rather numbered (not to mention some of my more controversial opinions).
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Post by valoricus on Nov 27, 2017 8:42:00 GMT -5
Don’t do it. The more folks spend $100 or more for a single item the more it validates Pixonic’s god awful pricing structure. The future is uncertain with games like BoT on the horizon. I know it’s tempting but don’t sanction customer abuse by paying those prices!
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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 27, 2017 9:20:06 GMT -5
There are too many dash bots with MK2 weapons in Expert league I/Master III
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Post by elcheapo on Nov 27, 2017 9:23:07 GMT -5
Nothing in this game is worth 99 bucks .
Only a chance ? I dont think you are doing right bro.
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Post by MΞCHДИISΓIC on Nov 27, 2017 9:36:21 GMT -5
LOL...I am 68 and retired. I live day-by-day and am grateful to God to wake up every morning. So long term investments aren't a worry. I am more interested in the actual bots/weapons and their capabilities. Don't really need financial advice. And when I was playing World of Tanks, I easily spent more than $100 a month in that game. Well piloted, ember/taran inquisitor is one tough bot. Whether worth $200 is your call of course.
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Post by bronzeknee on Nov 27, 2017 9:47:27 GMT -5
That hasn't been my experience anjian. A well piloted Haechi with Shocktrains can dominate a match alone. I've seen that many times, when I'm running with my clan on comms (this is at the top of Android), we call them out and attempt to trap them, usually sending 2-3 pilots against them. If we aren't able to catch them quickly, game over. If they are protected by teammates well, game over.
Alternatively, if there are several, it is game.
Last night we had 5 of us together and one random player had a Haechi with Shocktrains on our team and we won easily versus 6 randoms. The very next match we went against 6 randoms but that Shocktrain player was on the other team and we lost a close match. Both matches he survived the entire game in one robot and lead the game in damage.
It wasn't unlike BagofSoup's video:
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Post by Danny Linguini on Nov 27, 2017 10:11:45 GMT -5
We spend hundreds on good food we poop out, and hundreds on all sorts of hobbies. The logic people use to devalue games in comparison to other world experiences is nonsensical. I get being reasonable to prepare for the future, but it is not unreasonable to buy enjoyments that are not ‘tangible goods’. Where is your vacation now; your music concert now; your delicious dessert now; all those movies now? You paid for enjoyable experiences that are now only a pleasant memory. If you think about it, those things I just mentioned are occasional, yet we spend many hours day playing this game, so why not spend to enjoy new toys? People paint people who spend in a negative way on this forum, but it’s total bs. I don't know about anybody else, but my logic is based on a comparison of other mobile games. It wasn't all that long ago that people were moaning at having to pay $5 onetime for a full-featured version of a game over the limited freebie version. All of a sudden it's expected to dump hundreds, maybe thousands of dollars on virtual objects that are just minor pieces of a whole game in order to be competitive at medium-high levels. I guess there are other games out there now in the same neighborhood, and that's what I assume justifies what some of us consider to be outrageous. But the point is, I'm comparing this to other electronic games, not other forms of entertainment. I'm not gonna judge anyone -- if they feel it's worth spending that kind of money on, then more power to 'em.
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Post by krebby on Nov 27, 2017 10:22:02 GMT -5
No, you shouldn't spend $200 on a single bot + a single weapon. That price is utterly absurd. Even if you have a couple of leveled Tarans or Orkans, you still are looking at spending about 20 days and 70,000,000 Ag to level up the bot, and another 17 days and 63,000,000 Ag to level the weapon.
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Nov 27, 2017 10:38:24 GMT -5
It's not worth it to me, but if you've got it to spend and you want it, have at it. I have no problem with folks spending their own money however they see fit. That's what I do. I have yet to spend a dime on War Robots. At first it was because, "It's just a video game". Others have made the valid point that we spend money on a ton of non durable things that have no tangible value, so we shouldn't withhold our money from helping us enjoy a video game. I see where they're coming from, and can get behind that point of view, too. At this point, around 2 years in, it's more being stubborn probably, trying to enjoy the game in spite of the changes that have taken place of late.
Bottom line: it's your wallet, sir. Empty it in whatever way you see fit, and happy gaming! See you on the battlefield, hopefully in blue.
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 27, 2017 11:04:48 GMT -5
LOL...I am 68 and retired. I live day-by-day and am grateful to God to wake up every morning. So long term investments aren't a worry. I am more interested in the actual bots/weapons and their capabilities. Don't really need financial advice. And when I was playing World of Tanks, I easily spent more than $100 a month in that game. If you have the dough, go for it. I wouldn't spend money on the Inquisitor, but the Ember is a good weapon. Put it on a Leo with 3 magnums and you'll rule knife fights. Or put it on a Lancelot with tarans.
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Post by Alpha on Nov 27, 2017 11:12:29 GMT -5
If you can afford it, (what i mean is: if you drop'd that money on the floor and wouldn't miss it) then yes go ahead and treat yourself, to answer if they will go down in price: most probably (but at the same time no one can actually truly answer this but Pix themselves (not entirely sure they would though!), will you get ridiculed for doing so probably, will you have a few hours worth of fun, probably is it worth the money, well it would actually cost more to go paintball or go kart racing which all will not take more than three hours each, so on that bases yes it probably is worth it. However if money is tight i guess the answer is NO!
hope this helps
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Post by deputy666 on Nov 27, 2017 11:51:59 GMT -5
Well, as a THINKING ADULT, I decided against it. Not because I didn't think it was worth the $$$ to buy it. If they have a similar sale next month, you can bet I will jump on it. I passed it by because I know how to prioritize things. That's where the THINKING comes in. It seems some folks just can't control their spending. That's a shame, but not my problem. My problem is I have a property tax bill coming due in 15 days and that's $1100 I have no choice about spending. So I held off on buying anything from that particular sale. I DO appreciate the suggestions for how to use those weapons. I will file that for future use. All-in-all a very productive and valuable thread. Certainly better than the usual whining that goes on about "Pay-to-Win" and other such nonsense.
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Post by hyderier on Nov 27, 2017 11:56:45 GMT -5
If you can afford it, (what i mean is: if you drop'd that money on the floor and wouldn't miss it) then yes go ahead and treat yourself, to answer if they will go down in price: most probably (but at the same time no one can actually truly answer this but Pix themselves (not entirely sure they would though!), will you get ridiculed for doing so probably, will you have a few hours worth of fun, probably is it worth the money, well it would actually cost more to go paintball or go kart racing which all will not take more than three hours each, so on that bases yes it probably is worth it. However if money is tight i guess the answer is NO! The difference with gokart or paintball is, you are paying to do them at all. With War Robots, you are paying to play with Inqu (or whatever) as opposed to playing with Ancilot or DB Griffin or whatever else you would have if you didn't pay quite so ridiculously much (or at all). A bit like playing $200 extra to have a bigger engine in gokart (while on the same track with smaller engined cars), or something.
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Post by deputy666 on Nov 27, 2017 12:16:32 GMT -5
If you can afford it, (what i mean is: if you drop'd that money on the floor and wouldn't miss it) then yes go ahead and treat yourself, to answer if they will go down in price: most probably (but at the same time no one can actually truly answer this but Pix themselves (not entirely sure they would though!), will you get ridiculed for doing so probably, will you have a few hours worth of fun, probably is it worth the money, well it would actually cost more to go paintball or go kart racing which all will not take more than three hours each, so on that bases yes it probably is worth it. However if money is tight i guess the answer is NO! The difference with gokart or paintball is, you are paying to do them at all. With War Robots, you are paying to play with Inqu (or whatever) as opposed to playing with Ancilot or DB Griffin or whatever else you would have if you didn't pay quite so ridiculously much (or at all). A bit like playing $200 extra to have a bigger engine in gokart (while on the same track with smaller engined cars), or something. Trust me, if the rules allowed it, people would pay a hell of a lot more than $200 for a bigger/better engine in the go-kart. BTW...many go-kart races pay out CASH to the top 3 places. So you actually WIN real money, instead of tokens or fake gold. That's a big difference right there.
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Post by Alpha on Nov 28, 2017 7:15:22 GMT -5
The difference with gokart or paintball is, you are paying to do them at all. With War Robots, you are paying to play with Inqu (or whatever) as opposed to playing with Ancilot or DB Griffin or whatever else you would have if you didn't pay quite so ridiculously much (or at all). A bit like playing $200 extra to have a bigger engine in gokart (while on the same track with smaller engined cars), or something. Trust me, if the rules allowed it, people would pay a hell of a lot more than $200 for a bigger/better engine in the go-kart. BTW...many go-kart races pay out CASH to the top 3 places. So you actually WIN real money, instead of tokens or fake gold. That's a big difference right there. That is all fine and dandy, and yes there is always a slight difference, my point is that if you are willing to spend on go carting, watching a movie, going paint balling, etc. etc. all the stuff you pay for which you do not actually get anything for other than pure enjoyment then there really is no difference to pay for Virtual Reality stuff which you may get enjoyment. You pays your money you get your choice. I play SWTOR and pay £10 pounds a month for the privilege does that make me a mug? bearing in mind i enjoy playing it, yes the money is a lot less but i have been playing since launch which is nearly 7 years now (over £1000 pounds). To some it is not worth it cause maybe they will not get enough enjoyment, but to some it sure would be. i only gave my two cents worth as the question was asked.
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Post by krebby on Nov 28, 2017 10:03:05 GMT -5
Trust me, if the rules allowed it, people would pay a hell of a lot more than $200 for a bigger/better engine in the go-kart. BTW...many go-kart races pay out CASH to the top 3 places. So you actually WIN real money, instead of tokens or fake gold. That's a big difference right there. That is all fine and dandy, and yes there is always a slight difference, my point is that if you are willing to spend on go carting, watching a movie, going paint balling, etc. etc. all the stuff you pay for which you do not actually get anything for other than pure enjoyment then there really is no difference to pay for Virtual Reality stuff which you may get enjoyment. You pays your money you get your choice. I play SWTOR and pay £10 pounds a month for the privilege does that make me a mug? bearing in mind i enjoy playing it, yes the money is a lot less but i have been playing since launch which is nearly 7 years now (over £1000 pounds). To some it is not worth it cause maybe they will not get enough enjoyment, but to some it sure would be. i only gave my two cents worth as the question was asked. I understand your point of view. For me, I'm with Danny above. I don't compare spending on a mobile to spending on the most expensive entertainment options available (like going to a movie theatre or theme parks); I compare it to other video games. And spending on War Robots doesn't come out looking too good in that regard. The DIESS releases changed me from a spender into a FTP player. What's the point of spending $20 on this game? It doesn't come close to the price of a single OPed bot or weapon. Any non-OPed content I could buy for $20 wouldn't fare any better against DIESS than the stuff I have, to say nothing about the time and expense to level anything so it can be reasonably effective. Pixonic has made it very clear that it only wants a whole lot of your money, or none at all. Given those choices, I chose none.
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Post by ʂωєєтცяєα∂ on Nov 30, 2017 6:32:58 GMT -5
Got a fully leveled Ember/Taran Inquisitor at MK2 Level 12 and itâs a beast. I love serving up BBQ Dash and Ancilot for supper. Watch them dash and try to run away while Iâm frying their 「multiple dookie delivery chute」. The best part is that when Iâm behind cover, these players donât know what Iâm running until I jump out on them. Lol
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Post by hon_shu on Nov 30, 2017 12:31:17 GMT -5
Got a fully leveled Ember/Taran Inquisitor at MK2 Level 12 and itâs a beast. I love serving up BBQ Dash and Ancilot for supper. Watch them dash and try to run away while Iâm frying their 「multiple dookie delivery chute」. The best part is that when Iâm behind cover, these players donât know what Iâm running until I jump out on them. Lol And that's in Champion League I presume? I'm surprised if it worked more than once per match, Inquisitors are "stealth" alright, but once you've used it everyone on the field knows you're running one.
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Nov 30, 2017 12:38:19 GMT -5
Got a fully leveled Ember/Taran Inquisitor at MK2 Level 12 and itâs a beast. I love serving up BBQ Dash and Ancilot for supper. Watch them dash and try to run away while Iâm frying their 「multiple dookie delivery chute」. The best part is that when Iâm behind cover, these players donât know what Iâm running until I jump out on them. Lol And that's in Champion League I presume? I'm surprised if it worked more than once per match, Inquisitors are "stealth" alright, but once you've used it everyone on the field knows you're running one. If you get good with one, it's an incredible setup. The key isn't much different than a Griffin. Don't use your ability unless you have to, and save it for escapes rather than using it offensively.
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Post by deputy666 on Nov 30, 2017 12:42:50 GMT -5
Trust me, if the rules allowed it, people would pay a hell of a lot more than $200 for a bigger/better engine in the go-kart. BTW...many go-kart races pay out CASH to the top 3 places. So you actually WIN real money, instead of tokens or fake gold. That's a big difference right there. That is all fine and dandy, and yes there is always a slight difference, my point is that if you are willing to spend on go carting, watching a movie, going paint balling, etc. etc. all the stuff you pay for which you do not actually get anything for other than pure enjoyment then there really is no difference to pay for Virtual Reality stuff which you may get enjoyment. You pays your money you get your choice. I play SWTOR and pay £10 pounds a month for the privilege does that make me a mug? bearing in mind i enjoy playing it, yes the money is a lot less but i have been playing since launch which is nearly 7 years now (over £1000 pounds). To some it is not worth it cause maybe they will not get enough enjoyment, but to some it sure would be. i only gave my two cents worth as the question was asked. I'm not arguing with you. I agree 100%. People should be able to spend money on whatever THEY think gives them enjoyment. What makes me slightly uneasy is my money is going to a company called Mail.Ru. And that company has been a tad more than "shady" with their other games.
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Post by stokr on Nov 30, 2017 13:18:40 GMT -5
With the release of BoT (arguably by January) many players will shift from War Robots to BoT, in retrospect this will cause a longer waiting time to find a match (assuming you find one after BoT is released.) Since there is uncertainty future regarding where this game is going, spending even $0.99 would be a waste until BoT is released and see whether the game is dying or not. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/17179/leaving-pixo-good is a perfect example of why you should save your money How long have you been playing BoT?
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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 30, 2017 14:09:51 GMT -5
With the release of BoT (arguably by January) many players will shift from War Robots to BoT, in retrospect this will cause a longer waiting time to find a match (assuming you find one after BoT is released.) Since there is uncertainty future regarding where this game is going, spending even $0.99 would be a waste until BoT is released and see whether the game is dying or not. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/17179/leaving-pixo-good is a perfect example of why you should save your money How long have you been playing BoT? I never played BoT since it's not released yet.
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Post by danny on Nov 30, 2017 15:02:57 GMT -5
Self-control and self-restraint are necessary life skills to develop. Let's use the many temptations this game puts up to develop those skills.
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Post by stokr on Nov 30, 2017 15:44:25 GMT -5
How long have you been playing BoT? I never played BoT since it's not released yet. That's not much of a foundation for predictions. I dunno...maybe get into the beta before playing Nostradamus.
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