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Post by Maximus on Nov 22, 2017 12:49:57 GMT -5
Hoveris same cost as the Korean bots so don't know why people are saying it's cheaper. If your getting a exclusive deal don't waffle buy or dont buy.i have not received a discount deal so only going off of what I'm seeing after the update. Where are you seeing that cost for Korean bots? Hover is $47.99 USD, but Korean bots cost about $220 USD. They both cost 10k components, but the actual real money price per component is higher for Korean bots. EDIT: Saw your correction, dogman171.
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Post by bronzeknee on Nov 22, 2017 12:56:13 GMT -5
probably not the best bang for our buck. There is no point to spending real money on anything except a Haechi and Shocktrains right now if you are playing to win.
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Post by bronzeknee on Nov 22, 2017 12:57:09 GMT -5
Nope. Apparently that stealth costs extra money. The Hover bot never had stealth even in testing. But you don't have to pay for testing... give Pixonic time. Give them time.
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Post by Nitro on Nov 22, 2017 13:07:16 GMT -5
13 bucks isn't bad, I mean it's not a gold or silver weapon but at least it's not what other premium weapons cost. I'd still want to see one one action before I pulled the trigger, pun intended, though. Edit: Also the new map is supposed to be crooked, it's a battleship sunk into the sand... Maybe it will make dashing like all other uneven ground fail miserably and we can wreck dashes there!? Haven't even played the map yet but as a Kumiho pilot you bet your 「bum-bum」 that you'd have a swell time kicking MY 「bum-bum」 because my kumiho acts like it's drunk when it tries to walk down slopes. He keeps stumbling and the dash ability doesn't do very much to help that, seeing as dashing down a hill just ends up putting me in the air and falling straight back down. So yeah, dashes will get their 「bum-bum」 beat on this map, have fun ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png)
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Post by Ron Gaul on Nov 22, 2017 13:08:31 GMT -5
Hoveris same cost as the Korean bots so don't know why people are saying it's cheaper. If your getting a exclusive deal don't waffle buy or dont buy.i have not received a discount deal so only going off of what I'm seeing after the update. Dude, sure, Hover costs 10k components the "same" as the Haechi, Inquisitor...Ember, Scourge, Tempest, etc. All of the new stuff costs 10k components. However those components are not cross-robot; Inquisitor components can only be used for an Inquisitor, Haechi components only for Haechi. And so on. If the case was otherwise, there would be far less outcry. And a full set of Haechi components costs $200. A full set of Inquisitor components costs $300. A full set of Storm components costs $12. They are not equal, they are not comparable. This is a currency system for EACH ROBOT.
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Post by mallexx222 on Nov 22, 2017 14:17:37 GMT -5
Pix put out the dash bots and shock trains specifically because they were OP. The test's IMHO were to analyze how OP. Enough to draw in the whales to pay for them BUT not SOOOO much that the fan base would desert in great enough droves to destabilize the game. It's a business model and it sometimes borders on the precarious razors edge. Success, they sold very well, the dash bots anyway, Inquisitors are still fairly rare.
Now comes the fairly ordinary mech and bot and yes your assessments are all pretty accurate, again in my opinion, they are decidedly NOT OP. In fact they are very average that gain little to no strategic or tactical value. But cheap enough to entice some, not all, of the fan base and Whales will add them simply to be able to say that they have them. The game stays at it's current unbalanced level but doesn't in Pix eyes, make it any worse. AND they make some cash as always.
I think most players will simply look at the 3.4 upgrade and say "Meh. Whatever." and continue the fight looking forward to the X-Mas event.
A hover bot is only good if it can get you to a place that offers real cover and real advantage. Getting there may be the trick. It's a target, shock trains or not. Haechi can dart out, fire three shock trains, devastate opponents and disappear. Hovers will...well hover and NOT be behind cover and WILL get blown to scrap. I'm reminded of a very old daffy duck cartoon where he plays a salesman selling Porky Pig gizmo's for his house. As part of the home installments is a Red button that if hit raises the house to an extreme height to avoid tidal waves, make of it what you will. HOWEVER it does not have a button to get you back down. A.K.A. the blue button. After Porky hits the button out of curiosity and suffers the consequences Daffy shows up in a helicopter and says. "For an extra fee I can install this little blue button to get you down."
I think a lot of hover pilots are going to be looking desperately for that blue button..the one that Pix did NOT install.
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Post by moflete on Nov 22, 2017 14:32:49 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, does anyone know what the $$-to-gold conversion rate a year ago? Or even the spring? I'm specifically curious about what 5000 gold cost to get a Lance way back when. I'll answer my own question. From the Wiki: ![](https://i.imgur.com/IqU113U.jpg) So, if you could have a Lance for $40 at whatever point in time that was recorded on the page. So with that in mind, if a Hover is $48 and a Lance was $40 whenever that was, yes, there's a price creep but I wouldn't say it is completely outlandish. Less reasonable than getting a Lance (for everything it has proven to be), but I doubt the value is imbalanced. You have a very good point. My opinion is very limited since my standpoint is that I don't like to spend money on mobile games. Having said that, the main difference I see is that back then, you knew the path to your lancelot: just fight a lot, get beacons and collect gold (if you were not farming, clubbing or the like, just like me). Now the component thing is harder to grasp for me. The systems ("offers", keys....) somehow hammers your head repeatedly until you capitulate and take your ccard out of the wallet....
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Post by moflete on Nov 22, 2017 16:11:13 GMT -5
Sure, Hover being silver was probably a pipe dream for many of you, but Storm I thought was free. Cash or WSP for medium weapons, I guess. ![](https://i.imgur.com/ihPwlBu.png) Not to mention Storm firing sounds like a dump. ![](https://i.imgur.com/9ptplEA.png) Also, here's the new map. It's crooked as hell, and the background music sounds like it's from one of those Caillou gets grounded videos. ![](https://i.imgur.com/5RxdaOA.jpg) Well, Pixonic thought of economy players after all. ![](https://i.imgur.com/pQCc4bt.png) ![](https://i.imgur.com/QUTuB3P.png) Well, would any of you pay for them? With all due respect, but let's say it once and for all: Kang-Dae Noricum Natasha? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ? AAAAARRGGGHHH..... Sorry, my bad. I had to......
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Post by GuitarGuy on Nov 22, 2017 16:44:16 GMT -5
The prices seem fair to me and are on par with previous meta gear. Just imagine if they had done this with K bots and the new weapons. I personally know a dozen pilots that would still be playing and not moved on to Guns of Boom if they had just priced stuff fairly to begin with.
its virtual stuff. Not like you actually have a raw cost per unit if it was real. Seems to me it would be better to sell 50 units at $47.99 then one unit at $225.00 and your customers over all are much happier.
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Post by T34 on Nov 22, 2017 17:47:52 GMT -5
I think we are in a nebulous selling cycle for the previously released OP content. I am not sure how to view this latest release of weapons and bots. It could be a distraction/appeasement in response to the recent outcries. But even with this release there is an elephant in the room. Its the release of the multi hangers. That’s where they expect to make their money from giant whales and provide further advantage to them. Further release of OP content would have surely alienated deep pocketed customers.
So IMO Pix has furthered on the monitization track while pulling back on the release of OP content in order to prevent alienating the big whales. By not releasing OP content at a high price it gave those collecting components a glimmer of hope for catching up. Imagine the outcry from the masses if the new bots/weapons would have superseded the last ones and their component collection was for nothing. People have different limits but that would have tipped many over the edge.
Lets see what happens next……
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Post by seanh on Nov 22, 2017 19:01:52 GMT -5
I think it’s a simple case of covering bases. They are milking the high end quite well, but there is still a large portion of the player base that while will never drop 100+ per bot/ weapon, they will spend further down the scale, 20 a months maybe, 50 once in a while. They need a stream of content that will appeal to that end of the pricing spectrum.
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Post by leavemealone on Nov 22, 2017 21:24:09 GMT -5
Seem like they're running out of ideas so they'll looking for an easy quick fix money.
The new bot and weapon is so bad if they don't make the revenue sells then they have the shocktrain and the dash bots to fall back on.
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Post by shivaswrath on Nov 22, 2017 21:39:05 GMT -5
The hover is more expensive than a Lancelot. It sucks in utility by comparison.
The storm was fun but not $36 fun.
Hard pass....
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