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Post by Estoplast on Nov 22, 2017 3:20:59 GMT -5
Nope. I had 20, sold the rest a few days ago after speeding my AG dry.
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 22, 2017 3:21:03 GMT -5
Ok let's see if we can confirm the theory that you get less offers if you have more components stored. I have two friends with NO components stored (they just buy silver with them). One of them is in a higher league than me, btw, so that might be irrelevant. They just got these offers: A. 240 Ember + 240 Shocktrain = 1.600 WSP I have 19.659 total components stored (adding up the eight items; shocktrain has 8.405, being by far the most important one... ember is second with 3.000). And I got SEVEN offers, missing A, that is the WSP offer with the items I have most components stored (bad luck? who knows...). Android: I'm missing offer A. I have 5.5k Shocktrain, 4.8k Scourge/Haechi,3.8k Ember, 2k or less for the rest. 23k total components. FB GR: All 4 offers there. 13k components total, with 4.5k Shocktrain leading, 3k Ember, less than 2.4k for the rest. |
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 22, 2017 3:29:56 GMT -5
If you have 9 offers you have one more than us hehe. You seem to be the lucky one, getting WSP offers on the items you wanted to complete. Maybe Pixonic doesn't care that much about Tempest than other items like Haechi? Who knows Most definately. There seem to be decent Tempest offers almost every day, and I got one Tempest quickly for my FB account (had one and wanted a second). I usually try to pick up offers that give me an exchange rate of 1:4WSP (1 component I collect for 4 WSPs). For gold I'm more stingy (as I deplete my gold reserves and still convert better than 1:5 gold to WSP) and haven't bought anything except the Haechi offer way back. When the offers started I usually bought at lease one per day, under the same conditions. Now WSPs start to accumulate again. |
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Post by arakos on Nov 22, 2017 4:17:48 GMT -5
Thank you frunobulaxBoth of your posts are in line with what we are learning. Haechi, Shocktrain, Inquisitor, Bulgasari, Ember WSP offers dissappear quickly when you have them as "main" component items Tempest offers, on the other side, are pretty solid. That might be so with Scourges offers as well |
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Post by arakos on Nov 22, 2017 4:21:30 GMT -5
Nope. I had 20, sold the rest a few days ago after speeding my AG dry. And you are missing B and E. Hmmmm. What about your Kumiho and Bulgasari components stored? There must be a reason that explains why you're not getting these offers... |
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Post by hyderier on Nov 22, 2017 4:28:42 GMT -5
I currently have all 9 of the component offers that you posted. However, it did not skip WSP for items of which I have the most, as I had a tempest at 9550 or so today and got the same tempest WSP offer and also decided to play silver BM chest b/c I had 400 keys and I hit 50 Au and 500 tempest keys, so finished off a tempest for $0 RM. If you have 9 offers you have one more than us hehe. You seem to be the lucky one, getting WSP offers on the items you wanted to complete. Maybe Pixonic doesn't care that much about Tempest than other items like Haechi? Who knows Thank you for your imput! I got 1 Tempest with components already and didn't notice anything funny. I may have gotten less offers for a 2nd Tempest, now that I think about it... Unsure. |
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Post by arakos on Nov 22, 2017 4:31:29 GMT -5
If you have 9 offers you have one more than us hehe. You seem to be the lucky one, getting WSP offers on the items you wanted to complete. Maybe Pixonic doesn't care that much about Tempest than other items like Haechi? Who knows Thank you for your imput! I got 1 Tempest with components already and didn't notice anything funny. I may have gotten less offers for a 2nd Tempest, now that I think about it... Unsure. Read above. Tempest offers seem solid and behave in a different way than Haechi, Inquisitor, Bulgasari, Ember and Shocktrain offers Edit: what about your situation? Are you getting eight offers? |
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Post by Estoplast on Nov 22, 2017 4:39:37 GMT -5
Nope. I had 20, sold the rest a few days ago after speeding my AG dry. And you are missing B and E. Hmmmm. What about your Kumiho and Bulgasari components stored? There must be a reason that explains why you're not getting these offers... Thought about that. Really do not care so much. They will come. Got 6k Kumiho and 1,5k Bulgasari |
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 22, 2017 4:43:09 GMT -5
Thank you frunobulax Both of your posts are in line with what we are learning. Haechi, Shocktrain, Inquisitor, Bulgasari, Ember WSP offers dissappear quickly when you have them as "main" component items Tempest offers, on the other side, are pretty solid. That might be so with Scourges offers as well Of course, both Tempest and Scourge are not OP, even though they would be "meta" if we didn't have DIES. (just my humble opinion). Tempest could be considered as strong or even OP compared to the gold/WSP bots and weapons, but we don't see it much because (a) DIES is so much more OP, and (b) Tempest is not a DIES counter. Scourge is well balanced in any case, I'd even say the only really "meta" combination is Bulgasari/Scourge while I would be reluctant to recommend Scourges on any other setup. (You need a shield because you need long line of sight with Scourges, and on a Lance I prefer Punishers over Scourges.) There seem to be also a lot of decent Kumiho offers around. Kumiho, of course, has a very narrow role as leadoff beacon capper. And even though he's the best in that role by a mile, it isn't strictly necessary to have such a robot. On FB GR I was rotating the Kumiho in and out of my lineup, as I had 2 slots available for 3 robots (Orkan Kumiho, Orkan Doc, Tempest Natty), and I consider all 3 of them as pretty much equal (and all somewhat situational). Kumiho was a lock only in random games (where you can rely on your idiot teammates to ignore beacons), but in squads I often ran Doc and Natty. Pixo knows exactly which weapons and bots are OP, and keeps them rare. I saw a lot of Shocktrain offers until I came close to getting 5k components. (But what use is 1 Shocktrain?) |
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Post by arakos on Nov 22, 2017 5:05:48 GMT -5
Thank you frunobulax Both of your posts are in line with what we are learning. Haechi, Shocktrain, Inquisitor, Bulgasari, Ember WSP offers dissappear quickly when you have them as "main" component items Tempest offers, on the other side, are pretty solid. That might be so with Scourges offers as well Of course, both Tempest and Scourge are not OP, even though they would be "meta" if we didn't have DIES. (just my humble opinion). Tempest could be considered as strong or even OP compared to the gold/WSP bots and weapons, but we don't see it much because (a) DIES is so much more OP, and (b) Tempest is not a DIES counter. Scourge is well balanced in any case, I'd even say the only really "meta" combination is Bulgasari/Scourge while I would be reluctant to recommend Scourges on any other setup. (You need a shield because you need long line of sight with Scourges, and on a Lance I prefer Punishers over Scourges.) There seem to be also a lot of decent Kumiho offers around. Kumiho, of course, has a very narrow role as leadoff beacon capper. And even though he's the best in that role by a mile, it isn't strictly necessary to have such a robot. On FB GR I was rotating the Kumiho in and out of my lineup, as I had 2 slots available for 3 robots (Orkan Kumiho, Orkan Doc, Tempest Natty), and I consider all 3 of them as pretty much equal (and all somewhat situational). Kumiho was a lock only in random games (where you can rely on your idiot teammates to ignore beacons), but in squads I often ran Doc and Natty. Pixo knows exactly which weapons and bots are OP, and keeps them rare. I saw a lot of Shocktrain offers until I came close to getting 5k components. (But what use is 1 Shocktrain?) I think you're absolutely right Let's add Kumiho offers as "solid". At least they clearly differentiate from Haechi's ones, for example |
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Post by karlhungus on Nov 22, 2017 5:40:08 GMT -5
Now you mention it I do think I have usually completed on Au offers but perhaps that's just because I have gold and am generating wsp with it so can take gold offers more frequently than the wsp ones. Why would you take gold offers more frequently than WSP offers if you have lots of gold? At 188Au conversion per day is where a gold and WSP offer are of very similar value. even if you convert 298 per day it should be close to being very similar. with lots of gold in hand and willingness to pick up gold offers you should be able to pick both offers up. Am I missing something? I only (regularly) convert to the 29Au offer. The majority of offers I have wanted have been 3k+ comps so unable to take one every day. |
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Nov 22, 2017 5:55:15 GMT -5
So, for me (red I didn't get, green I did):
A. 240 Ember + 240 Shocktrain = 1.600 WSP
B. 180 Kumiho + 360 Haechi = 3.200 WSP
C. 140 Bulgasari + 480 Tempest = 1.800 WSP
D. 120 Inquisitor + 1.430 Scourge = 3.800 WSP
E. 360 Haechi + 140 Bulgasari = 800 AU
F. 120 Inquisitor + 180 Kumiho = 500 AU
G. 240 Ember + 480 Tempest = 500 AU
H. 1.430 Scourge + 240 Shocktrain = 900 AU
As a recap: android, expert, I'm 82,60% Shocktrain, 78,41% haeci, 77,70% Scourge. yesterday I sold everything else except less than 1000 components for Ember.
So, if the theory is correct, you wouldn't get WSP offers for Shokctrain or Haeci once you are over 75-80%, but you'd still get them for Scourge.
Also, there are, by now, three or four parallel threads discussing this.
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Nov 22, 2017 7:51:24 GMT -5
ok, for a brief moment (and I kick myself for not having taken a couple immediately) i had a number of double offers, with components slightly different.
240 emb 240 sho 1600 WSP
180 kum 120 hae 3200 WSP
140 bul 1430 tem 1800 WSP
140 bul 480 tem 1800 WSP
360 inq 480 sco 3800 WSP
120 inq 1430 sco 3800 WSP
120 hae 140 bul 800 Au
360 hae 140 bul 800 Au
360 inq 180 kum 500 Au
120 inq 180 kum 500 Au
240 emb 1430 tem 500 Au
210 emb 480 tem 500 Au
480 sco 240 sho 900 Au
1430 sco 240 sho 900 Au
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Post by arakos on Nov 22, 2017 16:15:32 GMT -5
I've listed today's (wednesday's) offers. I'm not missing any of them.
What about you guys?
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Post by grendelsbot on Nov 22, 2017 16:21:48 GMT -5
I they might do that offer more than just once as they do 50% offers all the time for things for gold at least.
I have the same offers. It's clearly a pattern as we are on Tempest as the weapon on sale at it's highest components (1430). This will last about a week then next up is Ember I believe then Shocktrain. Waiting on Ember or an Ember/Haechi WSP deal.
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Post by arakos on Nov 22, 2017 16:27:00 GMT -5
I they might do that offer more than just once as they do 50% offers all the time for things for gold at least. I have the same offers. It's clearly a pattern as we are on Tempest as the weapon on sale at it's highest components (1430). This will last about a week then next up is Ember I believe then Shocktrain. Waiting on Ember or an Ember/Haechi WSP deal. I wish you are right but I wouldn't bet on 100 AU and 100 WSP offers to come back. And I don't think we'll see 1.430 Ember or Shocktrain offers. Again, I wish you are right |
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Post by karlhungus on Nov 22, 2017 16:28:00 GMT -5
I've listed today's (wednesday's) offers. I'm not missing any of them. What about you guys? Not missing any today. |
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Post by bronzeknee on Nov 22, 2017 16:28:05 GMT -5
I got all the offers. I can't afford the gold for the Haechi though.
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Post by eluray on Nov 22, 2017 16:28:15 GMT -5
Dont miss any also
and i have two extra
100 au and 100 wsp for 120 hover 480 storm
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Nov 22, 2017 16:30:53 GMT -5
all 8 here, but I don't think today counts for much, update and introduction of new offers and all.
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Post by grendelsbot on Nov 22, 2017 16:34:19 GMT -5
I they might do that offer more than just once as they do 50% offers all the time for things for gold at least. I have the same offers. It's clearly a pattern as we are on Tempest as the weapon on sale at it's highest components (1430). This will last about a week then next up is Ember I believe then Shocktrain. Waiting on Ember or an Ember/Haechi WSP deal. I wish you are right but I wouldn't bet on 100 AU and 100 WSP offers to come back. And I don't think we'll see 1.430 Ember or Shocktrain offers. Again, I wish you are right OK well worst case they only offer a 30% discount. Still both items are priced ok. I didn't say the offers would be for 1430 The pattern(schedule) is: (I could have 3 and 4 switched and now we have the Storm so don't hold me on that because I don't know how that fits in yet) 1. Scourge - 1430 Components 2. Tempest - 1430 Components 3. Ember - 710 Components 4. Shocktrain - 710 Components The deals last about a week. I haven't counted the days exactly but I should. These are the max amount of components available in any deal, there are obviously deals with less. Note that it is obvious why Scourge and Tempest are higher as those are not as wanted as the others and not as new. That's my theory. Notice the 360 Haechi deal stopped today. As I expected it would as I think I was counting that. Now we are at the Inquisitor for it's 360. Either the Kumiho (not sure of component amount) or the Bulg at 480 will be after then back to Haechi. |
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Post by arakos on Nov 22, 2017 16:42:25 GMT -5
all 8 here, but I don't think today counts for much, update and introduction of new offers and all. I know, we'll have to wait till tomorrow. But it would be great if Pixonic returns to offer the same to everybody. You know... hope is the last thing you loose |
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Post by arakos on Nov 22, 2017 16:45:05 GMT -5
I wish you are right but I wouldn't bet on 100 AU and 100 WSP offers to come back. And I don't think we'll see 1.430 Ember or Shocktrain offers. Again, I wish you are right OK well worst case they only offer a 30% discount. Still both items are priced ok. I didn't say the offers would be for 1430 The pattern(schedule) is: (I could have 3 and 4 switched and now we have the Storm so don't hold me on that because I don't know how that fits in yet) 1. Scourge - 1430 Components 2. Tempest - 1430 Components 3. Ember - 710 Components 4. Shocktrain - 710 Components The deals last about a week. I haven't counted the days exactly but I should. These are the max amount of components available in any deal, there are obviously deals with less. Note that it is obvious why Scourge and Tempest are higher as those are not as wanted as the others and not as new. That's my theory. Notice the 360 Haechi deal stopped today. As I expected it would as I think I was counting that. Now we are at the Inquisitor for it's 360. Either the Kumiho (not sure of component amount) or the Bulg at 480 will be after then back to Haechi. That's very interesting, really hope you're right about the pattern About the 100 AU and WSP offers... the thing is I just don't believe those are normal "50% discount" ones. Seems to me like "first day" offers. But we won't have to wait much to know if they are or not |
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Nov 22, 2017 17:00:55 GMT -5
About the 100 AU and WSP offers... the thing is I just don't believe those are normal "50% discount" ones. Seems to me like "first day" offers. But we won't have to wait much to know if they are or not yeah, like the 1430 haeci components for 1000 Au the very first day that actually made people hope for a moment that it could be had for less than 10000 Au... |
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Post by U Camp = I Camp on Nov 22, 2017 18:35:25 GMT -5
I wish you are right but I wouldn't bet on 100 AU and 100 WSP offers to come back. And I don't think we'll see 1.430 Ember or Shocktrain offers. Again, I wish you are right OK well worst case they only offer a 30% discount. Still both items are priced ok. I didn't say the offers would be for 1430 The pattern(schedule) is: (I could have 3 and 4 switched and now we have the Storm so don't hold me on that because I don't know how that fits in yet) 1. Scourge - 1430 Components 2. Tempest - 1430 Components 3. Ember - 710 Components 4. Shocktrain - 710 Components The deals last about a week. I haven't counted the days exactly but I should. These are the max amount of components available in any deal, there are obviously deals with less. Note that it is obvious why Scourge and Tempest are higher as those are not as wanted as the others and not as new. That's my theory. Notice the 360 Haechi deal stopped today. As I expected it would as I think I was counting that. Now we are at the Inquisitor for it's 360. Either the Kumiho (not sure of component amount) or the Bulg at 480 will be after then back to Haechi. Great observation, really interesting. Hope you're right and keep it up! |
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