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Post by Refuse2GrowUp on Nov 15, 2017 21:18:59 GMT -5
I am mid-tier Gold 1 and for most the day my matches have been against Expert League players. Sucks, as I can pretty much guarentee I will be low man on the damage scale, so gold and key rewards have been poo-poo. It has forced me to play extremely agressive to rack up damage. And I have never been one to ignore beacons, but it almost feels like I am back in the Halloween event chasing beacons hoping that I can at least get the high beacon cap reward for matches.
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Post by hon_shu on Nov 15, 2017 23:52:02 GMT -5
Yes, I'm already on my way, gained 100 league points already The downside is that I can't blame the MM now any more when I just played really badly .. Yes, they did this a few months ago, and only for 1 week and a half. It was bliss as I was in Expert back then. Many that were stuck at the Wall moved up to Champion or Master during that time. There would probably be more Masters and few more Champions if they uncorked the bottleneck. I would expect there to be fewer Champions, because right now some of them at the lower end depend on having Experts in their matches to rank higher in the end game stats. For now (on Android) it seems that the matches for Expert II will comprise Experts and Masters, I literally had players at 4995 league points but consistently no Champs. So far definitely an improvement! I had a couple of good matches that went 10 minutes and ended really close on the beacon bar.
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Post by Fry on Nov 16, 2017 2:09:08 GMT -5
Last night, I played a match in which I could not survive.So, when the battle finished, I checked the red's profiles and they were the Expert league with hangars of 12/12.Considering that I'm diamond2 with a hangar of 9/9, it was completely unfair.
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Post by leavemealone on Nov 16, 2017 2:22:54 GMT -5
Well I contacted them early this morning. I am in champion league on android . I was asking them what was the deal for my long wait time . This is what they wrote to me. Funny thing is this is the fastest response I have ever received from them. Only 10 mins . Hi, Pilot! Thanks for taking the time to contact us! Having carefully analyzed the data, we are trying different things to make the matchmaking system better and more precise. Champion league players may now wait longer to find a battle. We, of course, are collecting any feedback and monitoring the overall state of system in high leagues. ''We, of course, are collecting any feedback and monitoring the overall state of system in high leagues.'' so you can twist and render the outcome to you're advantage?. Using the database analysis just how to make more money? This game has been selling service and less of play value.
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Post by leavemealone on Nov 16, 2017 8:22:59 GMT -5
Im champ league (iOS) and I am still seeing Expert League players all the time solo and when I squad. Lately the games are either your team gets steamrolled or you steamroll the other team. I miss down to the wire balanced games and they have been few and far between for me and my clan as of late. Even the games I win solo are boring. The MM beats you down 5 games in a row and the one game it gives you to "win" has such low level/Skill players on the other side they get 4 and 5 capped in a couple of minutes and its over with in 4. To me it feels the MM already knows for the most part when it creates a match who is going to win. Usually you can tell how its going to end up about 2 minutes in. everything is all cold and calculated based on your strength and weakness (a hidden profile that pix keep a track of) that use to advance you or disadvantage you in winning or losing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 8:56:31 GMT -5
Maybe the whales are facing each other now, so they buy the next op gear. Couple of weeks after the release then, they get rewarded with masters and experts. Who knows.
Wouldnt be to bad like this, tho. Better than mixed all the time.
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Post by ᕲΣΣᕲƧ on Nov 16, 2017 11:03:56 GMT -5
I had noticed a difference in the amount of time it took to find a match the last day or two. It's taking me up to 2 minutes when it was only taking 30 seconds to a minute last week. What really bothers me the most about that is that I won't be able to collect of many sources over time as I was before since I'll waste twice as much time or more waiting to get matched. It sort of seems like punishment for reaching the top.
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Post by Loganspawn on Nov 16, 2017 11:37:40 GMT -5
For myself the last two days have been 95% Champion League same as me. The few not in champion were squaded with someone who was. I hope this continues as it was crazy bad for the low levels IMO before. I could almost count on being #1 if we lost. Not allot of fun even winning when you look at their stats and realize they are lower level.
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Post by wrplayer on Nov 16, 2017 11:57:37 GMT -5
I'm a new player and my bots are really low quality. Curious why I am being matched up with players I could never hope to beat?
Seems a little crazy to me.
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Post by Poopface on Nov 16, 2017 12:02:19 GMT -5
If they are reworking their MM, it's being tested on Android, not iOS. I got to play against an all-MK2-laden guy yesterday with an average over 1M with two Shocktrain-equipped Haechi. If it weren't for him, the match would have been reasonably even.
Nothing like being matched up against someone whose league score nearly quadrupled mine.
Yes, I filed a MM-related complaint to Pixonic complete with a picture. I also got the canned rapid response of "oops, we're really sorry we haven't replied to you in quite a while. We're really busy with all the other trouble tickets we're getting lately. If your issue hasn't been resolved, go FAQ yourself."
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 16, 2017 12:05:09 GMT -5
I'm a new player and my bots are really low quality. Curious why I am being matched up with players I could never hope to beat? Seems a little crazy to me. Might should open a new thread as this is about Champs queue... But when you do, include your platform (iOS, Android, Amazon, or Facebook GameRoom) and a ss of your hangar, and we can determine what is up. Welcome to the forum!
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Post by ᕲΣΣᕲƧ on Nov 16, 2017 12:22:04 GMT -5
I'm a new player and my bots are really low quality. Curious why I am being matched up with players I could never hope to beat? Seems a little crazy to me. Basically the developer is aware of the problem but won't take measures strong enough to correct the problem. A new round of actions against them just began and that may help some. In the end though, some players are so angry at Pixonic that they are dropping leagues to terrorize new players to get them to stop playing. So no matter what Pixonic does as far as rewards not being available to players who drop leagues, until Pixonic improves their relationship with the community, there will always be people intentionally attempting to disrupt the game.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 16, 2017 12:45:33 GMT -5
I'm a new player and my bots are really low quality. Curious why I am being matched up with players I could never hope to beat? Seems a little crazy to me. Basically the developer is aware of the problem but won't take measures strong enough to correct the problem. A new round of actions against them just began and that may help some. In the end though, some players are so angry at Pixonic that they are dropping leagues to terrorize new players to get them to stop playing. So no matter what Pixonic does as far as rewards not being available to players who drop leagues, until Pixonic improves their relationship with the community, there will always be people intentionally attempting to disrupt the game. But again, some of the platforms don't even try to separate the leagues much. Amazon and FB/GR are so small that the 3rd or 4th game in after you get passed the bot players games are Champs on down to Bronze in the same match.
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Post by hon_shu on Nov 16, 2017 13:36:19 GMT -5
I really hope this stays. Haven't seen a champion since the change in Expert II matches. Number of Haechis and other P2W gear is also greatly reduced. It's like a new game so far, with fair matches and mostly vintage gear at evenly matched levels. And virtually no tankers, either. I'm really surprised how much fun the game CAN be, I had almost forgotten. Of course it comes with longer wait times, but I'm fine with that. Better than totally wasting 5 minutes on a grossly unfair match where I either get hammered by red Haechis and loose or watch blue Haechis hammer and finish last. Ideally they would make waiting time an OPTION, you can tell the game how long you'd like to wait before getting thrown in with unfair(er) match-ups. Or you get extra Silver when you let yourself get clubbed by the whales But making things CONFIGURABLE is not really a strong suit of the developers of this game unfortunately.
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Post by Awesome Possum on Nov 16, 2017 13:59:33 GMT -5
In Champion league on Amazon, I consistently get matched up against multiple diamond to silver league opponents while my team consist of recruit to low bronze league players.....
It just feel like I am fighting by myself against 6 opponents with decent hangers. I do not have dash or au bots in my hanger and even if I do, there is no way to win 1 vs 6.
Another consistent MM pattern is where I am the only champion league player on my team and opposing team gets 2 champion, couple master to expert players...
I went from 60% win rate to 20-30% once these new MM patterns started showing up right after the Halloween event ended.
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Post by Loganspawn on Nov 16, 2017 14:39:04 GMT -5
If they are reworking their MM, it's being tested on Android, not iOS. I got to play against an all-MK2-laden guy yesterday with an average over 1M with two Shocktrain-equipped Haechi. If it weren't for him, the match would have been reasonably even. Nothing like being matched up against someone whose league score nearly quadrupled mine. Yes, I filed a MM-related complaint to Pixonic complete with a picture. I also got the canned rapid response of "oops, we're really sorry we haven't replied to you in quite a while. We're really busy with all the other trouble tickets we're getting lately. If your issue hasn't been resolved, go FAQ yourself." I am on Android in Champion league and for the last two days its pretty much been all champion matches the only time i noticed non champions is when they were squaded up with a champion. Hopefully it works and makes it to IOS soon as well. I always complained to Pixonic the league system is a sham when you don't fight people in the same league.
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Post by [CK]erazor on Nov 20, 2017 6:05:19 GMT -5
Playing IOS Expert league using mostly 10/10 bots. No fancy stuff, just one Ancilot, Thunderage, Tarajin, Vaderpatton and ye good old DBGriffin. I have to mention that I got just two Orkans in total so well, my hangar is "ok" but not build for burst damage.
The last two matches I was paired with someone from Imperial and TR. Thanks god they were on my side so I won each match. These guys are running 12/12 hangar and one of the guys a 12/12 Shocktrain Bulg. No idea how the MM thinks it's a good idea letting a 3300 10/10 player play with or against such stuff.
So no, the MM hasn't changed one bit. At least not on IOS Expert league.
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Post by TravLar on Nov 20, 2017 6:13:50 GMT -5
MM is league based and the balance in the game is totally out so match ups can be totally ridiculous!
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Post by leavemealone on Nov 20, 2017 6:37:56 GMT -5
no chanmp in diamond 1 league. i notice tho for one thing though, in beacon rush is one sided. for example, when ever our team trying to take a beacon i notice red force is much stronger than ours and their easily able to steam roll our team with a breeze. everyone in our team were like 9/9 ish or so. its been like this with a lot matches. and you call this MM being worked on? Bahah what a joke.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 20, 2017 9:35:58 GMT -5
Im in gold 3 android, medium light hangar. Just played several games and I was either tossed in with some silver 1 and 1 bronze or gold 1-3. Only one game with a diamond. I have to say the all gold games were tough but very satisfying! I played more than I normally do. Much better than being steamrolled or steamrolling. Whatever pixo is doing, Its a welcome improvement.
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