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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 3:52:54 GMT -5
So I'm trying to build a decent F2P hanger and I want to get the 3rd bot and I'm not sure which bot to choose next as I save up Workshop points. So far I have in my hanger: Fujin lv8 / 3x Tulumbas lv5 Raijin lv4 / 2x Thunder lv5 Cossack lv1 (ROFLOL) / ECU lv3 I really like playing in Domination mode because it's on a steady and slow pace. At the start of the match I would run around the map like sonic capturing beacons with my Cossack and it's really fun to be honest because you're quick and nimble also when I'm in trouble I hide behind cover, then wait for my teammates to come save me because Cossack is small, fragile and easy to bash. Then when it's my turn I roll out my Raijin, if they have plasma weapons/ Fujin if they have kinetic weapons and punish them for bullying my poor little Cossack . But I'm just using Cossack for the event task for beacon capturing to get Orkan and then it's back to casual Domination battles. So I will need to replace Cossack soon and I would like to choose from Carnage, Stalker or Rhino when I have enough workshop points. so please help me decide thank you! I've looked up statistics for all 3 robots at wwrpixonic.zendesk.com and here is my summary: Rhino: Physical shield at the front, can get into CQC fast by rushing ability, Large HP pool, no Heavy weapon slots, slow, when rushing the sides are exposed. Role: Front line CQC fighter/beacon defender. Carnage: Has a built in energy shield, is faster than Rhino, has 2 heavy weapon slots when Rhino has none, able to rush enemies in CQC with rush ability, able to pull out of tricky situations, can hunt down snipers easily, Medium HP pool. Role: CQC fighter/ beacon capper Stalker: Stealth mode protects you from damage for 8 seconds, fast nimble bot, good beacon capper, Low HP pool. Role: beacon keeper. So which bot should I choose when I have enough workshop points and if you don't agree this is correct then say. thanks for your help!
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Post by elcheapo on Nov 13, 2017 4:05:52 GMT -5
Carnage if you want to kill bots . Stalker if you want to steal beacons .
What do you want to do ?
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 13, 2017 4:20:47 GMT -5
I've stated elsewhere in these pages. Its a toolbox. Use what you need for your hangar.
Rhino is great for capping and awesome against energy, but has a hard time against rockets and more agile bots. I see very few instances specially nowadays where a griffin cannot serve you better.
Carnage can bathe in splash all day and is pretty mobile. Able to bring its weapons package where needed. Zeus is more versatile nowadays with ancile in abundance and against dash bots. Using it to cap bescons is selling it short. Keep the ability charged to pounce or get out of trouble.
Stalker, is an awesome little bot, but you are against the clock to accomplish what you need before he gets fragged. The good thing is his ability works well against all damage types. And his speed can keep him out of enough trouble. With mags and some skill, you can hunt medium ancile bots.
I strongly suggest a fourth slot first and foremost though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 4:27:25 GMT -5
Carnage if you want to kill bots . Stalker if you want to steal beacons . What do you want to do ? I like killing bots more since capping is only effective at the start of matches for light bots so Carnage then. thank you man
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 4:37:56 GMT -5
ezekielcrow I think Carnage is the better choice for me because I like medium bots for their role flexibility, while Heavy bots can push their way to beacons, they cannot pull back due to slow speeds and Stalker will die in 1 pinata/orkan/aphid volley lol just like my Cossack. Thank you man and I never thought of using a heavy bot to cap, since it always gets focused fired on first for being slow unless in a pack of heavy bots and you can't expect random teammates to read your mind and adapt to the flow of battle :/. sorry something happened when I tried to quote and it kept linking what I replied into your quote...
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 13, 2017 5:14:43 GMT -5
So I'm trying to build a decent F2P hanger and I want to get the 3rd bot and I'm not sure which bot to choose next as I save up Workshop points. So which bot should I choose when I have enough workshop points and if you don't agree this is correct then say. thanks for your help! 4th slot before you do anything else. Then, none of the above. You need Magnums and Tarans, say 2 of each to slap on a Griffin. Then you can think about another WSP robot, Carnage or Rhino.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 5:36:26 GMT -5
A 4th slot would cost 1,000 gold and matches give 14 max if you get balanced teams, 3-5 gold for normal matches and 0 for losses so I'll skip thank you. Not going to spend my work money to open a slot which should cost silver credits to unlock instead of $$$. World of tanks lets you unlock garage slots for silver credits or gold so why can't War robots do the same?
Also would 4 bots make any difference when your team is getting steamrolled?
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Post by tekkamanblade on Nov 13, 2017 5:46:21 GMT -5
A 4th slot would cost 1,000 gold and matches give 14 max if you get balanced teams, 3-5 gold for normal matches and 0 for losses so I'll skip thank you. Not going to spend my work money to open a slot which should cost silver credits to unlock instead of $$$. World of tanks lets you unlock garage slots for silver credits or gold so why can't War robots do the same? Also would 4 bots make any difference when your team is getting steamrolled? You better learn to listen to these experienced guys, if you are asking for advice. Get your slot and Tarans. Wait for you War Robots 101 lecture, kid. It's coming.
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Post by TravLar on Nov 13, 2017 5:54:08 GMT -5
A 4th slot would cost 1,000 gold and matches give 14 max if you get balanced teams, 3-5 gold for normal matches and 0 for losses so I'll skip thank you. Not going to spend my work money to open a slot which should cost silver credits to unlock instead of $$$. World of tanks lets you unlock garage slots for silver credits or gold so why can't War robots do the same? Also would 4 bots make any difference when your team is getting steamrolled? Yup, it makes a big difference. a) Whatever damage you do any of your bots you can come out and do it again. b) Also, it gives you versatility; you can respond to what's going on the battle better. c) Its 33.3% more fun per battle. d) Its only 1000k, that's cheaper than Gareth, Rogatka, Galahad, Fury and Lance. e) Its also cheaper than your 5th slot - which you also want to get, you'll see after you get #4. f) Its A LOT cheaper than DIESS gear, which you're clearly not in the market for, ergo: slots #4 and #5 are gonna be essential!
You should get between 80 and 100 au a day in normal play and 150 to 200 a day during the event. So 6 weeks and you should have a 5 slot hangar. You won't regret it.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 13, 2017 5:54:52 GMT -5
ezekielcrow I think Carnage is the better choice for me because I like medium bots for their role flexibility, while Heavy bots can push their way to beacons, they cannot pull back due to slow speeds and Stalker will die in 1 pinata/orkan/aphid volley lol just like my Cossack. Thank you man and I never thought of using a heavy bot to cap, since it always gets focused fired on first for being slow unless in a pack of heavy bots and you can't expect random teammates to read your mind and adapt to the flow of battle :/. sorry something happened when I tried to quote and it kept linking what I replied into your quote... Happy to help, buddy. I do agree with the 4th slot being great advice as well. A fourth slot allows you a lot of flexibility as you slowly populate your hangar. Bots weapons and builds will evolve as you grow and react. My expereince? Always best to have that mech that you didnt need rather than need a mech you didnt have.
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Post by SuperHero on Nov 13, 2017 6:04:06 GMT -5
AND HERE IT IS!!!!
If you intend to play this game long term you NEED all 5 slots. It changes the way you play the game and allows you to rack up better scores, makes it easier to win etc.... A little tired of repeating myself all the time to the new folks who come asking for advice and then arguing with it.
Usual principles given regarding this game: 1. Dont buy any gold bots until you have 4 slots. 2. Get orkans before any gold bots. 3. Weapons before bots. 4. Slots before bots.
You can argue with all those all you want. but some of those weapons are so effective (same with the 4th and 5th slot) that you will thus earn silver and gold better. And at lower levels if you are set up properly, one player can turn the tide around in the midst of a steamroll, especially in Domination mode.
Stick to silver bots until u get ur 4th slot. A cossack with a Taran can be super deadly. so can a quad magnum patton, or a thunder/taran/magnum Golem. Or a Thunder/Taran Boa.
Getting 1-2 orkans at your level can also be quite useful. Golem, Boa, Cossack (and later the Rog) can all use it effectively.
Finally, for the love of all that is holy please get RID OF THE RAIJIN. It's a terrible bot. If you are worried about resources, it will be a waste of resources to level it up and it is actually holding you back from being a more effective player. Please tell me you won the Raijin because after your complaint about wasting gold, i truly hope you didnt spend precious resources on that.
Finally, you came asking for advice. It aint polite to then debate and argue about it when it's given. If you dont agree with it and don't wanna follow it, that's fine. But don't argue man. You asked them. It's kinda disrespectful.
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 13, 2017 6:05:09 GMT -5
A 4th slot would cost 1,000 gold and matches give 14 max if you get balanced teams, 3-5 gold for normal matches and 0 for losses so I'll skip thank you. Not going to spend my work money to open a slot which should cost silver credits to unlock instead of $$$. World of tanks lets you unlock garage slots for silver credits or gold so why can't War robots do the same? Also would 4 bots make any difference when your team is getting steamrolled? Maybe 10% of the games are "steamrolls", thanks to Pixos stupid matchmaking. In the other 90%, that 4th slot and later the 5th slot are crucial. As for the cost, you should already have the 4th slot by now. Every level gives you 50 gold, plus you get 60-70 free gold from daily tasks, plus now extra gold from the event. Stop wasting your gold (probably to speed up upgrades?). Save it for a week and you'll have the 1000 gold for that slot.
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 13, 2017 6:07:10 GMT -5
Finally, for the love of all that is holy please get RID OF THE RAIJIN. It's a terrible bot. I'd consider the Raijin somewhat viable in low leagues. I'd still prefer a Leo or Natty over a Raijin, but if he won it in an event, it doesn't hurt to slap some Thunders on it. But yeah, I also rank it as the worst heavy robot out there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 6:59:37 GMT -5
Alright, I will save up gold for the 4th slot then since you guys explained it thoroughly. I disagreed because I assumed having 4 slots wouldn't scratch a player who has Lancelot, which is really hard for me to kill even with me shooting tulumbas on his side to do splash damage. Wanted to get Carnage ASAP via the gold I get so I could shred energy shields and enemy bots.
Won Raijin through the event tasks also I've wanted both Fujin and Raijin for a really long time now and I'm proud for grinding the events when I have free time after work. I actually enjoy Raijin with 2 thunders as it chews through ancile and enemy bots plus the physical shield blocks enemy damage which my Fujin can't win against.
I'm a newbie that plays on and off, but after moving from one game from another, I decided to settle down on War Robots for now. I don't care how negative this game is, I always feel positive when I play this game despite the oddities I face. Getting killed by gold weapon/bots used to make me frustrated, but now I just shrug it off and make move onto the next match once I do as much as I can either capping or defending beacons or dealing damage.
The moderator is correct me being a newbie, I've made tons of mistakes in this game such as: upgrading weapons to lvl8 then it does pathetic damage against this bot so I sell it and buy another weapon that works against that bot. If I hadn't wasted all that gold and workshop points I would've had 3,000 gold and 20,000 workshop points saved. Upgraded Leo or used to own bots to level 9 and sell them because I couldn't utilise the full potential of that bot.
One mistake after another I learn the hard way which is now. I'm a stubborn and impatient person who doesn't listen only to regret it after. know my first step to recovering the losses would be to save up gold, I will be getting a free Orkan from event task chain up to 4/5 for the Orkan task chain. I apologise for not taking you guys' words seriously and this massive text wall, now I reflect back, I made so much mistakes, hence why I couldn't make any progress in the game. Thank you for your help guys I appreciate it knowing I'm wrong now!
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Post by SuperHero on Nov 13, 2017 7:14:54 GMT -5
More tips: Dont sell anything that you have already upgraded.
You dont have to shoot to the side of a Lance with Tulus to get dmg. As long as the Lancelot is not sporting an Ancile, all rockets will damage them even if you hit them head on as long as you are in the respective rocket's range.
Watching youtube videos of some people and how they play can also help.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 7:35:45 GMT -5
More tips: Dont sell anything that you have already upgraded. Watching youtube videos of some people and how they play can also help. I had 3 GAU Punishers at lvl 6 but I sold them because I couldn't kill leos fast enough so I sold 3 of them and bought tulumbas instead so I'll be stuck with tulumbas for awhile then. I do watch Adrian Chong's and the Center Beacon's videos.
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Post by bronzeknee on Nov 13, 2017 13:08:08 GMT -5
The Stalker and Rhino are obsolete, the Dash robots perform any role better. A Carnage with two Zeus's is a decent robot.
So if you want to buy a WSP robot, buy a Carnage
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Post by arakos on Nov 13, 2017 13:12:30 GMT -5
Carnage. Thunders or Zeus. Or embers... I know, I know
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Post by Replicant on Nov 13, 2017 13:14:51 GMT -5
The Stalker and Rhino are obsolete, the Dash robots perform any role better. A Carnage with two Zeus's is a decent robot. So if you want to buy a WSP robot, buy a Carnage If he's building a F2P hanger, the Dash bots aren't very accessible. Either the Rhino or the Stalker can fulfill beacon capping functions. Dash bots are certainly more effective in the role, but you go to war with the weapons you have.
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Post by darkknight on Nov 13, 2017 13:18:58 GMT -5
A 4th slot would cost 1,000 gold and matches give 14 max if you get balanced teams, 3-5 gold for normal matches and 0 for losses so I'll skip thank you. Not going to spend my work money to open a slot which should cost silver credits to unlock instead of $$$. World of tanks lets you unlock garage slots for silver credits or gold so why can't War robots do the same? Also would 4 bots make any difference when your team is getting steamrolled? I got my 4th slot in 3D..ofc grinders some gold from event ..it isn’t hard at all ..real challenge for newbies is 5th slot..will cost ya 5k gold also I’ll say fun a punisher griffin at range less than 400 and lvl 5+..assuming g you are in bronze leaugue they are deadly st lvl 5..those plasma grif underestimates em but by the time you unload your whole weap they are mostly dead or good as dead..but always hide during reload time coz 10 sec is too much
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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 13, 2017 13:52:40 GMT -5
More tips: Dont sell anything that you have already upgraded. I sold my 2 Okrans (1 level 10 and 1 level 9) and replaced them with level 11/12 Tarens
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 13, 2017 14:30:31 GMT -5
For what it's worth, a lot of the advice that has been given about upgrading tarans and magnums is definitely all good advice but somewhat less true than it used to be. The 3.1 upgrade buffed silver kinetic weapons so they do double damage against armor. Also, bypassing ANCILE might help you add to you dam total, but they do not help your teammates with devastating rockets take down the ancile that is protecting his 4 other teammates.
Tarans and mags before bots? Sure, unless you want to run a thunder carnage.
Mags before all else? No way. Not unless you want to run a stalker. PDB griff is a big dog in the lower tiers but pretty weak at higher tiers. Also, everyone runs pdb griffs. Why not instead buff your punishers and run a punisher griff? It will hold up much better than pdb's through the mid-tiers and you can actually hit huge scores against teams of interios players with it.
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Post by killmall420 on Nov 13, 2017 14:31:23 GMT -5
Carnage some people will disagree but I run a ancle shield on it dose not get hit buy orkens and any carnage I run into i can take down most of the time as long as I have room to keep shield up that said he is lvl 12 and thunders lvl 12 to also great to run beacons to. it with stands pushers to and these day a lot off bullet Weapons out there plasma still a 「female dog」. But it always was btw aincle is lvl 10 plan to upgrade more soon
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 13, 2017 14:32:52 GMT -5
A nice thing about carnage is it is super cheap to upgrade & get weapons for. Only 2 hardpoints and every improvement to the bot is a free ancile buff.
Here's my suggestion for some bots to consider adding to your F2P hangar:
Thunder Carnage - Fastest 2 heavy hardpoint bot in the game. Glass cannon as a knife fighter. Works best in close when going behind heavier bots to protect from missile attacks. Can dominate in midrange either as a sniper with upgrade to Zeus or as a fast heavy support bot with tempest. Tempest is cheapest component set. (Sounds like you are doing this)
Here are a couple of other nice silver bot setups that will last into at least middle tier like D1.
Punisher Griff - 3rd or 4th highest DPS weapons layout in the game over a 30-second cycle. Deadly at 350-400m and then bounces away as enemies encroach.
Thunder-Punisher Leo - 3rd highest DPS weapon layout in the game. Fastest of the slow heavy bots.
You might also try punT's on your fujin.
I agree with others about 4th slot. That increases strength of your hangar by 25%.
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Post by hon_shu on Nov 13, 2017 15:26:38 GMT -5
Get a Griffin. Then another one. Then another one. Then another one. Then another one. Save your Gold to get more slots and Orkans.
A Leo and a Carnage should work nicely too but are not quite up to Griffins in terms of fire power and flexibility.
Rhino and spider bots and Stalker are somewhat exotic, but if you're in it for the fun by all means get some.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 16:57:39 GMT -5
I bought a Taran weapon with workshop points instead for my Fujin so now it has: lv1 taran,/lv5 orkan/lv5 tulumbas. I will still save up gold for the 4th slot and Carnage when I have enough workshop points.
I like Carnage because it's the only F2P bot with 2 heavy weapon slots and it's mobile too. I did have lvl 6 punishers on my fujin but it just wasn't scratching the front of Lancelot so I sold it.
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Post by TheWWRNerdGuy on Nov 13, 2017 17:30:49 GMT -5
People underestimate the Rhino. If you use it right, you can do a lot more than a Griffin. Its max speed (when rushing) is 60kph, which is the same as the Rogatka. Its shield allows you to block out a lot of damage, while your medium weapons reload. I've lost count of the amount of times my PDB Rhino has 1v1 killed a PDB Griffin (both with full health) whilst only taking about 20k damage.
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 13, 2017 17:46:39 GMT -5
People underestimate the Rhino. If you use it right, you can do a lot more than a Griffin. Its max speed (when rushing) is 60kph, which is the same as the Rogatka. Its shield allows you to block out a lot of damage, while your medium weapons reload. I've lost count of the amount of times my PDB Rhino has 1v1 killed a PDB Griffin (both with full health) whilst only taking about 20k damage. They are also good against snipers if you have a midrange load and a good sense of rythm with your shield. Close-1-2-3-4-Open-fire-2-34-Close-2-3-4. ... doh! Rockets.
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Post by snk on Nov 14, 2017 0:33:40 GMT -5
I will probably get a Thunder Carnage, PDB Griffin, Punisher Griffins as my basic bots. Then aim for DB Griffin and Taran Ancilelot after or before you got 5th slot. Fujin is fine with Taran or Orkans.
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Post by hon_shu on Nov 14, 2017 3:45:36 GMT -5
I bought a Taran weapon with workshop points instead for my Fujin so now it has: lv1 taran,/lv5 orkan/lv5 tulumbas. I will still save up gold for the 4th slot and Carnage when I have enough workshop points. I like Carnage because it's the only F2P bot with 2 heavy weapon slots and it's mobile too. I did have lvl 6 punishers on my fujin but it just wasn't scratching the front of Lancelot so I sold it. just don't
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