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Post by bronzeknee on Nov 9, 2017 0:56:41 GMT -5
thanks for not touching Thunders and Tulus for once. good job Pix! but Tempest has been already OP. going to see more Temp Fury in Canyon :/. Temp Fury is harder to counter than Zeus (Zues) Fury, which I can push back into a hole with a Rhino chrge easily... Yeah the Tempest and Molots don't need buffs...
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Post by hyderier on Nov 9, 2017 1:34:23 GMT -5
thanks for not touching Thunders and Tulus for once. good job Pix! but Tempest has been already OP. going to see more Temp Fury in Canyon :/. Temp Fury is harder to counter than Zeus (Zues) Fury, which I can push back into a hole with a Rhino chrge easily... Yeah the Tempest and Molots don't need buffs... Oh now come on. It'll make my 800m Golem much better, and any 3-Tempest Fury can eat the bullets from my corner shooting. The true F2P meta bot at Mk2-12 Then, actually now that I think of it, the extra hangars may make game for anybody with 10 leveled bots better. Now I can finally play sniper and artillery. But since current game has no F2P top tier to reach, upgrading more bots instead of just 5 meta builds ASAP is just fine (well, emit always was fine, but these days it's even more fine). Of course more hangars will be miserable for anybody who has just 1 (long maps full of long and mid range, short maps full of Orkans), but that's what the game is all about, isn't it? Rhino spawn raids, TT Furies, Ancilot marches, Mag Gep clubbing, the new league system, RDBs wiping floor with Gala&Gary, Dashes, Shocktrain&Ember... Extra hangars are fine continuation to the history of screwing over players.
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Post by 7iquid on Nov 9, 2017 2:08:37 GMT -5
Ill miss TDM. Enjoyed the mode because I found it a lot less annoying to play. Simple brutal deathmatch but for a decent amount of time.
I find DOM and BR annoying to play when 4 Zenit Natasha's appear at spawn and the game is a slow death-by-domination from there. Some players don't know what beacons do.
I saw a lot of negative stuff about TDM but I didn't have a problem with it. Brutal effective fun. I think it may have a lot to do with being a merc - a battle mode that really doesn't have such a reliance on team activity was perfect for me.
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Post by cheap on Nov 9, 2017 2:33:38 GMT -5
shoulda made MKII upgrades available to silver bots an weapons only. i think if they did destrier an other silver bots could at least be usable and fun through lvls 7-9. for me at least maybe others pilots too.
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 9, 2017 6:36:40 GMT -5
yeah, take off 10% but gain 20% with the MK2 upgrade. so it got a buff in a way. I know in relative terms it didn't but at the end of the day it still has a strong shield. True, but Mk2 is available to anyone with game currency, just faster with RM. The max Carnage driver can MK2 his ride and enjoy the 20% bump like anyone else (tho cash gets it quicker). A Cash Bot appears theoretically possible with game currency, but with rare exception we all know they're a bridge too far apart from rm. "Just faster"? Upgrading an hangar to level 12 takes about 300 days for 5 robots. So all players that are already at level 12 can do that, if they wait 300 days. Speeding up with gold is not an option. At roughly 300 gold per day, this would take 90k gold and no "non-whale" has that much stashed, plus the 1000m silver. Couple that with the fact that we have a new group of OP bots that need to be acquired first. Any f2p player, even if he had/has 50k gold and 150k WSP stashed, will need to obtain an Haechi and 3 Shocktrains first and upgrade them to regular l12, which will surely deplete the gold and silver reserves. Essentially, it gives the whales a big advantage for half a year. By then the next OP item will be there. That's how p2w works.
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Nov 9, 2017 6:53:56 GMT -5
Okay, a LOT faster...I guess I got distracted by the token nod in our direction. I know War Robots has gone f2p/p2w and those of us who have played free for a while, and built Champion hangars are now just big fish for the whales to whomp on. I just don't want it to be so.
I have good days and bad. Yesterday was bad. 2 wins all day. So much for a forced 50% win rate, huh? Guys had 80s and 90s yesterday with avg dmg of a million plus.
Mag geps weren't so bad after all...
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Post by Domino on Nov 9, 2017 9:21:11 GMT -5
MKII was just bad timing. From how MM works, more people are needed in TT to allow similar players to challenge each other. MKII just raises the bar at such a horrible time in the game. The only reasoning behind it was to generate money. If there were too many people in the TT, then ok maybe add a new ceiling but we have heard time and time again that's not the case.
IIRC During the round table they heard there isn't much for the TT to do, and maybe this MKII nonsense was to address that but really there are much better ways to address the TT issues. The very least would be to get the lower league player base up to TT faster through more rewards and larger RM rewards/exchanges to entice people to get there.
Make it so you want people to strive for the top.. There are fun things to do there. Off the top of my head, Prize giveaways for the newest TT players, for old timers have their stats accumulated so when they play solo and squad games the Top old timers each month can win prizes and maybe custom skins that nobody has access to based on thier stats. Put a crown in their heads, anything!
I'm 15 months in, and stagnant at lvl 9/10 Hanger. Now MKII is here, there is no way i'm interested in going up. I'm leveling up Gekkos and other things I don't care for much so I have a competitive hanger in Diamond. Might consider building a 6 Pack.
Without a goal, this game just lost a lot of momentum. Yeah playing to play is one, but adding competitiveness and a goal adds so much more.
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Post by shivaswrath on Nov 13, 2017 12:40:33 GMT -5
Is this 7500 gold just to open second hangar or you pay 7500 gold and you get second hangar with 5 open slots? I looked at upgrading some of my bots to mk2 but worked out that for a 12/12 plasma griff I will need 2500 gold just to start it + silver for upgrades as per usual. So that is a no on that subject, as it would cost me around 10k in gold to upgrade my main hangar to mk2 7500 gold One hangar. it's crazy.... so you can build a long range or short range one...I tried in test server and hated it. Imagine the amount of AG required to upgrade 10 BOTS!! I focused on like 5-6 bots to level 10.
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Post by acdcfan on Nov 13, 2017 19:21:23 GMT -5
Is this 7500 gold just to open second hangar or you pay 7500 gold and you get second hangar with 5 open slots? I looked at upgrading some of my bots to mk2 but worked out that for a 12/12 plasma griff I will need 2500 gold just to start it + silver for upgrades as per usual. So that is a no on that subject, as it would cost me around 10k in gold to upgrade my main hangar to mk2 7500 gold One hangar. it's crazy.... so you can build a long range or short range one...I tried in test server and hated it. Imagine the amount of AG required to upgrade 10 BOTS!! I focused on like 5-6 bots to level 10. I did too, and contrary to popular belief you can choose a hangar at the time but not bots form different hangars.
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 13, 2017 19:58:35 GMT -5
Is this 7500 gold just to open second hangar or you pay 7500 gold and you get second hangar with 5 open slots? I looked at upgrading some of my bots to mk2 but worked out that for a 12/12 plasma griff I will need 2500 gold just to start it + silver for upgrades as per usual. So that is a no on that subject, as it would cost me around 10k in gold to upgrade my main hangar to mk2 Just $10k? Did you include the weapons?
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Post by acdcfan on Nov 13, 2017 20:25:51 GMT -5
Is this 7500 gold just to open second hangar or you pay 7500 gold and you get second hangar with 5 open slots? I looked at upgrading some of my bots to mk2 but worked out that for a 12/12 plasma griff I will need 2500 gold just to start it + silver for upgrades as per usual. So that is a no on that subject, as it would cost me around 10k in gold to upgrade my main hangar to mk2 Just $10k? Did you include the weapons? Yes I did.... 15 weapons and 5 bots. After that do you have to pay silver for upgrades as per usual of 500 is for an instant upgrade to MKII
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