kingdavid1
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Post by kingdavid1 on Dec 2, 2017 13:57:45 GMT -5
Glad u had Rhino Raijin together, they’re both a huge waste of hard earned silver and wsp I disagree. If you've never learned to pilot them don't say otherwise. I used to hate the rhino and then i gave it a second chance. It's a staple in my hangar as a db and I'll wreck just about any plasma going against me.
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kingdavid1
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Post by kingdavid1 on Dec 2, 2017 14:02:17 GMT -5
The Raijin became more useful with the 30% damage buff. As a long time player I still it don't see much use for it. With the new beacon rush mode it did gain momentum but to an extent. It still gets punished by orkans.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2017 14:24:55 GMT -5
No Hover? I would vote Hover and Inquisitor. Well, I made this post over a month ago, so it wasn't out yet ;-;
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Dec 2, 2017 15:11:06 GMT -5
Glad u had Rhino Raijin together, they’re both a huge waste of hard earned silver and wsp I disagree. If you've never learned to pilot them don't say otherwise. I used to hate the rhino and then i gave it a second chance. It's a staple in my hangar as a db and I'll wreck just about any plasma going against me. You make a valid statement if applied to a general audience, but directed at me it is presumptuous. I've piloted it plenty, and go against them plenty, so I know very well the reality is they mostly die quick.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Dec 2, 2017 15:15:53 GMT -5
Sorry, but that’s nonsense and you know it. Orkans, Tulumbas, Pins, Piñatas, and Tridents on Fury, Griffins, Rogs....all of these classic bots and weapons take them down quick. Without a doubt the Rhino has its moments with a good pilot, but personally my experience has been that 100% of my exchanges with them end in their demise, and I don’t mean that to sound arrogant. It is my honest experience and precisely the reason I don’t pilot Rhino. Never said the Rhino was easy to use. It wasn't. However - and this is not an arrogant claim either - I used them with good success in iOS Expert league clear on up to the advent of the Dash mechs. Nor was I against weak enemies - I hit E2, which is where the "Quantum Field of Anarchy" exists that pits maxed Champions against Expert and sometimes Platinum players. My hangar wasn't maxed, or close to it. It got rough, but manageable. I kinda wrote a playbook for the pre-Dash meta on using the Rhino. It worked for me then, and honestly the only thing it doesn't work against is the Dash mechs. But then, nothing really works against them... Again, not meaning to sound high and mighty. However if you look at my prior posts, you'll see I was a Rhino proponent for quite some time. Reason being I found it to be a very powerful mech with a very unique play style. That playstyle happened to suit me very well, and so I was able to exploit its potential. Cheers! While I do appreciate you have enjoyed Rhino and were a big proponent writing on the subject, I have shared my experience above that is contrary to your pov. Anyways, I do want to address one thing. You say: "the only thing it doesn't work against is the Dash mechs. But then, nothing really works against them..." Experience shows that neither of those statements is true. I've seen and experienced a Rhino take out a Dash, and there are many things that work against them.
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Post by Ron Gaul on Dec 2, 2017 16:36:46 GMT -5
Never said the Rhino was easy to use. It wasn't. However - and this is not an arrogant claim either - I used them with good success in iOS Expert league clear on up to the advent of the Dash mechs. Nor was I against weak enemies - I hit E2, which is where the "Quantum Field of Anarchy" exists that pits maxed Champions against Expert and sometimes Platinum players. My hangar wasn't maxed, or close to it. It got rough, but manageable. I kinda wrote a playbook for the pre-Dash meta on using the Rhino. It worked for me then, and honestly the only thing it doesn't work against is the Dash mechs. But then, nothing really works against them... Again, not meaning to sound high and mighty. However if you look at my prior posts, you'll see I was a Rhino proponent for quite some time. Reason being I found it to be a very powerful mech with a very unique play style. That playstyle happened to suit me very well, and so I was able to exploit its potential. Cheers! While I do appreciate you have enjoyed Rhino and were a big proponent writing on the subject, I have shared my experience above that is contrary to your pov. Anyways, I do want to address one thing. You say: "the only thing it doesn't work against is the Dash mechs. But then, nothing really works against them..." Experience shows that neither of those statements is true. I've seen and experienced a Rhino take out a Dash, and there are many things that work against them. Have you used the Haechi? My own experience using them on the TS - where they were not nearly as OP as they are on the Last Stand - is that nothing will beat a good Haechi pilot who knows what he's doing. Reason for that statement? Nothing I encountered could take me down when I was using a Haechi. It took three mechs and sometimes more to bring a single Orkan Haechi down. Pilot skill being equal, the Haechi is sufficiently superior to everything else so as to mean the Haechi will win every time. Again, IF the pilots are equal. For instance, I saw someone post a video where they used a plasma Hover to take down a Haechi. This was set forth as evidence that the Haechi is not all that tough to deal with. However what the user failed to account for was the fact that they were in a wide-open field and the Haechi was caught in a crossfire between the videographer and another player running trebs, and the Haechi had Orkans equipped. Crossfire and wide-open battlefield, against a Hover with cover and a plasma sniper. That Haechi was never going to win. However he never should have been out in the open to begin with. Part of winning is setting the stage so that you can engage the enemy on YOUR terms. Not theirs. This player did not do so, nor did he retreat from an unwinnable fight. What I'm driving at (in an admittedly roundabout manner) is this: yes, the Haechi isn't invincible. Yes, it CAN be killed by other mechs, under certain circumstances. However that is the exception and not the norm; exceptions do not necessarily disprove the rule, and they do not do so in this case. In the majority of games, the Haechi is noticeably superior to everything else out there.
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Dec 2, 2017 20:07:23 GMT -5
No Hover? I would vote Hover and Inquisitor. Well, I made this post over a month ago, so it wasn't out yet ;-; Oh I don't realize that ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) . Someone still comment in here.
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Post by rollinfknpower on Dec 2, 2017 20:28:23 GMT -5
Op, You have lance under Griffin. Wow, lance in my opinion is the next best bot to the haechi and better than bulgasari. In certain situations it even outperforms haechi. Nothing can hold ground better than lance, or spearhead an assault. Haechis support lance in these instances. Lance still has a huge place on the battlefield. Griffin does too but they are becoming more of a support bot. Griffin shines as the jack of all trades but it is master of none. More so in the new meta. As to your question, biggest disappointment of a bot for me would have to be fujin. Almost a good bot but it's weaknesses are just too much. If it went from sentry mode to movement mode smoothly and quickly it would be a lot better. But as it is you put up shield then you're stuck there cause it takes a second or so to be able to move once you lower it. Also it's so low to the ground you can't shoot over anything unless in sentry mode. Last thing. Way! Too spongy to plasma... or anything if shield isn't up.
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kingdavid1
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Post by kingdavid1 on Dec 2, 2017 20:43:35 GMT -5
I disagree. If you've never learned to pilot them don't say otherwise. I used to hate the rhino and then i gave it a second chance. It's a staple in my hangar as a db and I'll wreck just about any plasma going against me. You make a valid statement if applied to a general audience, but directed at me it is presumptuous. I've piloted it plenty, and go against them plenty, so I know very well the reality is they mostly die quick. There's only one way to settle this... a batttle till the death!. lol. Yeah I guess it's just certain players experience and league. Running around diamond/master I have had good luck with it.
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Post by rollinfknpower on Dec 2, 2017 20:44:47 GMT -5
Back read a bit and I need to respond to Ron Gaul. While you are correct that haechi is indeed the premier knife fighter, it is by no means the best bot period. If you look at the different maps, half are short maps suited to the haechi. The other half are suited to long range bots and your haechi while still potent is not the most feared thing on the battlefield. Take away shocktrains and that is compounded even further. On Springfield I'm not looking around for dash bots. I'm looking to see where that treb is. Same with yama. Canyon? Where's the Zeus, tempest, Trebs? Dashers are just another bot on those maps. Dead city? Yeah I'm very concerned with dash bots. I think the dash bot thing is a bit overblown
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 17:02:52 GMT -5
I don't know why most everyone hates that Haechi - When I made this poll, I was saying which robot is your leat favorite, not which one you hate seeing in battles. Basically, I was asking, "Which robot do you guys hate due to its low health or terrible design or not enough weapons or slow speed." Not, "Which robot do you hate seeing in battle equipped with 3 okrans or 3 shocktrains?" This poll was basically meant to show which underpowered robot Pix may need to take a look at - not just robots you guys hate to see in battle. Maybe I should have cleared that up ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Also Haechi got a nerf so...
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Post by dash4win on Dec 5, 2017 4:27:29 GMT -5
Fury. In about 15,000 games I can remember seeing a Fury capture a beacon exactly once. i bet it was me with my triple ancile
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