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Post by [CK]erazor on Oct 12, 2017 6:21:37 GMT -5
Hey there,
I'm playing on Ipad 3 and Iphone 5S and on both devices War Robots performed from "ok" in intense battle situations to "good", yielding > 30FPS. Now, after the latest patch, the game started to stutter/get laggy on the 5S which has even in 2017 a good performance* and is basically unplayable on the Ipad. Anyone else got performance issues after the latest patch? How is this even possible as the graphics are the same?
I was searching the forum with keywords "ios performance" or "ios older device" but could not find any helpful thread. Got any advice for me?
*To get a feeling how fast the old Iphone still is, some results from 1280x720 offscreen Ice Storm Unlimited Graphics Score. The 2013 Iphone scored 17800 and the 2015 Galaxy S6 scored 21000 points, so this isn't much of a difference and I guess a lot of people still use the S6 for mobile gaming. Even the Galaxy S8 just scores 36000 points in the same benchmark, doubling the performance of the 2013 Iphone so I'd say the old phone still has acceptable performance.
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Post by hi5 on Oct 12, 2017 6:38:46 GMT -5
I’ve had stutter/crashing on my iPhone 6 the last few months but only occasionally - maybe a couple time a week. I’ve found that closing out other open apps and removing the case to decrease trapped heat helps. But it’s possible it could be worse on older devices.
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Post by [CK]erazor on Oct 12, 2017 6:59:53 GMT -5
I’ve had stutter/crashing on my iPhone 6 the last few months but only occasionally - maybe a couple time a week. I’ve found that closing out other open apps and removing the case to decrease trapped heat helps. But it’s possible it could be worse on older devices. I don't use any case and I'm 100% positive that this is no thermal throttling issue as it just started to occur with the latest patch. Guess I'll have to buy a new device if I want to continue playing cause Pix is to busy counting money instead of optimizing their game;) Closing apps I could and will try. Thank you.
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Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Oct 12, 2017 11:21:03 GMT -5
Hey there, I'm playing on Ipad 3 and Iphone 5S and on both devices War Robots performed from "ok" in intense battle situations to "good", yielding > 30FPS. Now, after the latest patch, the game started to stutter/get laggy on the 5S which has even in 2017 a good performance* and is basically unplayable on the Ipad. Anyone else got performance issues after the latest patch? How is this even possible as the graphics are the same? I was searching the forum with keywords "ios performance" or "ios older device" but could not find any helpful thread. Got any advice for me? *To get a feeling how fast the old Iphone still is, some results from 1280x720 offscreen Ice Storm Unlimited Graphics Score. The 2013 Iphone scored 17800 and the 2015 Galaxy S6 scored 21000 points, so this isn't much of a difference and I guess a lot of people still use the S6 for mobile gaming. Even the Galaxy S8 just scores 36000 points in the same benchmark, doubling the performance of the 2013 Iphone so I'd say the old phone still has acceptable performance. YES! I have made several posts about this. I'm using an iPhone 5. The game ALWAYS worked perfectly fine before and now it's almost unplayable on this phone. In general, no matter the phone, a ton of people have been getting crashes with the last update. Aside from these crashes though, the lag is absolutely horrible on this phone now. Sometimes, I don't even get the red "x'" or "!" but I will be walking along and then all of a sudden turned into another direction or while still holding forward, stop walking altogether. Same thing with firing. I'll be holding down the button and then all of a sudden stop shooting. I look to see if it's reloading and it's only halfway through the salvo. It's weird because the first few matches I play every day seem fine and then 3-5 games in and it starts. This makes me think it IS a thermal issue but also has something to do with the update, as like you said. It didn't start until then. Ive also played on my brothers iphone 6+ and his iPad and it's MUCH better but still getting some unusual lag I never did before. I know it's not my wifi because it happens whether I have wifi on OR off and when I run a Speedtest, everything is where it should be. I just messaged Pix about it again the other night. I'm waiting to hear something. If it's relevant, I'll post it.
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Post by DBCooper on Oct 12, 2017 11:51:34 GMT -5
The current rev of the game still seems to run fine on my ipad air2, other than the occasional crash to home screen. But the frequency of those hasnt changed since I started playing back in July.
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Post by [CK]erazor on Oct 12, 2017 14:35:37 GMT -5
Hey there, I'm playing on Ipad 3 and Iphone 5S and on both devices War Robots performed from "ok" in intense battle situations to "good", yielding > 30FPS. Now, after the latest patch, the game started to stutter/get laggy on the 5S which has even in 2017 a good performance* and is basically unplayable on the Ipad. Anyone else got performance issues after the latest patch? How is this even possible as the graphics are the same? I was searching the forum with keywords "ios performance" or "ios older device" but could not find any helpful thread. Got any advice for me? *To get a feeling how fast the old Iphone still is, some results from 1280x720 offscreen Ice Storm Unlimited Graphics Score. The 2013 Iphone scored 17800 and the 2015 Galaxy S6 scored 21000 points, so this isn't much of a difference and I guess a lot of people still use the S6 for mobile gaming. Even the Galaxy S8 just scores 36000 points in the same benchmark, doubling the performance of the 2013 Iphone so I'd say the old phone still has acceptable performance. YES! I have made several posts about this. I'm using an iPhone 5. The game ALWAYS worked perfectly fine before and now it's almost unplayable on this phone. In general, no matter the phone, a ton of people have been getting crashes with the last update. Aside from these crashes though, the lag is absolutely horrible on this phone now. Sometimes, I don't even get the red "x'" or "!" but I will be walking along and then all of a sudden turned into another direction or while still holding forward, stop walking altogether. Same thing with firing. I'll be holding down the button and then all of a sudden stop shooting. I look to see if it's reloading and it's only halfway through the salvo. It's weird because the first few matches I play every day seem fine and then 3-5 games in and it starts. This makes me think it IS a thermal issue but also has something to do with the update, as like you said. It didn't start until then. Ive also played on my brothers iphone 6+ and his iPad and it's MUCH better but still getting some unusual lag I never did before. I know it's not my wifi because it happens whether I have wifi on OR off and when I run a Speedtest, everything is where it should be. I just messaged Pix about it again the other night. I'm waiting to hear something. If it's relevant, I'll post it. Thanks, this reassured me that it's not a fault on my end. I'm on a 100/40 line and have less than 10ms ping in my country and while on the go, I have about 15 to 20ms ping with 4G so that should not cause any lags as all other online gaming here is working just fine. So if the visuals have not been upgraded and they haven't as the game looks the same as before the last patch, what the heck did Pix do to their code? As I said, even the Iphone 5S is still to be considered a fast device, as it provides 50% performance of the high end Galaxy S8 so it should be fast enough for War Robots. This now adds in to all other lags I have in the game. The famous mid-air freeze of a Griffin. The famous every-bot-is-a-dash-bot now as other bots visually seem to be dashing aka freezing for a short time and then move 30 meters in one millisecond. Crap, I really can't play it that way and buying a new device just for one game seems a bit exaggerated. No idea what I should do now. Guess I'll wait till 3.3. and hope that performance will improve. I doubt that this is a thermal issue as I may experience this odd behaviour 1st or 5th match, no matter what.
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Post by [CK]erazor on Oct 12, 2017 14:39:48 GMT -5
The current rev of the game still seems to run fine on my ipad air2, other than the occasional crash to home screen. But the frequency of those hasnt changed since I started playing back in July. A8X is still a very fast SOC and I guess that no other game has any issues on your iPad. Basically the A8X features the cpu performance of a 10yo notebook from the Intel Core Duo (Yonah) age. Combined with the powerful gpu it's somewhere between PS2 and PS3 regarding gaming performance. It's a shame War Robots is that badly optimized.
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Post by [CK]erazor on Nov 1, 2017 4:46:51 GMT -5
Instead of creating another thread on the same topic, let me revive this one. I recently had a look at the Unreal 3 Engine from Epic Games, using the "Citadel" demo and this demo is running super smooth and visually impressive at a supposed 60 FPS even on my old Ipad. How come? What engine is War Robots using and why do even newer devices have slow downs at times? The code for multi player stuff mostly runs server-sided, so that can't be the issue. If you're not familiar with Citadel, this is how it looks like:
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Post by NerFB on Nov 1, 2017 5:22:12 GMT -5
Most of the current lag is server side, not Device or WiFi / Broadband. The app is quite small, considering the game, most of the performance is on Pixo's side. The main impact of upgrading from an iPad 3 is heat reduction, as with other posts, mine used to get hot. If you want an excuse to upgrade, go for it
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