New MM details?

See the recent threads, those are the best guesstimates we have. Even after its released, Pixo will keep the intricate details hush hush to keep us guessing.

I saw someone mention on Discord that the release has been delayed by one day. Not Schnitzel, sorry. It was Mechronis, I believe.

Seems like the new MM is up and running to me; anyone else?

Android doesn't seem to be changed in any major way to me, though the types of opponents do seem a little different tonight... more diverse. Maybe the rumors of an impending update have more/different people playing?

Looks like IOS is getting the MM tweaks Android has suffered from since Halloween update.

I have noticed since yesterday, on Android, that I can now put a lvl 11 weapon on a medium bot and not see max hangers every match. Been a while since I could say that...

New MM. System is crap!, I am using an iPad and now I cannot use my lo lvl geps because every battle I enter is gold. I hav msgd Pixonic and get no help; they tell me more battles have to be played before the system settles down and adjusts to me but how is that possible if I cannot run anything I previously ran. I once had the choice of running in bronze, silver and gold but now that choice has been taken away.

It's Zenit butches. With 0.5 sec it will bombard even faster than ever.

New MM definitely up and on with droid users. If you weren't there before 2.5 updated, you aren't going to make it now. Farming with BB guns is dead, the clubbing issue has been addressed by making everyone play Gold so now its not the farmers who are mismatched, it's everyone not running triple tridents or as many treb's as fit. There is almost no game left under 1000m.

Just to prove my point I put zenits and noricums on a natasha and sat on my spawn until I was the last blue left. I just stood there, turn a little left, a little right and hold the button... saw spawn after spawn on my side drop and leave... but I stayed put. Camped out as could be I became the least engaged player on purpose.

Final score: Three kills, fifth place in damage, zero repair because zero hits. Lost the match, most boring proof ever.

iOS or Android? I got totally destroyed on Android, first with a 6/7ish heavy hangar, later with a 2/7 medium hangar. Medium normalized somewhat, except when I got into squad games - we all ran hangars in the 4/7 range and faced 10/10 to 12/12 heavies every single match. Curious that squad and solo games should be so much different.

I don't think leaving a game early works. A new guy would just pop in and take your place you still wouldn't have a loss.

The new MM is definitely running on Android. I took a hangar of 4 store-level Vityaz with nothing upgraded and was matched against hangers like this:

I got back into the game after a few weeks of not playing, and I can say that I had a pretty bad start with the new MM. At first, I was unaware of the update and tried running a 4/8 medium hangar and got matched against players that would have been in trash gold in the old system, albeit poor ones, and I was still able to win. When I switched to my normal hangar, I was somehow facing weaker opponents and scored top damage 6 times in a row- and counting. Hopefully my MM rating will stabilize in a few more games, but I can understand why so many people initially disliked the new system.

I watched Adrian Chong's "old school hangar" live stream from a few days ago with the new matchmaking. Even with his full 12/12 hangar, and I assume better damage and win rate than me, he was fielding lower opponents than me, guys with 3-4 bot hangars and as low as 6/7 setups sometimes. Now I run an 8-9/9-11 hangar and get a number of 12/12s each match, even with a 44% win rate. This screwup in MM reminded me of something I used to call the "Gareth Principle." I could run a hangar of 4/9 mediums with a 3/5 Gareth and face up to 10/10s or 12/12s, just because of that 3/5 Gareth. But then I could switch my whole hangar to low gold 8/9 bots, and an 8/9 Gareth and get easier matches than with my 3/5 Gareth and 4/9 mediums. Something about the MM formula that overreacts to prevent certain bots getting in at certain levels, but then underreacts at higher levels. Only becomes a really big deal with the new MM change where you are essentially stuck at a tier and now can't easily leave, even when MM lets you done and goes crazy for a while.

I have seen this issue come up a number of times in the old MM system, and this sort of calculations and balancings issue means that Pixonic's MM system breaks down pretty easy when it tries to penalize certain bots or keep them from certain tier.