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Post by axeofblood on Sept 11, 2017 20:57:25 GMT -5
I thought I would seek expert opinion on which upgrade road to take. I have my 5th slot now. The majority of my mechs and weapons are 8-10 I still do not have a second 10 pair of tarans but as im considering my upgrade path I find my 5 slot is weakest out of my lineup.
My question is I have 3200 gold I could fill that 5th slot with a plasmahad now or buy my second ancelot?
I am also still using a fury/trident but I want to park it for the second lance. I am playing in expert two diamond league often I am still in the top in dmg or at least middle of the pack most games. I am not into clans yet so capping has not been my favorite role as it is dependent on your team who often are a let down. Heavy bots let you muscle in far better than mediums and both of my rdb and db griffs offer me that quick reaction to cross maps anyway. Thus I never focused much on them. I am wandering why bother with a gala when I know I will not likely use it often enough but I like to have options. All of you know lost time on bad upgrade choices is not something I can get back once it is done.
Thus some help making the choice to blow a months worth of gold or not would be helpful. The simple fact my rdb has killed so many shield bots with only the ancilot being the exception to the rule. My rdb is usually my first bot I will cap the closest point unless a juicy garath or stalker runs across my view then its like stepping on a roach. Only takes me two salvos to melt galahads and some patience as they run at me. I often feel bad for the shield bots assaulting my rdb with a broken shield and just not sure becoming one is the best option at this stage of the game. I was having trouble with carnages and fujin but I put some research into a rajin and that worked better than using a carnage especially with the buff to siege and the thunde. I pretty much have a counter to just about all even the new bots except for the butch but you just do not see enough of them to dedicate more than a trident/fury to one. If seeing my hanger really helps ill put up a pic. My accounts 9 months ild and I avg about 400 kills a week sometimes more. So yes I play a little more than the average player does. Not that i am good just not always bad.
I thank you for the input in advance.
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Post by WilsonK on Sept 11, 2017 21:27:23 GMT -5
Galahad is an outstanding knife fighter itself, especially the plasma build. But considering with all the dashes around with Orkans... You're gonna get bombarded real quick...
I personally will go with a Lance, it will last down the whole road if you're climbing leagues to play with higher tiers.
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Post by Domino on Sept 11, 2017 21:32:01 GMT -5
Don't have the whole picture but 2xOrkans. Then Lance. Stay away from Galahad he's taking the worse beating of its life. Gareth too.
At Expert level in Android there are alot of rockets and now more bullets.. Dash bot was the.nail in the coffin. Galahad looks like molasses in the artic compared to.Dash and.Rog.
Written via smartphone
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Post by moody on Sept 11, 2017 22:16:49 GMT -5
Lance
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Post by WilsonK on Sept 11, 2017 22:24:09 GMT -5
Don't have the whole picture but 2xOrkans. Then Lance. Stay away from Galahad he's taking the worse beating of its life. Gareth too. At Expert level in Android there are alot of rockets and now more bullets.. Dash bot was the.nail in the coffin. Galahad looks like molasses in the artic compared to.Dash and.Rog. Written via smartphone Hahaha the GA-brothers are taking a hell of a beating from rockets for sure. Only big brother Lance can still withstand them with an Ancile to a certain extent!  |
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Post by axeofblood on Sept 12, 2017 0:04:51 GMT -5
I admit I see a shielded bot and im in my rdb db or trifury you may as well ring the lunch bell My 10rdb lights them up like a roman candle on open ground. If they get close to me in the fury I am dead but that is what a team comes into play. Well you convinced me a second lance it is.
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Post by noobcake on Sept 12, 2017 0:12:57 GMT -5
Galahad is not very good in the current meta. The Lancelot is excellent.
The top bots are Lancelot and haechi followed closely by bulgasari and Griffin. You could fill the whole hangar with any combination of those bots and do very well. Next up, is the niche bots that can occupy up to one slot without weakening the hangar. These are the Rogatka, carnage, Rhino, and kumiho. Finally, we have the bots that are playable but not strong enough to deserve a slot in higher leagues. These include the doc, butch, fury, fujin, and stalker. Some might place the Galahad here but I don't think it deserves a hangar slot at all right now.
Just keep in mind that the meta changes frequently and you shouldn't try to plan too far ahead. Pixonic will read your mind and nerf whatever you are leveling up into oblivion (and then bring it back 7 months later).
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Sept 12, 2017 0:41:02 GMT -5
I admit I see a shielded bot and im in my rdb db or trifury you may as well ring the lunch bell My 10rdb lights them up like a roman candle on open ground. If they get close to me in the fury I am dead but that is what a team comes into play. Well you convinced me a second lance it is. I have been running alright up top with my Galahad. But, I have been itching to put something new & useful in my hangar with 9500 Au stockpiled. Since Pix has seen fit not to allow us to purchase a K-bot in any currency. I play poker on the side - I dont call it gambling. The BM is gambling, like roulette, all pure luck (or less, restocking) - I wont support it. With that said, I am going to purchase my 2nd Lancelot to improve my hangar and run the duo: - Ancilot - Thunder / Orkan * I dont purchase a bot until I have the weapons and they are upgraded. In one day I will have L12 Taran (Plasmahad) & L11 Ancile & Taran (what I am waiting on now.) Additional reason to wait till last minute, I just got another Au offer from Pix 10 mins ago - 660 Au for $1.99. So I will upgrade my L10 Taran L11 for $2 bucks - for me that is worth the 3 days of upgrade time. My point is, if you dont have the weapons & leveled, why by the bot. Also, why buy any item if you can not immediately start upgrading. I purchasdd my 2nd Zeus the same way 50-60% off. You can use weapons on many bots - doesn't work the other way around. SoCal |
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Post by axeofblood on Sept 12, 2017 3:21:09 GMT -5
I admit I see a shielded bot and im in my rdb db or trifury you may as well ring the lunch bell My 10rdb lights them up like a roman candle on open ground. If they get close to me in the fury I am dead but that is what a team comes into play. Well you convinced me a second lance it is. I have been running alright up top with my Galahad. But, I have been itching to put something new & useful in my hangar with 9500 Au stockpiled. Since Pix has seen fit not to allow us to purchase a K-bot in any currency. I play poker on the side - I dont call it gambling. The BM is gambling, like roulette, all pure luck (or less, restocking) - I wont support it. With that said, I am going to purchase my 2nd Lancelot to improve my hangar and run the duo: - Ancilot - Thunder / Orkan * I dont purchase a bot until I have the weapons and they are upgraded. In one day I will have L12 Taran (Plasmahad) & L11 Ancile & Taran (what I am waiting on now.) Additional reason to wait till last minute, I just got another Au offer from Pix 10 mins ago - 660 Au for $1.99. So I will upgrade my L10 Taran L11 for $2 bucks - for me that is worth the 3 days of upgrade time. My point is, if you dont have the weapons & leveled, why by the bot. Also, why buy any item if you can not immediately start upgrading. I purchasdd my 2nd Zeus the same way 50-60% off. You can use weapons on many bots - doesn't work the other way around. SoCal I took the offers myself the max I paid thus far has been 20 bucks over and 8 month period. My first lance and fury I won during the anniversary event. I got two zeus also but I dont use them. I tried using them with my fury and an ancile I got from the last event. The tridents just let me live longer. No trail back to me with a sign saying hey im here shoot me like the zeus does for you. People see the zeuses on a furycarn they alll go nuts trying to kill you. I wouldn't mind but as I have no clan nobody is going to care for what really to me is an annoying spam bot. Hell people with geckos are just as annoying and I go way out of my way to kill them when I see them on the field. My point is as I finish up the gold for the lance two i will have the weapons ready for it. I already have 1 anclot with ten so I know the worth but I feel like if you doubled up you become predictable and therefore easier to guess as to the best counter. If it was not solo play I would say then it would not matter. Grabbing beacons compensates for dmg only if you win imo. Perhaps the scourge will change that now though. I havent crossed any competent person who had them on ancilot yet. So far its bull in a china shop types of which you run away and focus down if your weaker or I drop my rajin on them if its at a beacon which usually is the case. I just do not like having 4 strong bots then a whimpy one for last. I prefer consistent performance across each bot with only the loadout decision deciding my fate not the bots liabilities alone. |
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Sept 12, 2017 3:28:57 GMT -5
Lancelot, galahad is very vulnerable to rocket weapons like tulumbas and orkan.
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Sept 12, 2017 12:01:10 GMT -5
Lance
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Post by fatdogmagic on Sept 12, 2017 12:13:48 GMT -5
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Post by Kanshou on Sept 12, 2017 12:50:04 GMT -5
Even Carnages can kill Galahads. Go with a Lance.
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Post by Koalabear on Sept 12, 2017 12:57:18 GMT -5
Lancelot. I loved the Galahad but agree with everyone else. Rockets have really put the hurt on the Galahad. Thank goodness I didn't pay gold for mine!
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Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Sept 12, 2017 13:16:20 GMT -5
Yeh dude. What everyone else is saying. Go with the Lance. I don't have either, but I can tell you that I don't have to keep my thumb on the fire button long when running my DB or RDB, to kill a Galahad. I have no fear when I see one. I will even usually take out a Plasmahad head to head with my Carnage if I run right up to it. My Carnage will be practically toast by the end but I will win that fight 9 times out of 10 due to the kinetic weapon vs. shield buff.
Lance on the other hand, I'm much more cautious around with all my bots, especially an Ancilot. Though I can usually take out a regular Lance with my DB fairly easily without dying.
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Post by Cyklown on Sept 12, 2017 14:45:50 GMT -5
Galahads just don't cut it these days. They were the best plasma boats in their day, but they die fast and lack utility.
I just cut one and am leveling up an Ancelot to replace the second, personally.
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Post by moody on Sept 12, 2017 17:17:40 GMT -5
Lancelot. I loved the Galahad but agree with everyone else. Rockets have really put the hurt on the Galahad. Thank goodness I didn't pay gold for mine! I paid gold for my first one. Earned enough gold to get my second 3 weeks later. Had a very hard time deciding if I should buy a 3rd (had a thread back in December about it) and actually had buyers regret about the Lancelot that I ended up getting. That lancelot has been in virtually every game i have played this year. I now have three galahads that don't get runs (1 at 9, 1 at 8 and 1 that I won at 1). I am really on the fence about buying a second lance. |
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Post by noobcake on Sept 12, 2017 18:05:02 GMT -5
Lancelot. I loved the Galahad but agree with everyone else. Rockets have really put the hurt on the Galahad. Thank goodness I didn't pay gold for mine! I paid gold for my first one. Earned enough gold to get my second 3 weeks later. Had a very hard time deciding if I should buy a 3rd (had a thread back in December about it) and actually had buyers regret about the Lancelot that I ended up getting. That lancelot has been in virtually every game i have played this year. I now have three galahads that don't get runs (1 at 9, 1 at 8 and 1 that I won at 1). I am really on the fence about buying a second lance. I understand the dilemma completely. Hangars run great with only one and the expense is no joke. There is also the Korean bot release sometime in the next several months. |
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Post by moody on Sept 12, 2017 19:31:20 GMT -5
I paid gold for my first one. Earned enough gold to get my second 3 weeks later. Had a very hard time deciding if I should buy a 3rd (had a thread back in December about it) and actually had buyers regret about the Lancelot that I ended up getting. That lancelot has been in virtually every game i have played this year. I now have three galahads that don't get runs (1 at 9, 1 at 8 and 1 that I won at 1). I am really on the fence about buying a second lance. I understand the dilemma completely. Hangars run great with only one and the expense is no joke. There is also the Korean bot release sometime in the next several months. The korea bots are the only thing keeping me from blowing the gold on it. I have 12000au but I can't help thinking that wouldn't even get me two bots if they are released for gold. (I do have all the appropriate weapons ready though. I can do three and three orkans if I got two K bots and still manage a plasma lance an rdb and a thunder carnage.) |
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on Sept 12, 2017 19:42:11 GMT -5
Lance. Either Tarancilot or Thunder Orkan
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Post by moody on Sept 12, 2017 20:27:08 GMT -5
Lance. Either Tarancilot or Thunder Orkan Ork ancilot is absolutely fine as well. Also thunder punisher and tempest molot. |
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Post by moflete on Sept 13, 2017 14:51:20 GMT -5
The top bots are Lancelot and haechi followed closely by bulgasari and Griffin. Bulgasari seems too exposed in RDBLand.... |
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Post by Domino on Sept 13, 2017 14:53:36 GMT -5
The top bots are Lancelot and haechi followed closely by bulgasari and Griffin. Bulgasari seems too exposed in RDBLand.... But at least they can dash out of the way of most of them |
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Post by moflete on Sept 13, 2017 15:07:25 GMT -5
Bulgasari seems too exposed in RDBLand.... But at least they can dash out of the way of most of them Yes I realize that. Just I don't know if I would put Bulgasari so atop in the list... |
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Post by Domino on Sept 13, 2017 15:11:11 GMT -5
But at least they can dash out of the way of most of them Yes I realize that. Just I don't know if I would put Bulgasari so atop in the list... The fact that 3 Mediums points are better than 2 medium and 2 lights (from a sheer dmg standpoint, prove me wrong). It's better than a griffin. 1) More HP 2) Has a shield 3) Double special abilities 4) As mentioned above, more firepower |
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Post by Humunculus on Sept 13, 2017 15:55:07 GMT -5
I am about to pull my Gally. Too many rockets and bullets. I try to avoid them and pick my target but that can be hard, and I dont wanna waste that slot with a mech that can only attack certain bots. I just grabbed my 2nd Rog and some more Orks to go on it. For my play style, sprinting around and Orking the slower bots to death is where its at. Half the cost as a Lance, and twice as much fun. Screw climbing the league ladder ( I play in Expert 2) run around and have fun!
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Post by ༒ƜƦƛƖƬӇ༒ on Sept 13, 2017 16:25:25 GMT -5
Lance... I have 4 Galahads... I use typically only 1 at a time.. Lancelot's I have 1 of and constantly wish I had a second.. Tho I ain't spending RM..
My Thunder/Taran Lance -ALWAYS- makes a difference in the game.. it takes down a Griff rather quickly.. as well as goes head 2 head with a Leo and wins about every time..
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Post by moody on Sept 13, 2017 16:59:32 GMT -5
Yes I realize that. Just I don't know if I would put Bulgasari so atop in the list... The fact that 3 Mediums points are better than 2 medium and 2 lights (from a sheer dmg standpoint, prove me wrong). It's better than a griffin. 1) More HP 2) Has a shield 3) Double special abilities 4) As mentioned above, more firepower 3 medium is actually very slightly worse than 2 medium and 2 light - but not by very much. Everything else you have mentioned is accurate and I would much prefer a bulgasari than a griffin. |
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Post by noobcake on Sept 13, 2017 18:49:33 GMT -5
The fact that 3 Mediums points are better than 2 medium and 2 lights (from a sheer dmg standpoint, prove me wrong). It's better than a griffin. 1) More HP 2) Has a shield 3) Double special abilities 4) As mentioned above, more firepower 3 medium is actually very slightly worse than 2 medium and 2 light - but not by very much. Everything else you have mentioned is accurate and I would much prefer a bulgasari than a griffin. Broadly speaking, you are correct that 2 mediums and 2 lights will pull ahead slightly in the long run. The difference is almost negligible and the truth is much more nuanced. I have abbreviated 3 mediums to 3M and 2 mediums 2 lights to 2M+2L for convenience. Molots and punishers are always slightly better in the 2M+2L format but the other weapons are not so simple. Three tarans, for example, does better than a PDB for a full 11 seconds. Similarly, 3 Tulus stays ahead of the RDB for 12 seconds. The DB vs tri-Orkan is the most complex as it has multiple inflection points. The DB has better burst for the first three seconds before the pinatas run out. After that, Tri-Orkan does more damage for the next 16 seconds. Realistically, most encounters are very short giving an advantage to the tri Taran and Tulu. The DB vs tri-orkan is probably about even if we don't take the bot into account. |
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Post by moody on Sept 13, 2017 20:04:23 GMT -5
3 medium is actually very slightly worse than 2 medium and 2 light - but not by very much. Everything else you have mentioned is accurate and I would much prefer a bulgasari than a griffin. Broadly speaking, you are correct that 2 mediums and 2 lights will pull ahead slightly in the long run. The difference is almost negligible and the truth is much more nuanced. I have abbreviated 3 mediums to 3M and 2 mediums 2 lights to 2M+2L for convenience. Molots and punishers are always slightly better in the 2M+2L format but the other weapons are not so simple. Three tarans, for example, does better than a PDB for a full 11 seconds. Similarly, 3 Tulus stays ahead of the RDB for 12 seconds. The DB vs tri-Orkan is the most complex as it has multiple inflection points. The DB has better burst for the first three seconds before the pinatas run out. After that, Tri-Orkan does more damage for the next 16 seconds. Realistically, most encounters are very short giving an advantage to the tri Taran and Tulu. The DB vs tri-orkan is probably about even if we don't take the bot into account. Thanks for that. I had not gone into the detail but i appreciate it and agree with it. |
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