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Post by Mechronis on Jan 11, 2017 11:11:35 GMT -5
No, we aren't putting heavy weapons in light slots.
What is happening is that six variants of the Trebuchet will soon make it to the test server to be used in light and medium slots, and only those slots. Think of them like ECUs.
Share your thoughts!
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Post by pj on Jan 11, 2017 11:12:53 GMT -5
I wondered why I saw a Griffin with 4 Trebs in the video Pix released
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Post by EatStinkyTofu on Jan 11, 2017 11:44:03 GMT -5
I'm going to guess that the multi-color trebs on the announcement are just generic "filler," to limit expectations for these test weapons. Don't want to show off all these cool weapons to everybody, and then say, oh well, we're dumping all of them. I would be certainly disappointed if it truly was testing 6 variations of the same weapon. We'll know soon enough.
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Jan 11, 2017 12:00:46 GMT -5
There are no LoS (Line of Sight or super-long range) medium weapons, it's a big gap in the spread of weapon types and sizes. A Fujin with Tulus makes a decent mid-ranger, and with Orkans makes a helluva knife fighter (close range), but there's no way to make it a LoS sniper.
Light weapons have Gekkos for LoS (don't laugh, 15% damage buff coming soon), and of course Trebs and Kang Daes on the heavy end. So this bit from Pixo is actually a pleasant surprise.
Hypersonic flaming potatoes rule!
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Jan 11, 2017 13:02:10 GMT -5
I wondered why I saw a Griffin with 4 Trebs in the video Pix released I thought it was a Patton, no? |
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Post by ivx on Jan 11, 2017 14:31:03 GMT -5
So, um... They're buffing the Gekko and then releasing weapons which will make it obsolete?
Guess who won't be jumping onto the upcoming Gekko train...
Jokes aside though, looking forward to new weapons. I hope they don't release all six. Probably it's just variations anyway, 2-3 of which will see final release.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 11, 2017 14:44:29 GMT -5
So, um... They're buffing the Gekko and then releasing weapons which will make it obsolete? Guess who won't be jumping onto the upcoming Gekko train... Jokes aside though, looking forward to new weapons. I hope they don't release all six. Probably it's just variations anyway, 2-3 of which will see final release. Why do you think they will be obsolete? I missed the details that gave you that impression, methinks. |
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Post by ivx on Jan 11, 2017 14:48:41 GMT -5
I meant it half as a joke, a jab at the constant buff/nerf cycles for weapons.
That aside, they may or may not be more powerful than Gekkos (comparing Gekko to Trebuchet/Trebuchet light). No way to know before release, of course.
.... or, fingers crossed, they'll be an entirely new weapon type, with new looks, effects, usage etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 22:20:49 GMT -5
Mid-range medium plasma would be cool. So would a long range heavy missile. Actually, long range Med missiles would be good, and long range Med plasma. Wonder what heavy short range plasma would be like. Zeus is heavy mid-range.
A heavy auto canon would be cool. A Boffers style double barrel deal. Barrels alternate fire. Couple second in between barrels and volleys. A few rds per barrel, then a reload.
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Post by jazzykat on Jan 11, 2017 22:55:04 GMT -5
I need a grenade launcher!!!
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Post by Heishiro on Jan 11, 2017 23:03:54 GMT -5
goodbye Fury Tridents  |
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Post by ivx on Jan 11, 2017 23:13:59 GMT -5
Autocannons, flamethrowers, grenades... There's no shortage of SF (WH 40k maybe) or even real world weaponry Pixonic could take some inspiration from.
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Post by Ѕπλκε✵Σψεs on Jan 11, 2017 23:18:01 GMT -5
More green lasers, definitely ??
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Post by pj on Jan 12, 2017 10:04:30 GMT -5
I wondered why I saw a Griffin with 4 Trebs in the video Pix released I thought it was a Patton, no? If you look closely, the first quad treb is a Patton and the last quad treb is a Griff |
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Post by pyguyofdoom on Jan 12, 2017 10:37:01 GMT -5
it also showed how it would be color coated (at least with the filler) to have yellow for light, blue for medium, and red for heavy treb. I found this from the golem with all trebs
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Post by wannabetoughguy on Jan 12, 2017 11:51:30 GMT -5
Developers seemingly have too much going on. The protolot was presented months ago, but no mention of that weapon for weeks.
A medium Treb is all we need, they shouldn't waste their time with a light version.
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Jan 12, 2017 11:55:20 GMT -5
Variety is the spice of life.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 12, 2017 13:05:37 GMT -5
Developers seemingly have too much going on. The protolot was presented months ago, but no mention of that weapon for weeks. A medium Treb is all we need, they shouldn't waste their time with a light version. The word is that it will be this month... maybe next... but that it IS coming. A word on the TS. Just bc they take something out of the TS, doesn't mean it's not coming. It means that they got the data they were looking for at that particular point in development, for that particular weapon/bot/mechanic. Refinement and changes can happen without the need of the TS, and releases can be planned to happen at later dates for other reasons than that they are ready. Since they never actually said they weren't releasing it, I never gave up waiting. What I think that they did leave out, fortunately, are the 2.5x shield multiplier and, unfortunately, the RoF increase if left firing for over 5 secs. I think the expectations many have about that weapon stem from its performance on the TS. But it will not be near as good as it was there without those other pieces of the puzzle, so it will be interesting to see if they struck the right balance. |
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Post by FunkenA on Jan 12, 2017 14:22:20 GMT -5
goodbye Fury Tridents Trebs just do not have much punch in upper gold in my experience. Tridents are shield busters, Trebs are good against light bots and medium bots seem to do limited damage to higher lvl heavies IMO |
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Post by wannabetoughguy on Jan 12, 2017 14:37:50 GMT -5
Developers seemingly have too much going on. The protolot was presented months ago, but no mention of that weapon for weeks. A medium Treb is all we need, they shouldn't waste their time with a light version. The word is that it will be this month... maybe next... but that it IS coming. A word on the TS. Just bc they take something out of the TS, doesn't mean it's not coming. It means that they got the data they were looking for at that particular point in development, for that particular weapon/bot/mechanic. Refinement and changes can happen without the need of the TS, and releases can be planned to happen at later dates for other reasons than that they are ready. Since they never actually said they weren't releasing it, I never gave up waiting. What I think that they did leave out, fortunately, are the 2.5x shield multiplier and, unfortunately, the RoF increase if left firing for over 5 secs. I think the expectations many have about that weapon stem from its performance on the TS. But it will not be near as good as it was there without those other pieces of the puzzle, so it will be interesting to see if they struck the right balance. Cool, sorry if I appeared whiny/ignorant. Guess I just hate being teased with all the updates lol. |
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Post by Heishiro on Jan 12, 2017 20:06:08 GMT -5
goodbye Fury Tridents Trebs just do not have much punch in upper gold in my experience. Tridents are shield busters, Trebs are good against light bots and medium bots seem to do limited damage to higher lvl heavies IMO trebs are the best counter to Fury tridents, my beloved fury will die easily |
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Jan 12, 2017 21:06:04 GMT -5
Trebs just do not have much punch in upper gold in my experience. Tridents are shield busters, Trebs are good against light bots and medium bots seem to do limited damage to higher lvl heavies IMO trebs are the best counter to Fury tridents, my beloved fury will die easily KWK's are an even better counter to Fury Tridents. Try them out sometime  |
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Post by Scorpio Snow on Jan 12, 2017 21:36:53 GMT -5
Hm.. time to try Mini-Treb Gekko Griffin lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2017 22:47:45 GMT -5
Mini-Treb Gekko Griffin lol. Now say that 5x fast |
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Post by osang on Jan 13, 2017 3:17:34 GMT -5
I want trip-activated claymore mines! I'll plant hundreds of these in each beacon.
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Post by frunobulax on Jan 13, 2017 6:49:40 GMT -5
I can't judge for gold, but up to silver, Trebs can be a nuisance, but not more. Where do you really have maps where you can safely snipe from more than 500-600m distance? A CRV Pin has the same (cycle) DPS as a Treb, Tulums about 30% more, Tridents about twice as much, Zeus has more than 3 times the DPS (but no splash).
In many, many battles in the last week(s) I had exactly one battle where I was really bothered by a Treb robot. It was a 2xTreb Rajin on Canyon and I just couldn't get within 350m with my knifers until the end. My rocket Golem went down, and my teammates didn't take it out or didn't have mid range weapons. But that was blatant a strategic mistake on our side (random team of course), and we still won the battle in the end.
Even on Yama you can get within 500m using some cover.
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Jan 13, 2017 7:40:11 GMT -5
goodbye Fury Tridents I think that's for the better |
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Jan 13, 2017 7:55:58 GMT -5
I can't judge for gold, but up to silver, Trebs can be a nuisance, but not more. Where do you really have maps where you can safely snipe from more than 500-600m distance? A CRV Pin has the same (cycle) DPS as a Treb, Tulums about 30% more, Tridents about twice as much, Zeus has more than 3 times the DPS (but no splash). In many, many battles in the last week(s) I had exactly one battle where I was really bothered by a Treb robot. It was a 2xTreb Rajin on Canyon and I just couldn't get within 350m with my knifers until the end. My rocket Golem went down, and my teammates didn't take it out or didn't have mid range weapons. But that was blatant a strategic mistake on our side (random team of course), and we still won the battle in the end. Even on Yama you can get within 500m using some cover. It's more of a nuisance if you are in a Gepard, Stalker or Gareth and you're caught off guard and lose half your health, maybe even Carnage |
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Post by Mechronis on Jan 13, 2017 7:59:26 GMT -5
And now all the bots can snipe. ALL THE BOTS.
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Post by zman on Jan 13, 2017 8:19:54 GMT -5
They are just using the trebs in place of individual models, likely because rhymes aren't made yet and they are testing or other key factors of weapons using existing models and animations. They said as much on their FB post I believe.
No, they aren't putting Trebs on light bots.
Simmer down folks.
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