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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 11, 2017 19:46:06 GMT -5
Well, this turned out to be an interesting thread, and we're now more clearly seeing how outrageously overpriced the new content really is - Some folks spent nothing. Most of them got nothing, but a few lucky ones seem to have gotten a Dash. Chances for that are probably in the 1% range. The other ones are lucky, too, because they didn't spend any money. - It seems to require at least $100 to get a Dash with reasonable confidence - Others have spent $300-$500 to get maybe two Dashes and a few Scourges or Tempests (look at some of the Youtubers) - The guys that run full Dash hangars have likely spent >$1500 - Many have spent X amount of $ and have gotten nothing I am in the last category. Luckily, I only spent ~$40 to open two superchests (got 3000 keys in the first one). Return was another Rog, another Galahad, another Zeus. You get the picture. This whole game seems to have lost any proportion. It's a fricking mobile game! As others have pointed out, for $500 you can get a Playstation and a couple of full-budget game titles. Or quite a lot of other stuff in real life that provides much better value than a few pixels in a mobile game. I was perfectly fine spending $20 or $30 a month, it's a fun game afterall. I live and work in one of the most expensive places on earth and can easily spend $40 or $400 if I wanted to. But I'm not going to spend any more money on the game. In fact, I have stopped getting Premium, too. It has become a rip-off and a money grab. If facing the Dashes becomes too annoying once people figure out how to use them (Haechi already is), I'll just stop playing and take my time and business elsewhere. But everyone not like you some families have to live 3 days with only 40$ some others can't even have ANY money just like me (lol I spend 15$ per week) and I can't give 「fluffernutter」ing 100$ to get new pixels I can live 2 months with 100$
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Post by hon_shu on Sept 12, 2017 2:27:01 GMT -5
My point was that it was mostly optional to spend the money, and that it felt fair - to me - to do so.
I got some Gold and ran Premium, rushing a few upgrades, making sure the silver is in the bank. But you could also have a lot of fun without spending any money at all and being more patient and taking advantage of the free stuff made available during the events.
More importantly, as a software developer myself I know that programmers need to pay the bills and feed the family, too. So I spent the money because I could afford it and it felt like a fair deal to spend $20 a month, given that I played maybe 50 hours / month during that time. For me this was a fair deal, anyway. I understand that fair will mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people, and many players can't spend any money at all. War Robots does not have any ads, so the paying players are essentially paying for everyone's fun. Which is fair again, in a way.
Now, we are asked to spend unknown amounts of money on unknown outcomes, or watch getting hosed by the shiny new zippy bots. Which is hardly fair, because you can end up spending X amount and still don't have one. And there is no other way to get them, as the chances of getting one from grinding the chests are extremely small. Of course the chance to get one is always only a spin away, exploiting the affinity to gambling that many people have. Which is not very fair, either.
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Post by WilsonK on Sept 12, 2017 2:42:50 GMT -5
Not to mention, teenagers or runners of "underground" activities usually have several thousands of dollars to "throw" every single day. They are one of your "whales".
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Post by moses on Sept 13, 2017 14:10:05 GMT -5
One bronze and three silver all free. As it stands all I have to show for it is a nashorn... ![](https://i.imgur.com/TTZrqIy.png)
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Post by Estoplast on Sept 13, 2017 15:05:30 GMT -5
I'm refusing to spin that thing. I wait until game gives me crap at the end of session. In summer event, once you got something remotely valuable, it then kept giving those same items. Is black market behaving similarily? It did not give me 5 Furys, but in summer event i got 6 Garys(without real cash)
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Post by tonyfla on Sept 13, 2017 15:51:49 GMT -5
Well, this turned out to be an interesting thread, and we're now more clearly seeing how outrageously overpriced the new content really is - Some folks spent nothing. Most of them got nothing, but a few lucky ones seem to have gotten a Dash. Chances for that are probably in the 1% range. The other ones are lucky, too, because they didn't spend any money. - It seems to require at least $100 to get a Dash with reasonable confidence - Others have spent $300-$500 to get maybe two Dashes and a few Scourges or Tempests (look at some of the Youtubers) - The guys that run full Dash hangars have likely spent >$1500 - Many have spent X amount of $ and have gotten nothing I am in the last category. Luckily, I only spent ~$40 to open two superchests (got 3000 keys in the first one). Return was another Rog, another Galahad, another Zeus. You get the picture. This whole game seems to have lost any proportion. It's a fricking mobile game! As others have pointed out, for $500 you can get a Playstation and a couple of full-budget game titles. Or quite a lot of other stuff in real life that provides much better value than a few pixels in a mobile game. I was perfectly fine spending $20 or $30 a month, it's a fun game afterall. I live and work in one of the most expensive places on earth and can easily spend $40 or $400 if I wanted to. But I'm not going to spend any more money on the game. In fact, I have stopped getting Premium, too. It has become a rip-off and a money grab. If facing the Dashes becomes too annoying once people figure out how to use them (Haechi already is), I'll just stop playing and take my time and business elsewhere. But everyone not like you some families have to live 3 days with only 40$ some others can't even have ANY money just like me (lol I spend 15$ per week) and I can't give ?firetruck?ing 100$ to get new pixels I can live 2 months with 100$ Totally off-topic, but I've been thinking about moving overseas. Where do you live that you can go for two months on $100?
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Post by seanh on Sept 13, 2017 15:57:56 GMT -5
Most of Africa, last time I checked (which granted was a long time ago),
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Post by hon_shu on Sept 13, 2017 16:15:22 GMT -5
I think this is the challenging part. Selling a game globally, given that some people live a week or a month off what others make in 10 minutes. So the game either enforces regional restrictions, or they just orient their prices to maximize their income, which will likely target the 10 minutes guy more. Pixonic is doing the later, which is totally legit, and the players being able and willing to spend money pay for everyone's fun.
Anyway, I feel Pixonic is starting to realize that with their latest money grab they have driven it over the top a little, and after milking the whales (cows?) they'll reduce the price for Dash bots in the near future. Otherwise, they will annoy too many of their players just a bit too much.
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Post by Agent_RAF on Sept 13, 2017 16:15:55 GMT -5
The best I got was a Noricum, that time, I was so close to a Stalker...RIP
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 13, 2017 17:27:38 GMT -5
But everyone not like you some families have to live 3 days with only 40$ some others can't even have ANY money just like me (lol I spend 15$ per week) and I can't give ?firetruck?ing 100$ to get new pixels I can live 2 months with 100$ Totally off-topic, but I've been thinking about moving overseas. Where do you live that you can go for two months on $100? well I'm living in college dormitor but minimum salary in our country is 500$ and a 4 childed family can live pretty well with 1000$ its turkey but some foods are so high priced like 1 kg of meat is 「fluffernutter」ing 20$ (「whiskey tango foxtrot」) an ideal apartment is 50k$ an ideal car (lets say it ford fiesta 2017) is 15k$ and a liter of gasoline is 2$ a loaf of bread is 0.30$ Water and electric bills are 20$ if you don't waste it a natural gas bills (on winters) 200$ but phone prices are hot af A samsung s8 is 1500$ there are lots of tax in turkey nearly %50 of prices are tax but we have to give our moneys to protect ourself from isis,pkk,ypg. In fact turkey spends 6 billion dolar to army and our profit is only 70 billion dollars but if you have like 150k money in your bank you can buy a good house a good car and even you can build a factory here. Yes thing in our country are cheap for americans but for us its some high.
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 13, 2017 17:30:37 GMT -5
Most of Africa, last time I checked (which granted was a long time ago), my country is not africa country its asia-europe and I'm staying in college dormitory so I can get 2 months with 100$ but if I stayed in normal house and if I have to work it would be 500$ per month but its still low price for yo americans
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Post by seanh on Sept 13, 2017 17:40:07 GMT -5
Sometimes I like to wear cowboy hats and those boots with the tassels, but other than that I ain't no Mercian. I live in a magical place full of pixies and ?poo-poo?, which also happens to have a tax rate running around 52%. maybe I should go to America.
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 13, 2017 17:57:02 GMT -5
Sometimes I like to wear cowboy hats and those boots with the tassels, but other than that I ain't no Mercian. I live in a magical place full of pixies and ?poo-poo?, which also happens to have a tax rate running around 52%. maybe I should go to America. I dunno I don't have enough money to get visa for murica I'm poor guy ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cry.png)
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Post by ᘐᙓᓮᖇᗩ on Sept 14, 2017 3:57:31 GMT -5
In the first few days Black Market was on iOS, I initially bought 1150 keys three times and between that and the keys I won, I was 3/4 of the way to the Superchest.
I decided on the weekend to buy another 1150 keys so that I could at least hit the Superchest before the market ended, but of course I fell slightly short and bought a 5th pack of 1150 keys. I rolled several thousand keys, and in the end I managed three Superchests.
Nothing to write home about aside from two Scourges I got out of silver, but here is my haul from my 2 x $13.99 CAD:
Silver chests 2 x Scourge 4 x 30 keys 4 x 50 keys 2 x 60 keys 8 x 70 keys 1 x 80 keys 1 x 90 keys 2 x 100 keys 2 x 110 keys 5 x 100,000 Ag 2 x 150,000 Ag 1 x 200,000 Ag 4 x 250,000 Ag 1 x 300,000 Ag 2 x 40 Au 2 x 50 Au 1 x 90 Au
Gold chests: 1 x Ancile 2 x Gekko 1 x 600 keys 2 x 800 keys 1 x 900 keys 1 x 2,500 keys 1 x 4,000 keys 1 x 600 Au 1 x 650 Au 2 x 750 Au 1 x 850 Au 1 x 1,000 Au
Superchests: 1 x 2,000 keys 1 x 3,000 keys 1 x Zeus
I'm done now, haven't spent a dime since the new market opened, and I'm pretty much tapped out.
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Post by CrownBlack on Sept 14, 2017 8:39:25 GMT -5
just for 「dookie」s and grins I thought i would throw $10 at the game and open a Gold chest....eureka one a Haechi. Now I can stop with the black market. One works for me. Today is a good day!!
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Post by CrownBlack on Sept 14, 2017 8:39:59 GMT -5
just for ?poo-poo?s and grins I thought i would throw $10 at the game and open a Gold chest....eureka won a Haechi. Now I can stop with the black market. One works for me. Today is a good day!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 8:55:40 GMT -5
just for ?poo-poo?s and grins I thought i would throw $10 at the game and open a Gold chest....eureka one a Haechi. Now I can stop with the black market. One works for me. Today is a good day!! That is really, really lucky - congrats ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 10:42:58 GMT -5
just for ?poo-poo?s and grins I thought i would throw $10 at the game and open a Gold chest....eureka won a Haechi. Now I can stop with the black market. One works for me. Today is a good day!! Have you open any chests before that and if yes which type?
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Post by tonyfla on Sept 14, 2017 20:26:32 GMT -5
Totally off-topic, but I've been thinking about moving overseas. Where do you live that you can go for two months on $100? well I'm living in college dormitor but minimum salary in our country is 500$ and a 4 childed family can live pretty well with 1000$ its turkey but some foods are so high priced like 1 kg of meat is ?firetruck?ing 20$ (「whiskey tango foxtrot」) an ideal apartment is 50k$ an ideal car (lets say it ford fiesta 2017) is 15k$ and a liter of gasoline is 2$ a loaf of bread is 0.30$ Water and electric bills are 20$ if you don't waste it a natural gas bills (on winters) 200$ but phone prices are hot af A samsung s8 is 1500$ there are lots of tax in turkey nearly %50 of prices are tax but we have to give our moneys to protect ourself from isis,pkk,ypg. In fact turkey spends 6 billion dolar to army and our profit is only 70 billion dollars but if you have like 150k money in your bank you can buy a good house a good car and even you can build a factory here. Yes thing in our country are cheap for americans but for us its some high. OK, thanks.
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Post by tonyfla on Sept 14, 2017 20:35:04 GMT -5
...cowboy hats and those boots with the tassels... I assume by tassels, you meant spurs. While I personally find that funny AF, please never call them 'tassels' anywhere in the American South or the Southwest, especially Texas. Out there, they'll shoot a foreigner for something like that. Those guys take their spurs very seriously. ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) (but seriously, don't)
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Post by theobscurus on Sept 15, 2017 9:03:57 GMT -5
Nashorn is probably the best you get from bronze chest 200 tickets from the silver chest and i havent tried gold. I did try the gold chest when it was like War Robots birthday and i accumulated about 1000 gold at that time earning for the 4th slot. Who couldnt resist buying a gold chest? Well i got a gekko from that chest and if I knew i was going to get a gekko i would have just bought one to at least save 250 gold.
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Sept 15, 2017 9:29:08 GMT -5
Nashorn is probably the best you get from bronze chest 200 tickets from the silver chest and i havent tried gold. I did try the gold chest when it was like War Robots birthday and i accumulated about 1000 gold at that time earning for the 4th slot. Who couldnt resist buying a gold chest? Well i got a gekko from that chest and if I knew i was going to get a gekko i would have just bought one to at least save 250 gold. lol not even close haechi,jesse,scourge is best for bronce orkan,haechi,kumiho,scourge,lancelot,gepard,galahad,and 1000 gold best from silver
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Post by Danny Linguini on Sept 15, 2017 23:09:44 GMT -5
2nd silver chest with green tickets, 2nd 150k silver. Whoopee. Thankfully I don't actually want anything anyway. But a little gold would still be nice.
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Post by moses on Sept 15, 2017 23:47:18 GMT -5
2nd silver chest with green tickets, 2nd 150k silver. Whoopee. Thankfully I don't actually want anything anyway. But a little gold would still be nice. You have managed to triple my winnings with half the silver chests - I am jealous. 4x silver chests opened, 3 gave keys and lucky number 4 gave 100k silver...
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Post by ronaldo1983 on Sept 16, 2017 16:05:52 GMT -5
Already posted this on another thread... but Bulgasari!! Spent some gold to upgrade it to 5. Put 3 level 7 tarans on it. But haven't taken it out for a spin yet. Info? Read the original post?
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Post by ronaldo1983 on Sept 16, 2017 16:06:34 GMT -5
Would you rather have the devs not add this at all? Don't know how long you have been playing, meaning, having seen how PIX has done things over the years. Given how they have introduced these items, I don't consider them added, so they might as well have done nothing as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by ronaldo1983 on Sept 16, 2017 16:06:53 GMT -5
I'll just keep updating the same post in the future. In order: Secondary account (Poopface Too): - I got my 100 tickets returned to me on the first spin.
- 250k silver on the second
Primary account (Poopface):
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Post by infraviolet on Sept 16, 2017 16:58:55 GMT -5
Finally obtained a Galahad, out of a Gold chest last night on Gameroom. And already leveled it up to all 6's with plasma.
I remember how badly I wanted one shortly after I started War Robots seven months ago. Now I finally got my wish, even if it's no longer considered meta. lol
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Post by bikedork1 on Sept 16, 2017 22:34:49 GMT -5
I just finally won an orkan from a bronze chest! Is the only "good" thing I've won from a chest, since maybe the haloween event last year. From what I've won out of the chests there is absolutely no way i would spend RM on keys.
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Post by infraviolet on Sept 18, 2017 13:05:58 GMT -5
Welp, last two BM Superchests I opened on Gameroom were both Rogs. Still my favorite bot, but now I have three. lol
At least I managed to win one Korean bot on Android (Kumiho). But at this point I'm done with BM chest spins altogether. Time to curb my gambling addiction before it's too late.
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